LG OLED C2 42 inch as a reference display for filmmakers
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2022
- In this video I'll share my experiences using OLED TV as desktop computer monitor / reference monitor for editing and color grading.
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Thanks, good to know. Going to get mine during Black Friday!
Great video ! Could you perhaps make a video about the LG in a 10 bit pipeline - what settings do you use to accurately color grade etc
Man!
Thank you for this video. I have been reading about LGC242 since last year. Lots of typical CZcamsr reviews - that is video game features, "productuvity monitor". I'm going to totally use it in Resolve during color grading. There wasn't any candid YT video that talked about Apple Displays or Apple XDR. I even considered Apple Displays for a while, but I would have to buy two pieces .. And once I was not satisfied with the assembly and color grading on two monitors.
thank you again!
I'm ordering this TV today!
Will you share your exact settings?
Have you calibrated it?
After using a CX 55 for 2 years for gaming, I’m finally making the switch to a C2 42 for productivity. Hopefully it goes well
How's the transition? I'm in the market for a video editing OLED
Really interesting review, thanks!
Can you also talk about viewing distances and image retention in a later update video ? Thanks awesome vid !
80cm
Do you grade using an output card or directly in the GUI?
Thank you for the review! I once again made sure that expensive non-oled displays are no longer needed
Glad I could help!
Awesome video Hugo !!
A big thanks 🙏
Recently got the 42 C2 as a monitor for video & photo editing. Any recommendations on color calibration for the OLED ??
Second that. All the ways I tried don’t really work
Would really appreciate a recommendation to this as well!
Thank you so much for sharing! how do you do hardware calibration?
Hi Hugo, how are you. About the C-2, I understand there is an update to fix the auto dimming (even though its still not the best), my question is, will it still be able to turn off auto dimming with the service remote, or is that not possible anymore after the update?
Maybe you could make a setup guide video showing everything you need to turn off and like how you gotta put it into 'pc mode' for low latency etc. I think I've done all that on my own but I don't know what colour profile to use and also like theres some sliders like which aren't at 50% or at 0 so I can't tell where is the neutral position.
did you use any external caliibrator like xrite or spider to calibrate the display?
The LG C3 42" 4K HDR Smart OLED evo TV would be the newest version out? I think the new Mac Studio has HDMI 2.1 now, would it need a special cable or the supplied cable with the LG would suffice.
Great video, Hugo! After a few months of use, could you update us regarding any issues, especially if you’ve noticed any burn-in on the screen? I’m concerned about using OLED for productivity and photo/video editing apps, with a persistent interface, which might end up burning into the panel. Thanks!
Haven’t had any issues, still prefer this monitor
What do you think about the new range of QD OLEDs that are coming out? Would you still go for the c2? or would you go for the newer QD's?
This sounds like the way to go for me. I am coming from a 'matte finish' screen with no glass in front, and I'm assuming this TV has glass. Do you use yours as is or is there a way to counteract the glare from it? Thank You!
I personal dont like matte finish. Prefer glossy
hi! do you connect it directly to you mac? or do you use an I/O device like a decklink?
Would you say this is suitable for grading when calibrated and ABL turned off? Seeing lots of different opinions about it being suitable for HDR grading or not, curious about your take?
I use it for grading
Hey Hugo! Are you Apple to tell me what settings you used to set it up for color grading? Trying to figure out which color gamut I need to use for proper color grading with this OLED.
Thanks!
Filmmakers mode
Very informative video, thank you so much. Ive ordered an Apple Studio M1Max and looking for a great HDR monitor. The LGC2 does look fantastic, the other option is the Samsung 43" QN90B Neo QLED not sure which one to get, same price. I mainly record how to videos, screen recording, edit in Davinci Resolve 18 and FCPX, DCI p3 accuracy is importmant for me, i do pro photos too and videos for clients. Would you go for the LGC2 or the new Samsung ?
id go for OLED. it can be LG or Sony. QLED is cool but not quiet as good as oled
I Chose the ASUS Rog Swift PG42UQ for Davinci
What are your thoughts about this tv for Lightroom classic and photoshop? Have you used it for photo editing?
