Brazilian Pilot WON'T FOLLOW Instructions | Creates CHAOS! 😨

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Komentáře • 606

  • @andrewtoop4764
    @andrewtoop4764 Před měsícem +107

    He caused so much CHAOS! no one noticed CAP13 ditching in the atlantic at 10:38 🥴

  • @ireumiobseum
    @ireumiobseum Před měsícem +269

    This sounds like a typical VATSIM session to be honest 😂

    • @derek_da_pilot6412
      @derek_da_pilot6412 Před měsícem +8

      Exactly. I was having PTSD and relating to the voice and tone with the controllers lol.

    • @tjfSIM
      @tjfSIM Před měsícem +2

      It does! 😂

    • @user-kb8gh5jv9t
      @user-kb8gh5jv9t Před měsícem +2

      @@ireumiobseum Wake-up call… Reality (done by professionals (or one should expect)) vs. Simulation (done by amateurs) = NOT the same🤦‍♀️

    • @Jump-2-the-moon
      @Jump-2-the-moon Před měsícem +3

      Air Force ground pound 69 here

    • @hmdashknani
      @hmdashknani Před měsícem

      😂😂

  • @niklasnelson
    @niklasnelson Před měsícem +56

    "so long..." - "See ya" what a beautiful ending of this Story lol

  • @smark1180
    @smark1180 Před měsícem +257

    ATC: Say speed!
    Pliot: SPEED! S-P-E-E-D!

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +12

      S-P-E-E-D 😆😆

    • @psneves
      @psneves Před měsícem +5

      🤣

    • @russofris
      @russofris Před měsícem +20

      Reminds me of the old joke:
      Captain: Mayday, this is the UK Freighter Lancelot, we've lost power and are taking on water. We are sinking!
      German coastguard with heavy accent: Hallo! Vat are you sinking about?

    • @jonasbaine3538
      @jonasbaine3538 Před měsícem +5

      Don’t call me surely… 😂

    • @mightyV444
      @mightyV444 Před měsícem +4

      Yeah, I was half-expecting that reply myself 😅

  • @rozanoff6175
    @rozanoff6175 Před měsícem +150

    The pilot’s voice sounds like he’s missing oxygen or had some alcohol 😂

    • @lucasknevitz
      @lucasknevitz Před 29 dny +10

      The communication in aviation is hard enough, just imagine doing that in another language

    • @bobbastian760
      @bobbastian760 Před 29 dny

      weed

    • @rozanoff6175
      @rozanoff6175 Před 29 dny

      @@bobbastian760 .
      Maybe it’s true 🫢 !?

    • @zachthomas7810
      @zachthomas7810 Před 28 dny +11

      @@lucasknevitzyeah maybe if it’s not what you do for a living, but if you’re a pilot you have to do better than this. Much better

    • @lucasknevitz
      @lucasknevitz Před 28 dny +8

      @@zachthomas7810 Agreed, but yet everyone had their start someday, maybe that's his first time on international flight, I mean, you can have 20 years of experience in your own country but international aviation is a whole new world

  • @JuanLaya-j6d
    @JuanLaya-j6d Před 17 dny +39

    I have to say that the controllers were actually very professional. They understood the problem and dealt with it the best they could. No shouting no screaming no more pressure. Excellent job Boston controllers.

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr Před měsícem +137

    English comprehension for the first dude was hovering somewhere around 50% of what it should be. When I hear “turn right five degrees”, I chuckled because I knew there was no way that was getting read back correctly or followed immediately.

    • @ra2186
      @ra2186 Před měsícem +18

      I don't see why the controller didn't just give a heading to begin with. Seems like he introduced the confusion in that bit.

    • @kablamoman
      @kablamoman Před měsícem +14

      @@ra2186they don’t know what your heading actually is due to winds aloft - all they see is your track over the ground. For small adjustments like that, it’s often easier for them to get the result they want by telling you 5 or 10 degrees left or right.
      Often a pilot will follow that up with a readback that clears up any ambiguity, eg. “5 degrees right, new heading 040, fox bravo lima”

    • @georgybest5135
      @georgybest5135 Před měsícem +4

      Blame it on brazils educational system that claims everyones is proficient in portuguese - and on private schools - english too. Freaking stablishment my dude

    • @idlewild13l
      @idlewild13l Před měsícem

      I laughed, like buddy how did you not see that coming

    • @quackgarage9551
      @quackgarage9551 Před měsícem +2

      @@ra2186 My thoughts exactly. The ATC was pretty much pouring a lot of gasoline into this.

  • @heatheridoni1213
    @heatheridoni1213 Před měsícem +54

    I like that he tried the ole Jedi Mind Trick when he was hit with the possible pilot deviation

    • @asdasdasdasd8970
      @asdasdasdasd8970 Před měsícem +4

      "You don't want to give me a number"
      "You want to go home and rethink your life"

  • @axoman3041
    @axoman3041 Před 28 dny +14

    Thank God I am piloting my car without the need of ATC comms. I can turn any headings I want while maintaining an altitude of 0 feet above the ground

    • @trainsimulatordriver
      @trainsimulatordriver Před dnem

      I hate to tell you that if you're at zero feet then you're probably getting wet 🤣

  • @Mxaviair
    @Mxaviair Před 26 dny +15

    It doesn't seem like English comprehension was the issue, he sounds like he's awake for 48 hours straight. And it looks like he fell asleep mid first approach and came back with a totally reenergized tone after waking up, at least momentarily.

