Flats reacts to the Overwatch 2 Article on banning the word "Diff"

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  • @Pashymyna
    @Pashymyna Před rokem +1864

    Diff might disappear, but Gap hurts more.

  • @Yorishiriamori
    @Yorishiriamori Před rokem +2048

    "Blizzard has to stop toxicity"
    Blizzard putting a high silver on my diamond team

    • @davidsabillon5182
      @davidsabillon5182 Před rokem +3

      😂

    • @Sweet_Clod
      @Sweet_Clod Před rokem +67

      was playing open q, which i’m gm 5, and literally had gold players on my team. Not sure how thats even possible

    • @kgenz9389
      @kgenz9389 Před rokem +6

      At least they are high silver and not low silver

    • @Seraph_op
      @Seraph_op Před rokem +20

      I am too lazy to check profiles since most of them a closed by default THANKS BLIZZARD.. but half of my games feel exactly like that

    • @joehudson7007
      @joehudson7007 Před rokem +18

      *Blizzard puts my bronze rear into a diamond match*
      Me: haha I'm in danger

  • @mykuuuuuu
    @mykuuuuuu Před rokem +134

    The only issue i have with people calling "diff" left and right is that the people who say it are usually the worst person on the team

    • @fressco
      @fressco Před rokem +11

      exactly, usually good players try to help or advise during the game.

    • @johndoe7017
      @johndoe7017 Před rokem +1

      Idk, it depends I’ve seen it from both ends of the spectrum

    • @TheMightyMarlo
      @TheMightyMarlo Před rokem +4

      Guy I play with who is always the worst on our team always says “diff”. Buts it done on purpose, he knows he’s trash and that’s the point 😅

    • @Kyrious
      @Kyrious Před rokem +2

      I do it to insult the enemy dps mid match and get in their heads.
      I never use it against teammates even if it’s true or the end of the match, you get nothing from hurting team morale.

    • @serenitybrown2741
      @serenitybrown2741 Před rokem

      @@Kyrious 99% of the time they’re just giggling at you but that 1% of dudes who freaks tf out is so worth it

  • @buckashisensei
    @buckashisensei Před rokem +45

    I had a really supportive team yesterday that kept typing nice things in the chat actually being helpful so I typed "wholesome team for once" then one of them started spamming the hard r lol

    • @phwn
      @phwn Před rokem +16

      Balanced, yin and yang.

    • @dirt_dert_durt
      @dirt_dert_durt Před rokem +5

      What is not wholesome about racial slurs in an online multiplayer shooter?

    • @Mewmewio
      @Mewmewio Před rokem +2

      Ahh yes the classic fps experience 😳

  • @TheGeekSquaredified
    @TheGeekSquaredified Před rokem +606

    I think the main issue is that banning words does nothing to counter toxicity. Is the word diff used by people being toxic? Yes. Will banning it reduce toxicity? No.

    • @JestInCase
      @JestInCase Před rokem +8

      This.

    • @DarthMajora
      @DarthMajora Před rokem +30

      It's not just used by toxic people, either. My friends and I use it as jokes basically.
      There are more that use it to be toxic tho8gh, of course. That'll never change. Can't change human nature

    • @Yea___
      @Yea___ Před rokem

      There is no end to progression

    • @CommunistPenguin-bw2mf
      @CommunistPenguin-bw2mf Před rokem

      @@DarthMajora factual

    • @swiftyxrd
      @swiftyxrd Před rokem

      Why do you care if it's banned or not if it makes no difference?

  • @flerbertflubber3842
    @flerbertflubber3842 Před rokem +1007

    People are always going to come up with a word or phrase to call their teammates bad. It’s impossible to stop it as long as chat exists. (also, you can turn off the chat too) :D

    • @JrKengu
      @JrKengu Před rokem +26

      they should remove chat from this game completely. no reason to be typing at all. if you want to communicate, should be voice chat only, or pings, and anyone who says anything that is NOT relevant to the game in voice chat, should be instantly permabanned. Thats how it should work.

    • @JrKengu
      @JrKengu Před rokem +16

      basically, in comp, the chat isnt there to be typing shit like "diff" this "diff" that. That, in itself, is throwing. I don't have a problem with the word "diff" per se, but I do have a problem with people flaming, because they are no better than trolls, or bad players, they are JUST AS MUCH a detriment to the team's chances of winning. Typers/flamers/trolls, are all of a piece.

    • @P0MPH
      @P0MPH Před rokem +145

      @@JrKengu L take

    • @Pingoz
      @Pingoz Před rokem +117

      @@JrKengu "hows it going ma-" INSTANT BAN SMALL TALK IS FORBIDDEN STOP TROLLING WE WILL DOX YOU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • @guck3562
      @guck3562 Před rokem

      @@JrKengu dogshit take

  • @Tinykraken
    @Tinykraken Před rokem +19

    I was playing Rein against another Rien and they said "tank diff" after the first round. My team and I proceeded to roll them and pulled a 2-1 victory. Let me tell you, saying "tank diff" back at the end felt so good

  • @notequalto5179
    @notequalto5179 Před rokem +16

    Mid is another perfect example of a word that totally changed meaning culturally.

  • @adrianr9101
    @adrianr9101 Před rokem +299

    Y'all remember when you had to write a paper in school that you didn't feel like writing so you just threw something together to slide by...this is what this article feels like. They just wrote this to write it to keep their job.

