Rock 'n' Roll MVP's (w/Martin Popoff)
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- Join Pete Pardo & Martin Popoff as they list musicians who are the MVP's of their band.
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Pete Townshend fits the bulk as well as anyone.
He wrote the Rock Opera albums Tommy and
Quadroohenia.
The storyies and concepts.
He made the decisions on when or if to Tour.
He wrote Every single song.
(Except the 1 song maybe 2 per album from Entwistle l
2or 3 from Keith Moon )
Pete steered the bands career and direction brilliantly.
Making the decision to releae "Live at Leeds" was a genius stroke.
Unstead of forcing another album with no idess and he felt like the bandit at least at number one all UK and the United States
Tremendous show as usual. MVP of analysis of MUSIC = MARTIN/ PETE. IMO 👍💯
Well said, Gary. I concur...Pete has a great channel, a lot of variety, but his segments with Martin are THE BEST, imo. Martin is a genius, his books are top rate.....thank God this isn't one of those mind knumbing, silly reaction channels.
While not a band I would expect to see on SOT, this reminds me of Mark E Smith of The Fall, who once said "If its me and your granny on bongos, it's The Fall"
Perfect example
David Coverdale not taking the lyrics to seriously is a perfect observation. Met the band the day after David's 33rd birthday on the Slide It In tour, when I told him Happy Birthday he said "in 4 months he was having a 33 1/3 birthday party for long players only". The funniest moment was when someone asked him what the next album would be called he said he was toying with "Whip It Out Wipe It Off and Slide It Back In" (true story). Met a lot of stars along my journey but he was hands down the coolest guy ever. Great show, as always, gentlemen. Cheers!
Yeah I think anyone who's honest about the Whitesnake albums has to admit that the subject matter's pretty juvenile (even when a lot of the music is pretty good), also as evidenced by some of the song titles & album covers. Always loved Coverdale's voice, aside from fronting Purple I think he might've made a more-than-serviceable frontman even for a band like Led Zep
First name that comes to mind: David Coverdale. HE is Whitesnake and he's proven it on many occasions.
Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull)
Christian Vander (Magma)
Ritchie Blackmore (Rainbow)
Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen)
Cheers.
Thank you, Pete and Martin for your great picks.
All the damn time.
🎤🎸🎵🎹🥁
Life is better with music.
Dave Brock, I think, would have to be considered the MVP of "Hawkwind". Not that various members throughout the band's history have been unimportant. But he seems to have weathered the various storms and continues to release Hawkwind albums until now.
He absolutely brings something to the plate of more entertainment ..
Lemmy wrote the only hit for Hawkwind.
Dave Brock has always been the Captain of spaceship PXR5
@@SH-ud8wd No, Dave Brock and Robert Calvert wrote "Silver Machine", Lemmy just sang it.
As I have heard it, John Fogarty sang, played lead guitar and wrote most of the CCR songs, but they agreed to a 4 way 25% split. It wasn't until the last album that he demanded the other write some songs (and they're not great).
I think that's a good pick...How 'bout Brian Wilson? His brother Carl contributed some good songs too & had an excellent voice but Brian was the genius (let's not discuss Mike Love)
Pete Townshend! Although Roger can kick his ass lol! Happy Friday Pete and Martin, great content as always!
Pete "I had cp for research purposes" Townshend.
Great show guys and thanks for the shout out Pete. Cheers
The one to me that was obviously missing was Robert Fripp/King Crimson. Others include Pete Townsend with The Who; Rory Gallagher is another.
Popoff and Pardo are at it again with an audible call during the week and an on the fly topic with MVP's from bands. Excellent show and topic, gents, and very informative. Ian Anderson first came to mind so glad to see him mentioned. Another great hour in the Funhouse. Thanks for the episode. And thanks for the chuckles from listening to each of you discuss why you turned away from your originally planned topic.
1. Lemmy Kilmister from Motorhead
2. Alex Harvey from the Sensational Alex Harvey Band
3. Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy
4. Robert Smith from The Cure
5. Dee Snider from Twisted Sister
Honorable Mention: Rickey Medlocke from Blackfoot
Good variety there...