    • @IgorAnselm
      @IgorAnselm Před 26 dny +5

      Probably another pilot but yeah, the first one sounded impaired although he understood English.

  • @gabrielvasin7880
    @gabrielvasin7880 Před měsícem +73

    this is why we need to make sure every pilot is perfectly fluent in english

    • @leonardodemilio6703
      @leonardodemilio6703 Před 26 dny +35

      Would like to see English speakers be fluent in other languages. And you are not able at all.

    • @gabrielvasin7880
      @gabrielvasin7880 Před 25 dny +12

      @@leonardodemilio6703 when speaking english is a requirement to fly airplanes and you’re flying in an english speaking country while not being fluent in that language then you’re a hazard to everyone’s safety

    • @Postelnikov
      @Postelnikov Před 24 dny +6

      @@leonardodemilio6703they are not. But we need international language for aviation. And it is English. And I would like to say that most of US pilots need to learn ICAO standards for communication. What I hear from most of pilots and some of ATC - this is not an ICAO standards.

    • @kwinsley1
      @kwinsley1 Před 23 dny

      Bull sh*t

    • @kwinsley1
      @kwinsley1 Před 23 dny +3

      @@gabrielvasin7880and if you can’t speak Spanish , France , Portuguese , and you’re in them airspace??? What can you tell me……

  • @adilsonnogueira6468
    @adilsonnogueira6468 Před 29 dny +385

    Meanwhile two very experienced USA pilots disconeced their transponder and did not follow the rules while flying over Brazil and hit and Boing 737 killing all 154 passengers….😢

    • @Mauronog1
      @Mauronog1 Před 28 dny +32

      In fact, they never turned it on before they hit and tore the Boeing's wing out.

    • @damiandiesel1
      @damiandiesel1 Před 28 dny +48

      What does that have to do with this?

    • @7marinamarinaki
      @7marinamarinaki Před 28 dny +72

      @@damiandiesel1 nothing, he's probably Brasilian that got offended.

    • @thiagogarde
      @thiagogarde Před 27 dny +57

      @@damiandiesel1 pois é ! não tem nada a ver! ai foi só um pequeno mal entendido com o ATC.. já os americanos não faziam a menor idéia de como pilotar um avião da embraer (avião brasileiro) .. não sabiam algo básico como: onde ficava o transponder.. (que é o mesmo que um motorista não saber onde liga o farol do carro)

    • @user-tm8jt2py3d
      @user-tm8jt2py3d Před 26 dny +39

      @@thiagogarde again, what is the point you are making? this Brazillian pilot should be excused for his incompetence because US pilots also fucked up? Why are you guys so insecure?

  • @martinzinho6455
    @martinzinho6455 Před měsícem +32

    Me giving my dad turn by turn Mapquest directions in the 90s

  • @Antonio-lt1sp
    @Antonio-lt1sp Před měsícem +17

    I think the pilot was a bit overwhelmed with the english communications. He is not so bad at listening (he repeated many times the correct FL), but he definitely was bad at following the instructions. Good thing that the ATC was very assertive, and dealt with this traffic properly.

    • @tachacastilho
      @tachacastilho Před měsícem +7

      or a bit too slow maybe 🤔 sounded like he was experiencing hypoxia or something 😟

    • @diegotr1903
      @diegotr1903 Před 20 dny

      Yeah that what seemed to me.
      He is not used to the communication and vocabulary

  • @alk672
    @alk672 Před 11 dny +3

    I wouldn't want to talk on the radio either if my callsign was PSFBL, what a mouthful every time.

  • @larsfreeburg1535
    @larsfreeburg1535 Před měsícem +55

    This guy paid someone to take his language proficiency test lmao

    • @winderdias9098
      @winderdias9098 Před 3 dny

      the proficiency test doesn't always mean that you can understand everything. Only those who speak more than one language understand this difficulty.

    • @anotherkatiek
      @anotherkatiek Před 9 hodinami

      @@winderdias9098 No one said you had to understand perfectly. You just can't be incompetent.

  • @benbunch4159
    @benbunch4159 Před měsícem +49

    Classic ATC drinking game one…things go from bad to worse and then you get a different voice on the radio.

    • @musicalaviator
      @musicalaviator Před měsícem +2

      sounds like the pilots were playing a drinking game before they got on the radio.

    • @crankatorium
      @crankatorium Před 26 dny +4

      @@musicalaviator 2nd guy seemed perfectly sober and alert to me.

  • @DTowns19
    @DTowns19 Před měsícem +12

    This is better than trying to find the next best thriller on Netflix. Stressed TF OOUT.

    • @johnnymark8888
      @johnnymark8888 Před 25 dny

      lol, you got that right. breathed a sigh of relief when the pilot finally found the runway!

  • @davidpage1028
    @davidpage1028 Před měsícem +72

    Sounds like two different pilots on the radio - changed after the missed approach

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +12

      Yeah. 02 pilots. The second pilot gave a call just after the missed approach

    • @SamiJuntunen1
      @SamiJuntunen1 Před měsícem +2

      7.28 tower says 11 aclock. And then cancelled landing. Plane is about 11 a clock from Boston field? Should he not say dir of field?

    • @smark1180
      @smark1180 Před měsícem +12

      @@SamiJuntunen1 He said the _relative_ direction. Furthermore, the airport is 11 o'clock relative to the airplane's nose, not the other way around as you wrote,

    • @pilotlugao
      @pilotlugao Před 29 dny

      3

    • @paulorubens2527
      @paulorubens2527 Před 28 dny

      They probably sent the purser back to serve drinks and the pilot came back from releasing a dump.

