What is There in Birthday? You Can Have It Later - Wigwe's Family Shuns Church From Attending Burial

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  • čas přidán 6. 03. 2024
  • City of David Parish of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) in Lagos will not play any visible role in the funeral rites of the late group chief executive officer (GCEO) of Access Holdings Plc, Herbert Wigwe, who died on board a chopper in the US about three weeks ago.
    Wigwe, who was an active member of the influential City of David Parish of RCCG, died alongside his wife, first son, a friend and former chairman of NGX, Abimbola Ogunbanjo, and crew members, in the air accident. #naijaentertainmentnews
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  • @xoliswasolombela7631
    @xoliswasolombela7631 Před 4 měsíci +37

    I don't even celebrate my birthday yet I'll be 70 yrs old this year but nothing excites me instead I'll be praying and thank God for keeping me this far.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

    • @busolaamos9332
      @busolaamos9332 Před 4 měsíci

      Truth be said, no sane human being should attend that church ever again. The pastor does not worship God. Three people died in one family, yet you celebrate your birthday in that magnitude as if nothing happened. This shows how inhumane she is.

  • @francisadeyemi7314
    @francisadeyemi7314 Před 4 měsíci +45

    The fact remains that we have high expectations of pastors, which is why people are disappointed. #respect #humanity

    • @mayowaoyedokun9828
      @mayowaoyedokun9828 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I agree with you 💯 , even the Bible placed high requirement on who is to be an elder ) deacon

    • @chukwuaguchinasa1082
      @chukwuaguchinasa1082 Před 4 měsíci +4

      We are not wrong to have high expectations of men and women of God

    • @francisadeyemi7314
      @francisadeyemi7314 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@chukwuaguchinasa1082, you are not wrong to have high expectations of your pastors, but its not appropriate cos they are human too. Man we always be man.

  • @indigoowen7753
    @indigoowen7753 Před 4 měsíci +109

    I remember when I lost my husband, I was 34. my best friend got into to a relationship with my brother in law the day my husband passed . They were flaunting themselves infront of me. She met him the day my husband died and according to them they fell in love. She came to show me her engagement ring few week after my husband died and they planned wedding few months later. My late husband mother supported the relationship and planned the wedding. My husband was 38 in a couple of the months the family was planning wedding. Of course I did not attend the wedding n his mum fought me over it . Insisting I must attend the wedding with my children. I said never I’m mourning . My best friend went around telling everyone that I was unhappy that she’s getting married. Imagine like I will marry my bro in law . I was heartbroken I was grieving n yet all this was going on. Indeed who is grieving looks at who grieves with them. People are wicked and insensitive . The lack of emotional intelligence is alarming even amongst bro n sis in Christ . If I was the one that moved on so fast they will say I killed my husband .

    • @kemisjourney
      @kemisjourney Před 4 měsíci +7

      I am so sorry about your loss and that you had to go through that in the midst of grief ❤

    • @Drizzle.drizzle
      @Drizzle.drizzle Před 4 měsíci +5

      Yea, it's childish and silly what they did but you could have been the bigger person, simply go to the wedding and understand the lady isn't your best friend and move on.

    • @kehindesherif4593
      @kehindesherif4593 Před 4 měsíci +1

      😢😢😢

    • @indigoowen7753
      @indigoowen7753 Před 4 měsíci

      @@kemisjourney thank you dear it was tough but I thank God for all

    • @indigoowen7753
      @indigoowen7753 Před 4 měsíci +56

      @@Drizzle.drizzle have you ever lost a spouse???? I don’t need to prove myself to anyone. I don’t do bigger or smaller person I do myself and I am emotionally intelligent.

  • @REALGISTWITHCATHY
    @REALGISTWITHCATHY Před 4 měsíci +6

    I love this muslim presenter so much ,i have listened to her views on issues ,she is very very reasonable .

  • @ativiejonathan3705
    @ativiejonathan3705 Před 4 měsíci +33

    Life's not about the people who act true to your face, it's about who remain true friend behind your back.The pastor could be envious of them, when they were alive..

  • @Blessedchild2020
    @Blessedchild2020 Před 4 měsíci +15

    I have been expecting you ladies at the view to talk about this issue. Thank you so much Nyma for hitting the nail on the head. Very insensitive people.

