Some very good tips. Here are ten of mine. - Jan Akkerman 1973: Tabernakel, Seventh Wave 1975: Psi-Fi , Peter Hammill 1974: In camera, Michael Mantler 1976 (with Robert Wyatt & Terje Rypdal): The Hapless Child, Terje Rypdal 1974: Whenever i seem to be far away, Procol Harum 1973: Grand Hotel, Mahavisnu Orchestra 1975: Visions of the emerald beyond, Cardiacs 1996 Sing to God (including the most fantastic song ever written, "Dirty boy", look it up as soon as you can, if you havent already), Tim Smith (from Cardiacs) 1995 Extra special OceanLandWorld, & Älgarnas Trädgård 1972: Framtiden Är Ett Svävande Skepp, Förankrat I Forntiden
Franco Battiato's "Sulle Corde di Aries" (1973) is criminally underrated and deserves mention in this context. Takes the best of "Meddle" era Pink Floyd, free jazz, experimental use of electronics like the VCS3, and classical leanings to create a dense difficult work that I find extremely rewarding. Really left field stuff but an extraordinarily fascinating listen for the open minded. And it has one of the best album covers in prog!
I would have added Camel's the Snow Goose or Moon Madness. but you have a fantastic list here. So happy to see Happy the Man, and Discipline on your list, besides Gino Vanelli.
Discipline and Going for the One are my two favourite albums by their respective performers. So creative and satisfying. I agree about A Trick of the Tail too. Subscribed.
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer By the way, blomljud means flowersound. Perhaps you hear some flowersound on the album. I’m not an expert on flowersounds, so I’m not able to tell. ;-)
You actually made me think as to why I come to the channel. Is it that you 'Rank' these albums? Not for me. It is true, that I gravitate to many of your Prog-Fusion sensibilities and therefore enjoy your selections (mostly). Now when I don't agree? So be it. But, more valuable for me is when I don't know the album at all. This then throws gasoline on my 'Prog -Fusion Fire' to search them out and listen. I find the channel highly educational for me in that regard.
I'm a longtime Yes fan, and I've underappreciated Going for the One. I'm becoming more and more aware of its greatness from start to finish. It could be one of those albums that is best listening to side 2 first. A Trick of the Tail was my introduction to Genesis. Agreed on its greatness.
Love your stuff! Renter after my own heart. This is a long comment, so don’t expect you to read it all. It’s about England. In 1978 I attended an audition as Bassist/Vocalist as a replacement for Martin Henderson. Garden Shed had just gone big in the Us and Martin had just quit. Thy needed a quick replacement for a potential US tour in about a month's time. They lived in a huge house in the country with the three existing members and an all rounder - roadie/recording engineer. The house was complete with a studio. The audition was a three job, with chat, snack and then musical audition. They were 3 really nice guys (Rob, Jode and Frank) and I fitted in well. They played me a few songs for their next proposed album, and I knew I was out of my depth! The audition was awesome. I opted to use my 83 precision, but could have chosen a 62 one off the rack of basses on the studio wall. We launched into one of the songs from Garden shed (At this time I had never heard any of this album, only what the played during the initial chat interview) and using a simple chord/tab sheet I was in! Phew, I coped, but only just. e did about three songs. They were awesome surrounding me, with beautiful, beautiful harmonies. After a chat amongst themselves, they said I hadn't passed, but kindly said that I would have fitted perfectly in the role otherwise. Alas, that was it. Apparently, I was one of about 100, so I didn't feel too bad. We said our good lucks and goodbyes. I kept my eyes on the music press, but they seemed to have dis-appeared into obscurity. I have since contacted Rob Webb (Keyboards) who is still waving the flag. Phew, you are so right, these guys could blow anyone off the stage. I still play the album often and think ... what if ... Thanks for reading all this. You (and Martin) are fantastic. Your knowledge is boundless, I spend ours watching your broadcasts and I would love to be able to do what you do. Richard (Also known as Eloi Morlock - Facebook channel @eloimorlock)
You are so right for Awaken. Speaking of Awaken, you have to listen to the version Jon Anderson made with Todmobile in Iceland 7 years ago. I cry every time I watch it. Every Yes fan should listen to this masterpiece. Goosebumps garanteed !!!
Excellent List, very interesting picks! As always, very fun and entertaining to watch and discuss. I take a bit of issue with your comments about newer prog being too much rehash and derivative. It can generally be true, but not always: Here's 10 (no particular order) newer ones that I think are inn the spirit of progressing the music: Mars Volta - Deloused in the Comatorium Cast - Angels and Demons DFA - DFA Animals as Leaders - Joy of Motion Saga - Generation 13 Kaipa - Urzkog Flower Kings - Flower Power Porcupine Tree - Stupid Dream Opeth - Ghost Reveries Ozric Tentacles - Spirals in Hyperspace
Maybe this would fit better on a list of 'prog albums people don't think of as prog'.... But one album I have always considered to be Prog is 'The World is a Ghetto' by War. When Eric Burdon put the band together he was envisioning a band that could play any genre... Country, Rock, Blues, Classical, Jazz, etc... which is what Prog was originally about.
Was fortunate to have heard Happy the Man live in D.C. many times back in the day. I was talking to them after a show one night. They had just returned from auditioning for Peter Gabriel. They told me that they tried to sound as much like Genesis as they could. And later when they were turned down, the main reason given was they sounded too much like Genesis. Might be a lesson in that.
"Rotter's Club" is a fabulous album, full of brilliant prog music, offered with warmth, humor, and an utter lack of pretension. Dave Stewart is my favorite of all the prog keyboardists (...or is it Kerry Minnear?). Mumps is a long form masterpiece. And Stewart's work on Steve Hillage's "Fish Rising" is freaking incredible.