    • @SnakeSkinz
      @SnakeSkinz Před rokem +4

      Nah fam. People are really like this

    • @livegolfismygt
      @livegolfismygt Před rokem +9

      Both are true. It seems reasonable to encourage coping skills rather than impose one's will for how others should speak

    • @livegolfismygt
      @livegolfismygt Před rokem +1

      And continuing through the video, I agree with the notion of implementing personal filters for the reasons he outlines.

    • @padarousou
      @padarousou Před rokem +3

      That’s honestly most journalists at this point

  • @eringlasrud6484
    @eringlasrud6484 Před rokem +257

    I'd take "gg ez" or "diff' over having someone on your team call you or other teammates "dogshit" or racial slurs or something like that any day.

    • @CommunistPenguin-bw2mf
      @CommunistPenguin-bw2mf Před rokem +19

      Seriously people focus on the wrong things

    • @JojoTheVulture
      @JojoTheVulture Před rokem +15

      Gg ez is probably unproblematic toxicity cus that happens when the match is over. Saying Diff during a match can activately cause tilt

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 Před rokem +24

      I miss the racial slurs.

    • @happyhopehuber
      @happyhopehuber Před rokem +4

      @@JojoTheVulture since when did psychological warfare become exempt from a competitive endeavor?

    • @JojoTheVulture
      @JojoTheVulture Před rokem +8

      @@happyhopehuber It's called sportsmanship

  • @kattastrophe7240
    @kattastrophe7240 Před rokem +9

    100% if diff gets banned, something else will take its place. People are already using gap, which I think is actually a stronger term to use. I do think a better option is having a client/user side feature allowing players to block key words or phrases from being visible on their end.

    • @evildarc0
      @evildarc0 Před rokem

      id be fine with this. there is also a mute button also / hidechat / block. i guess people forget

  • @nashbickford9894
    @nashbickford9894 Před rokem +3

    You had me crying with the “NOOOOO ITS A SILVER PLAYER!!” That No was so real, so guttural that I was in tears.

  • @itsyaboiherman
    @itsyaboiherman Před rokem +138

    I'm from the future....blizzard has put the word diff as a in game item for 2200 ow coins

    • @ScarasRealLover
      @ScarasRealLover Před rokem +31

      "We want to give players a better experience and rid of toxicity!"
      "Anyways, here's a dva voice line where she just tells you to k!ll yourself"

    • @Russ-
      @Russ- Před rokem +3

      Don't believe you, That's way too cheap.

    • @ReconNarwhal
      @ReconNarwhal Před rokem +8

      2200 ow coins is the discounted price. The normal price is 2900 ow coins

    • @ExplicitCode
      @ExplicitCode Před rokem

      xD

    • @lawtamim
      @lawtamim Před rokem +9

      @@ScarasRealLover speaking of dva voicelines im surprised they didnt complain about voicelines like "you need aim trainer" or "skill issue" lmao

  • @Pheminon1
    @Pheminon1 Před rokem +625

    Reminds me of the Valorant pros who were suspended for speaking out against someone saying "teabagging qualifies as sexual harassment"

    • @revan5293
      @revan5293 Před rokem +19

      😂😂😂 so dumb I remember that.

    • @MissMinikku
      @MissMinikku Před rokem +45

      it happened in an Apex Legends tournament too, insane...

    • @pikapowns
      @pikapowns Před rokem +80

      That reminds me of the team that got like perma banned from a tournament for teabagging their own teammate with no existing rules against it.

    • @tatuvarvemaa5314
      @tatuvarvemaa5314 Před rokem +18

      The audasity people had to even compare the two. Man its wild how stupid people are sometimes.

    • @atomicaftershow
      @atomicaftershow Před rokem +41

      @@pikapowns it was an Apex Tournament. I remember it was so stupid. It wasn't even an enemy. It was literally a teammate. Their own friend.

  • @Alomare
    @Alomare Před rokem +3

    Imagine blizzard doing such a simple cool thing as a custom mute filter. Just imagine

  • @gc79006
    @gc79006 Před rokem

    What is the music at the start of the video omg, i know it but i can't remember where is it from

    • @_Zuckeraffe_
      @_Zuckeraffe_ Před rokem +1

      Hey man, its from the game Terraria, in particular the song "Alternate Day"

  • @bunkyysol1132
    @bunkyysol1132 Před rokem +160

    Even dva says it’s a skill issue when she gets a kill once in a while. the toxicity will always be in any competitive team based game

    • @LorikQuinn
      @LorikQuinn Před rokem +10

      Says dont want toxicity but turns the casual game inside out, makes a League so people THINK someday they might reach the same status as the pros and now your game is a sweaty tryhard inferno.
      OW now is the iRacing of "casual" shooters

    • @pedrosilvamusician
      @pedrosilvamusician Před rokem +4

      @@LorikQuinn I was going to say at least it's cheaper, but at this point i'm not sure as well

    • @NotJarrod
      @NotJarrod Před rokem +10

      That's a good point I didn't even think of. What does it matter what the chat has in it when the characters themselves talk trash?

    • @LorikQuinn
      @LorikQuinn Před rokem +4

      @@pedrosilvamusician at least you can play it for free, but no skins for u now. My brother paid like $20 and i play on his account, i own at least 1 legendary for each characyer, from events or even level up drops, now his account is worth like $600 in skins LOL

    • @katsdraws
      @katsdraws Před rokem +9

      She says “you need aim training” too lol

  • @mikec2845
    @mikec2845 Před rokem +132

    Something that people don't seem to be mentioning is that when you give the user control over their own chat filtering it's impossible for bad actors to know exactly what your filter looks like. Thus substantially deterring people from filterpassing.
    As soon as you add a word to a global blacklist, everyone who used to use it is just going to rebel and get around it, increasing the actual toxicity on the platform.