My first choice would be Jeff Lynne of ELO. He was the genius behind everything the band did. The music, writing/lyrics, touring and set lists, who would be in the band, etc. Case in point: it's now called "Jeff Lynne's" ELO. He's benn the captain of the ship since his days with the Move. If it wasn't for Jeff, there wouldn't even be an ELO at all. Sure, he's had great band members over the years. But the band has existed without Bev Bevan, Kelly Groucutt, Will Gibson, Mike Kaminski, and even Richard Tandy briefly. Yet Jeff has kept ELO going all these years,and put out some decent new music in the 2000s ond later . Great man, super genius, and definitely a cool guy.
Brilliant producer too
My picks are Dave Mustaine of Megadeth, Rickey Medlocke of Blackfoot, and Jon Schaeffer of Iced Earth.
Paul McCartney Pete Townshend Robert Fripp were at the heart of things in their band.
I met Linda and Roger Earl twice, and they remembered our first meeting. Both of them exude class, positive vibes, and uber coolness! Roger was childhood idol. What a killer drummer, with chops, tone, and the best moustache ever!! He is almost like a muppet and could play for Dr Teeth! :) Getting to meet him, and talk with him was just too cool.
When they do this type of video, I enjoy pausing after the intro, generating a list of the five names I'd consider based on the thesis, and then returning to see Pete and Martin's selections. For me, this time:
Damon Albarn - Blur (and Gorillaz)
Jason Pierce - Spiritualized
Josh Homme - Queens of the Stone Age
Leif Edling - Candlemass
Tony Iommi - Black Sabbath
Thank you Pete and Martin for another fun and insightful episode. My MVPs in no particular order Peter Hammill of vdgg, Todd Rundgren, Ian Anderson, Sir Raymond Davies of the Kinks, Andrew Latimer of Camel, Tony Iommi of Sabbath, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Dave Brock of Hawkwind and Claudio Simonetti of Goblin. RIP Massimo Morante of Goblin.
As per usual another great show. Pete and Martin your knowledge is impressive and makes for such an interesting show and makes for a great start for my weekend's ( its Saturday morning down under when I watch this)
Great show as always guys thnx!
Alvin Lee was Ten years after, Dave Brock, Jagger, Ray Davies.
Another great show, thanks.
My MVP would be Chris Squire of Yes. Chris played on every Yes album until his death and was the constant in the band throughout all the many lineup changes over the years. Chris also passed the torch to Billy Sherwood to continue Yes at his request during his illness. The heart of Yes to me.
Wow, for me it's really tough to imagine classic 70's Yes w/o Anderson & Howe...
@@wolf1977 Yeah, for me it doesn't really feel like YES without Jon (although I will excuse 'Drama' and 'Fly From Here Return Trip' bc Horn does sound convincing and can sound like Jon at times), BUT I am coming to realize that Squire was just as important. The fish had a bass sound that was uniquely his.
@@Sammeep02 Actually I also like later Yes a lot, especially the Rabin stuff (90125 is one of my faves), plus those first 2 albums (with Tony Kaye/Peter Banks instead of Wakeman/Howe)...I was careful to specify "classic 70's Yes" not being what it was without Anderson/Howe, I think a lot of Yes diehards can't get into any other Yes lineup. Kinda similar to Purple fans with Gillan/Blackmore...
@@wolf1977 I LOVE the Rabin era, both 90125 and BiG Gen are in my top five (together with The Yes Album, Fragile, and Drama). Yes diehards talk too much trash on the Rabin era and seriously need to give it a chance! "Owner" is only the tip of the iceberg and snobs base the ENTIRE Rabin era on that one hit. Although it is undeniably a HUGE departure from classic 70s' Yes, it does still have the Yes sensibility of, ya know, being progressive and such. Because anything that defies the usual conventions of music is progressive - textbook example: the acapella stuff on 'Leave It!'
Great episode guys!
“Well it did crash 💥” lol 😂 🤣 damn funny quote from Popoff with the Led Zeppelin album😃👍🤣🤣
Another awesome video. I agree with both lists. Malcom Young is one I didn’t think about. Great pick. I’d probably include Eddie Van Halen and Paul Stanley. Both kept their bands going when other members left or weren’t fully invested in the band (Gene Simmons).