My honourable mentions: Klaatu’s 1976 debut album : 3-47 EST - never see this show up on many prog lists. And to be clear, they are from Canada. For Your Pleasure by Roxy Music - there’s enough Eno-infused weirdness, looping, effects and synth to qualify this as prog but it’s rarely viewed as such. The song For Your Pleasure has arguably one of the greatest trippy-prog outros of all time. Beatles Sgt Pepper may not be technically prog, but it’s most definitely the great proto-prog album that rarely gets classified as such outside of prog circles.
Wow! Great list. definitely agreeing on some of the albums here. Top notch. I've got a list of my own, of course. Just to hit ya'all - On my top ten overlooked prog jams you can find - 10. The Hampton Grease Band - Music To eat (1970 ,US) 09. ELO - No Answer (1972, UK) 08. Boud Deun - The Stolen Bicycle (1998, US) 07. High Tide - High Tide (1970, UK) 06. Tasavallan Presidenti (1972, Finland) 05. Kahn - Space Shanty (1972, UK) 04. Riff Raff - Original Man (1974, UK) 03. King Crimson - Lizard (1970, UK) 02. Glenn Philips - Lost at Sea (1975, US) 01. The Cardiacs - Songs for Ships and Irons (1989, UK) There are a hundred more but I can clearly explain the thought behind each of these. On my Progometer they rank very high. These are albums that are true gems which have expanded the rock artform in the right proggy way. the compositions, English aesthetic (or other), virtuosity, instrument/studio trickery, long forms, jazz and classic influences, etc. I'd love to share more thoughts, arguments and deep dive analysis of some of the greatest moments in music history. Camel - Moonmadness, Yes - Going for the one, KC - Discipline, VDGG - Still life and Genesis TOTT - are all excellent records but I wouldn't call them overlooked! They are huge! super popular by most prog fans. Really difficult to make the list if the album sold over 100k copies.
So glad you've been mentioning "First Seven Days," because I had somehow forgotten all about it -- used to listen to it and "Like Children" constantly when they came out..It has aged really well.
One of my favorite hidden gems is "Maelstrom" by Avant Garden (2001). This is the only album that Avant Garden released and it is definitely a hidden gem of an album.
It is an interesting list, Andy. As a Canadian, I disagree with your point about Rush (vis-a-vis Kansas and Utopia), however I was glad to see Gino Vannelli represented on your list. He really does have some great prog moments, while able to maintain a great, hooky pop sensibility. Well done.
Yeah very true. I loved the prog 'continuation' as a four-piece. Wish it had continued longer, but hey Hackett wanted composer acceptance and wasn't getting it.
What a great list!!! Gino Vanelli, Moon Safari, Jon Anderson, Happy The Man, all would be on my list. Going For The One (Yes) and Trick Of The Tail (Genesis) are my favorite LPs of both bands. Awaken, in my opinion, surpasses Close To The Edge as the greatest prog song of all time. You have a new subscriber!
I thought the official live album Absent Lovers by Crimson does a really great job of condensing the best of those three 80s albums...Such an amazing lineup of musicians.
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Absolutely crimson kind of stands alone among classic prog bands for letting compositions grow and evolve live..and improvise. Indiscipline grew a lot live.. Not on that album but any live version of Easy Money is an entirely different song from the studio version
Great episode, Andy (lots of info, attitude and laughs)! I agree with you about your Yes and Genesis picks. Thanks also for giving me the heads-up on Moon Safari. Definitely a sound that resonates with me. Keep rocking!
Andy, you tease me talking about Peter Hammill solo stuff and then none made the list. The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage is the perfect introduction to his gripping mania as long as you start with the side with Red Shift on it. OK fellow prog nerds, who’s with me, particularly those out here in California.
dude i love your videos, I've learned so much and I thought I knew a lot...friggin Gino Vannelli. Never gave the guy a second thought. Who knew! Been going through the fusion videos too, thank you for sharing!
@@deansusec8745 If i go third place fav i end up with On The Silent Wings Of Freedom off Tormato which is an album many don't like but is my fav,so many amazing tracks, of course CTTE, South Side Of The Sky,a few of the sides off Topographic,but my initial thoughts for me are just next level stand outs.
Interesting video Andrew. England and Moon Safari were new bands to me, so I checked them out online. Those are both great albums. Especially the Moon Safari. Thanks for the heads up on these.
Lunatic Soul is my favorite modern prog band. The first two releases, "Lunatic Soul" & "Lunatic Soul II" are a concept project by Riverside singer Maruisz Duda.
My favorite overlooked prog masterpiece is definitely Peter Hammill 's The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage and if I had to choose one more , it's Fish Rising by Steve Hillage.
Put a smile on my face seeing Gino on the list- Graham is a local and shared a few gigs with him- he has kept busy as Paul Anka's drummer and first call jazz gigs in our part of Canada..
Some more: Focus - Hamburger Concerto Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Solar Fire Stomu Yamashta - Go Steve Hillage - Green 801 Live Jakko Jakszyk - The Bruised Romantic Glee Club
- YES "TORMATO " , the last great album by the band ( the album "Anderson, Bruford,Wakeman,Howe"notwithstanding). - GINO VANELLI : incredible mix of jazz fusion and prog with musiciens of Santana, Chick Corea, Jean Luc Ponty...
Tormato was the first Yes album I bought on release. I thought then, and still do, that it's utter crap. Appalling keyboard sounds. The Oberheim 4-voice and the Yamaha CS80 were available, but Wakeman chose the crappy Polymoog.
The cheesiness and pomposity of Wakeman 's playing / sounds are part his very extravagant personality. His presence adds contrast and humor to the music of Yes, aswell the virtuosity that lacks on "Drama" , in my opinion.
Moon Safari are great Lovers End part3 is Prog beach boys Beautiful and rocking with melodies to die for. Saw them live with Lazuli what a great double header that was.