    • @CopShowGuy
      @CopShowGuy Před rokem +9

      People still spam "GGEZ" now because everyone knows what the phrases it turns into actually mean.

    • @zir456
      @zir456 Před rokem

      @@CopShowGuy ggez just very mild but It's annoying when theres no much different between stats

    • @satisfiedjelly
      @satisfiedjelly Před rokem +2

      @@CopShowGuy Honestly the fact that it changes it now makes me type it more because it’s funny

    • @z.a.4801
      @z.a.4801 Před rokem

      I just type ez if I want to trigger someone, no filter there.

    • @BWizard1
      @BWizard1 Před rokem +2

      It’s actually sad that people feel like they have to sensor “toxic” words. Banning slurs and obvious offensive things to say makes sense but this is taking it too far.
      If some stranger typing gg ez or whatever diff in chat is actually hurting your feelings that bad you need to stop playing competitive games. That’s just being soft. It’s pathetic that people can’t take any kind of criticism anymore.
      If someone says dps diff to me and I’m actually doing bad on dps I’m gonna try to play better or do my best to catch up as much as possible. And if they’re saying dps diff even when I know I’m not the problem, I either point out what I’ve done and what they haven’t or I ignore it bc I know I am not the person in the wrong.
      It’s crazy to me that people are bothered by this shit. I grew up on cod. Og modern warfares and black ops 1 and 2. WILD shit was said every other game. Yet nobody was ever really bothered by it. If half the shit that was said in those games was said in overwatch everybody in the lobby might drop dead of a heart attack. People need to stop being so soft. Words aren’t gonna hurt you. Especially when the only mean things they can say to you are about your performance in a video game lmao.

  • @zaub1
    @zaub1 Před rokem +2

    6:23 I 100% agree with this, the toxic self entitled jerks are the problem itself 99% of the time. This is easy to spot if you sometimes play quick play, where you get backfills, as soon as they leave (and you get a backfill) you win.

  • @neptuneairslash3867
    @neptuneairslash3867 Před rokem +1

    ML7 and Flats are genius for coming up with that idea. Most real shit I've ever heard. Personal filter should already be in the game.

  • @rokkalombardi2196
    @rokkalombardi2196 Před rokem +247

    Game journalist got diff'd and they took that personally 😂

    • @zavhyatta9795
      @zavhyatta9795 Před rokem +2

      EXACTLY! They just suck lmao.

    • @xEvilRaptorx
      @xEvilRaptorx Před rokem

      Dammit I just made this joke in a comment section 2 comments above (in my feed) lol

    • @boomingbob1579
      @boomingbob1579 Před rokem +1

      Sounds like a skill issue

    • @terryfries
      @terryfries Před rokem

      Silver Game Journalist

    • @mangshu21
      @mangshu21 Před rokem

      yep they probably suck and they got mad someone called them out

  • @Phoenix_NH
    @Phoenix_NH Před rokem +59

    I can’t wait to switch to “my goodness, this is quite the differential in the damage role!”

    • @CommunistPenguin-bw2mf
      @CommunistPenguin-bw2mf Před rokem +2

      LMFAO I am using that

    • @XboxAffrayer
      @XboxAffrayer Před rokem +5

      Yupp that's what I'm using now. MGTIQTDITDR

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 Před rokem +2

      Quite the problematic amount of mechanics have been shown to us, dare I say!

    • @boomingbob1579
      @boomingbob1579 Před rokem

      Our Damage Players may have experienced a little difference in skill shown there

  • @greenstrawberrygaming
    @greenstrawberrygaming Před rokem +1

    Honestly, Some games should have a personal word ban list. Like you can ban words that you don't wanna see and it doesn't show the message to you

  • @Void_Dragon
    @Void_Dragon Před rokem

    Ive done a few toxic reports and have been shown action has been taken, got a skin once for it. It will only go through if you get a screen saying "action has been taken" but refuse to say what action exactly.

  • @Twilight.Princess
    @Twilight.Princess Před rokem +149

    I’ve never cared about “Toxic” language but you 100% make a good point. There’s other words worse than diff that still can be said but the article writer is crying about diff.

    • @tychus7
      @tychus7 Před rokem +9

      I love playing brig and getting called actual slurs many times a game but no. Diff is the most toxic thing ever

    • @ReizokoRyu
      @ReizokoRyu Před rokem +5

      I got told to kill myself several bad games in a row, and then match-wide, great praise a few games later 🤡

    • @SnailSnail-lo4pm
      @SnailSnail-lo4pm Před rokem +2

      @@ReizokoRyu that's what you get for playing doom :)

    • @DmMoiMienNamke.mandimoiroNgu
      @DmMoiMienNamke.mandimoiroNgu Před rokem +2

      he probably got diffed lmao

    • @salvadortapia5558
      @salvadortapia5558 Před rokem +4

      @@ReizokoRyu I think they meant keep yourself safe

  • @RioRock7
    @RioRock7 Před rokem +70

    I had a game that we lost when I was on support, someone on my team said support Diff, literally both supports on our team had more healing more damage and better KDs than the other healers 💀