  • @Shaken_AND_Stirred
    @Shaken_AND_Stirred Před měsícem +42

    I don’t understand how ATC deals with so many pilots that basically mumble under their breath. I’ve listened to more ATC communications and it seems to be the norm, not the exception with mumbling.

    • @retiredatc8720
      @retiredatc8720 Před měsícem +12

      Most pilots are loud and clear, they just don't make it to CZcams.

    • @markg7963
      @markg7963 Před měsícem +10

      It doesn’t matter what the pilot says for the. OST part. It matters what he hears. This guy was doing neither. 😂. Atc could have simplified things, slow down their speech, and cut out extra language not needed, just to get this guy on the ground and outta their hair. Then endeavor shows up and spouts off a bunch of non standard phrases.
      The overloaded atc system in the us and many other places has become a shit show.

    • @Shaken_AND_Stirred
      @Shaken_AND_Stirred Před měsícem

      @@retiredatc8720 , @markkg7963
      Before I retired, I used to sit in my high rise office in downtown Houston and listen to “Live ATC” from IAH after the Colgan Air crash. While not all pilots mumble, I sure heard way more than my fair share of COMMS that I often could not understand. I guess it’s one of those things that after you have listened to hours and hours of it, it becomes intelligible in what is being said. You simply learn the “dialect”.
      Thank you both for your responses to my initial comment.

    • @FlightX101
      @FlightX101 Před měsícem +4

      You get used to it in the air lol and youll know when someone is lost like this pilot

    • @Shaken_AND_Stirred
      @Shaken_AND_Stirred Před měsícem

      @@FlightX101
      Thank you!

  • @paulis7319
    @paulis7319 Před měsícem +43

    That sounds like a combination of language barrier and impairment (or illness). It's like he didn't even want to be flying.

  • @diegourbina9958
    @diegourbina9958 Před měsícem +24

    Felt so sorry for this guy but he does need to practice his English.
    However as a non-native speaker from Europe I must say that I find it way easier to understand the English of European ATC than US ATC. They could vocalize much better than they do.

  • @pocovolvedor
    @pocovolvedor Před 24 dny +11

    Just a little misunderstanding and he didnt cause any caos at all. The pilot was trying his BEST and was very respecfoul.

    • @imana3808
      @imana3808 Před 17 dny +1

      If your best isn’t good enough then you either need to get better or not do whatever you are doing

    • @pocovolvedor
      @pocovolvedor Před 16 dny +2

      @@imana3808 Humans are not machines. Even you. Can have a bad day... Mistakes are for learn about them...

    • @imana3808
      @imana3808 Před 16 dny +1

      @@pocovolvedor pilots bad days should NEVER be this bad

    • @anotherkatiek
      @anotherkatiek Před 9 hodinami

      Go cry about it. Do better or don't fly here. Period.

  • @Rob2
    @Rob2 Před měsícem +80

    When the controller says "possible pilot deviation I have a phone number to copy when you are ready" he can just reply "we are not ready, wait until we landed" right?
    It is a distraction especially for this pilot.

    • @michaelgoodman8742
      @michaelgoodman8742 Před měsícem +28

      Agreed, not the point at which to start chastisement when setting up the approach, which was bad enough already!

    • @yelkhettar
      @yelkhettar Před měsícem +7

      Agree

    • @paulis7319
      @paulis7319 Před měsícem +10

      Yes, he can. Up until now I've never heard a controller issue a pilot deviation before they've landed and are off the runway, and I'm retired.

    • @craigb5017
      @craigb5017 Před měsícem +7

      When the approach control and the tower are two different facilities, it is not unusual for approach to give the phone number. As a controller, you don't want to pass off additional workload to someone else if it can be helped. The replay was edited for time and the map was off, there may have been ample time at that point.

    • @wturn5354
      @wturn5354 Před měsícem +9

      The Approach is in a different facility than the tower. All the controller did was comply with directives to inform of a possible PD, and issue a phone number.
      I worked at this facility, this pilot should not have been flying in the US. He blew thru 10000 feet and a speed assignment. The controller did a great job, was VERY patient and professional.

  • @coriscotupi
    @coriscotupi Před měsícem +70

    The first pilot should go back to basic English lessons. He'd be hard pressed to buy food at the local supermarket.
    - "That will be $28.95, sir."
    - "Monday."

  • @urbanturbine
    @urbanturbine Před 29 dny +5

    This reminded me of the day I had my wisdom teeth pulled.

  • @richardsmith1055
    @richardsmith1055 Před 15 dny +3

    The problem here was that he wasn't completely insecure with his English. This is a big problem here in the US, many people have no idea, sometimes you politely and calmly ask them to stop speaking faster but the idiots continue speaking the same way or sometimes even increase the speed.

  • @kevin1873
    @kevin1873 Před měsícem +65

    Let's just hope the FAA was ready to greet this "pilot" upon landing. He's not drunk but he's definitely not qualified to be flying IFR.

    • @rogerrabit6088
      @rogerrabit6088 Před měsícem +20

      I think the problem is the ICAO english level of both pilots.

    • @otiravla
      @otiravla Před měsícem +3

      Not qulified, he is brazilian

    • @gendaminoru3195
      @gendaminoru3195 Před měsícem +1

      Actually i heard a different voice at 8:05 and it sounded like the first guy was incapacitated - stroke? going radio silent starting at 7:31 I like that they offered ATC a landing gear issue to avoid all the paperwork though.

