Magic Questions - Should you buy CHEAP MAGIC from AliExpress?
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see the bolt and nut trick performed here www.tiktok.com/@magicorthodoxy/video/7154414324377849130?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&lang=en
Great trick and great performance! I can figure out how it works but it's an amazing presentation!
I have the nut and bolt as part of my EDC, it's a fun little throwaway bit of magic Quick tip, instead of trying to hide the magnet somewhere, you can use a PK ring instead.
Very cool! But what about the demo of floating ring?
You should remove the Big cylender on nut it's juste to take off the battery 😂
omg man.... when you opened the fake bikes and you read the box saying "I'm glad they are telling me they are comfortable" .... then you get your hands on the deck. and you said it" they are NOT COMFORTABLE" had me in tears lol 😂
lol
@@magicorthodoxy wondering if I should just try to get the coins and risk the $60. just to see if the coins will actually come or if I'll be ripped off. haha. what do u think the moral way to go with that would be? I bought a set of the coins from Dean way back for 1500. so In my head I'm thinking it's not like I'm trying to get the trick without paying the creator. more out of curiosity. maybe I'll ask I'm Jaimie skool Kraft if it's cool to conduct the experiment. what are your thoughts?
I have purchased a few of the nut and bolt effects and although it can be a bit loud, it works great in a bar setting. I don’t know if anyone knows this but the nut can either spin off or further up the bolt depending on which side of the magnet is pressed to the battery compartment. Ali express will email you the instructions for any trick you buy.
oh interesting
"G of clubs" LMAO. I love this review. Is it just me? I've been buying magic for over 20 years, I LOVE going to the store and buying effects. Or even ordering some online. But even though I already know how most are done, when I finally get them home and I sit and play with them there's this kind of disappointment. I remember getting my first trick and the guy warned me that once I started magic I'd lose that sense of wonderment, he was right I guess. It's a sick addiction I think, buying magic. I love performing effects for people. I get excited going to the shop. I love having unopened effects in a bag and going home. But once I sit and open them, it's like the day after Christmas. Is it just me?
it's not just you
Aliexpress is great for finding some discontinued tricks that I couldn't get anywhere else. The quality was for the most part has been excellent. I'd stick away from the cheap decks though.
seems super hit or miss
@@magicorthodoxy sounds about right
Examples?
I haven’t had any issues with sites that sell just the downloads … but the actual product sites have been re-packaged, cheaper versions of the authentic trick … thanks for sharing David 👍👍
Thanks for the info!
I have ordered from aliexpress, stuff hasn't arrived yet but something that caught my eye was apparently a $2 Crystal Cleaver ($5 with shipping). even if it's knockoffs it's way more expensive/out of stock to get the real thing secondhand. sort of interesting: there are many items with pictures with blurred bicycle rider backs. Not sure if it means they are trying to pass it off as rider back or not, or if the blurred parts are actually not the same. I didn't order any of those so that's interesting I guess.
Buzzzzz... That is the sound of magic!... That made me laugh, best line ever!! Great video as usual.
Glad you enjoyed it
The large piece on the bolt comes of. It is only used for pushing the batteries out. Just the nut goes on. Then the nut will move smoothly.
yup
attempts faro ..."like 2 trucks hitting each other on the street".... David you low key, unknowingly or maybe knowingly lol I don't know .... dropped some comedy gems haha. so many lines and moments. I hope you are able to do more of these. of just you ordering magic and opening it. haha.
I do unboxings in the Inner circle and I do the deck collection videos on Saturday, lots of funny in those
Super dope video thank you for reviewing AliExpress I was kind of wondering about it myself but you sir are the brave one❤
No problem 👍
The marked cards are also stripped if you didn't know.
full review here czcams.com/video/w7UB81ycscM/video.html
The Bolt trick is good I have it ! I will tell you for 9.00 the appearing canes & vanishing canes are top quality !! all colors are available ! I bought the canes years ago & still use them today . In my opinion they are excellent quality i use them at every show ! I have the black appearing cane also the white appearing cane . The vanishing cane I have is Black & white stripped love it !!! I remember years ago paying 150.00 at Tannen's Magic for an appearing cane . "These canes I highly recommend"
interesting ...
Hahah, awesome video... I love Chinese and far-eastern culture, so I bought a few cheapo card decks from Ali (including some rare Bicycle stuff). They're cheapo and don't really fan properly, but they literally only cost a dollar. Ali is a 'resource' which is there for us, it's totally up to the collector, as long as your standards are adjusted.
That is awesome!
I've been practicing card handling for almost a year. I have 100 decks or so. All plain 52's. A marked deck it seems, is a different level of control.