    • @revan5293
      @revan5293 Před rokem +9

      Sounds about right tho lol

    • @skuggikuwa8989
      @skuggikuwa8989 Před rokem +4

      Yeah but I bet you both played as different characters so obviously the supports were different ...gosh

    • @jessefoster6653
      @jessefoster6653 Před rokem +12

      Worst person on the team is always the loudest

    • @RioRock7
      @RioRock7 Před rokem +1

      It was a quick play but like still

    • @anarchistmaverick9507
      @anarchistmaverick9507 Před rokem +1

      @@RioRock7 Doesn’t matter what game mode
      Losing still pains

  • @oddyzzee
    @oddyzzee Před rokem +3

    Like you said Flats. It’s not ok and it will always be a thing in competitive gaming. Have taken crap for years and still today, for maining Sombra. I’ve learned to put it aside and to filter commentary. Quote: “Someone's opinion of you, doesn't have to become your reality”

  • @SnaxxNZGaming
    @SnaxxNZGaming Před rokem +2

    From my experience as a low ranked player, "diff" is only used in match chat at the end of the game.
    Either by the loosing team to explain the loss or by the winning team to brag.
    I stopped joining match chat (because of other toxic reasons) and I haven't seen "diff" since.

    • @muffinxcancer
      @muffinxcancer Před rokem

      No wonder you're low rank. Stay in chat

    • @123Suffering456
      @123Suffering456 Před rokem +1

      @@muffinxcancer Why though? From my experience the match chat is only used for trash talk anyway. Only distracts from the game, I turn it off as well. Now, team chat is another story of course.

    • @SnaxxNZGaming
      @SnaxxNZGaming Před rokem

      Pretty much.
      Turn off Orange chat, keep blue chat on.

  • @OseronPhaer
    @OseronPhaer Před rokem +37

    As someone who generally dislikes trash talk and the like, banning words is very obviously not the solution. It doesn't really fix the "issue" nor is it an issue that can ever really be fixed.

    • @jazay591
      @jazay591 Před rokem +5

      Fr people really think they could control fundamental aspects of human/cultural nature by banning the word "diff". Lmao

    • @Seraph_op
      @Seraph_op Před rokem +1

      it can't be fixed but reduced for sure. toxicity comes from anger and anger in games comes from injustice most of the time. stuff like bad hitboxes or poor balancing those things are subjective and you will never get everyone to be happy... but unless someone is delusional they have a right to be angry with something.
      take the new shop for example you may say its dogshit and thats subjective but if everyone thinks the same way to be it might as well be objectively true.

    • @terryfries
      @terryfries Před rokem

      come to Middle east servers to get demolished in team chat or team vc if they find out you are ghey

  • @lj1653
    @lj1653 Před rokem +14

    you can't ban words. people will just start using a different word that will convey the same meaning as the original word
    then it's just a game of whack a mole as the community uses new words.
    for example, players started saying "not hard" instead of "ez"

    • @tatuvarvemaa5314
      @tatuvarvemaa5314 Před rokem

      Well, you have a point but there are words that ARE banned and rightfully so. First one that comes to mind is the N-word.

    • @alkestos
      @alkestos Před rokem +2

      Word diff.

    • @channelhasbeensuspended3986
      @channelhasbeensuspended3986 Před rokem +1

      @@tatuvarvemaa5314 fighting the wrong point

    • @tatuvarvemaa5314
      @tatuvarvemaa5314 Před rokem +1

      @@channelhasbeensuspended3986 Im not fighting anything. Im just pointing out that there are words that are banned and should be banned.
      Its WHAT words get banned that matters, not the banning nesseserally.

    • @alexknight81
      @alexknight81 Před rokem

      @@tatuvarvemaa5314 Yeah the word itself might be banned, but there a lot of ways that people circumvent the ban to be able to say it, therefore not really "removing that word" by either putting a space a number or another character, I have seen it happen multiple times this week alone.

  • @Juntou
    @Juntou Před rokem +1

    The subtle terraria music really adds to the chaos of this article

  • @songkit2312
    @songkit2312 Před rokem +1

    Diff really is the new scourge
    I have a friend who's new and every single time they play they get 'tracer diff' 'soldier diff' and it's unrelenting
    It's genuinely just an easy word people can use to put others down and I feel bad every time
    Especially since you can't easily see if someone is new anymore

  • @saskeru9346
    @saskeru9346 Před rokem +48

    If the devs actually do something about this, it'd be year 6 of OW confirming my belief that it's the softest gaming community

    • @shorelinefishing9213
      @shorelinefishing9213 Před rokem +4

      Right? This talking smack nothing more, im sorry but a little spat between enemy players and even teammates is normal. I swear none of the people played an actual sport before. They would crumble

    • @MhnFive
      @MhnFive Před rokem

      I knew overwatch players were soft as shit when mccree got changed to Cassidy and people decided instead of going on with their lives, they'll just defend using mccree as some battle is moral and ethics.
      Seriously, it's the most snowflake shit in the world. A character's name got changed and they wanna fuck around with identity politics cause saying "Cass" challenges their masculinity.

    • @ScarasRealLover
      @ScarasRealLover Před rokem +3

      @@fergala4397 I understand your principle but cassidy/cree isn't real lmfao. Changing his name is completely fine. Sorry that sexual assault victims aren't "thick-skinned" enough for you.

    • @holloworeo2233
      @holloworeo2233 Před rokem +1

      @@ScarasRealLover if I was sexually assaulted by someone at blizzard, I think the last thing I'd wanna do is play overwatch, the game that said offender is related too 💀. Barely anyone knew McCree was named after a scum bag Blizz employee, so the name change looked more like a publicity stunt, but hey, we all have our opinions.