    • @luizeduardomendespinheiro2241
      @luizeduardomendespinheiro2241 Před měsícem

      @@otiravla What!!??? Way to go, moron

    • @luizeduardomendespinheiro2241
      @luizeduardomendespinheiro2241 Před měsícem +29

      @@otiravla what a stupid comment. As we couldn't find hundreds of videos and audios of north american pilots making mistakes. Shame i can't unsee this....

  • @daveluttinen2547
    @daveluttinen2547 Před měsícem +9

    PSBFL is based in Brazil. One cannot let landing gear malfunctions keep you from flying the plane. Deviating more than 100' can get you written up and it sounds like this guy blew that by a country mile. I remember in flight training on a Mooney that my instructors would throw as many distractions as they could - but they were making sure that I maintained control and awareness despite systems analysis to correct "mechanical problems." When you fly turbines, this should be rote.

    • @p.c.9714
      @p.c.9714 Před dnem

      An Embraer 505 Phenom...

  • @craigwalters
    @craigwalters Před dnem

    Sounded like dad had been doing some drinking during the flight up to Boston. The son jumped in to save dad from losing his licence

  • @rafa57games
    @rafa57games Před 3 dny

    The ATC should realize that all they have to do was speak slowly, but instead they went full Eminem on the guy

  • @aerowurz
    @aerowurz Před měsícem +4

    Not even now, with subtitles, that dude still did not understand WTF just happened...

  • @wethenorth6437
    @wethenorth6437 Před měsícem +23

    The first pilot sounded impaired to me and it seems like someone else took control thank god. This doesn't give me a lot of faith in the awkward pilot who obviously was having some kind of difficulty understanding directions.

  • @JK-zo1pd
    @JK-zo1pd Před měsícem +13

    Pilot sounds like he’s partially inebriated

  • @yrds96
    @yrds96 Před 4 dny

    As a Brazilian working with people from the US, I can understand the struggle of not knowing exactly what the natives are saying. But at least I wasn't flying a plane 😆.

  • @user-kb8gh5jv9t
    @user-kb8gh5jv9t Před měsícem +57

    The Controller needs to realize that he is completely overloading this guy by giving a phone number, delegate that to Ground after landing, complete waste of time!
    That Pilot can’t even follow basic english instructions, sad state of affairs these days…
    His own callsign was a struggle for this guy!

    • @gazzas123
      @gazzas123 Před měsícem +5

      No the Pilot needs to have better english skills to fly.

    • @chrisdaxer3984
      @chrisdaxer3984 Před měsícem +12

      @@gazzas123 Absolutely, but doesn't mean he wasn't being overloaded at the moment. Phone numbers should be marked and saved for ground unless there is nothing going on in the cockpit. Bro can't speak english and is trying to go missed on top of understanding numbers to write down.

    • @jbsack
      @jbsack Před měsícem +1

      Tracon and ground control are inn2 seperate locations. The tracon controllers may not even be at airport. Not sure about Boston but NY tracon is a building in Garden City.Miles from JFK and Laguardia

    • @user-kb8gh5jv9t
      @user-kb8gh5jv9t Před měsícem +4

      @@jbsack , that makes no difference and is obviously the case! They are calling each other all the time to hand off traffic and other issues. The fact is, the Controller should have realized that he isn’t getting through to this character but instead he kept tying up the frequency with unnecessary banter that just made things more chaotic. Common sense goes a long way but sadly it’s truly a dying art.

    • @aeroba-tico
      @aeroba-tico Před měsícem +1

      @@gazzas123 True, still not the right moment to get in to that discusison or adding any more stress or distractions to an already overloaded pilot. It´s like going in to VFR in to IMC and expect the controller to give you a number and get you thinking about paper work while you are trying to get off that situation. Pilot should work on their enlish before flying again in the US and eben maybe anywhere outside of brazil. Having said that i did noticed the controller attempeted to make things easier like when confirming that ATIS he made it a yes/no question and then gave the pilot the weather when it changed to Golf

  • @lonerhino3229
    @lonerhino3229 Před měsícem +31

    PS FBL is from Brazil. This is an Embraer 505 Phenom. Seems like the pilots cannot communicate effectively. One would expect a higher level of proficiency to fly this airplane.

    • @mikec7220
      @mikec7220 Před měsícem

      It is a 2020 Embraer Phenom 300E s/n 50500516

    • @yachtcaptain7320
      @yachtcaptain7320 Před měsícem +2

      Embraer, yes. But they are not Portuguese speaking pilots.

    • @joycelima3051
      @joycelima3051 Před měsícem +8

      @@yachtcaptain7320 the registration is Brazilian and so is the owner... the pilots also, due to their English accent

    • @yachtcaptain7320
      @yachtcaptain7320 Před měsícem +4

      @@joycelima3051 Nope. They are not Brazilian.
      I can recognize Brazilians speaking English from 500 meters away.
      The Brazilians from Rio are the easiest to recognize speaking English due to their highly phonetic pronunciation.
      There is no way those 2 jet pilots are Brazilian.

    • @billpike-cn5pz
      @billpike-cn5pz Před měsícem +1

      @@yachtcaptain7320
      He sounds West African to me.

  • @DownTheRabbit-Hole
    @DownTheRabbit-Hole Před měsícem +7

    Language barrier is a problem here, but mainly this guy is not familiar with Phenom 300/G1000 ILS procedure.

    • @nikh9080
      @nikh9080 Před měsícem

      That pesky NAV/GPS button

  • @kenpalmer1965
    @kenpalmer1965 Před měsícem +6

    That guy really sounded like a bit if a dingbat, if I may say so. Following directions was not one of his strongest points!