Absolute pleasure
Great info, do you do any sort of calibration, Or is it straight out the box
I calibrated at first, nothing much changed. I reset to default setting and compared to my reference monitor and they were pretty close. So I’d say straight out of the box you’re in the ballpark
So when you're in desktop and doing regular computer tasks you're in the filmmaker mode? When I flicked into the filmmaker mode it looked super yellow to me. So I keep mine in 'standard.' But Idk what to do to get the most accurate colour out of it.
Filmmmaker mode is allegedly more accurate but when I compare it to my iphone 13 pro max it is definitely more yellow so i'm not sure.
Great review. You said that you upgraded from the M1 MacBook Pro to the new one cause the screen was better? I was of the understanding that the screen between M1 and M2 is unchanged and they are both XDR? Is that right?
Yes, the screen is the same
Would be nice if you went over what settings to turn off, which mode to be in ect. and the actual calibration process. There are not any youTube videos out there discussing the process for using this particular model for calibration for a reference monitor. We are stuck with explanations of older models.
I used previous model explaining about setting because they are pretty much same. I found factory calibration in filmmakers mode pretty accurate
@@HugoWill can you please point us to that video you used as a guide? Also, is there a similar but smaller tv (like 32 inches)
@@AndresArosemena if you want a 32 inch go with the Pro Art from Asus.
@@HugoWill I’m looking for this video as well
How to calibrate LG CX OLED TV czcams.com/video/T-oYDNbnVXQ/video.html
Hi Hugo. Are you work with HDR video on your OLED? How it works with that? Thank you for video, it was nice.
It’s perfect specifically if you need hdr
Hello, I have a technical question before purchasing, since I also work on a Mac system, I would like to know how you connected it via the blackmagic 3g monitor or directly? if so, how? This information is very important to me and have you also calibrated the LG OLED TV?
How to calibrate lg c2 42 sir
Awesome video! what settings are you using inside the c2?
Filmmakers mode
What is the difference with the 65" used as a reference? Does the size make a difference when using as a reference monitor? I want to use my 42 BenQ to grade and use the C2 65 as a second reference and large display. Thoughts?
Pixel density can be an issue on 65 inch
Did you have to calibrate it?
So the 48” LG oled A2 is on sale for $550 right now. Is it worth getting for video editing???
any idea how to display 4K 120 Hz with Macbook Pro M1 Max on LG C2 Oled 42" ??
As far as I know it’s not possible. The hdmi port isn’t capable of outputting that much
Hey, can you put a link to the 42" display please? They have different naming in different regions thus I'm searching for a product code
I think the A90K Sony have a semi matte screen and looks amazing.
Are you using a IO box for the lg oled monitor?
just HDMI
Lg cx oled hdr tv as secondary display to my benqpd2706u hdr wide colour gamut 99srgb rec709 monitor can we get Hollywood range colours to my theater films pls say
Дякую! How often would you recommend calibrating it? Do you hire a professional to do that or can a mortal do it?
@@ThePopenko it looked pretty close to my calibrated monitor straight out of box in filmmakers mode. So I didn’t do calibration. And honestly for my workflow, light shift even if there is one would not bother me. Most important for me is level of black so I can correct exposure that can be done only with monitor that can show true black, which OLED screens do best
@@HugoWill thank you. Definitely looks enticing compared to how much reference monitors cost
I think this is a great solution for those who use video editing software for content creation as well as some color grading. I like this idea alot and feel this would be a great fit for me as well to go with my Asus ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI motherboard i just got to build a PC from scratch. Thank you very much for making this video. All I kept seeing were videos on the C2 with gaming this and gaming that. Not all of us game with PC's some of use use them for work. 😅
finally the OLED video editors have their say. For me the ASUS ROG Swift PG42UQ was shortlisted. is this suitable? with uniform brightness, 98% DCI-P3, true 10-bit, Delta E
Thanks for sharing
What is the model exactly of the monitor your reccomend??
the one in the title
@@HugoWill just C2 ?
Usually there’s more numbers
Ok thanks
@@gaboguerra950 yes it’s LG oled c2
Is it easy to turn the ABL off? How do you do it?
You’ll need service remote. Can be bought from amazon
I HAD 2 OLEDS BEFORE , BUT BOTH HAD BURN IN AFTER 1 OR 2 YEARS! ARE YOU SURE YOU WILL NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT ?
