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STRADIVARIUS VS GUARNERIUS!! sound comparison, Cellist dream!!!
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2018
- Trying out the Lord Aylesford 1696 stradivarius on loan to me by the Nippon Music Foundation and the Joseph Filius Guarnerius 1694 from Beares in London.
The sound of the strad is more colorful in the mid and high tones. But can we speak about the deepness of the lower tones of the Guarnerius ? I loved it
My thoughts exactly!
I would say the same, but I believe it is necessary to hear in person in the same room to realize all nuances of the sound.
FACTS!!!
I heard a real guarneri once in my old life. Sorta ruined everything for me. The only thing that sounded like that was a viola a mentor had which was a modern viola and it was amazing and it had an amazing player so that combos always good. But aaaaaaah! Guarneri
@@Kimpie4HC Me too. I actually preferred the Guarneri. I would tho. I have a Guarneri copy made by a French luthier, Tournier. It is a smaller cello with a slender waist. Makes a beautiful sound and easy to play.
My god. The beauty of the low registers on the Guarnerius...
as expected. the guarneri sounds darker and the stradivari sounds brighter. same as their violin counterparts.
Abram Patrick Abesamis you are talking out of your bottom - it is not a del Gesu
huh? I'm sorry, I got confused. can you tell me about it? please?
@@gabebabe1 Are you talking out of your bottom? Because you're being an asshole
Eh.... I think the Strad is just the superior instrument here.
The Guarneri is just as bright or brighter than the strad... its just that the bright overtones aren't as harmonic and beautiful.
That reminds me of an old joke. I am the proud owner of a Stradivarius and a Picasso. The trouble is that Stradivarius couldn't paint and Picasso made terrible violins!
XD
That is a joke from every angle you hear it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😱🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's very funny. I laughed out loud.
You are a Happy Cellist, and if may say, also a Great Cellist! Thank you for sharing these two wonderful instruments with us all.
Its like comparing sun and the moon, they are both beautiful but shine in different ways.
It must be weird, but I really prefer the Guarnieri, even in the higher notes.
You're not weird. I like the Guarnieri quite a lot more. I think we naturally go for the cello we think would personally suit us best.
I think Stradivarius would be better suited to soloist work with orchestras due to the sheer resonance/volume of the sound, which doesn’t come across great on microphone. Whereas the Guarneri might be better in a quartet or smaller scale solo recital, just like people, different voices.
Yeah that makes sense but both are BEAUTIFUL.
I was just thinking the same thing. The Strad is almost too bright. I guess I prefer the warm, rich tones and almost melancholy feel. The Strad is too joyful. A happy little violin can be spritely, but I prefer a dark cello.
I actually prefer the Guarneri. I prefer the size of it compared to the Strad and thought it had a nicer sound (even if one had to sacrifice brightness in the higher register). Though as others pointed out, the set ups are different (bridge, tailpiece, etc.). Both are gorgeous either way.
prob the best cello comparison ever on you tube, thanks
The Strad is fitted with Belgium bridge/synthetic tailpiece, the Guarneri with French bridge/boxwood tailpiece. They are set up for different playing conditions so it's rather apple vs. orange here. Nevertheless, interesting comparison!
That is very astute of you to notice from the video. Thank you! I used to play my Joseph Filius cello with a French bridge and later switched to a Belgium bridge. It must have increased the sheer volume of sound coming out of the cello by 20% -- with no loss to the quality of sound and colors -- just different colors! As you said, set up in everything! NP
yea exactly ! is it just me or, the tailpiece on the strad look... cheap ? i mean in comparison of the instrument itself ? But i may be wrong
I wonder if the wood bridge would mellow the strad a little?
@@harkmay It is a wooden bridge. The tailpiece is synthetic. The Belgian bridge fitted on the cello has less mass at the top and longer "legs." It will make the instrument brighter and louder than a French bridge. The Lord Aylesford is what Starker made many of his recordings with, including the famous recording of the Bach Suites. That was before the upper bout was cut down, and Starker played with the bridge high between the F holes to keep the scale length close to standard.
Incidentally, I did have a conversation with Starker about the Aylesford around 2007. He said that the Aylesford had the best C string of any cello he ever played. You can see why!
@@nealeperl9528 Amazing!
Something about the Strad just feels... human. It's tone is so emotive. I love the Guarnerius too though.
The strad sounds more holographic. I can imagine the sound coming from nowhere.
I definitely love Guarnerius sound 😍 so deep so intense.....love it!!!!!
The Guarnerius sings to you like a lover from across the pillow. The Strad sings to you from across the room. I'm going with pillow....