One last thing and I’ll shut up the big brass piece that fits the bolt isn’t needed to perform the effect. You only need to slide it on once to do something that makes the bolt spin then you remove it before you perform the trick and you don’t have to put it back on between performances.
We sold the atomic bolt at houdinis vegas..for 45$...the stiff rope for 15$ and that pencil thru quarters for 12$. .and ufo card thread and wax 25$ and was same quality as wish....
wow
Yea i got an appearing cane metal from wish sturdy works well,i get things in case so i can have extras plus i was just curious to see if they are just as good
:D
I bought the Final answer bill to lemon from them and it’s great. Very well made. Only $15
cool
The gimmicked coin pail I ordered should be here any day now. Also their duck bucket isn’t to bad either.
interesting
I bought The Nail Game from them. It’s extremely well made. Works really well.
interesting
There is a magic shop where I live that buys stuff from AE and then sells them for ten times the amount 😢
yikes
Well I did it. After 3 weeks of scouring every inch of this planet via the Internet searching for volume 1 and 2 of a certain title. I have determined they are completely and utterly sold out of existence. Sadly all of the legitimate magic stores that said it was "in stock" I found out days later that it was out of stock by getting my money refunded. This happened 5 times. By the last time I just didn't care anymore, I expected it. So these books as advertised and spoken about and of course by the fact that they are not to be found anywhere. Not even for some extreme dollar amount. Reinforces my feelings that I actually need these books for this magical presentation that I am composing. So I decided to risk a whole $5 and bought the pair on AliExpress. I'm not holding my breath. I'm mostly expecting to get a blank ream of paper with a picture of the book on the cover. But I can only hope that they are the actual books. Or facsimiles at best.
they might send you a link to a pdf
@@magicorthodoxy Good news! So the last magic dealer I tried to order the books from, just happened to run into the author at the Magic Castle the very same evening that he refunded my money. The author gave him his contact information to pass along to me, because he still had a few copies of his own and was willing to sell them to me. I just received them last week in the mail! Autographed by the author himself! Now if that is not Magic, I don't know what is! PS. I never did get those books from AliExpress or any indication that I will.
The misers dream pail is also of excellent quality. I’ve been using it in every show
COOL
i use shin lim 52 shades of red a lot when the deck wore out it had slightly yellow edges and i wouldn't pay 70 dollars again in penguin magic just to get one more trick deck... so i bought the deck on aliexpress the quality it was good but the colors were a bit different that was no problem to continue impressing my friends with the act of 52 sor. (I bought the original at penguin magic by the way.)
oh interesting
I bought
John T. Sheets - Quantum Bender 3.0 from Ali! Just the gimmick.
Ok
You can score some pretty amazing pricing on effects like you showed. I've ordered virtually all the ones you purchased except the rope and card decks but have to say most do a nice job overall for quick neat tricks. The silk thru cell is a killer visual for such a simple gimmick.
You get what you pay for ....
Lol love this. It was a review on a website, a review on several magic products and an impromptu comedy act. Entertaining and informative, what more can you ask for? 11/10 👏 👏
Glad you enjoyed it!
The ring should be a ok ring as well. I did stop buying magic from these places because I was also unsure if the creator was being scammed but I do buy a lot of flash paper and cotton from wish. The deck is also a stripper deck.
flash paper is a good idea - is it any good?
I just received the all metal strong box from them. It’s great quality.
interesting ...
what about known tricks like ambi ring 6:57
as it out of stock and just a ring, should i buy it?your recommendations?
all of these products are inferior and may or may NOT come with instructions - so it's a big risk. Personally, I think it's throwing your money away
@@magicorthodoxy okay,thank you
You asked whether Silk thru Phone is a marketed effect. Seo Magic is who came out with it first, and still sells it.
THANK YOU !!!
bicyclB deck 😂😂
Well much better then wish. the Keys were good. I've seen someone do that with a bottle, problem was that he had to crack the bottle after, so your with the wedding ring were much better..
you can get it back out with a pencil
"BICYCIB" cards are my favorite lol
:D
This is really valuable, because it seems awfully tempting sometimes!
ya truly get what you pay for
@@magicorthodoxy Well, whatever you did pay for these, you pretty much made me cry laughing, so I think you definitely got good value for your investment for your viewers there!
@@magicorthodoxySometimes you don't get what you pay for. I hate this company.
Bought a Chinese magicians set for cylinder and coins, great quality.
oh really?