So far no issues at all
some guy on CZcams was saying i needed a raspberry pi to generate a pattern becasue the internal pattern generator of the lg c2 at the moment isn't working? he was talking about calibrating it with lg home calman software, is this true? I've tried contacting lg directly and they gave me a bunch of "tech specialist numbers" just to get ignored by all of them.... , please is there any way of knowing? im not tryng too drop 300 on a rasberry pie for a pattern but i really need it then i guess i have to.
He's correct. LG needs to update the firmware to the IPG to work with Calman. It works with my CX, does not with C2 yet. That said, it's out of the box accuracy is virtually indistinguishable from my calibrated CX.
@@saintmarkspicturesllc3592 yes it’s complicated.
M1 macbook had an XDR display as well, no?
From the 14” m1 Pro upwards, yes. Not the 13” M1 Macbooks. Not sure about the M2 Air and up.
what about only 8bits from macbook hdmi? windows gets up to 12bit through hdmi 2.1
Why is it 8bit?
I can’t do 120fps but I’m pretty sure it does send 10bit
@@HugoWill only 8bit, click on magic remote green button for 10times you will se info about video, 60Hz FIXED 3840 x 2160P@60 YCBCR444 8b TM
@@HugoWill on windows you will get RGB 444 with 12bits OMG
I don't get it, you need the control to wake up?
Are the 48 or 55" as good for color grading?
They are all good. Too me just felt a bit too large and pixel density wasn’t as good as in 42inch
Are you still using this setup? Notice any eye strain or headaches you didn't previously have with a traditional monitor?
yes, still using it and it's great. no eye strain at all.
Thank you. Do you have suggestions for best practices for color calibrating?
@@HugoWill Check this one out
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INNOCN 32" OLED 4K Computer Monitor, UHD (3840 x 2160) Professional Monitor. Word on the street the JOLED is the same as this model LG 32EP950-B 32” UltraFine OLED Pro 4K Monitor
why arent you using a monitor for the interface and saving the OLED for just the picture?
There is a workaround for the LG C2 to turn it on by waking up the computer. Linus from Linus tech tips figured it out.
Wow. How to do that?
@@HugoWill Try out LGTV companion software
Hi. Can you please check the exact distanse of 2 stands for lg42? Some says it's 720mm, some it's 710mm. Mayby because of their thickness...So can you tell the distance between middles of stands? I believe it should be 715mm or something. Thanks in advance!
If you're worried about fitting it on a desk, remember it can be VESA mounted too
if you use like a interface monitor on davinci, you going to cause a damage on the time, Oled tv are great for Reference monitor, (is not good keep a image or whatever on screen for so much time), also the color of the interface is SRGB, is not a clean feed on rec709 or HDR.
As good as anyone says C2 is as monitor, until it has "display port" input it will not get widespread adoption!
There is some seriously misleading information in this video I just want people to be aware of. This display can be in no way used to grade HDR deliverables. It cannot display reference Dolby Vision. You need minimum of 1000 nits peak sustained to be able to accuratley grade DV HDR. This display tops out at around 700-750 nits. Which is far off the mark in the way of accuratley working with HDR material. The "Dolby Vision" you'll see when viewing content on this display is at best the 600nit trim pass a colorist will do when prepparing deliverables. These displays are good however for client displays and the like in an SDR setting when properly calibrated and using a deciated video clean feed output. They calibrate well, with an around 9000 point calibration being able to yield results of a delta e of .9 which could be considered "reference". Anything lower than 2 is considered good, while anything below 1 could be considered "reference". Another great thing is their ability to internally store a 3D calibration LUT, which takes away the need of using external LUT boxes.
I'm not the first one to use an OLED TV as reference monitor. You can look it up yourself, but many huge color grading bay and colorist use OLED simply because it's not aways about brightness, contrast ratio is way more important in my experience, and seeing true blacks is just way more important than seeing over 1000 nits. there some TVs and monitors that can do way more than 1000 nits but their black are just milky and you can't really judge the darkness just by looking at the screen without scopes. and by the way, this OLED TV officially states that it supports Dolby Vision and quiet honestly it feels to be true, unlike apple XDR display that is way brighter, but doesn't really support it. You probably should try it yourself, before blaming someone in misleading info based on simply theory. I'm giving an actual practical experience feedback.