Great list! Many recordings to explore, that are new to me. I knew the name Gino Vannelli, and likely heard a couple of his hit singles, at one time or another. Gist of the Gemini is a REALLY BIG surprise! What a voice and what great compositions. If you haven't read his bio on Wiki, it is worth the read. For the benefit of Andy's faithful viewers, let's not overlook the band Caldera (for some awesome jazz-latin fusion) and the Christian Prog band, Iona (for amazing Celtic-infused prog). I'm bad at picking favorite releases, so you'll have to largely explore them on your own. But if pressed, I'd start with Caldera's 1978 Time And Chance, and Iona's 1996 Journey Into The Morn. Keep up the great vids, Andy! We're on the same page.
Tago Mago is magical but sooooooo strange especially the last few tracks. My last acid trip many moons ago I had this on after a party and could feel my brain melting into the couch in disbelief of the insane sounds I was hearing. My mom called me a couple of hours later wanting me to clean the gutters on her roof LOL!!! I really really thought I was gonna die.
Agreed ,Going For The One is my fave Yes album and Awaken is my fave piece of music ever. As for Genesis, Trick and Wind are my favourites, can't agree about after 1980 though when they went completely downhill imho..as did Yes. I stuck with Rush through the 80's though.
Rotter's Club! 👏 The ultimate Canterbury album! And Happy the Man too! There are a few great Happy the Man offshoots, such as Oblivion Sun and Frank Wyatt & Friends.
Great show Andy. I’ve seen some of your stuff on SOT and think you have an impressive knowledge on Jazz Fusion and Prog in general… your MoonSafari pick was quite unexpected, but so accurate! Those musicians can be as symphonic as they want, as epic as they desire, and as poppy as pop music can get, and still sound perfect. That album is amazing, as is the test of their catalog, without exception. Sweet as candy (almost on the guilty pleasure frontier) and tasty as your favorite meal. Also 109% agreed on the TOFT number one choice, simply grandiose album. Kudos on your channel! Cheers 🍻
Good list! The albums I know, I agree about which means I’m going to have to find the couple I don’t and check them out. In my book Trick of the Tail is Genesis’ best album, Going For The One is Yes’ second best (after CttE) and Discipline is the KC album I enjoy most, even though it seems to lack a little of the seriousness and intensity of their early 70’s output. I might have added in some Gentle Giant (Octopus? Interview?) and definitely Cardiacs (On Land And In The Sea). Good to see some love for Olias, Hatfield and the North, Jan Hamer and England. Excellent stuff.
Thank you for the well-deserved shout out to Moon Safari, Mr. Edwards. All you said rings true in my (amateur) opinion. Genesis is (and has always been) my favourite: '71-'80, but I was so happy to have discovered Moon Safari during the pandemic. I would love it if they toured Canada!
Great video and chat. WOW. Moon safari!!! What a band. Listen ed to Blomdjud and also Lover's end which I thought equally as good. Your description is spot on. My ears also pick up a bit of Reo speed wagon in the vocals. Also loved your drumming in your few years with IQ.
Hi Andy great video,I've been listening to Michael Chapmans fully qualified survivor a lot recently ,notnonlh is this album overlooked but is in my opinion progy in a folks way ,brilliant album if you've not heard it All the best chris...
Olias of Sunhillow is a fantastic album that reminds me of a sort of distilled Tales From Topographic Oceans without the boring bits. I love Tales btw. Happy The Man I’ve seen live twice and as a stoned teenager I loved them. Still do. An undersung band
OOOOOOOOH man... you just F'n redeemed yourself with one of THE absolute *GREATEST* albums of all time... DISCIPLINE!!! Out of over 2500 vinyl albums and 40+ years of pretending to be an Audiophile, that is indeed one of my ALL TIME favourite albums!
Great list to make us visit or revisit these albums. Thanks for including Moon Safari - Great guys and super talented. Your comparison to other bands named was all over the map but spot on. Wonderful harmonies, rhythm section, guitar and lyrics pulled together seamlessly. AND, new studio album on the way. Well done.
Thanks Andy. Glad you made this list, great you mentioned Discipline and Trick of the Tail two great albums. I would add Land of Grey and Pink by Caravan and Moonmadness by Camel. Keep it up.
Nice discussion. Love that you included Happy The Man. A great band with unfortunate timing. Always impressed by the fact that Crimson had not one but two albums that went on to (somewhat) define a genre. ITCOTCK laid the foundations of prog while Discipline did the same for Math Rock. You know, I've always had a guilty pleasure induced soft spot for Vannelli's "Brother to Brother" album. I don't know Moon Safari but I'll have to check 'em out. And sorry about the whole Canadian/American thing. I feel so bad now... ;-)
I wore out the 8 track of Going For The One. Awaken is monumental. They all fight for the last note. Steve Howe plays varied instruments in varied styles. A tour de force. JT
I only knew Larks Tongues and In The Court when Discipline came out. I was shocked by how different it was. It took me several listens to get my head around it. It's a brilliant album. I too think Awaken is one of Yes' best tunes and I loved Going For The One since it was released. Trick of the Tail is superb but Robbery, Assault and Battery I struggle to like. Wind and Wuthering is definitely on a par with Trick, for me at least but let down by a slightly meandering first side. The second side of Wind and Wuthering is, I feel, the best 20 minutes they ever produced. Garden Shed is a great album too but I'll have to investigate some of you other suggestions. Thanks as ever for a great video.
You would’ve really raised some eyebrows if you included the second album by L.A. punk band Bad Religion, Into The Unknown from 1983. These punks had the audacity to make a record filled with synthesizers, piano, noodley organ solos, shifting time signatures, and 12 string acoustic guitar a la Yes’ And You And I. Plus the band still has their signature melodic sensibilities and harmonies intact. It’s a very strange detour by one of the most successful punk bands of all time.