  • @drewbrown7513
    @drewbrown7513 Před 28 dny +1

    Having to add the 5 degrees for him is wild

  • @BadMonkeyTouring
    @BadMonkeyTouring Před měsícem +23

    This is why the FAA needs to do cursory inspections on all private and charter aircraft, both prior to and immediately after arriving. In Europe, we're faced with what is known as a SAFA Inspection. The inspector literally goes through everything to make sure we're 100% legal.

    • @kukulkanlordofcas4931
      @kukulkanlordofcas4931 Před měsícem +2

      Does this happen every time in Europe? Or randomly by chance? Because the FAA has inspectors that can perform a "ramp check". Can be caused by seeing risky or dangerous activity during the flight, or even just a random thing. And if it's a commercial flight, they're allowed to enter the plane and check most anything.

    • @sandysmithvideos228
      @sandysmithvideos228 Před měsícem +1

      The FAA field inspection will do very little to prevent this and similar incidents around the country. We sign reciprocal treaties with countries for licensing both maritime and aviation standards. They only work if everyone follows the same rules and standards.

    • @erintyres3609
      @erintyres3609 Před měsícem

      Crash investigations (especially for some non-US airlines) sometimes find that the pilots are not correctly trained and qualified. Investigators have found log book entries that are forged or missing.
      In this case, the plane is not an airliner. It could be that its owner is very rich, very busy, and bought the plane without putting in all the time and effort to learn everything that he needs to know.

  • @Teinteressabrasil
    @Teinteressabrasil Před 11 dny

    In a situation like this, as the life of the plane and the environment are at risk, it is better for someone with more patience to work on this communication.

  • @dalegreer3095
    @dalegreer3095 Před měsícem +6

    Is "landing gear disagreement" is Portuguese for "The captain was drunk so I thwacked him on the head"?

    • @ww2blackcat
      @ww2blackcat Před měsícem

      First thing I thought 😅

    • @kevinmoffatt
      @kevinmoffatt Před 20 dny +1

      They had to pull the chart to see if gear was required in Boston.

  • @Dexox2009
    @Dexox2009 Před 27 dny +19

    As a member of the Brazilian community we would like to apologies for this one.
    He was instructed not to go to Boston. His English is still very broken.

    • @user-tm8jt2py3d
      @user-tm8jt2py3d Před 26 dny +5

      lol don't worry man, we aren't blaming all of Brazil, just trying to figure out why it went so bad

    • @Dexox2009
      @Dexox2009 Před 26 dny +3

      @@user-tm8jt2py3d Yea i know. Still shameful though.

    • @julietoozie
      @julietoozie Před 13 dny

      @@Dexox2009 Obrigado.

    • @winderdias9098
      @winderdias9098 Před 3 dny

      Não precisa puxar o saco dos gringos meu parceiro

  • @DrBozoEinstein
    @DrBozoEinstein Před 17 dny

    Scary. He's not driving his Beemer, this is the SKY, pal!

  • @nickdraddy101
    @nickdraddy101 Před 26 dny +1

    language barriers are inconvenient but are a fact of life, sometimes you have to take extra steps to communicate with people who communicate differently than you are accustomed to. In my old job my coworkers would always complain when a non-english speaking customer would ask for assistance. They would run away not even trying to speak or listen to the customer and claim it's not their responsibility.
    Imagine if someone deaf/mute came up to you obviously needing assistance. Would you run away from them because you are not deaf/mute? No, you stand there awkwardly playing charades until you figure out how to help them. or use your phone translator/text app lmao

  • @lamylhammoudi103
    @lamylhammoudi103 Před měsícem +2

    Ignoring possible pilot deviation is wild 😅

  • @N1120A
    @N1120A Před měsícem +13

    This isnt just a problem with English, but also completely ignoring proper procedures.

  • @jamesl7477
    @jamesl7477 Před měsícem

    What he meant by “landing gear disagreement” was that the two of them couldn’t agree when to swing the gear.

  • @Part61Cowboy
    @Part61Cowboy Před měsícem +2

    How do you get this far into a flying career with comms like that 😂

    • @OneTequilaTwoTequila
      @OneTequilaTwoTequila Před 17 dny

      He's probably not that far into his career. Certainly not flying Internationally.

  • @redbovine
    @redbovine Před měsícem +15

    I’m not a pilot but I think I could follow directions better.

  • @joaov.m.oliveira9903
    @joaov.m.oliveira9903 Před 7 dny +1

    Why is the audio on these super-expensive jet planes so horrible ? 😅

  • @JimmyBahia
    @JimmyBahia Před měsícem +3

    "Localizer and Glideslope at the same time?"

  • @alexandreabreupassos2560
    @alexandreabreupassos2560 Před 28 dny +4

    He mention a landing gear issue. He never refused to follow instructions. This is a click bait video 🤬🤬🤬

  • @DownTheRabbit-Hole
    @DownTheRabbit-Hole Před měsícem +12

    This is the same incompetent pilot as a recording from klas on this same channel They need to prohibit this guy from usa airspace.

  • @luciano61321
    @luciano61321 Před měsícem +5

    Got the money to buy an airplane but don’t know the basics of the language..then puts the son to take over the radio. Why i’m not surprised.

    • @user-jv5pn8vl8s
      @user-jv5pn8vl8s Před měsícem

      Aconteceu. N é costume...temos Excelentes pilotos.