A few off the top of my head are:
Toni Iommi
James Hetfield
Dave Mustaine
Scott Ian
Gary Holt
Jimmy Page
Eddie Van Halen
Etc.
Great show
The first ones to spring to mind for me...
#1 Edward Van Halen
#2 Jim Morrison
#3 John Fogerty
#4 Tom Scholz
#5 Sting
Honorable Mention
Billy Gibbons
Justin Sullivan of New Model Army has been writing 5 star lyrics since the 1980s. Also the late Mark Linkous from Sparklehorse. Beautiful poetry.
nice, wish they would get their due.
I’ll give these two bands a listen.
Thanks Brucy. Agreed
Hey Carl. Good places to start. It's a wonderful life from sparklehorse and Thunder and Consolation or Impurity from NMA
Interesting show Pete and Martin.
Geddy Lee. Bass, keyboards, occasional acoustic guitars and vocals. Did it all.
Didn't write the lyrics (Peart) some of which are great. Not that it matters much but Lee wasn't an original band member (neither was Peart) but Lifeson was. He also did backing vocals & played occasional keyboards and bass pedal synths. I think apart from the wonderful drums (and Lee's vocals) the guitars are the signature sound of Rush, more so than the bass (which is also great at times but it's bass...)
Three of my favorite bands immediately came to mind:
Dave Mustaine - Megadeth
Mikael Åkerfeldt - Opeth
Steven Wilson - Porcupine Tree
I was sure that Martin would say that Angus is the MVP of AC/DC, but glad that he explained Malcolm’s importance to the band. Rick Nielson of Cheap Trick is an obvious MVP, as is Paul Stanley. During the show, I don’t know why but I kept thinking of Michael Anthony as the MVP of Van Halen (background vocals, live stage antics, overall nice guy), but he’s more of a “Secret Weapon”. Great show today!
Rock MVPs isn't a 'weird' topic guys. It's pretty interesting. You could talk about almost any subject to do with rock and I would enjoy it though. Your knowledge and enthusiasm and the way you respect and obviously like each other is very pleasurable to listen to.
I agree, its a very interesting topic and a musicology book could be written about it.
Very interesting.
Hey Pete and Martin finally saw that Whitesnake doc last night on Reelz so happy to see guys on that episode!
Lemmy. Lemmy is Motorhead. Lemmy rules.
Loved seeing Jimmy in the film It might get loud - a must see for guitar players
“If it’s me and your grandma on bongos it’s the Fall”
Mark E Smith
Cool topic. An idea for a part 2 would be "late add" MVPs. Guys who joined a band late but changed their course for the better. 2 that come mind would be Steve Morse joining Deep Purple and ending all the drama, finally stabilizing the lineup and making it fun; and Richie Castellano joining BOC and all the stuff he's done with them most of which you discussed in the interview. I'm sure you can think of others.
Great episode!
Andy Partridge, XTC
Buzz Osborne, Melvins
Blackie Lawless ( W.A.S.P. ). It´s impossible to imagine W.A.S.P. without Blackie. Some could say that Blackie is MVP almost to a fault. He has a reputation of being hard to collaborate with.
Excellent show as usual! What first came to my mind was mr. Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth. I wonder if mr Arjen Lucassen fits in the format with the Ayreon Project...
- Billy Corgan - Smashing Pumpkins
-Maynard James Keenan - Tool
- Robert Smith - The Cure
-Trent Reznor - Nine Inch Nails
- Dave Mustaine - Megadeth
Nailed it.
Martin and Pete are the best show on CZcams
Myles Goodwin of April Wine is a true MVP Rock n Roll warrior !
Its funny how some bands can have this MVP aspect..yet others can replace ANYONE (Purple, Uriah etc) and keep moving. I suppose part of it is when the act formed, how important that one person is to the art and how the fanbase feel about them.