Bo Hanssen's -'Lord Of The Rings' is a good listen.Very spooky and ethereal keyboarding's that had Hendrix keen to work with him.I would think it fits into the prog genre to a degree ?.'House of Elrond' is especially beguiling.
Totally agree with your top 3 Andy. As you said Discipline was ground breaking & hugely influential & what an incarnation Fripp/Belew/Bruford/Levin, incredible! A Trick of the Tail, first Genesis album for me back in '76 & still my favourite with Selling England a close second. ATOTT had everything, brilliant writing, musicianship, atmosphere, production & Phil's vocal performance right off the bat was phenomenal. I adore Going for the One, so different but no less brilliant & as you said, it rocks. For me Awaken is their greatest piece & my personal favourite. It's almost impossible to pick a favourite album from Close to the Edge, Relayer & Going for the One, they're all magnificent in their own way & their epics are like Yes's holy trinity to me. Also your inclusion of Olias of Sunhillow is more than justified, for me the best solo album to come from any of the Yes members, totally unique, a work of extraordinary innovation, skill and imagination, and a perfect fusion of ideas and influences in it's originality. Cheers
21:52 From Genesis to Revelation; and when I heard Rick Wakeman's North Plain like it was a tune from this album, it all makes sense. Both The Serpent and In the Wilderness come to mind.
Yesterday prompted me to recall another very overlooked prog masterpiece: "In a Glass House" by Gentle Giant. It was overlooked when it came out. The record company refused to release it in the US. It was only available in Europe. Well, yesterday was the 49th anniversary of the release of the album.
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Hi Andy :) been looking into "The Giant" since a mention from yourself about "Octopus", which is the only title of theirs that I was smart enough to purchase at the time of release. I knew of "In a Glass House" as a friend of mine had a copy. During that era, my favourite band was Hatfield and the North and I'm pleased to see you mention them and rate them here. Rotters Club is still my favourite prog album. However, in hindsight and looking at the sheer volume of Gentle Giant's excellent back catalogue, I've come to the conclusion that their overall contribution sets them up as the most consistent prog rock band of all time. Cheers :)
Gino Vannelli is one of " my boys" One of my favorites of all time. The best songs, the best musicians and the best records ever produced. A Canadian legend. A true musician in touch with his fellow players. All the best drummers played with Gino. And as I recall from a interview with Dave Weckl, he expressed interest to record with Gino too.
Some very good tips. Here are ten of mine. -
Jan Akkerman 1973: Tabernakel,
Seventh Wave 1975: Psi-Fi ,
Peter Hammill 1974: In camera,
Michael Mantler 1976 (with Robert Wyatt & Terje Rypdal): The Hapless Child,
Terje Rypdal 1974: Whenever i seem to be far away,
Procol Harum 1973: Grand Hotel,
Mahavisnu Orchestra 1975: Visions of the emerald beyond,
Cardiacs 1996 Sing to God (including the most fantastic song ever written, "Dirty boy", look it up as soon as you can, if you havent already),
Tim Smith (from Cardiacs) 1995 Extra special OceanLandWorld, &
Älgarnas Trädgård 1972: Framtiden Är Ett Svävande Skepp, Förankrat I Forntiden
7th Wave & Hapless Child are great catches (I love all of Rypdal's 70s work). Akkerman's 1st solo album Profile is also a treasure.
Awaken is one if the greatest compositions ever. Turn of the Century is awesome too.
Trick of the Tail is a worthy number one. It's my favourite Genesis album. I also love Discipline, which is as you say a hugely influential album.
I learn something new every time I visit this channel!
Trick of the Tail is indeed a masterpiece. Selling England is the best Genesis album though. Wind and Wuthering is also very underrated.
In my view, the most vocally advanced prog band is Gentle Giant, not Moon Safari
A Trick of the Tail is my favourite Genesis album.
Todd Rundgren's Utopia. Great Prog ROCK from someone too often written off as a pop/novelty act. Criminally overlooked.
Perhaps the greatest prog album to come out of the USA...followed by Happy The Man and Kansas...
Camel "Moon Madness" is an album I'd put on my list
I was really expecting a Camel album.
@@ErickGarcia-qs2yhcamel is trite
Really happy to see the amazing Happy The Man getting a shout out. You’re beaming out the love, Andy. ‘Tis great.
Thanks again!
" Trick of the Tail " is fantastic , I agree with you Andy.
The best!
Franco Battiato's "Sulle Corde di Aries" (1973) is criminally underrated and deserves mention in this context. Takes the best of "Meddle" era Pink Floyd, free jazz, experimental use of electronics like the VCS3, and classical leanings to create a dense difficult work that I find extremely rewarding. Really left field stuff but an extraordinarily fascinating listen for the open minded. And it has one of the best album covers in prog!
chris squire's album 'fish out of water' was an overlooked masterpiece. 'Hold out your hand' and 'lucky seven' remain two of my fave prog tracks.
Is it true prog nerds wear sandals and socks?
@@johngilmore697 I suppose that it depends on the weather. Why are you interested in what other people wear?
Some great suggestions to listen to! Thank you!
So glad that you checked out Happy The Man.
Changed my life.
Thanks for your efforts.
JT
I would have added Camel's the Snow Goose or Moon Madness. but you have a fantastic list here. So happy to see Happy the Man, and Discipline on your list, besides Gino Vanelli.
Discipline and Going for the One are my two favourite albums by their respective performers. So creative and satisfying. I agree about A Trick of the Tail too. Subscribed.
I’m glad to see Moon Safari on the list. Another great swedish prog band is the Flower Kings. I think the Flower Kings inspired Moon Safari a lot.
That could be the case...I gigged with The Flower Kings back in the day when I was in Frost, they are a great prog band and a little fusiony too.
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer By the way, blomljud means flowersound. Perhaps you hear some flowersound on the album. I’m not an expert on flowersounds, so I’m not able to tell. ;-)
Gino Vannelli! Huge fan! My sister and I saw him in concert during the BROTHER TO BROTHER tour, and it remains one of our most favorite shows ever.