    • @user-jv5pn8vl8s
      @user-jv5pn8vl8s Před měsícem

      @@flying9249 hello. It's not because I'm Brazilian and married to a Portuguese man, having lived in both countries...but I can say: Portuguese Tap and Brazilian companies are great. Someone commented that the pilot of this flight would not even be Brazilian and it is possible. The level of English varies in Brazil, but I assume - and from what I've experienced - that the Pilots have language tests for approval... Mistakes or mistakes happen. ex: because of an American Legacy plane, a Gol1907 commercial flight crashed in the Amazon rainforest. EVERYONE died violently....but...the Legacy pilots are free. They were never held accountable. Did you know that?

    • @josephalberta1145
      @josephalberta1145 Před měsícem +1

      I doubt he owns that jet. Most jet pilots work for a company.

  • @NotMee45
    @NotMee45 Před měsícem

    I’m in Boston and have never even been on a plane, but I’m halfway through this video and it’s scary af

  • @PMantis013
    @PMantis013 Před 4 dny

    As a brazilian, I'm very sorry, we're not that stupid.

  • @wood42shed
    @wood42shed Před měsícem +8

    Landing gear disagreement: he thought he could land fine with a nose full of gear, we disagreed.

    • @maxborisful
      @maxborisful Před měsícem

      I bet he was thinking co-pilots disagreement

  • @jahardin77
    @jahardin77 Před měsícem +6

    I feel like there were actually three pilots flying PBL on that approach. The last pilot sounded like a kid.

  • @AdrianoMoraes1974
    @AdrianoMoraes1974 Před 9 dny

    If the pilot was dealing with landing gear problems, WE ALL KNOW that the crew's priority is to manage the critical situation of the aircraft, not to answer the radio !!! Or is it that only I know that ???

  • @miguelcpal2443
    @miguelcpal2443 Před 16 dny +1

    A classic example of a foreign pilot with limited English skills. They might grasp only half of the messages, if that.
    When English isn't your first language, becoming fluent takes time. For a pilot, this can be extremely stressful, especially if they don't fly regularly or are in unfamiliar places. This is even more challenging for single-pilot aircraft with higher workloads.
    If you're an ATC and suspect this issue (pilots rarely admit they don't understand, except for frequent 'repeat, please' and ‘say again’), speak slowly, clearly, and keep messages concise. Save the reprimand for when they're safely on the ground. Reducing stress and complexity can save lives."

    • @User-jr7vf
      @User-jr7vf Před 8 dny +1

      I can speak and write/read English but could understand only half of what the controller said.

    • @miguelcpal2443
      @miguelcpal2443 Před 8 dny

      @@User-jr7vf Standardized aviation phraseology is key to ensuring clear and precise communication between pilots and air traffic controllers (ATC). This not only helps to avoid misunderstandings but also allows other aircraft on the same frequency to maintain proper situational awareness. Repeating or "readback" of received instructions ensures that the message has been understood correctly.
      Using standardized language and avoiding abbreviations, colloquialisms, or slang ensures that all pilots, regardless of their proficiency in the language, can follow the conversation. This way, safety and efficiency in air traffic management are maintained.

  • @j.barbosaoliveirajr.9316
    @j.barbosaoliveirajr.9316 Před měsícem +26

    Being a Brazilian who is fluent in English, it comes across that the first pilot either didn't speak the language fluently or couldn't hear the directions form ATC correctly. Just disappointing!!!

    • @eduardocesar9747
      @eduardocesar9747 Před 29 dny +1

      I feel the same way here, such a shame!

    • @douglasdeoliveira658
      @douglasdeoliveira658 Před 29 dny +11

      Dude give the guys a break! I’m a pilot I’ve been flying in United States for 8 years and not all have been pieces of cake, you’re flying in a country that has a way more crowded space than Brazil with flight controllers that’s doesn’t care if you’re local or not, I never had a violation but definitely have done my mistakes, so I’ll tell you, it takes time to be fluent/proficient on flying here!

    • @swainlach4587
      @swainlach4587 Před 29 dny +2

      ​@@douglasdeoliveira658sorry no excuse

    • @somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
      @somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 Před 29 dny +3

      @@douglasdeoliveira658 I’ve flown all over the world and this was some weak sauce! If your English skills are this poor, stay home, or rather don’t fly, as aviation is entirely english. I’ll be the first to admit that certain US controllers can behave poorly, but that wasn’t the case here. Just imagine this crew in a part of the world that doesn’t hand hold like the US can and with another non native English speaker.
      English proficiency card revoked!

    • @leandrobragasp
      @leandrobragasp Před 29 dny +1

      Empatia zero….

  • @GFSwinger1693
    @GFSwinger1693 Před měsícem +9

    What a Charlie Foxtrot.

    • @gitargr8
      @gitargr8 Před měsícem +4

      Controller was probably thinking Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

  • @Urbanbenelux
    @Urbanbenelux Před měsícem +9

    Those criticising the pilots, now watch it without subtitles. The ATCO's are incomprehensible, dont articulate and use non-standard request like turn 5 degrees right. ATCO'S not helpful and make matters worse for the pilots and themselves, totally unprofessional.

    • @BruPadov
      @BruPadov Před měsícem +4

      Exactly! I'm Brazilian and fluent in English, but the transmission and speed of the orders confused me. If it weren't for the subtitles, I think 80% of the people criticizing the pilots wouldn't know what was said either.

    • @flightschoollifeschool5007
      @flightschoollifeschool5007 Před 28 dny +1

      "Turn 5 deg. right" is not non-standard. It is very common.