I got a couple of good quality tricks from Ali Express 👍🏼
awesome
The silk tru phone one have different quality silk compared to tenyo's version..i own the tenyo's version, the silk more soft..
yea this one blows
A question: you can buy for a couple of euros (or dollars) full video sets (e.g., ACAAN by Dani DaOrtiz). Is it really legal? because the price at Penguin is much more expansive and it looks like illegal copies...
no - these are all illegal
bought from a not-cheapo site, Julio Montoro’s “Magic Kit” … one of worst, disappointing purchases I have made … keeps me from purchasing anything else with his name attached to it 🤷♂️
yea ....
Isn't the bottom line that most of these effects (and others sold by these companies) are knock-offs of the originals? For example, the nut off bolt (Micro Psychic) is by Kreis.and I believe it sold for over $100. No way an original would sell for $2.68.
agreed - everything on ALI EXPRESS and WISH is FAKE
when I ordered from ali express they went to the wrong address I am in Nevada and it ended up in Florida and Texas and I never got the items I should say .....will never order from them again for magic very bad ......they only gave me a refund for one idem but the other one took so long not to get here they wouldn't refund the money on the other one .....
yea, I'll never order from them again
I will never buy from AliExpress or Wish. Cheap magic is awful. It's not just the price but the fact that they are selling counterfeit versions of the real deal that is the problem. If you want a quality act please buy from the original producers. Those marked cards are terrible.
lol - I agree
Key in bottle like the coin
:D
Honestly.. when you do these types of videos, you should really pre-open and no5 do the “I’m surprised as you” so you are a bit more prepared with the items. Most off of Ali are rip offs of marketed effects. The folding key is a Joe Porper effect. Of course pencils they coin is is a Tenyo effect as you mentioned. All though I’m not sure if a marked deck can “technically” be trademarked. The idea of marking it like that was someone else’s. Again floating ting. Trademarked? Strebler and of course Mesika but have routines with this and I wouldn’t be surprised if Ali verbatim used their teaching. But I am pretty sure this video will encourage the purchasing of buying knock-offs as can be read buy some of the comments. Purchase of knocked off Quantum deck, purchase of Ult Bill in Lemon for $15 which is a $250 marketed effect. I am sure MANY of the items you saw on Ali before making your purchases you recognized as knock offs.
I am not upset nor is this a “flame” comment. We all want to save some $$. I currently have this paused at the rubic effect which I’m sure has to be someone’s else’s as well. Can you “trademark” a shell? Trademark laws don’t apply over seas so they can make / sell what they want. But you may have turned on hundreds of folks to buying knock offs, which is one of the reasons now top performers are not releasing their good material to the public.
I do enjoy watching your videos.
the video is to discourage people from buying this stuff
@@magicorthodoxy Of course I understand that. But when you say a trick is decent / good.. Then why would someone pay full price when they can get a "decent working" effect for 1/2 or less than 1/2 the money with Ali? Love the channel.. watch you quite often. Keep up the great work ! :) You post up so many great reviews I always wonder where you have time for your life? 😀
Yet another helpful video David. My pet hate isn't paying little and getting cheap-looking magic, rather it is paying quite a lot and getting cheap-looking magic. Thank Magic gods for your channel (and the other ones).
cheap magic sucks
I bought a vanishing sharpie from there once, (I lost it😢) but it was great for the price, was only like 10-12 bucks. There’s some good and bad stuff
WOW $10? that's a lot
@@magicorthodoxy Yeah but there normally $55 on magic sites
A lot of magic that are not marketed effects in Ali are not quite bad 😂❤.
:D
wow I just saw shin lim's dream act on ali express and it is about 2 dollars!?
what do you think this is?
a scam
The "Bicyclb" cards are marked AND STRIPPER DECK.
they sure are
They don’t seem that bad, especially for kids or someone who does magic once in awhile for just entertainment.
yea ... sort of
That was a really interesting review, David. I've made some excellent purchases from China including a very nice stage size super jumbo three card monte. I have the Micro Psychic Bolt and I've used it for a children's magic show and it got a "wow!" (If a nut did magically unwind itself from a bolt, Harry Potter style, I think most people would expect it to make that noise, so it's a nice little gadget to own if you want a quick pocket trick for an informal setting. N.B. I have handed out the nut and bolt for inspection before and after the effect without a problem.)