The Stones, for example feel like "Mick n Keef" now. Wheras even AC/DC went on without Brian live for years (even if Axl Rose is a "name" for festivals and shows) - but still tellin that Brian returned for an album and one with Axl was not even considered.
Dave Brock - Hawkwind
Frank Bornemann - Eloy
Ed Wynne - Ozric Tentacles
Robert Fripp - King Crimson
Lemmy - Motörhead
Ray Davies (The Kinks)
Pete Townshend (The Who)
John Fogerty (CCR)
Chuck Schuldiner (Death)
Mark E. Smith (The Fall)
Robert Smith (The Cure)
Jello Biafra (Dead Kennedys)
Paul Westerberg (The Replacements)
Dave Mustaine (Megadeth)
Kevin Shields (My Bloody Valentine)
Ian Anderson (Tull), Robert Fripp (King Crimson) and Dave Brock (Hawkwind) were the first three to come to my mind.
Andy Lattimer, Peter Hammill, Roine Stolt, Jeff Martin, Ian Anderson, Mikael Akerfeldt and of course, Steven Wilson!
An interesting insightful topic. I do not have the same in-depth background knowledge to go with my choices but I will add them here anyway, based on the criteria of "others come and go", or "the band would never be the same without them".
1. Frank Zappa (Mothers and others); 2. Robert Fripp (King Crimson); 3. Mick Fleetwood (Fleetwood Mac); 4. Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree, Blackfield); and 5.Pete Townsend (The Who).
Great show!
Maybe a part 2 ?
Love these dudes
First examples that came to mind (before even watching your episode):
Ian Anderson,
Robert Fripp,
Christian Vander,
Dave Mustaine
Alex Harvey - The Sensational Band without him was totally different. He without the SAHB was still very much SAHB
Alice Cooper - for his early years with the original band (of course he is the boss on his solo career), and I think it was/is very unfair to the other guys.
Alex Harvey was one of greatest entertainers Rock music has ever known.
@@captainbeyond7469 spot on. Unique phenomenon!
@@captainbeyond7469 Not really my thing but along the same lines (minus the Glam aspects): John Mayall, probably spawned the most influential roster of musicians originating from any single band (even more than Fleetwood Mac or The Yardbirds)
Lots of really good MVP choices by Martin and Pete. Here are my pics. Ian Anderson. John Fogerty. Tom Scholtz. Ronnie Van Zant. Jerry Garcia (regardless of what he said). And three honorables: Rickey Medlocke (w/Blackfoot). Randy Bachman (BTO and TGW) and Maddy Prior of Steeleye Span.
I think Garcia's largely being overlooked, he was one of my picks too
The one thing Uriah Heep got wrong with the Abominog album was the cover. There's a lot of great AOR songs on that album and I think the cover may have put off a very large audience and radio stations picking it up.
1. Jim Morrison - No Doors without Jim
2. Tony Iommi
3. Ritchie Blackmore
4. Jimmy Page
5. Edward Van Halen
honorable mentions : Pete Townshend, Jimi Hendrix, & Mark Knopfler
Blackmore yes but not necessarily in a good way (that's why I left him off my list). I think Manzarek contributed A LOT to the Doors, also Krieger (for instance he's credited with writing/co-writing 5 of 9 tracks on Soft Parade, and 5 of 11 on Morrison Hotel). But Morrison was the poet in the band...Paul Simon might be another good one, also Marc Bolan
@@wolf1977 Marc Bolan is a good pick, I agree that Manzarek and Krieger were big contributors but Morrison was the MVP, the 2 "doors" albums after Morrison's death (other voices and full circle) are not real doors albums to my ears which is why I picked Jim.
Love this! Foghat is Martin's Whitesnake 😀
Wow!? you don't often see that amount of self awarness in modern day media. Total classy move of keeping yourself in check. Nice job Pete.
Good choices guys! Awesome you mentioned Malcolm Young, Martin! Great choice! I would also say, Paul Stanley, he kept KISS going longer than anyone thought they were going to make it, after the 70's/80's makeup days people probably didn't think they'd last long. Dave Meniketti from Y&T, Nikki Sixx from Motley Crue, Frankie Banali the drummer from Quiet Riot, he was there from '81 through his death, he kept the band going after Kevin Dubrow left, even becoming band manager in '93 ( RIP ). Mark Reale from Riot, he kept them going through the years and different lineups, until his passing ( RIP ).