That tour looks pretty insane. An in incredible mix of MOR and jaw dropping fusion.
Rotter’s Club is SOLID. Great choice!
You actually made me think as to why I come to the channel. Is it that you 'Rank' these albums? Not for me. It is true, that I gravitate to many of your Prog-Fusion sensibilities and therefore enjoy your selections (mostly). Now when I don't agree? So be it. But, more valuable for me is when I don't know the album at all. This then throws gasoline on my 'Prog -Fusion Fire' to search them out and listen. I find the channel highly educational for me in that regard.
I'm a longtime Yes fan, and I've underappreciated Going for the One. I'm becoming more and more aware of its greatness from start to finish. It could be one of those albums that is best listening to side 2 first. A Trick of the Tail was my introduction to Genesis. Agreed on its greatness.
Love your stuff! Renter after my own heart. This is a long comment, so don’t expect you to read it all. It’s about England.
In 1978 I attended an audition as Bassist/Vocalist as a replacement for Martin Henderson. Garden Shed had just gone big in the Us and Martin had just quit. Thy needed a quick replacement for a potential US tour in about a month's time. They lived in a huge house in the country with the three existing members and an all rounder - roadie/recording engineer. The house was complete with a studio. The audition was a three job, with chat, snack and then musical audition. They were 3 really nice guys (Rob, Jode and Frank) and I fitted in well. They played me a few songs for their next proposed album, and I knew I was out of my depth! The audition was awesome. I opted to use my 83 precision, but could have chosen a 62 one off the rack of basses on the studio wall.
We launched into one of the songs from Garden shed (At this time I had never heard any of this album, only what the played during the initial chat interview) and using a simple chord/tab sheet I was in! Phew, I coped, but only just. e did about three songs. They were awesome surrounding me, with beautiful, beautiful harmonies.
After a chat amongst themselves, they said I hadn't passed, but kindly said that I would have fitted perfectly in the role otherwise. Alas, that was it. Apparently, I was one of about 100, so I didn't feel too bad. We said our good lucks and goodbyes.
I kept my eyes on the music press, but they seemed to have dis-appeared into obscurity. I have since contacted Rob Webb (Keyboards) who is still waving the flag.
Phew, you are so right, these guys could blow anyone off the stage. I still play the album often and think ... what if ...
Thanks for reading all this. You (and Martin) are fantastic. Your knowledge is boundless, I spend ours watching your broadcasts and I would love to be able to do what you do.
Richard (Also known as Eloi Morlock - Facebook channel @eloimorlock)
You are so right for Awaken. Speaking of Awaken, you have to listen to the version Jon Anderson made with Todmobile in Iceland 7 years ago. I cry every time I watch it. Every Yes fan should listen to this masterpiece. Goosebumps garanteed !!!
Excellent List, very interesting picks! As always, very fun and entertaining to watch and discuss. I take a bit of issue with your comments about newer prog being too much rehash and derivative. It can generally be true, but not always: Here's 10 (no particular order) newer ones that I think are inn the spirit of progressing the music:
Mars Volta - Deloused in the Comatorium
Cast - Angels and Demons
DFA - DFA
Animals as Leaders - Joy of Motion
Saga - Generation 13
Kaipa - Urzkog
Flower Kings - Flower Power
Porcupine Tree - Stupid Dream
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Ozric Tentacles - Spirals in Hyperspace
Maybe this would fit better on a list of 'prog albums people don't think of as prog'.... But one album I have always considered to be Prog is 'The World is a Ghetto' by War. When Eric Burdon put the band together he was envisioning a band that could play any genre... Country, Rock, Blues, Classical, Jazz, etc...
which is what Prog was originally about.
Very entertaining, thanks Andy. But the most overlooked Prog band is surely Gentle Giant!
Was fortunate to have heard Happy the Man live in D.C. many times back in the day.
I was talking to them after a show one night. They had just returned from auditioning for Peter Gabriel. They told me that they tried to sound as much like Genesis as they could.
And later when they were turned down, the main reason given was they sounded too much like Genesis. Might be a lesson in that.
I got SO lucky to see their reunion show at NearFest. Phenomenal show!
Good job Andy....I took notes...
Great choices, so nice to see Happy the Man on the list.
"Rotter's Club" is a fabulous album, full of brilliant prog music, offered with warmth, humor, and an utter lack of pretension. Dave Stewart is my favorite of all the prog keyboardists (...or is it Kerry Minnear?). Mumps is a long form masterpiece. And Stewart's work on Steve Hillage's "Fish Rising" is freaking incredible.
Yes...Mumps made my top ten prog epics too
If you like Mumps, try listening to Tenemos Roads by National Health if you haven't already that is.
My honourable mentions:
Klaatu’s 1976 debut album : 3-47 EST - never see this show up on many prog lists. And to be clear, they are from Canada.
For Your Pleasure by Roxy Music - there’s enough Eno-infused weirdness, looping, effects and synth to qualify this as prog but it’s rarely viewed as such. The song For Your Pleasure has arguably one of the greatest trippy-prog outros of all time.
Beatles Sgt Pepper may not be technically prog, but it’s most definitely the great proto-prog album that rarely gets classified as such outside of prog circles.
I would add Hope by Klaatu as well.
Got into Roxy Music recently. I agree great album. Love the bass playing.
@@danny1959 I came to this comment section specifically to suggest the Klaatu's Hope needs to be on a list like this too!
@@ericmckayrq Good shout sir.
Thanks for including Moon Safari - I love their stuff so much! 👍
'Trick of the Tail' by Genesis & 'Crime of the Century' by Supertramp are my two most played albums - over 40 odd years, says it all
Wow! Great list. definitely agreeing on some of the albums here. Top notch. I've got a list of my own, of course.
