Expensive Card Repair - RTS RVON VOIP Device
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- čas přidán 2. 12. 2022
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Hi Alex,
When I work on such repair I would always put the cap or whatever component in the original position. In the past I had instances where the board didn't fit back into the housing because the moved component was in the way of the housing. So I learnt to always position the component in the original location if I didn't have the housing to make sure it's not in the way. Great video as always.
"When he's polite, I'm more polite and will go the extra mile for the customer". That's why I watch your channel Alex. You are a good man.
"when he's not polite, I hulk smash"
These cards are used typically in broadcast facilities which is my area of work for communicating between different areas. Typically called ‘talkback’ where the director calls out to video server team and calls ‘Roll A’ to play the video clip in port A. Or to communicate with an outside broadcast facility. We used RTS products for a number of years before changing vendor
I would have used copper tape and cut it to size then use UV masking paint......We all have different ways and this repair works also.Great channel Alex
You're too smart for this channel.
@@NorthridgeFix Nooooooooo Alex, we all work in different ways,this way works just as good as mine......We are both very smart lol
Cut to size... So you are a surgeon, I see...
@@trym2121 I've forgotten more then you will ever learn my boy!
@@smdmicrosoldering I would use a PTH CAP just for the wires lol
I learn from every video. Thank you for your dedication.
love watching a master at work
Great work Mr Alex
"you cannot test so do your best". deserves a poetic repair discount.
We're returning your card, it wasn't too hard.
Great work again !! Love your videos!
I watched your videos while eating because it's like watching a movie 🍿 ❤️❤️
Great work Alex. Another informative video.
This board reminds me of the Dialogic DM3-IPLink board from the late 1990’s. It was a PCI card that could do multi channel voice over IP. It cost well over US$10k and was the first board I ever programmed with an FPGA. Great video and repair; time to buy some fancy glue from Alex!
❤ Greeting from Belgium, Nice job Alex
Thanks for an interesting video Alex.
I would have to put please and thankyou on my ticket if i ever had one
Takes 2 seconds
Educating ! Thanks!
Great, really great work. Amazing. Thank your for that video, greets
GREAT WORK. WATCHING FROM KENYA
Would love a follow up video / comment on whether or not this fix worked.
you are always interesting to watch..
Greetings from Croatia!!
Good job mate 👍
Common work.
Simple job done.
Love from India
Great work Benzema!
Thank you for this good job....
you are a MAESTRO and a Shaikh-al-Mashaikh indeed! Bravo!
Such as cards are use in hotels and/or CRM systems that make the calls. Not easily accessible or seen often. Thanks Alex.
Not really mainly used in broadcasting facilities where I work in and used RTS products for many years before changing vendor
top notch work
Nice...i liked the idea of B 7000 glue
Very good job 👏 👍 👌
Lots of love from Karnataka, India ❤️
Boop... always magical work
Nice work
Nice job
that was a handy little job for you great
I have build habbit of blowing tiny particles away after grinding pen usage before Alex cleans with alcohol. 😅 Thank you very much for your great material and nice progress as CZcamsr over the years. Wondering has many of you though is there many old videos that have been no fix then and some later discoveries would have solved them also?
feels good to see him using B-7000 glue I always use it for cell phones
awesome job , i use the same glue, it perfect
nice fix
Exlent job sir 🙏
I think i used UV light on that B7000 glue to cure faster in the past. Not sure, but it can't hurt.
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Thanks for a great video as always. Just trying to understand why original pads could not be soldered/glued back in place, they looked good and large enough
gluing a pad to will not restore the trace unless you grind and solder over, but slight mistreatment will rip them back again so there's no point.
@@ugkeys6314 Well, he sometimes uses new pad strips from a template. So how is reusing original pad strips much different (as long as they secured well back to board)?
nice an simple
Nice ✌🏾
Love from India
Sería que uses los pines y soldar de nuevo con pasta uv para después volver a soldar con estaño
Thats interesting
I like the work and the commentary. Quick comment/question: should you have put kapton tape between the cap and the pcb traces to make sure, in the long run, no shorts will happen between the cap pads to the pcb traces? (I understand that the pcb traces are isolated with the solder mask, but just to be sure...)