Mark Knopfler - Dire Straits
Coverdale went on record as saying that the lack of success in the States was not something he worried about too much as he was big in Europe and Japan, although I think he always worried that he didn't ever deserve to be in Deep Purple when he joined. He always seemed to be trying to give the impression he was first division, but didn't believe it himself. It was John Kalodner who masterminded his US breakthrough with the Slide It In remix and the 1987 video line up...who never actually made a Snake album....and it was only with the success of 1987, which out performed the reformed Deep Purple MK II records at that time, that he 'made it'.
18:09 Great video... Martin hints at another idea _beyond_ MVP: similar to Norma Desmond (from the film, "Sunset Boulevard") where the MVP is a tragic, evocative figure who is stuck in the glory days, reliving the past, almost to the point of delusion.
Cheers Gary,just joined
You guys talked about most of my picks already (Malcolm Young, Steve Harris, David Coverdale, Tony Iommi). I'd also add Biff Byford from Saxon, Jon Bon Jovi from Bon Jovi (obviously), and Brian May from Queen.
An obvious choice is Eddie Van Halen. Surprised you guys didn’t mention him, but you don’t seem to talk about Van Halen much (although Martin has a couple of podcast episodes).
Eddie WAS Van Halen. He wrote all the music and the band went as Eddie went. Obviously they could survive the departure of the lead singer, for better or worse, but the only time we got new music or a tour was when Eddie felt like it. Unfortunately, there is probably a lot of great music that Eddie just didn’t feel like releasing.
David Coverdale was actually the first name that came to mind when you guys introduced the topic, so glad to hear Pete mention him. Pete Townsend might be another one.
To me Townshend is a non-brainer pick here, also Ray Davies
@@wolf1977 A couple of other British guys Dave Hill and Andy Scott from Slade and Sweet, respectively both keeping those two bands going.
@@LarryFleetwood8675 In keeping with the Brits: Paul Weller (The Jam & The Style Council), Steve Marriott (Humble Pie & Packet Of Three/Scrubbers, in Small Faces he was "just another face"), Alvin Lee. Back in the US: David Byrne, Joe Walsh
Uriah Heep have Always been a Heavy Band and constantly in rotation , my first album was the live one 🏅
MVP : Jim Matheos . The legendary guitarists is probably the most underrated song writer in the history of recorded music. ( Fates Warning , O.S.I . , Matheos /Arch ) .
Damn! I never realized how phallic that first LZ cover is!!! :-)
Agree on Ian Anderson. Also Jeff Lynne of ELO...
Lynne's a good pick
ALICE IS A GREAT DUDE, TOTALLY ON ,BUT DOWN TO EARTH AT THE SAME TIME!!!
Ian Anderson-Jethro Tull
Iommi-Sabbath
Peter Hammill-VDGG
Mick Fleetwood-FM
I got 2 for right now
1st person that comes to mind is Dennis DeYoung when he was in Styx
Next for me would be Tom Scholz
Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) is an obvious choice. I would also add Frank Zappa (Mothers Of Invention), Don Van Vliet (Captain Beefheart And The Magic Band), Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree), Ton Scherpenzeel (Kayak), Steve Winwood (Traffic), Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top), Pete Townshend (The Who) 'n Robert Fripp (King Crimson).
Lots of good growling from Pete in this one. He's at his best with it when he's talking about "nonsense!"
Cool show guys. Next Friday is July 1st which is also Canada's birthday, can you guys do a Canadian themed show? Sea of Tranquility has many Canadian subscribers and Martin is Canadian so this would be really cool.
Lemmy, Motorhead... Robert Smith, The Cure.... Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins.... Noel Gallagher, Oasis.... Black Francis, Pixies... Robert Fripp, King Crimson... Chuck Schuldiner, Death... Mille Petrozza, Kreator... Tom Gabriel Fischer, Celtic Frost...