Just to hit ya'all - On my top ten overlooked prog jams you can find -
10. The Hampton Grease Band - Music To eat (1970 ,US)
09. ELO - No Answer (1972, UK)
08. Boud Deun - The Stolen Bicycle (1998, US)
07. High Tide - High Tide (1970, UK)
06. Tasavallan Presidenti (1972, Finland)
05. Kahn - Space Shanty (1972, UK)
04. Riff Raff - Original Man (1974, UK)
03. King Crimson - Lizard (1970, UK)
02. Glenn Philips - Lost at Sea (1975, US)
01. The Cardiacs - Songs for Ships and Irons (1989, UK)
There are a hundred more but I can clearly explain the thought behind each of these. On my Progometer they rank very high. These are albums that are true gems which have expanded the rock artform in the right proggy way. the compositions, English aesthetic (or other), virtuosity, instrument/studio trickery, long forms, jazz and classic influences, etc. I'd love to share more thoughts, arguments and deep dive analysis of some of the greatest moments in music history.
Camel - Moonmadness, Yes - Going for the one, KC - Discipline, VDGG - Still life and Genesis TOTT - are all excellent records but I wouldn't call them overlooked! They are huge! super popular by most prog fans. Really difficult to make the list if the album sold over 100k copies.
I recently went back to Going For The One and re listened - and I’m thankful that I did. I was Awaken-Ed!
Totally agree with your choices and thanks for bringing up Happy the Man! And, for introducing me to Moon Safari and England!!
My pleasure!
Greenslade is criminally overlooked. Spyglass Guest my favourite.
So glad you've been mentioning "First Seven Days," because I had somehow forgotten all about it -- used to listen to it and "Like Children" constantly when they came out..It has aged really well.
Happy The Man, too! Great stuff.
One of my favorite hidden gems is "Maelstrom" by Avant Garden (2001). This is the only album that Avant Garden released and it is definitely a hidden gem of an album.
"Of Queues and Cures" by National Health.
One of the two great prog albums released in 1978.
Second that. And Dreams Wide Awake may have the best keyboard solo in prog.
Terrific band
It is an interesting list, Andy. As a Canadian, I disagree with your point about Rush (vis-a-vis Kansas and Utopia), however I was glad to see Gino Vannelli represented on your list. He really does have some great prog moments, while able to maintain a great, hooky pop sensibility. Well done.
Always like A Trick of the Tail. For me Genesis doesn’t divide into Gabriel/post Gabriel eras but rather Hackett/post Hackett eras.
That is a much wiser distinction I think...
I've always thought that
Yeah very true. I loved the prog 'continuation' as a four-piece. Wish it had continued longer, but hey Hackett wanted composer acceptance and wasn't getting it.
What a great list!!! Gino Vanelli, Moon Safari, Jon Anderson, Happy The Man, all would be on my list. Going For The One (Yes) and Trick Of The Tail (Genesis) are my favorite LPs of both bands. Awaken, in my opinion, surpasses Close To The Edge as the greatest prog song of all time. You have a new subscriber!
Happy the Man gets some love!!
I thought the official live album Absent Lovers by Crimson does a really great job of condensing the best of those three 80s albums...Such an amazing lineup of musicians.
I have not heard it but I have been told it's fantastic
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Absolutely crimson kind of stands alone among classic prog bands for letting compositions grow and evolve live..and improvise. Indiscipline grew a lot live..
Not on that album but any live version of Easy Money is an entirely different song from the studio version
Check out bboom official bootleg live in Argentina. Think it was recorded from the desk.
Thanks Andy. I really enjoyed the suggestions of Moon Safari and England. - Chris
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great episode, Andy (lots of info, attitude and laughs)! I agree with you about your Yes and Genesis picks. Thanks also for giving me the heads-up on Moon Safari. Definitely a sound that resonates with me. Keep rocking!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Moon Safari and Gino Vallenti, that’s my weekend. Thanks for those suggestions
Nektar - Remember The Future 🎶
No doubt the most overlooked Prog Masterpiece !!!
Andy, you tease me talking about Peter Hammill solo stuff and then none made the list. The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage is the perfect introduction to his gripping mania as long as you start with the side with Red Shift on it. OK fellow prog nerds, who’s with me, particularly those out here in California.
dude i love your videos, I've learned so much and I thought I knew a lot...friggin Gino Vannelli. Never gave the guy a second thought. Who knew! Been going through the fusion videos too, thank you for sharing!
As an old crimson cat... "Discipline" was a gem.
"Indiscipline".
Peace on earth.
Awaken/ Gates Of Delirium are my joint all time fav tracks and i also go with live version off Yesshows for Gates..
I'm having zrouble picking from the two! ( unfortunately, Close to the edge is trying to get in the competition also!)
@@deansusec8745 If i go third place fav i end up with On The Silent Wings Of Freedom off Tormato which is an album many don't like but is my fav,so many amazing tracks, of course CTTE, South Side Of The Sky,a few of the sides off Topographic,but my initial thoughts for me are just next level stand outs.
Going for the one is the first yes album i got , still love it .
Interesting video Andrew. England and Moon Safari were new bands to me, so I checked them out online. Those are both great albums. Especially the Moon Safari. Thanks for the heads up on these.
Glad to have been able to introduce you to these bands...
Lunatic Soul is my favorite modern prog band. The first two releases, "Lunatic Soul" & "Lunatic Soul II" are a concept project by Riverside singer Maruisz Duda.
My favorite overlooked prog masterpiece is definitely Peter Hammill 's The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage and if I had to choose one more , it's Fish Rising by Steve Hillage.
I'd throw in some Renaissance. Scheherazade is my favourite, but the most overlooked gem is probably Novella.
A Song For All Seasons!
Not to mention Ashes are Burning
Put a smile on my face seeing Gino on the list- Graham is a local and shared a few gigs with him- he has kept busy as Paul Anka's drummer and first call jazz gigs in our part of Canada..