    • @thedude4840
      @thedude4840 Před rokem

      …. It’s an article from game rant. It holds the same weight as a buzzfeed article calm down. It’s still a discussion worth having but this trash journalism made to be mocked and stir up Twitter posts and reaction videos you play into their hand by doing this.

  • @TheCrazybaby411
    @TheCrazybaby411 Před rokem +11

    The funniest thing is when I got diff in one of my QPs, I was just confused 😂😂. I just looked it up and was like “oooooooh okay, anyways” to myself. It’s better than hearing heaving breathing and curses in voice chat. 😂

  • @spoofedup1369
    @spoofedup1369 Před rokem +1

    The single time I said something like this was Dps cataclysm

  • @thebandit6886
    @thebandit6886 Před rokem +24

    "Blizzard needs to delete toxicity"
    "Adds a scoreboard so teammates can flame them"

    • @katsdraws
      @katsdraws Před rokem +2

      It’s actually so both teams can flame you lol

    • @snc237
      @snc237 Před rokem +4

      @@katsdraws I do love when both teams start flaming one person. Like if your team is calling you shit and then the other team starts randomly chirping you know there’s a problem

    • @FlamingNinjaBoi
      @FlamingNinjaBoi Před rokem

      @@snc237 Ah, but what if you're in low elo, where everyone is inherently bad and might think a certain strategy is bad when it's good, or vice versa?
      You might instead say 'you know you're doing it right'!

    • @RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers
      @RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers Před rokem +1

      Honestly, I've heard so much less of that in OW2. I'm convinced that most of the "So-and-so is doing fucking nothing! RabbleRabble!" garbage was actually the black holes trying to cover up their own suckitude.
      I really think there's been so much less because now that they can't say shit without someone just sighing "Scoreboard" at them.

    • @snc237
      @snc237 Před rokem +1

      @@takoi340 agreed

  • @draunt7
    @draunt7 Před rokem +75

    I remember the days when you would engage in psychological warfare to win your matches alongside the skill

    • @ReizokoRyu
      @ReizokoRyu Před rokem +4

      I've done this. It's really funny and effective when you cause the enemy team to start pointing the finger

    • @jerradfoulkrod7420
      @jerradfoulkrod7420 Před rokem +7

      Lol omg one of my friends spectated me and was trash talking me. I thought it was a friend on the enemy team spectating and trolling. I went sweaty on mercy just cauz my friend was trash talking. Some poor quick play enjoyer got all my fury on because I got told "Diffed" by a friend.
      The hate fuels me

    • @Seraph_op
      @Seraph_op Před rokem +2

      People still do this, I told people how I got team diffed two games in a row in match chat and the enemies had a Genji, Winston and Lucio diving me from the very beginning.

    • @NotJarrod
      @NotJarrod Před rokem +7

      Oh yes, the good old days when every 12 year old kid in CoD apparently was doing my mom.
      Truly the golden age of gaming.

    • @solitwar
      @solitwar Před rokem +13

      @@NotJarrod i remember that time, send my regards to your mother

  • @kevingriffith6011
    @kevingriffith6011 Před rokem +31

    Honestly, better social tools would go a long way to allowing people to avoid asshats. Guilds/clans/whatever, more support for full team queues, such like that. You get rid of that anonymity and the one-and-done nature of solo queue and I guarantee the toxicity goes down, because if you queue with a bunch of people from a group you're in and you make an ass of yourself, there's a good chance you'll see them again and again. People don't want to be that guy in the friend group nobody wants to play with.

    • @P_Workman
      @P_Workman Před rokem +1

      You seem to forget the enemy team exists

    • @kevingriffith6011
      @kevingriffith6011 Před rokem +4

      @@P_Workman Maybe your experience is different but I've never been as bothered by hostility from enemy players as I am by my own team. Maybe you are, but in that case you can guilt-free block them... or blizzard could add a setting to auto-mute all chat from the enemy team for you. Easy fix.
      (Edit: I got super dismissive with you there for a bit, sorry about that)

    • @P_Workman
      @P_Workman Před rokem

      @@kevingriffith6011 oh no I dont care. Me and my buddy always laugh when negative things start being said and start cracking jokes or joining in on it. But alot of teammates I've had ever since they added text chat to console have gotten super pissed or just threw all together because the enemy teams words.

    • @P_Workman
      @P_Workman Před rokem

      @@kevingriffith6011 my cousin is one who gets super pissed when anyone calls him out. Enemy team included

    • @kevingriffith6011
      @kevingriffith6011 Před rokem

      @@P_Workman Yeah. 100% the solution for enemy team toxicity is as easy as a button you click in your options menu to auto-mute chat from the enemy team.

  • @dravenbluesummers
    @dravenbluesummers Před rokem +1

    Flats had the biggest brain idea with a personal filter. That def should be in the game

  • @FlamingWolf855
    @FlamingWolf855 Před rokem +1

    They don’t need to ban words they need to look more closely at players who are toxic. That’s really all I can think of

  • @chicacorn_ow
    @chicacorn_ow Před rokem +12

    but having a voice line “skill issue?” isn’t? lol okay 😂

  • @joeshmoe2782
    @joeshmoe2782 Před rokem +13

    I do love that they said they removed medals to help with toxicity, but instead gave us the scoreboards which sorta confirms when the dps, tank, or "healer" diff is there lol

  • @JojoTheVulture
    @JojoTheVulture Před rokem +1

    The amount of times I have afked in spawn to flame someone who said "DPS Diff" is uncountable.