@@HugoWill So having a firm grasp on theory is pretty essential in coloring, I think any colorist worth their salt will tell you the same thing. Also, this TV cannot be used for Dolby Vision mastering. You can even look on their site yourself. I'm a Dolby Vision Certified Professional and had to take their course on this stuff, so I'd say I'm a relativley authoratative source on the matter. This TV cannot accuratley produce the SMPTE ST 2084 transfer function, which is required to create content for Dolby Vision. You are correct about OLEDs, the contrast ratio is what makes them appealing, which is why you will see them in coloring suites as client monitors or some colorists will use them for SDR work. There are even a handful of OLEDs that are actually used for professional Dolby Vision master, like the Sony BVMHK310, but even those are being phased out for Dual Layer LCDs. However, saying that you can master Dolby Vision is strictly untrue. Per Dolby's own specifications, a mastering display for Dolby Vision must be able to produce 1000 nits peak sustained brightness and be able to display the P3 D65 or BT2020 color spaces. If I walked into suite for an HDR mastering for one of my clients and asked the post house to use an LG C2 because I felt that it reproduced Dolby Vision accuratley, I'd get laughed out of the room. Somethings are just objectivley true, and objectivley false.
@@BalloonCandyFun so an LCD with above 1000 Nits would be a better choice for Dolby vision over this OLED ?
@@HugoWill Yes! Even Asus has some displays in their ProArt line out that can actually be used for just that purpose! Now it's not as simple as that, you have to consider the amount of dimming zones to avoid ghosting as these are Mini LED displays (like the Pro Display XDR), and make sure it can reproduce the P3 D65 or Rec2020 color spaces, but they don't break the bank like having to drop $30k on something like the Sony BVM. Sorry if I came off as aggressive or negative in any way. There's just a lot of misinformation out there about HDR and it can really confuse people's idea of what actual HDR is. This stuff is complicated and it confused the heck out of me for awhile until I had to learn it all for some projects. If you or anyone is interested in learning more I highly suggest checking out Dolby's info on this stuff.
@@BalloonCandyFun so you say, all you need for HDR is brightness?
I’m sorry, but I have Sony BVM Serries monitor. And the whole reason why I was so impressed with this OLED is because the image was almost identical.
I had bright LCD with brightness over 1000 nits, but even they look miserable to Sony BVM, and this LG oled is the only one who came incredibly close.
It doesn’t have HDR plus that’s Samsung that has that …. But an interesting video thanks 🙏
Very few projects need that. If you're a pro color grader doing work for big streamers like Netflix, Hulu etc then yes you need a better reference monitor. But if you're a color grader or a filmmaker working on 1080p HD res output workflow then you'll be fine. HDR is still not the standard and most distributors want 1080p Rec 709 deliverables.
It was not terribly useful. Is it connected directly to your computer? How is it configured in the operating system? Do you have to use a Blackmagic box between computer and OLED? How is Resolve configured? What is your video footage that you edit? With what is the OLED display calibrated? If you are using it for HDR editing, you should know all this, so tell us!
How are you hyping this so much and how do you work on this professionally when you dont even use a box in between and take direct hdmi output. No lut adjustment in TV, this model is going nuts with the brightness adjustment that can not be fully switched off even in the service menu... I dont get it.
Did you even watch the video or do you not have enough brain cells to understand his point? He has a 10k Sony reference monitor which he compares it to with the result being highly accurate.
@@bluerabbit1236 i watched it twice and bought the TV so yeah, thanks for your valued input, now stfu
42" it's to small for movies and entertainment!! For that money i choose all day LG C1 55"!!!
I hope you get WBE panel!!! Otherwise you pay for EVO and don't get it!!!
that isn't the purpose of a 42" in his review..... It is for desktop use and close up. It is a niche market, the next OLED panel monitor at 32 inch is by LG for$3,844. He got a 10 grand Sony reference monitor for color grading, this man knows what he is doing for his profession.
@@greenclydefrog I'm actually using a 55 inch C2 close up, i think it's a great size TBH
@ So cool. Is the pixel density still great on the 55?
@@alfredknodler540 yeah, the software I use, like Blender and Resolve, has tiny interface elements, so I like seeing them nice and big. If I want to play a game or whatever I roll the chair back a few feet 🤣
@@alfredknodler540 Also I think age is a factor, it's hard to describe but my low light vision and my ability to see smaller text has worsened in the last decade, which is quite common i think. some people would find it too big.
TV s have great speakers???? You have zero credibility.