Cat Stevens’ Foreigner Suite is epic mowtowny prog ... I love the weird fusion styles....under appreciated
Cat Stevens’ Numbers is really proggy
Some more:
Focus - Hamburger Concerto
Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Solar Fire
Stomu Yamashta - Go
Steve Hillage - Green
801 Live
Jakko Jakszyk - The Bruised Romantic Glee Club
- YES "TORMATO " , the last great album by the band ( the album "Anderson, Bruford,Wakeman,Howe"notwithstanding).
- GINO VANELLI : incredible mix of jazz fusion and prog with musiciens of Santana, Chick Corea, Jean Luc Ponty...
Tormato was the first Yes album I bought on release. I thought then, and still do, that it's utter crap.
Appalling keyboard sounds. The Oberheim 4-voice and the Yamaha CS80 were available, but Wakeman chose the crappy Polymoog.
Drama is better than Tormato...but Going For The One IS a masterpiece
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Works like a charm!
The cheesiness and pomposity of Wakeman 's playing / sounds are part his very extravagant personality. His presence adds contrast and humor to the music of Yes, aswell the virtuosity that lacks on "Drama" , in my opinion.
Moon Safari are great Lovers End part3 is Prog beach boys Beautiful and rocking with melodies to die for. Saw them live with Lazuli what a great double header that was.
Great list! Many recordings to explore, that are new to me. I knew the name Gino Vannelli, and likely heard a couple of his hit singles, at one time or another. Gist of the Gemini is a REALLY BIG surprise! What a voice and what great compositions. If you haven't read his bio on Wiki, it is worth the read.
For the benefit of Andy's faithful viewers, let's not overlook the band Caldera (for some awesome jazz-latin fusion) and the Christian Prog band, Iona (for amazing Celtic-infused prog). I'm bad at picking favorite releases, so you'll have to largely explore them on your own. But if pressed, I'd start with Caldera's 1978 Time And Chance, and Iona's 1996 Journey Into The Morn.
Keep up the great vids, Andy! We're on the same page.
Your list is like a Cream Doughnut!😺
Nobody ever mentions CAN, so I will -Tago Mago is worth a listen. Or two... or...
Tago Mago is magical but sooooooo strange especially the last few tracks. My last acid trip many moons ago I had this on after a party and could feel my brain melting into the couch in disbelief of the insane sounds I was hearing. My mom called me a couple of hours later wanting me to clean the gutters on her roof LOL!!! I really really thought I was gonna die.
Faust, Can, Magma...I wish I knew more about them. Listened to Tago Mago a few times. It's interesting stuff but never frabbed me when I was younger.
Agreed ,Going For The One is my fave Yes album and Awaken is my fave piece of music ever. As for Genesis, Trick and Wind are my favourites, can't agree about after 1980 though when they went completely downhill imho..as did Yes. I stuck with Rush through the 80's though.
Rotter's Club! 👏 The ultimate Canterbury album! And Happy the Man too! There are a few great Happy the Man offshoots, such as Oblivion Sun and Frank Wyatt & Friends.
Great show Andy. I’ve seen some of your stuff on SOT and think you have an impressive knowledge on Jazz Fusion and Prog in general… your MoonSafari pick was quite unexpected, but so accurate! Those musicians can be as symphonic as they want, as epic as they desire, and as poppy as pop music can get, and still sound perfect. That album is amazing, as is the test of their catalog, without exception. Sweet as candy (almost on the guilty pleasure frontier) and tasty as your favorite meal. Also 109% agreed on the TOFT number one choice, simply grandiose album. Kudos on your channel! Cheers 🍻
I have a strange story about Moon Safari that I might tell one day...
So happy you mentioned Olias! And "the pinnacle", no less. Wonderful, beautiful!
Love the way you pick out the Collins-Hackett era as Genesis peak. I agree 100!!
Good list! The albums I know, I agree about which means I’m going to have to find the couple I don’t and check them out. In my book Trick of the Tail is Genesis’ best album, Going For The One is Yes’ second best (after CttE) and Discipline is the KC album I enjoy most, even though it seems to lack a little of the seriousness and intensity of their early 70’s output. I might have added in some Gentle Giant (Octopus? Interview?) and definitely Cardiacs (On Land And In The Sea). Good to see some love for Olias, Hatfield and the North, Jan Hamer and England. Excellent stuff.
Thank you for the well-deserved shout out to Moon Safari, Mr. Edwards. All you said rings true in my (amateur) opinion. Genesis is (and has always been) my favourite: '71-'80, but I was so happy to have discovered Moon Safari during the pandemic. I would love it if they toured Canada!
England is brilliant! Fantastic choice!
You're absolutely right Andy the titles of your vids are truly click worthy! Keep it up.
Great video and chat.
WOW. Moon safari!!! What a band. Listen ed to Blomdjud and also Lover's end which I thought equally as good.
Your description is spot on. My ears also pick up a bit of Reo speed wagon in the vocals.
Also loved your drumming in your few years with IQ.
Hi Andy great video,I've been listening to Michael Chapmans fully qualified survivor a lot recently ,notnonlh is this album overlooked but is in my opinion progy in a folks way ,brilliant album if you've not heard it
All the best chris...
Well done, Andy. No easy feat. Thank you.
Many thanks!
Olias of Sunhillow is a fantastic album that reminds me of a sort of distilled Tales From Topographic Oceans without the boring bits. I love Tales btw. Happy The Man I’ve seen live twice and as a stoned teenager I loved them. Still do. An undersung band
OOOOOOOOH man... you just F'n redeemed yourself with one of THE absolute *GREATEST* albums of all time... DISCIPLINE!!! Out of over 2500 vinyl albums and 40+ years of pretending to be an Audiophile, that is indeed one of my ALL TIME favourite albums!