    • @User-jr7vf
      @User-jr7vf Před 8 dny +1

      @@BruPadov Eu também. Impressionante, entendi só metade, e olhe lá.

  • @psneves
    @psneves Před měsícem +6

    my goodness. U know what this is called right? "Get the cheapest you can get."

  • @SeanColbath
    @SeanColbath Před měsícem +4

    What happens in the case that ATC and the pilots simply can not communicate? Can ATC reach out to someone who speaks Portuguese? I acknowledge that that simply should not be necessary, but this came close.

    • @aeroba-tico
      @aeroba-tico Před měsícem +1

      That should not happen before flying internationally a pilot must pass an english assesment that rates their comunication skills from 1 to 6 being 4 the minimum required to fly internationally. these pilots likely have the level 4. if you have pilots willing to break the rules and fly without that then you are in much bigger problems dealing with someone that even understanding the regulation is not willing to follow it

    • @OneTequilaTwoTequila
      @OneTequilaTwoTequila Před 17 dny

      @@aeroba-tico Whoever gave this idiot his English Language Proficiency rating needs to have his head checked. I've flown internationally for nearly 30 years. I've heard a lot of bad English on the radio. This guy is horrific.

  • @megadavis5377
    @megadavis5377 Před 20 dny

    It’s like trying to control a cat.

  • @kmoore02809
    @kmoore02809 Před měsícem +25

    First pilot seemed to be having language difficulties. When they switched, things got much better.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +7

      Exactly.

    • @g_pazzini
      @g_pazzini Před měsícem

      also he seems difficult on handling the comm… but he can fly the airplane.. that’s why they switched position the 2nd time.

  • @OneSpeedGo
    @OneSpeedGo Před 28 dny +1

    What was the actual outcome of this situation? Hire some Cape Air pilots and send those 2 back to flight school. Language barrier would mean to just ask for help. Ayuda Me!!!

  • @beaudure01
    @beaudure01 Před 18 dny

    I’m not reassured by the notion that a pilot who already seems overwhelmed has to drop everything to copy a phone number. Maybe that process can be modernized soon?

  • @sparky6200
    @sparky6200 Před měsícem +1

    Who signed this guy off as "English Proficient"?!?!?

  • @NuncNuncNuncNunc
    @NuncNuncNuncNunc Před 10 dny

    Title is a little overblown. Pilots experienced difficulty and chose proper priority, aviate. Sounds like they switched PIC, fixed problem, and then continued on as normal.

  • @FlyTaylor
    @FlyTaylor Před měsícem +24

    I really don’t understand why it’s so difficult to debrief your charts and airport prior to getting in the air??? He clearly didn’t debrief a damn thing smh

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +9

      He was not prepared at all.

    • @Airpaycheck
      @Airpaycheck Před měsícem +14

      @@Flight_FollowerDebrief is for after the flight. Brief is prior to. He probably got debriefed after he landed. I doubt he knows what a deviation is. Probably back out of the country before they could find him.

    • @sirtango1
      @sirtango1 Před měsícem

      If this was his original destination he didn’t brief at all. If he was destined for another airport and his secondary was experiencing bad weather too, it could’ve been a factor. He might’ve thought he was getting a reward and needed to call the number to claim his prize! 😂

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 Před měsícem +1

      @@Airpaycheckyep, they’ll find a janitor at Embraer to deliver their jets to the US, and are immediately on the next commercial flight out of the country.

    • @brandonadams7837
      @brandonadams7837 Před měsícem +2

      Brief - prior to flight. Debrief - after flight.

  • @EduardoMCfly
    @EduardoMCfly Před 14 dny

    Just like in IVAO… 😂

  • @cpy
    @cpy Před měsícem

    7:10 "looks like you blew though a little bit there"

    • @zdenekkindl2778
      @zdenekkindl2778 Před měsícem +1

      Yes. Born english speaker can adjust and speak more clearly, like he has been tought in school and not like he spoke to his buddies in a pub previous evening!

  • @panaceiasuberes6464
    @panaceiasuberes6464 Před 17 dny

    8:52 "Landing gear disagreement" means "estámos borrados de tanta caipirinha" in Brazilian.

  • @ardeladimwit
    @ardeladimwit Před měsícem +13

    FBL sounds stoned out of gourd

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Před měsícem +2

      Yeah

    • @wagmiorngmi
      @wagmiorngmi Před měsícem

      @@Flight_Follower he was off his face on coke. Always sounds the same when he comes into Canela here in Brasil.

  • @georgybest5135
    @georgybest5135 Před měsícem

    Brazilian Nuts this episode dude.

  • @TM-hl9kz
    @TM-hl9kz Před měsícem +22

    Terrible. English is the international standard language for civil aviation. If you can't speak and understand it, you have no business flying an aircraft--anywhere in the world, let alone in the US.
    A "landing gear issue." I hate it when that happens! Good one.

    • @carlosponchio1869
      @carlosponchio1869 Před měsícem +3

      Have you ever tried to listen to another language thru an airplane radio? even American pilots have to go to "say again" to these ATC types. You can have English Level 10 but NE corridor are full of a-holes, trying to ruin your day.

    • @tim1398
      @tim1398 Před měsícem +1

      Most aviation is done in the local language for the local airlines. English is not a widely spoke language in Brazil, I'm sure their ATC is using Portuguese for the locals. And to be fair the big-city ATC english is like listening to an auctioneer.

  • @lpls
    @lpls Před 20 dny

    PS-FBL is a Phenom 300. My guess is that the plane's owner is flying it and is impaired somehow.