  • @adebisiolayinka5128
    @adebisiolayinka5128 Před 4 měsíci +13

    Am not related to Herbert wigwe family, but its still sound as a shock to me because is as if a whole family is wiped out😢, think of the condition of the old parents, the rest of the children😢, siblings of both couples oh noo......
    I remember when my elder sis lost her husband meeeee it wasn't easy to lost someone at tender age.
    Pastor Siju iluyomade should have divert the birthday to CSR program if at all perishable items has been prepared for the birthday.

  • @Bunmi-us7vz
    @Bunmi-us7vz Před 4 měsíci +8

    Well said Nina and God bless you rightly grant you more wisdom.❤💯

  • @samueltaiwo5679
    @samueltaiwo5679 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you nyma....your re very correct

  • @ojuoluwanwoo
    @ojuoluwanwoo Před 4 měsíci +38

    This birthday is how to know a man that is being controlled by his wife and a wife who have no respect for her husband. The Iluyomades on my mind

  • @SanniTemilade-mz2nn
    @SanniTemilade-mz2nn Před 4 měsíci +5

    Very well said Nimah. You nailed it. Am so so gutted at their behavior 😢

  • @rosaadeola6988
    @rosaadeola6988 Před 4 měsíci +21

    Canality has over shadowed spirituality. Those who are supposed to be the organisers are now the absentees. Don't ever kill yourself for any church. There is no record for your services. My husband was also a victim. Thank God for those who are standing with the family now. They are the real friends.

    • @emmanuelchidozie9004
      @emmanuelchidozie9004 Před 4 měsíci +1

      We can't judge ... U no why??? Life it's not sure ... What if the lady never makes it to her next year birthday??? We will say "ohh and we were all blaming her for celebrating her birthday". .... Birthday is significantly personal day ...

    • @king-alphonsojallah3394
      @king-alphonsojallah3394 Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@emmanuelchidozie9004 Canal had taking over some of u with no scriptures back. If u have Noa idea about topic rest and stop taking ignorantly

    • @Chainbreak2023
      @Chainbreak2023 Před 4 měsíci +4

      She could have celebrated still, but could have postponed it to a later date after the burial ceremony and mourn with the family as a church that has lost a great family member. But lately we are all selfish and think about ourselves only! I know life goes on, life doesn’t stop because someone close to the church passes away, but she could have waited and toned it down Abeg!
      I hear he contributed a lot to the church and an active member

    • @rosaadeola6988
      @rosaadeola6988 Před 4 měsíci +3

      So celebrating and not making it to her next birthday is of significant to you than a spiritual mother mourning the loss of her spiritual children. Not 1,2 but 3 souls !! Haaba!

    • @rosaadeola6988
      @rosaadeola6988 Před 4 měsíci

      @@king-alphonsojallah3394 first aid foremost, you are an illiterate from your words. Two, you do not know the scriptures. Bcos there was no where Jesus attended a birthday party. But he mourned Lazarus death. You attend city of David for your stomach only. So you are canal.

  • @jesuschristislord7314
    @jesuschristislord7314 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Well said! Very insensitive lots 😢

  • @omotolapeter2843
    @omotolapeter2843 Před 4 měsíci +21

    We should be sensitive. If a pastor didn't sympathise with the family of their late member then who will. She should have done the Birthday but in a more modest way as a pastor who has just lost a family in their congregation. The death of Herbert, his wife and eldest child created a very deep pain. For me celebrating the Birthday is not the issue but the manner in which it was celebrated.

    • @azpersonal
      @azpersonal Před 4 měsíci +2

      Or postpone it sincerely

    • @josephesezobor7743
      @josephesezobor7743 Před 4 měsíci

      My brother some pastors wife na war, wen life dey plenty birthday dey to celebrate.

  • @egobienose8968
    @egobienose8968 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I say it Dey for who Dey for you.. human beings are unpredictable.. people use you for the benefit of what Dey will benefit from you..