Is it true that a significant number of professional magic tricks (e.g. sold by well known Magic suppliers or eBay sellers) are actually manufactured in China or other Far Eastern countries? We just pay up to ten times more for them because they are in stock in our own country. I have had some very bad experiences with great looking effects sold at big name stores in the West that have turned out to be very expensive mistakes. These were all made in the East and sold in the West for high prices. One particular trick, costing around a hundred US dollars used electronics. The thing never worked and the big name store gave me a refund. Because I was really determined to build the thing into a good routine I had thought of, I bought another one a few months later. I thought I would give the creator of the trick another chance. That one didn't work either. Thanks to a very helpful UK shop, the creator corresponded with me personally and asked the big name distributor in the USA to provide me with a replacement. The big name distributor said they could not do so because none of the ones they had in their huge warehouse worked. I left it for a few months and bought one more. You can guess what happened! A very helpful gadget genius at a famous London Magic shop tried to get it working for me but it only did its thing once and then packed up for good.
If I want 'cheap and cheerful' I am happy to wait up to six weeks for it to arrive after a very long journey on an oriental ship. I'd rather take that risk than pay Western prices for the same dodgy quality stuff. To be fair, like you, I have sometimes been very pleasantly surprised with what I have received.
David, I would be interested to know where you bought your 'better quality' stiff rope. I want to add this to my kids show rope routine. How does it compare with the one in this video? On magic shop websites, they all look the same in the photos.
I got mine from penguin - www.tiktok.com/@magicorthodoxy/video/7017763451317554437?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&lang=en
Nothing that marvelous there but they're no money so why not? It's just a cheap bit of fun!
yup - magic should be fun
Hi David, thanks for the AliExpress Video. When buying from that type of website you just have to understand what you are getting for the most part is going to be cheap quality. You also need to read reviews to help guide you. I purchase some magic items myself which I received maybe 2 weeks and I was very surprised on how good they actually were. I don't buy items that I know are knockoffs. The items I received all had their instructional videos and were of decent quality and not found on other sites and I try to get them from just one seller so I am not waiting for multiple packages.
Yea, I would never encourage getting knock offs
Thanks for being our canary in the coal mine 🙂 YOU ROCK SIR 👍🏻
Any time!
Call The Police
I thought the rubicks Cube was cool. What was that called?
www.aliexpress.us/item/2251801722912499.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.22356e0aa0v9bj&algo_pvid=d41f2735-5bfb-44a2-8a36-7b8e7f9c9bf2&algo_exp_id=d41f2735-5bfb-44a2-8a36-7b8e7f9c9bf2-3&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2255129074473%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%215.0%214.5%21%21%21%21%21%4021031a5516661891547837777e4eb9%2155129074473%21sea&curPageLogUid=FISALypoZa6M
I ordered four items from AliExpress. I received two of them. I requested a refund on the two I didn't receive, and that was two months ago. I do not recommend ordering from this company.
were they magic tricks?
@@magicorthodoxy Yes, they were. At least it was only about $20. But still, I hate to be taken by a company. Live and learn.
Craig Pettys Quantum deck is being sold for 2.50$ .
Anyone who wants it You can get that too
is it the deck or a download? Some of those are ONLY the tutorials
@@magicorthodoxy you're right most of the time it's only the tutorials that are being sold but the quantum deck was legit. At least the found I found
check the spelling on the card box of that fake Bicycle deck 😮 😂
yeup !!! LOL
Thank you for this public service announcement.
sure thing
Was this murder on any other persons speakers? Watching on iPhone. Was getting high shrieks while he unpacked.
sirry
@@magicorthodoxy I did not know how to contact you directly. That Mark leverage video we talked about earlier where he does a party video is on sale right now for $14 at hocus-pocus. It's crazy. Hope you pick it up and maybe review it. Mark is a soft-spoken legend.
@@magicorthodoxy There is a great Terry Hebert DVD on sale right now too. For kids workers, it's priceless.
10:35 I think it's a stripper deck, I own one of those the sides should be straight if sorted out
yup it is
For the price you actually get decent stuff from Aliexpress
it was all right
That marked deck is also a stripper deck.
it sure is
The china bicycles:)
The handling of the deck is so bad cuz its a stripper deck! At least thats 1 of the best selling magic products on Ali (from several sellers) the marked stripper deck.
the handling is bad because the paper quality is terrible
So... what you are saying is... you want to get more tricks from Wish?
lol
Just helping out the algorithm. Thanks, Gef
lol
If it is a sansmind product I will gladly and gladly guy it from ali express or other magic shops from China for 90% off.
I will encourage anyone to do the same. I don't like Sansmind company 🤷♂️.
Also a lot of compaines just rip off customers for items that shouldn't be expensive at all. So we just turn to china for help lol.
You get what you pay for.
yup
🐇🐇🐇
🙂👌
Check those cards again because I think they are stripper as well.
Yup they are
india banned Chinese sites 😂
oh really