Arguably the greatest Crimson album....
Focus 3 by Focus would be my contender.
Great list to make us visit or revisit these albums. Thanks for including Moon Safari - Great guys and super talented. Your comparison to other bands named was all over the map but spot on. Wonderful harmonies, rhythm section, guitar and lyrics pulled together seamlessly. AND, new studio album on the way. Well done.
The last three albums, mate, absolutely spot on!!!
I've always considered the Who's Quadrophenia is their one Prog album.
Long instrumentals, synths/ horns and effects...my fave from this classic band.
I listened again to Tommy to see how prog it is. I decided it is truly a rock opera and lacks many qualities we associate with prog.
Man, "Awaken". For me this is *the* most emotionally charged Yes epic. Listening to it, top to tail, makes me feel high.
Thanks Andy. Glad you made this list, great you mentioned Discipline and Trick of the Tail two great albums. I would add Land of Grey and Pink by Caravan and Moonmadness by Camel.
Keep it up.
I do mention Land of Grey and Pink but for me in terms of Cantervury bands it's Rotters Club...
Nice discussion. Love that you included Happy The Man. A great band with unfortunate timing. Always impressed by the fact that Crimson had not one but two albums that went on to (somewhat) define a genre. ITCOTCK laid the foundations of prog while Discipline did the same for Math Rock. You know, I've always had a guilty pleasure induced soft spot for Vannelli's "Brother to Brother" album. I don't know Moon Safari but I'll have to check 'em out. And sorry about the whole Canadian/American thing. I feel so bad now... ;-)
I wore out the 8 track of Going For The One. Awaken is monumental. They all fight for the last note.
Steve Howe plays varied instruments in varied styles. A tour de force.
JT
I only knew Larks Tongues and In The Court when Discipline came out. I was shocked by how different it was. It took me several listens to get my head around it. It's a brilliant album. I too think Awaken is one of Yes' best tunes and I loved Going For The One since it was released. Trick of the Tail is superb but Robbery, Assault and Battery I struggle to like. Wind and Wuthering is definitely on a par with Trick, for me at least but let down by a slightly meandering first side. The second side of Wind and Wuthering is, I feel, the best 20 minutes they ever produced.
Garden Shed is a great album too but I'll have to investigate some of you other suggestions. Thanks as ever for a great video.
You would’ve really raised some eyebrows if you included the second album by L.A. punk band Bad Religion, Into The Unknown from 1983. These punks had the audacity to make a record filled with synthesizers, piano, noodley organ solos, shifting time signatures, and 12 string acoustic guitar a la Yes’ And You And I. Plus the band still has their signature melodic sensibilities and harmonies intact. It’s a very strange detour by one of the most successful punk bands of all time.
Bo Hanssen's -'Lord Of The Rings' is a good listen.Very spooky and ethereal keyboarding's that had Hendrix keen to work with him.I would think it fits into the prog genre to a degree ?.'House of Elrond' is especially beguiling.
Spock’s Beard has become one of my favourites…
Congratulations on 3k subs 🎉
Pink Floyd - "Atom Heart Mother"
One of their most underrated masterpieces pre-Dark Side
Without out a doubt...i have talked about that album elsewhere
Its mainly underrated by the Pink Floyd Members, Waters and Gilmore.
You listed Gino Vanelli, but left out Milli Vanilli...😿
Totally agree with your top 3 Andy. As you said Discipline was ground breaking & hugely influential & what an incarnation Fripp/Belew/Bruford/Levin, incredible! A Trick of the Tail, first Genesis album for me back in '76 & still my favourite with Selling England a close second. ATOTT had everything, brilliant writing, musicianship, atmosphere, production & Phil's vocal performance right off the bat was phenomenal. I adore Going for the One, so different but no less brilliant & as you said, it rocks. For me Awaken is their greatest piece & my personal favourite. It's almost impossible to pick a favourite album from Close to the Edge, Relayer & Going for the One, they're all magnificent in their own way & their epics are like Yes's holy trinity to me. Also your inclusion of Olias of Sunhillow is more than justified, for me the best solo album to come from any of the Yes members, totally unique, a work of extraordinary innovation, skill and imagination, and a perfect fusion of ideas and influences in it's originality. Cheers
21:52 From Genesis to Revelation; and when I heard Rick Wakeman's North Plain like it was a tune from this album, it all makes sense. Both The Serpent and In the Wilderness come to mind.
Yesterday prompted me to recall another very overlooked prog masterpiece: "In a Glass House" by Gentle Giant. It was overlooked when it came out. The record company refused to release it in the US. It was only available in Europe. Well, yesterday was the 49th anniversary of the release of the album.
That is actually a great choice...one of their true masterpieces and definitely overlooked
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Hi Andy :) been looking into "The Giant" since a mention from yourself about "Octopus", which is the only title of theirs that I was smart enough to purchase at the time of release. I knew of "In a Glass House" as a friend of mine had a copy.
During that era, my favourite band was Hatfield and the North and I'm pleased to see you mention them and rate them here. Rotters Club is still my favourite prog album.
However, in hindsight and looking at the sheer volume of Gentle Giant's excellent back catalogue, I've come to the conclusion that their overall contribution sets them up as the most consistent prog rock band of all time. Cheers :)
Thanks so much for doing this, you had me at Happy The Man...I thought I was the only that had the album...lol
a great smile with this list. the first 6 were new for me but what a masterpieces .you said .
thank you always curious about new music
My pleasure!
Gino Vannelli is one of " my boys" One of my favorites of all time. The best songs, the best musicians and the best records ever produced. A Canadian legend. A true musician in touch with his fellow players. All the best drummers played with Gino. And as I recall from a interview with Dave Weckl, he expressed interest to record with Gino too.
He is in a category all of his own
You are bang on about Going for the One AND Trick of the Tail !!! Both albums are absolute masterpieces.