To me, the depth and parameter of sound made by the strad was broader than the Guarneri. The Guarneri is beautiful, but I didn't hear as varying of a range from it as from the strad. Also the bow "popping" sound in the string at the beginning of the dvorak was insane on the stead!
Love your vibrato!!! So powerful.
A bit too much for me. But otherwise great playing.
If you have two cellos, you can give me one of them 😂
Matteo yeah I've got an old Yamaha I can loan you if you want! It's pretty nice! The varnish is super shinny! Let me know!
* * well I was more looking for the Strad or the Garnerius 😂
Matteo I'm telling you man this Yamaha is NICE! pretty sure it could out play the guarnerius any day of the week! 😂
* * I'm not so sure 😂😂
Matteo it's the person, not the instrument! You'll learn when you're older 😉
Strads have such a unique “snarl” to their tone. Really does it for me.
Amazing talent. Thank you for sharing.
Like two fine wines. They're different but both gorgeous. You lucky man
Que honor!!!
Te lo mereces
I'd like to hear the Guarneri in Classical music, where such huge resonance that the Stradivari has is fittingly avoided. Haydn, Boccherini, Abel, and even the Schumann, all fit better in the rounder sound of the Guarneri.
The Strad is wondrous in telling the Dvořák saga. I think it'd do the Shostakovich and Prokofiev concerti very well; the Kodaly and Hindemith sonatas as well. The bigger, throatier sound is more luscious for such later music.
What about the Bach suites? I'd love to hear this cellist do ALL the suites on BOTH cellos, because I cannot imagine which would sound more amazing, and also because I'm greedy like that 😁
So Interesting to hear both of these Cellos side-by-side. I give The edge to the Strad on the opening of the Dvorak,certainly more power. I felt the Guanari had the edge in the lower register. Aren’t you a bit nervous having some 15 million dollars/ Euros in your apartment?
Jim Kohn I doubt they are worth that much combined. Probably closer to 6 million but remember only one Stradivarius cello has ever been stolen
J. A. E. My teachers’s (Bernard Greenhouse) strad sold for $7 Million a few years ago.
They sound like heaven 😍🤤
I'd be really interested to hear the cellos both with similar bridges! Looks like the Guarneri is fitted with a French bridge, whereas the Strad has a Belgian. Beautiful cellos though...
Pablo que experiencia incribleee me encantó el video que suerte te lo mereces 😀
You are a Strad man. Thanks for a great video. Beautiful all around!
Que maravilla que tengas posibilidad de tocar esos incomparables instrumentos! Pero en todo esto hay una realidad que no se puede negar. Toques el cello que toques lo haces extremadamente de maravilla!!! ❤
That Strad is truly magnificent. You got the pick of the litter Pablo!
If I could choose I would take the Guarnerius one because of its timbre. The Strad sounds louder and extremely beautiful too but the other is potentially better. Thats my humble personal opinion.
The best of this video is the cellist playing. Congrats!
Microphone wasn't at the same angle when they played the lower register so I don't know how much deeper that Guarnerius is. The difference on the A string is pretty big though. Guarneri has that darker more transparent sound. It's probably worse as a concert instrument but wow it has a eerie quality to it.
Gracias por publicar un video como éste y mostrar una energía impresionante en la ejecución. Sigue así. Adelante.
Hard to tell from the recording as so many variables are at play, but I was a little surprised that the strad seemed to have a quite significantly more powerful sound/projection, at least in the middle and higher frequency range. In the lower registry the Guarneri seems to have a more punch and a slightly less "muddy" tone. Both sound fantastic, but not until handled by a fantastic cellist, like mr. Ferrández.
I love both cellos! Those sound awesome.
Thanks a lot for sharing this comparison. It's fantastic sound. Would be interesting to hear this strad compared to a one from 1715 (or similar). Next time?
They are both beautiful instruments, I loved the smoothness from the Strad, but you can definitely hear the difference when you wear headphones for the video. Beautiful.
The sonority and projection of the Strad is incomparable, particularly in the upper register. capable of cutting through any orchestra and making itself known; on the other hand the personality of the Guarnarius is far more intimate and personal compared to the Strad which comes off as more cold and aloof. Personally I relate more to the Guarnarius, which is no surprise since I also relate most strongly to Queyras' Cappa cello which also has an exceptionally beautiful personality.
Precioso video!!
As a seventy-year old cellist whose idol, when I was young, was Janos Starker (who performed on the Lord Aylesford), I had been wondering where that cello was nowadays.This video answers my question.
David Steven Tabbat you are old as fuck, I think you must play cello really well
Fuck never gets old, Javier.