My top 5 MVP
1 Nato Shibata (Anthem)
2 Steve Harris (Iron Maiden)
3 Dee Snider (Twisted Sister)
4 Akira Takasaki (Loudness)
5 Blackie Lawless (W.A.S.P.)
My MVP is Matthew Bellamy of Muse. He is the lead singer, lead guitarist, and writes most of the songs.
I always end up watching Friday at The Fun house with a big smile on my face. Love the combination of Pete and Martin and this was another great show.
Some possible MVPs I thought of
Tom Scholz
Mick Jones (although Lou Gramm was definitely my favourite member)
Francis Rossi
Ritchie Blackmore
David Meniketti
TBH I considered Scholz but I don't know what those first two albums would've sounded like w/o Brad Delp singing (and he also wrote/co-wrote two tracks on the debut, and same on the 2nd album). But yeah Scholz was clearly the mastermind behind the band & also financed the demos, as well as playing pretty much everything on that first album
@@wolf1977 Good points, as ever, Wolf. Delp was a terrific singer. It is a similar situation to my 2nd choice of Foreigner with Mick Jones. He is clearly the driving force behind Foreigner, but without Lou those songs wouldn't have sounded as great as they did (and I speak as someone who's also enjoyed seeing the band with Kelly Hanson)
@@jerryattwooll4864 Thx...Foreigner's not one of my bands but I agree about Mick Jones...Some others that were mentioned & that're good ones (IMO): Marc Bolan, Brian Wilson, Rik Emmett, Frank Marino, John Fogerty...I also thought about Tom Johnston (Doobies) but Patrick Simmons is always lurking & he always managed to get at least 2-3 of his songs on each of those classic 70's records. Plus Tiran Porter on bass was the secret weapon...
John Fogerty CCR
5 Minutes in and Joey DeMaio is going off in my head like an alarm !!
After Harris my first thoughts was Erik Danielsson from Watain. I dont think I ever seen other members speak out in interviews.
Here's a topic you might want to consider (if you've done this already, just disregard); famous last songs. Your favorite last song on an album. Could be an interesting show. Thanks. Great video, by the way.
Great show guys (as usual). Martin's comments about Malcolm Young gave me an possible topic for a future show: "Top Rock and Roll Siblings". Just off the top of my head I can think Angus and Malcolm Young, Eddie and Alex Van Halen, Ann and Nancy Wilson... I am sure there are many others.
Duane and Gregg.
@@goldrag3163 No love for Dickey Betts? He did write 4 of the 7 tracks on Brothers And Sisters, 3 of 7 on Win, Lose or Draw and 5 of 8 tracks on Enlightened Rogues. Also was the lead guitar player during ABB's most successful commercial years, and sang his fair share of ABB songs...I think one could imagine the band dying post-Duane in the 70's (or at least significantly changing) without Betts
Ray and Dave Davies.
@@wolf1977 Dickey was great, but not a sibling.
Geezer is a great lyricist and their motif and Geezer’s lyrics really propelled them to stardom.
"Steve is Eddie", I agree!
Mick Jones from Foreigner.
Humidy is great! It keeps the skin fresh and dewy!!
mark farner- grand funk
les claypool-primus
warren haynes-govt mule
Mike Bruce was the principal songwriter in the original AC group
Tony Iommy. Lemmy, of course. Phil Lynott. Bobby Blitz. Mark E. Smith. Ringo Starr. Blacky Lawless.
80s as a heatwave... my being a Southern man laughs at that statement, try near a 100 with high humidity, that's a heatwave. However I enjoy the show every week and the weather report
Ian Anderson and Pete Townsend come immediately to mind
...how about Noel Gallagher , Mark Knophler, and Eric Clapton.
Dave Brock-Hawkwind
Robert Fripp-King Crimson
Rick Nielsen- is everything Cheap Trick. Got to see a chunk of his collection at a museum in rockford Immense, awesome.
Mark Reale, and Nikki Sixx come to mind also.
Mikael akerfeldt-opeth
Dave mustaine-megadeth
Chuck schuldiner-death
Gary holt-exodus
Robert fripp-king crimson
My five choices are all Lemmy!