It's the glue that's most definitely going between the cap and the traces. It's a very fluid glue. It will do the job perfectly. Try one when you feel like it. You will see what I'm talking about.
Came in for repair.
Hey @NorthridgeFix! How much do the pads differ depending on the factory process? Do you notice certain manufacturers having crappier pads than others? For example, If Sony used a better manufacturer for their motherboards, would it be harder to snap an HDMI connector and it's pads off a board? Love learning from you. I just wish I had the liquid cash to buy everything from your shop. :D
Either the circuit card (pre-populated) was manufactured incorrectly or with contaminated materials, or the soldering was done improperly when populating the card at the OEM. Usually though it is just handled too roughly. Why do think its video cards and consoles and gaming laptops that are constantly sent in? Teenagers and kids are rough with their things.
I'm so delicate when unplugging my screen from my thunderbolt port, I pull with just enough force so it pops out on its own. Never yank, and never at an angle.
Sony boards will be top quality as far as consumer PCBs are concerned, sure they could over-engineer the ports to have better strain relief but ultimately if you are careful they will last a long time.
@@ForgottenLore you know the manufacturer cares when they eliminate the failure mode where a knob or switch can damage the motherboard
That depends on the thickness of the copper layer of the PCB before it's etched. The "pads" are just formed after it is etched.
I have heard him state before that there are certain devices that he is extra delicate on as he know they in particular have weak pads that tear off easy.
Nice work, how I'd have fixed it too. Might have replaced the caps too but I also don't have a million things at any time come through so that's understandable.
Absence of cap card should work.
Cap after some regular or pi filter or dcdc.
There are some de cupping cap also should remain
This card, if you can find it, is over US$2000. A new RVON+ 16-channel card is $8000.
Alex haces magia, aprendo trucos nuevos en cada video. Gracias
nice Vedio ☮️👍
Better than factory Alex
Thanks Guy, i need a regulator his référence is Lr-x.
Did you ohm out the cap before you replaced it back on the board, I did not see that.
maybe u have to using PCB UV curing paste for ripped pcb track like that sir...
I wonder if copper foil as used in stained glass might help make a new trace. It has a self adhesive on on side and comes in various widths.
He sells packs of traces and pads just like that
@@pcb1962 yes but sometimes you need something heftier. Like the bit of wire he used here.
Hi Northridge repair ! I wanted to ask a question. As my laptop screen is nasty I wanted to replace the panel and know pretty much what to do and how. But i am just wondering why is the reason we disconnect the battery while we replace the panel ? Is there a reason why replacing the panel shorts anything while the board has ambient juice from the battery while it is fully powered off and unplugged from power supply ?
Would just like to know from a quite experienced from the looks of it technician. Thanks much.
The screen connector might do electrical damage when being removed or put back as some pins can touch other pin
If the battery is still connected, there might be some power through that connector. So dont try to save time when a single short will cost def way more arse
The camera is back in position when i was just getting to enjoy new view
Can I ask you Alex, Is it possible to Superglue the Capacitor pads back onto the PCB and then solder them back to the tracks? It would save all that grinding and extra wire. Just a thought.
Super glue does not like heat. The pads will fall off when solder is applied. The only thing I would have done differently is perhaps use solder wick instead of wire as it stays flat.
You would need to use epoxy glue as superglue breaks down when you resolder the pad.
good question
How did you learn all of your knowledge about electronics
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Question, why not use hot glue in this instance? Heat?
that cap was glued also
Could you please also tell us the invoice value you charge your customers to give us an idea please
I'm curious to know how this damage happened, given these types of card usually live inside a larger chassis and are rarely touched/handled beyond the initial installation and commissioning phase.
Customer may have drop the card during maintenance.
Especially those kind of equipment used in enterprises runs for a very long time, some quality issues that you may never see with consumer hardware can occur after 5+ years.
Needless to say enterprise vendors aren't much help in this case, so more business for NorthridgeFix I guess.
The note from the customer said "knocked up". Most likely by pulling the board out or inserting it in the enclosure
@@mihabolil4o sometimes getting knocked up happens when they do not pull out in time
@@jasonwillis4819 I see what you did
Fume extractor on
How hard is that glue to remove if one needs to replace cap?
Thank you for your videos!