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Me encantan! Tremendos instrumentos! El Strad tiene un sonido mas brillante, mientras que el Guarnerius un sonido mas profundo, como mas de su interior.. Excelente Pablo!
Very different! The Strad sounds utterly beautiful. I’m tempted to think I’m just saying that because it’s a Strad, but I tried a blind test and yep - it’s my clear favourite.
Great cellists through history: Boccherini, Casals, Popper, du Pre, Maisky, Starker, Rostropovich, Ma, Ferrandez. Question for the newest master: thoughts on composing your own sonata or etudes?
Yoyo Ma should not be on this list. Highly subjective, I know, but his publicity is overmuch. And he is a most decent person; kind, apparently generous, and down to earth. But I have never felt his Bach as I do the others; perhaps he has not felt emotional pain as have the others. Maybe he is too happy, or he incorporates that into his persona as if that is essential. Sorry!
@@JXS63J Don't be sorry. Totally fair assessment!
@@JXS63J I love Yo Yo too, but I have often felt that he plays most everything with the same saccharine tone. Starker recorded the Bach Suites on the Lord Aylesford. To me that is the benchmark recording.
@@davidemberson8607 I love Starker's playing. He's deep and no nonsense. He's not a showman, he problems deep into the work.
The Strad has a certain sweetness / richness in the low mids. Both are exceptional examples.
Love the song Stradivarius. 😍😍😍
Loved the editing from 4:44 onwards x'D
Recording of the variations in the background sounded great Pablo!
Yes one is brighter and the other is bolder.
I have an early 20th century Stradivarious "model" from Germany and it is bright and resonates.
More than other cellos I have tried.
Laying those on the couch like that is sinful. Lmao 😂
I only pray the ambient temperature and humidity is perfect. Lol 😂
Jokes aside Well played and thanks for the inspiration sir.
Love the darker toned one. Kudos.
Consider doing a track with both at the same time with two different parts. The bright tone on the other cuts right through!
Thanks for the video!
The strad is great with the higher pitches and is good with intense music. The guaneri is good with the deep pitches and is good with emotional music. I also think the strad is a soloist cello and the guaneri blends in with an orchestra. If I had to choose, I would choose strad. Guaneri is a cool name tho. 😁
The low register is way more present and beautiful in the Guarnerius from my point of view.
Can’t really tell which one i like better cuz it’s with microphone 😭 both sound freaking amazing...
Pablo
Guarnerius used Bridge France
Strad used Bridge belga
Tailpiece strad and guarnerius not the same.
TKS
nice sound of both
Well spotted. And Thanks for pointing this out. The tonal differences also seem to agree with the two bridge types it appears.
Stradivarius is the best 😍❤️
Strad richer, more vibrant, more bite; has an extra dimension to the tone. The lower register growl in that first piece of the Dvorak (3:13) was blowing the microphone! Guarneri a somewhat polite sound by comparison, possibly more refined, certainly more restrained. I can see them being suited to very different works.
Enhorabuena, Pablo. ¿Alguien puede decir qué música para chelo y orquesta suena de fondo durante una parte del vídeo? Gracias.
"I'm shopping for a used car and I'm trying to decide between a '63 Ferrari 250 GTO and a '62 Aston Martin DB4 Zagato. I'll have to test drive them both at the same time." Said this guy the next afternoon.
😆😆 I wish!
¡No puedo creer que tengas dos chelos tan increíbles en una misma habitación! Yo estaría hiperventilando.
En unos días tocarás en el Palau de la música, ¡espero poder ir!
The Guarneri to my ears is darker, and more rich sounding, the Stad brighter and more focused. what strings did you use? You can't tell the power by a video, so Ill leave that open to interpretation.
Strad is like a young lady, Guarneri is like a mature woman, both sounds are beautiful. However, I like the sound of Maestro Pablo Ferrández's best. His tone is excellent.
The strad has a much more open sound than the Guarneri, but the look of the Guarneri is incredible
After listening to the comparison over and over with headphones... I'm surprised I like the Guarneri more than the Strad. To me, the sound from the Guarneri in this small enclosed space is much crisper. The Strad is just a bit too loud and therefore messy sounding in this space. I think it would sound AMAZING in a concert hall though.
I love the sound of the cello. If you lived near me I'd make sure you practiced every day with your doors and windows open so I could hear. ;)
I'd love to hear the Guarneri with a Belgian bridge - would give it much more punch on the upper register.
All I can say is, "Wow!"