  • @DodgeThatAttack
    @DodgeThatAttack Před rokem +1

    What really hurts me is when I absolutely kick ass as support and someone says "tank diff ig" in chat in regard to us winning
    like support players really get no love :(

  • @Konyyaan
    @Konyyaan Před rokem +5

    Bro dva literally says skill issue 😂

  • @YellowEllo
    @YellowEllo Před rokem +4

    I have used diff in only team chat to show support for a teammate

  • @exzyyd392
    @exzyyd392 Před rokem +1

    Meanwhile Dva's voicelines:
    "That was cringe"
    "Skill issue"

  • @benjaminoechsli1941
    @benjaminoechsli1941 Před rokem +2

    3:30 I burst out laughing as Flats realized. 😂

  • @ivraDiaNCE
    @ivraDiaNCE Před rokem +49

    Whenever a 1-sided match ends, I type “x diff” for all the roles besides my own to make my teammates feel better lol

  • @maridomi8303
    @maridomi8303 Před rokem +7

    Damn it, now "Diff" sounds like a truck driver name or a beer brand

  • @potatolord5774
    @potatolord5774 Před rokem +1

    Cant wait to say "the difference of skill level between my tank and your tank is so incredibly large i cannot begin to describe how much more skilled at the video game my tank is in comparison to your tank" instead of "tank diff"

  • @DaniDoesVoices
    @DaniDoesVoices Před rokem

    Unrelated question, but if your friend doesn't let you play tank because they dont have aim assists in pc pool what do you do, btw he says "I wann play soldier but i dont have aim assists so you arent playing tqnk till you get back on console

  • @GentlemanNietzsche
    @GentlemanNietzsche Před rokem +3

    If they do anything at all about this they should take the same route they did with "gg ez".
    "Tank I am an insecure gentle flower."
    "DPS I need a hug."

  • @kokohaha3604
    @kokohaha3604 Před rokem +6

    Somebody got diffed lol

  • @zadok1337
    @zadok1337 Před rokem +1

    Xbox live game chat was the second best online game experience so far.

  • @biskotti4097
    @biskotti4097 Před rokem

    I had someone say in a comp match that it wasn't a dps diff, it was a dps chasm

  • @Mr___f
    @Mr___f Před rokem +3

    Yea about that. People are still dropping the N bomb left and right without getting banned so I really doubt Blizzard cares lmao

  • @monksss
    @monksss Před rokem +6

    The buying extra words is definitely something blizzard would do 😂

  • @MrGrombie
    @MrGrombie Před rokem +1

    “Oh no, someone stated something factual, they’re TOXIC”
    I grew up during the 360 days. If this is toxic, they wouldn’t survive gaming 10 years ago. 😂

  • @ganbitx2391
    @ganbitx2391 Před rokem

    Since the slang "Diff" is just a abbreviation of Difference or Differential are those words gonna be band also?

  • @dejOkh
    @dejOkh Před rokem +5

    Soooo if i say "Tank difference" it's all good, right ?

    • @kellywilson137
      @kellywilson137 Před rokem +1

      If They take the Genshin impact Route of censorship it will be "**** ****erence" Yes the Word "Tank" is Censored, I don't know why. I can only assume its a LGBT thing were a "Bear" is a Big gay guy, instead of an actual "Bear".

    • @dejOkh
      @dejOkh Před rokem

      @@kellywilson137 Wait, what ? XD

  • @kokohaha3604
    @kokohaha3604 Před rokem +9

    Only way to get rid of people telling you “you’re bad” is to get rid of communication lmao. Anyone able to direct this writer to the mute button?

  • @boblatte123
    @boblatte123 Před rokem

    1:00 to answer this question, any words meaning can be changed depending on how the public interprets it, for example if everyone thought oof meant kys, then thats what it would mean to most people

  • @QueenLizby
    @QueenLizby Před rokem +9

    I genuinely like the personal filter idea, but I ALSO feel like slurs and hate speech should get a harsher punishment than just a chat ban

    • @RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers
      @RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers Před rokem

      There's the very straight-forward question of why some are even allowed at all, regardless of filter setting.
      If someone is going to type out some slur in l33t or something, whatever, but what possible reason is there for allowing the common spellings of things like the n-slur? There's obviously no OW context where that's okay, so why is it even possible?

    • @terryfries
      @terryfries Před rokem

      @@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers bad filters, it can detect the n word and add up some flags towards the user but anything can be added into the chatbox to fool the filter, which means they need better filters lol

  • @Pebbeyt
    @Pebbeyt Před rokem +6

    I refuse to believe that isnt bait

  • @iHuntBearsWithMyFist
    @iHuntBearsWithMyFist Před rokem +11

    Flats idea for a personal ban list is great, it would help protect streamers from weirdos spamming ToS words

    • @Koozul
      @Koozul Před rokem +2

      holy shit that would be so nice, thats actually fucking genius. why havent any games implemented this yet???
      am i missing some horrible critical issue with this besides user error?