Heating that glue up to 70-80 degrees makes it weak. Or dissolving with isopropyl alcohol. At least thats how you open smartphone screens...
Not hard. It's a very fluid glue , a very elastic one and very easy to remove if you have the proper tools.
Alcohol is very effective for separating it from PCB, same process as removing hot glue. Gets underneath the adhesive and it separates cleanly.
It softens with heat, easily removeable
Greetings. The other commentators have supplied the answers. I was thinking that you would simply apply heat. I am now learning that the application of alcohol to the glue would aid the process of removal as well. Thanks guys.
the technician of technicians
NorthSolidRidgeFix 😉
Is that a flexible glue?
Will that glue like melt? When board is in use? Just curious.
Yes it will melt as soon as the device is turned on.
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Naaa.....once it hardens...u r good to go
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I have two boards I need repaired. Can you help me please?
Intercom card repair
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Why b7000 instead of hotglue? There is a reason?
b7000 is cold, hotglue is hot , sometimes very hot and probably can affect the capacitor.
I was expecting him to use a UV curing glue.
You forgot to test the cap before you installed it
I thought you'd be grabbing a pair of pad strips
Too small for this job.
lol glued the cap with glue that is pain in the ass to remove if the cap goes bad.
also glued over some traces which will be ripped off the board if cap needs replacement.
extra mile lol.
B7000 is not permanent and easy to remove. Obviously u never heard of or used this glue before.
HI, very interesting, but I have two questions: if the cap is for voice, can't the wire replacement for the pad induce some interference (i.e. like an antenna)? when cutting the wire directly on the board isn't there a risk of cutting the two traces on the board?
U need to know what you're doing and you'll be fine.
Mr. Alex's surgical touch is from experience in working and repairing so many devices. As he said, "Knowing" is what it's all about along with his vast experience in the field. Antenna's on a board are specifically placed and I don't see where the extra wire soldered to the base of the cap is a problem. The cap itself would have to be an interference as it is made of aluminum with much more surface area exposed. Anyway, a capacitor is a passive component and cannot amplify the signal.
@@strawman9410 My guess is; the cap is for power supply. It’s not a part of a filter. (It’s too large). The wire is still short, in comparison to the wavelength of audio. I would assume any conversation of analog/digital is done close to the connectors.
@@strawman9410 100 uF bulk electrolytic caps on a telecom/intercom/VOIP board like that are likely being used for power rail filtering, just like they would be on most types of boards. You can also tell by the width of the traces used going to the foot print of the capacitor, this is a high current power trace, not a signal trace. So no, a wire a few mm longer there would have no effect on the circuits.
I'm worried seeing you to cut the wires using a blade against the board. I'm sure you'll care, attention to not to damage the traces. Great job.
Greetings. I too was concerned about that as well. However, I observed that the traces were not immediately beneath the point where the cut was made. Therefore, with close attention the incision could have been, and was carried, out without damaging the surrounding traces. I was also concerned about the negative terminal until the glue was applied. It did not appear sturdy enough for me. The glue removed my fears.
it's funny that i put the subtitles in CZcams to understand the english speech, and when you say "i put the meter in diode mode" it writes "in diet mode" , in fact that meter appears a bit fat!
3:58 it's not as easy as it seems.
Расскажите человеку что существуют ремонтные площадки, и стандарт ipc в котором описаны методы ремонта
First like and First comment 👍✌️
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Is it possible people are secretly challenging one-another to send in items which get you to say "solid" as early as possible?
no it's not fixing operation 😘
1:20 nuka köllär cäp pölis v$v
Customer seems to be a riddler
Eso en mi pais es una mierda de trabajo
just out of curiosity, why not glue new pads strips and seat capacitor as it should ?
Curiosity killed the cat or let's just say there are 101 ways to skin a cat. Cat is screwed either way.
bruh aint no way really?
I would have put glue on the entire board... no it's a joke..
Hi Alex. I've been watching your channel for a while now as I really enjoy your repairs. I've been trained and qualified in electronics since 1979 and I understand and follow most of what you are doing.
However. Please, please, please - Will you please use the proper terms for components. They are capacitors, not caps. (I once worked for a company who used to refer to them a compositors).
Anyway, keep up the great work. I look forward to watching more of your work.
give him 10% off
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