The strad outperformed the other in every category
Dope kicks btw
The strad sounds better in my ears..... But I think the other one sound better in the lower ranges
Can someone can tell me the name of the music at the opening M.Fernandez is playing ?
I think the Guarneri cello has a bit a warmer Sound than the Stradvari, the Stradivari has a clear direct sound .
As expected. the Guarneri sounds darker and the Stradivari sounds brighter. same as their violin counterparts
My favorite is the Guarnieri.
Guarneri has a gorgeous lower register. The strad has a more brilliant upper voice.
Lucky fellow!
Hi Iam looking at a strand on eBay it's a copy of the original Strat and listing for 685 coming from China may I have your opinion
Such cello porn.. I love both. I'd pick the guarneri, strad's upper register sounds too raw and harsh to me, guarneri's is just hauntigly beautiful, also in mid register it sounds so mellow, and at bass register it's just epic, I think it objectively beats the strad in the bass register by a mile.
I agree
Charming myth. The sound of the instruments would be unrecognizable to Stradivarius and Guarnerius - their instruments have all been 'modernised': longer neck at increased angle, larger bass bar, metal strings, modern bridge, and played with a modern Tourte bow - the sound therefore is completely different compared to the original set-up, lower pitch, and gut strings etc.
Who can build a cello that has the depth of the Guanerius and the middle register like the heights of the Stradivarius?
El registro bajo del Guarneri es tan profundo y cálido, sin duda por ese lado se lleva mi 10, aunque los agudos del Guarneri no me gustan tanto como los del Stradivari. Por otro lado, los agudos del Stradivari son tan vivos, aunque sus graves me resultan un poco agresivos
The strad projects better I think but the guarneri has such a beautiful rich tone
I'd say their about equal in the mid register, but lower goes to Guar and higher goes to the Strad.
What piece(es) were playing in the background?
The Guarnerius has a cute muffled sound. The Strad's is more transparent. I'm no musician, but I've loved cello music for 25 yrs. It's how I can best describe the difference.
If I were to choose I would prefer the openness of the Strad particularly for the Dvorak example you gave. But then.......
what piece is playing in the background?
Over CZcams, the sound of your computer/sound reproduction system may influence your preferences - on mine, and to my tastes, if I had to choose between the two cellos (mmm WHAT a CHOICE!!) I'd go for the Strad by quite a margin. As perhaps a less important consideration, are the looks and there too, the Strad wins IMHO.
Hi, how do you avoid wolf notes? My cello is terrible!!
Incluso con un micro normal y en el salón de estar se nota claramente que el strad tiene más potencia.
I take the Strad, - Thanks, k, bye ;-)
Exciting!!!
The strad is the one you have playd in Santander 3 years ago the Rococo on the Encuentro? ;)
The Stradivarius is far superior to my ears. It sounds like the frequencies smoothly and uniformly widen and open up in both directions, as the string begins to vibrate - almost like the 'spread' of a good 50s-60s Zildjian A ride cymbal.
Guarneri is just the very best
Can you explain why a Stradivarius is worth $16M USD (or at least several millions)? What makes it worth that much money vs a Jay Haide modern cello? Just the type of Italian spruce used and obviously it's age?
Also, how do you feel about putting modern day made strings on a centuries old "masterpiece cello"? Obviously an 18th century cello won't still have extra strings from the 18th century. :)
Supply and demand and their magnificent sound! There are only about sixty Strad cellos in existence. Of those, only about twenty are of the "B form." (The Aylesford is a much older instrument and is not one of those.)
What’s the piece that he plays on the low registers?
Ambas son inmensamente bellas
Stradivarius has more sadness.. I love it!
In my opinion, the strad cello has a brighter sound, and the guarnerius has a warmer sound.
Senti o Violoncelo Guarnieri com as notas mais legíveis e com com mais suave
I like the Strad
I love darcker guarnarius
But even in low or medium and high fréquencies sradi more complex thé ritcher
The strad is way better, brighter texture and more control in the bass, less coloration. The med has more depth and more open sounding (more holographic). Strads are really expensive and (apparently) Stradivarius had a secret that nobody to this day knows what it was. certainly amazing holographic sound like really haunting. The med in the other cello had a more boxed in tone to it and that's what kills the holographic illusion (it's all in the tone characteristics). Stradivarius knew how to get that holographic haunting sound way before PS Audio, or KEF did. But my home hacked speakers are more holographic cos I made a few unusual acoustic hacks with my speakers. And I tried hard to get the tone right for that holographic haunting sound (see my ch if you are interested).
Obviously Strad model is brighter and more powerful but Guarneri model is deeper that may also because of different bridges equipped. With Belgian model bridge produces brighter sound.