  • @TacomaParkour
    @TacomaParkour Před rokem +5

    I take Diff as more of a compliment. If diff means, "someone sucked" it always means "someone rocked" and I choose to look at it as the latter option.
    TLDR: Diff is a compliment

    • @mnetwork7635
      @mnetwork7635 Před rokem

      Came here to post exactly this. It's such a benign phrase compared to any number of things one can say to be toxic. It calls out somebody for being weak while simultaneously complimenting somebody for being that much better. Is it that much of a psychological attack to people when you are told you are not as good at the game as somebody else? All that means is there is room to improve..maybe you're not as good as you think you are; if some silver tank thinks he belongs in diamond but every single game he gets tank diffed, i'd like to think one day maybe a light will turn on in his brain that some improvements are needed.

  • @SupremeDalek225
    @SupremeDalek225 Před rokem

    3:37 The realization was just too perfect lol

  • @LordRaxyn
    @LordRaxyn Před rokem +5

    There is a benefit to targeting stuff like this, if a certain behavior comes under attack it does diminish it. It may move to a different phrase but the feeling that there are consequences is something that could make a real difference. The phrase "punish one, to correct one hundred" comes to mind. Target the behavior, even if that means using a phrase that is connected to it as a route.
    Don't know if that experience mentioned is specific to silver btw, I see it constantly in plat.

    • @Zorro33313
      @Zorro33313 Před rokem

      nah it's totally retaded. what you actually need to do is to raise people not like whining pussies getting offended by every virtual meaningless shit on the web.

  • @ayeitsdesy5770
    @ayeitsdesy5770 Před rokem +11

    saying "diff" is not even that toxic compared to other things ive heard or seen

    • @JrKengu
      @JrKengu Před rokem +3

      typing in a competitive game is not "toxic". it is straight up TROLLING. people should not be stopping to type in the chat for any reason other than strategy, and there is also a voice chat for that.

    • @CommunistPenguin-bw2mf
      @CommunistPenguin-bw2mf Před rokem

      @@JrKengu ur bad be quiet

    • @lawtamim
      @lawtamim Před rokem +1

      im ngl i never even thought of it as a toxic word

    • @yenkiwong7980
      @yenkiwong7980 Před rokem

      maybe if you're better player you'd be call something other than diff

    • @ayeitsdesy5770
      @ayeitsdesy5770 Před rokem

      @@yenkiwong7980 who said it i was getting called diff lol

  • @bkelso61
    @bkelso61 Před rokem

    It's wild. I've been in games where people will put something like "our DOS was trash" or "Our DPS only had x amount of elims". I know they're indirectly talking about me most of the time. I had someone message me over xbox with "You wanna tell me why you only had 2k dmg?" I told him before he was ready to chew me out that I know I was trash, I just wanted to play the game with my homies and they were in comp att. I don't take that stuff seriously because I know myself that I need to get better. I don't go back and forth with people in a game I'm not highly skilled in. I simply take it as a reminder to get better.

  • @masonfoster7954
    @masonfoster7954 Před rokem +1

    You think this applies to differential too cause I use that sometimes too

  • @tales6671
    @tales6671 Před rokem +4

    I was told, by my own team, "Kiriko diff" in a game where the enemy team didn't even have a Kiriko. Still to this day I'm unsure if they were just dumb or if that was the sickest burn in history.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Před rokem +1

      It _could_ be interpreted as "We won/lost because we had a Kiriko, and the enemy did not," I suppose.

    • @itkenreiza9841
      @itkenreiza9841 Před rokem +1

      It's a burn saying the fact that you were playing the character of kiriko meant that they lost due to not having enough 'x' (healing or dmg generally implying it's a bad character)

  • @merry_whatever
    @merry_whatever Před rokem +14

    The other day me and the other support were trying our hardest to keep everyone alive and our ROADHOG felt the need to comment that we lost because we had "trash healers". The other support was like WHAT?? but I just laughed and moved on cus its rlly not a big deal. We all knew he wasn't doing shit the whole time so its very funny lol

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Před rokem +5

      A Roadhog complaining about heals will never not be funny. All those gas fumes rotted their brain, I guess. 😂

    • @zir456
      @zir456 Před rokem +3

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 those Roadhog really take take a breather to next level

    • @tgs5725
      @tgs5725 Před rokem

      Bro if I ever lose its because everyone in the game but me. Don't take offense to it.

    • @mangshu21
      @mangshu21 Před rokem +1

      ah hog players lmao.. they been throwing games since 2019

  • @SolRojo-ci4lz
    @SolRojo-ci4lz Před 7 měsíci

    I just got an insta suspension when my ranked match ended and I typed dps gap

  • @johnmetzakis2910
    @johnmetzakis2910 Před rokem

    how long before in game chat and coms are just removed,

  • @soulayr
    @soulayr Před rokem +3

    In most of my games the "diff" is being used in a joking way. It happens rather rarely that it's really used to call out someone.
    There are so many more things that are actual issues to be addressed. Even if people actually mean that, it's NOT toxic. Toxic is if people insult the shit out of you, if they tell you to commit suicide, say racist things or similar hard things.
    People are abusing the word toxic and it's horrible.

  • @gave312
    @gave312 Před rokem +6

    If they ban Diff I’m just gonna start saying Support Skill Issue

  • @Jgt612
    @Jgt612 Před rokem +1

    “Diff serves no purpose in Overwatch 2 beyond trying to make other players feel bad about how they’re playing”
    Someone who has never had any constructive criticism in their life.