  • @user-tm1ij3tr6p
    @user-tm1ij3tr6p Před 13 dny +1

    how about letting him land how can he call anyone when he is landing.

  • @Steve-pk9ok
    @Steve-pk9ok Před měsícem +12

    I live in an area where the flights come over my house for incoming and outgoing depending on the wind direction. These types of pilots scare the hell out of me.

    • @chizzo777
      @chizzo777 Před měsícem

      Why? Can you hear them talking?

    • @User-jr7vf
      @User-jr7vf Před 8 dny

      No need to be scared. Pilot has visual sight of what lies ahead during approach. Even if he can't understand what ATC says, he will still see terrain/houses and push up

  • @davidmaisel8062
    @davidmaisel8062 Před měsícem +2

    I have lived in Brazil for 20 years. The way English language courses worked here for years is that teachers need to take training (not just pass a test) by a Brazilian institute even if they are native speakers with foreign university graduations. This was implemented to protect Brazilian English teachers from unfair competition..

  • @thepinktreeclub
    @thepinktreeclub Před 26 dny

    yea if y'all really looking for the cause of it, you'd focus on other adjectives about the pilot, i think his incompetence is more important to be cited than the place he was born in.

  • @victorbalatademoura7398

    The Co younger and probably with better English took the radio lol “better now”

  • @bluehorseshoe9216
    @bluehorseshoe9216 Před měsícem +9

    This man sounds fatigued! also, when a pilot deviation occurs why not let them get on the ground first before giving the warning and the number? all it does in flight is increase stress and lead to more mistakes.

  • @HanifNGX
    @HanifNGX Před měsícem +2

    PSFBL Say “cancel IFR”

  • @umby1763
    @umby1763 Před měsícem +6

    ATC in the US shows always zero emphaty and zero “no blame culture” (saying “possible pilot deviation” on frequency?!)
    Speaking slower, using and limiting only to standard ICAO phraseology (which clearly they don’t use or either know) without overwhelming the poor pilot it would have provided a different outcome.
    Thinking that not everyone is American helps.

  • @gyrowave
    @gyrowave Před měsícem +1

    Some newbies english speakers are good while they can control the dialogue, if the other party deviates, they will try to translate on the go, and evidently he lost his nerve, the other guy with better understanding took over and made a few minor mistakes while maintaining the approach withing reasonable parameters! A little ego bruising for the first guy but all safe in the ground! I like to point out the recent accident with that girl in Houston, she was native but the lingo got her confused and she stoped aviating!

  • @louisstennes3
    @louisstennes3 Před měsícem

    I know little of this subject except as a flying passenger but I would assume Boston Logan is a less congested airport compared to JFK, Chicago, LA or SFO and Heathrow or say Charles DeGaulle , in France. Can you imagine ATC trying to get this guy on the ground at one of those congested airports?

  • @SabinoFNeto
    @SabinoFNeto Před 22 dny +2

    Control should have more patient and be more clear with instructions....

  • @BRuas9080
    @BRuas9080 Před 29 dny +2

    ATC should have spoken more slowly.

  • @PatrickSBellSr
    @PatrickSBellSr Před 16 dny

    This is PAINFUL to watch and listen to. 😳

  • @pauldavies4870
    @pauldavies4870 Před měsícem +14

    i am exhausted.

  • @PILOTCOSTA
    @PILOTCOSTA Před 6 dny

    and thats why an ICAO level 4 is not enough... also pilot situation awareness was lacking

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Před měsícem +4

    I think that Brazilian pilot is pissing off the air traffic controller for not doing what the air traffic controller wants him to do

    • @lasagnapotato3853
      @lasagnapotato3853 Před měsícem +7

      You might be on to something

    • @erintyres3609
      @erintyres3609 Před měsícem +1

      An important rule is that the pilots must read back (and follow!) any air traffic control instructions. When the controller says, "Papa Sierra Foxtro Bravo Lima, maintain one zero thousand feet", he expects them to immediately reply, "maintaining one zero thousand feet Papa Sierra Foxtrot Bravo Lima". Not replying at all, or ignoring them, or making an irrelevant reply is completely unacceptable.
      Also, if the pilots discover a landing gear problem, they ought to say, "Papa Sierra Foxtro Bravo Lima will fly missed approach, landing gear problem". They can't just wander around the sky without making or answering any calls.

    • @nikh9080
      @nikh9080 Před měsícem

      It's Capt obvious

    • @musicalaviator
      @musicalaviator Před měsícem

      @@erintyres3609 I wonder if the landing gear problem was that they hadn't selected landing gear down, and the "too low, gear" warnings started blaring in the cockpit

  • @evanlinn5869
    @evanlinn5869 Před měsícem +48

    None of their callouts were remotely close to being complete or standardized. These folks have no business operating in our national airspace system.

    • @chizzo777
      @chizzo777 Před měsícem +2

      How dare you?

    • @pesto12601
      @pesto12601 Před měsícem +5

      "these folks".. really? Ugh!

    • @nuclearrabbit1
      @nuclearrabbit1 Před měsícem

      These folks, as in English illiterate? Absolutely correct, man. These woke idiots are gonna argue that anybody can go fly a plane?

    • @rafborrero
      @rafborrero Před měsícem +9

      @@pesto12601These folks = the two pilots

    • @ra2186
      @ra2186 Před měsícem

      I hear Americans screw up like this daily on this channel.

  • @foggy71
    @foggy71 Před měsícem +2

    "Okay"?

  • @MatthewSeamans
    @MatthewSeamans Před měsícem +1

    The pilot sounds sedated.