  • @xclonecommander
    @xclonecommander Před rokem

    The game journalists expect everything *bad* to be censored but have no actual idea of what really bad stuff is happening

  • @YellowEllo
    @YellowEllo Před rokem +4

    You dunno toxicity till you have played league

  • @NoctuaOW
    @NoctuaOW Před rokem +5

    I've never been very sensitive abt homophobia but hearing flats be passionately not homophobic got me like damn 🥺

    • @mocagami
      @mocagami Před rokem +2

      I mean, even if you're not sensitive to it, it's still good to speak out against it. However much you might get blasted for saying anything is nothing compared to how much that kind of thing affects the people it's aimed directly towards after all.

  • @TheReaper1497
    @TheReaper1497 Před rokem +1

    The text filter is an amazing idea, would be great

  • @andrewkeith80
    @andrewkeith80 Před rokem

    I find that because I am unsure of the ranks of my teammates , its hard to tell if the match maker is matching us due to rank , or just because it is matching low queue times. I play as gold 1 , but had 2 games with a pharah that could not float. Player got flamed hard, but I reckon , that player was not gold. Rather , match maker is just filling a DPS slot.

  • @elkosins1686
    @elkosins1686 Před rokem +4

    I just wanna say “diff” only works when someone else says it
    If your playing tank and dominate a match and you type tank diff that just makes you look stupid

  • @brbdogking7643
    @brbdogking7643 Před rokem +3

    They shouldn't Ban words but I would love to see them do more things like when people type "Easy" and it turns to "Mommy say people my age shouldn't suck their thumb"

  • @gavenmace7779
    @gavenmace7779 Před rokem

    i thought i had Terraria running in the background, love the seemingly random background music

  • @The_Chrim
    @The_Chrim Před rokem +1

    Banning words won't fix this problem, but no matter the outcome of a huge amounts of my games lately many of them end with someone on one of the teams saying "___ diff". Every time I see it I roll my eyes no matter who it was directed at and more than half the time it seems completely random what roll gets called out. This is especially frustrating when it was a fun close game only for it to be soured right at the end.

  • @Urboyyycarlos
    @Urboyyycarlos Před rokem +3

    They already shadow banned "GG Too EZ" in pubs/ranked
    So you gotta say it backwards ez gg or some variation of it.
    It automatically changes your message to "I'm trying to be a good player" etc etc,it autofills to some random and "safe" message

  • @aplox6998
    @aplox6998 Před rokem +5

    Imagine being a "journalist" and going mad about the word "diff" in chat and write an "article" about that

    • @lemontonk
      @lemontonk Před rokem +1

      Then going on “CZcams” and writing a “comment” about it after hearing a “video” by flats on your “screen” and getting “upset” by an “article”

    • @mangshu21
      @mangshu21 Před rokem

      @@lemontonk i think someone diffed you and you're salty about it

  • @claain_
    @claain_ Před rokem

    I honest to god thought the phrase "[hero] diff" was meant as a compliment, until I got told otherwise...

  • @bunnyvv
    @bunnyvv Před rokem

    they have a section titled "what does diff mean" and they don't even say it stands for difference

  • @viken3368
    @viken3368 Před rokem +3

    Just me who feel "diff" reduces more serious toxicity. Like instead of making long rants and very specific attacks, people just say "x diff" which is easy to ignore

  • @KibethSE
    @KibethSE Před rokem +3

    There will always be something else for them to complain about, best to just stop catering to people who at this point probably just need chat disabled entirely

  • @davidesabetta2929
    @davidesabetta2929 Před rokem

    honestly the best thing is to turn off the chat completely until you're not tilted anymore, worked for me

  • @undeadkiller7299
    @undeadkiller7299 Před rokem

    I once had an opposing tank say "Tank diff damn gg" like it's not ALWAYS negative lol

  • @zeaig
    @zeaig Před rokem +3

    Diff might not inherently be "toxic", but I have definitely seen it used in ways where it could be considered toxic behavior. It's a way of calling someone out for being either good or terrible in comparison to how others have played, some people tend to take it to the extreme.
    That said, before the word Diff was even a thing people would literally just directly call you out for being bad by name, so really not much has changed its just a fad word you see a lot making the phrase stand out. I personally hate the phrase just because I think it sounds dumb to say, it's never really bothered me though.

  • @mikez4204
    @mikez4204 Před rokem +3

    People should simply try not getting so upset about things. Think about all the things YOU yourself can control when you might be getting frustrated with someone else's language or behavior. Stop relying on daddy Blizzard or anyone else to swoop in and save the day. Mute people that are obnoxious, turn off match chat, or walk away from the game for a bit. This is now a free to play team based hero shooter that is getting shitty levels of attention from the developers, so you should expect now more than ever for people to trend toward toxicity.

    • @tatuvarvemaa5314
      @tatuvarvemaa5314 Před rokem +1

      Well said. People need to learn the skill of letting go. A deep breath and a sight, before you erase your responce from the match chat and just mute the person annoying you. Its not easy, but it does help in the long run.

    • @mikez4204
      @mikez4204 Před rokem +1

      @@tatuvarvemaa5314 It doesn't start out being easy, but I would argue that it is a behavioral and repetition thing that makes it easier as you go on.

    • @tatuvarvemaa5314
      @tatuvarvemaa5314 Před rokem

      @@mikez4204 Presicely.

  • @austinturner1995
    @austinturner1995 Před rokem

    Why aren’t we allowed to avoid more than 3 people and why only for 7 days?

  • @iHateHandlesGetRidOfThis

    i tried playing overwatch again recently, flex queued because i miss not needing to select my role before a match, got tank, picked roadhog, enemy rein said "tank diff" after killing me once and we won the match later on.