  • @nkechimgbada7028
    @nkechimgbada7028 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Sincerely, I list expected such from the pastor. What is birthday abeg

  • @rolithompson2985
    @rolithompson2985 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Just pretend to be dead by just closing your eyes, you will be shocked to see your enemies were so close to you , even those in church…..Very sad that 3 family members perished with their bodies burned and not even buried yet, petty young thing, money is nothing was dancing like David danced….. That is Wickedness in the highest order…. What an evil friend Tony Elume was to Wigwes with a friend like Tony , you need no enemies…..Very shameful people indeed…..

  • @adeoyeoluwadeko2672
    @adeoyeoluwadeko2672 Před 4 měsíci

    Well said Nyma

  • @benb4481
    @benb4481 Před 4 měsíci +24

    lol Morayo and shying away from conversations regarding redeem church 🤣

  • @niiade515
    @niiade515 Před 4 měsíci +1

    ....always wondered if there were there no elders in the church to have raised an objection or subtly advised on the need to hold on such celebration.

  • @susan8576
    @susan8576 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I was shocked to see the birthday party. Kai! I would more than exclude them from the burial. I didnt know Wigwe's family, but i felt it was insensitive and scriptural.
    The bible says, "weep with those who weep..."

  • @stellamaduagwu5992
    @stellamaduagwu5992 Před 4 měsíci +4

    The lady that did birthday will someday be paid back in her own coin

  • @jacquelyneyawa5800
    @jacquelyneyawa5800 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Vanity upon vanity. The pastor and his wife did wrong. Aligned disinvite.

    • @emmanuelchidozie9004
      @emmanuelchidozie9004 Před 4 měsíci +1

      She should have celebrated it next year ryt?? ... Only God can't tell if we will be alive to celebrate next year ...no one knows tomorrow... Let her celebrate .. many people won't get to see next year

  • @adelayoadigun4891
    @adelayoadigun4891 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Am a Christian but what they portray their is just an act of I don't care. Of not for anything, a whole family's significants wiped out in one day, father,mother and a first son. And as their shepherd you feel not touched to cancel whatever celebration you have organized???? Haha even if they are just my neighbour sef, e reach to cancel if at all that will be my honour of them. So then where is the love God is talking about? Where is the love the church is preaching? Common that is just the height of insensitivity I have seen in a long time. Just a single family lose so much under your nose as A shephard is good enough reason to wail in your secret place. Haaaaaa the attitude mean e no concern me. You are partying at exact time your sheep is wailing????? Haaaaaa

  • @ebimene7
    @ebimene7 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Why even celebrate birthday? Everyday should be a birthday. I grew up in the village and we never celebrated birthdays. Most do not even know the exact day of their birth and no one was less happy because of birthday. Again, birthdays are not African culture. Birthdays are for prideful people.

    • @Chainbreak2023
      @Chainbreak2023 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Tell me about it! We copy copy too much from the oyinbo! Most kids born in the rural areas don’t know what birthday is especially on the whole of Africa, is not part of the culture

    • @sundaytobby8300
      @sundaytobby8300 Před 4 měsíci +1

      People like me, I'm 39 i was almost 20 before I know my true birthday date.

  • @sirsupremewan5445
    @sirsupremewan5445 Před 4 měsíci

    Jesus said let the dead bury the dead meaning don't put too much attention on the dead. Keeping someone as enemy because you feel they were insensitive for celebrating a 70th birthday 7 days after the death of 3 persons is simply entitlement mentality. Even if na your money build the church, As long they not responsible for the deaths they owe nothing to the family. You have no right to determine how long anyone is to stay sober because of your loss.

  • @onyinyeakachukwueze3058
    @onyinyeakachukwueze3058 Před 4 měsíci

    Anyways Tony Elumelu was at the Night of Tributes and he also gave a video tribute.

  • @alexanderroyce1
    @alexanderroyce1 Před 4 měsíci

    You are right insensitive pastor

  • @danobaka6172
    @danobaka6172 Před 4 měsíci

    That was bad of the Pastor and his wife. Even the Bible enjoyed us to mourn with those that mourn.

  • @nwananka
    @nwananka Před 4 měsíci +4

    Are we saying this because he is a billionaire? I'm sure some other church members lost loved ones this period too.

    • @Noblekitten
      @Noblekitten Před 4 měsíci +2

      Herbert Wigwe contributed massively into building that church! Herbert was a significant contributor and member of that church!

    • @graceayo4661
      @graceayo4661 Před 4 měsíci

      Exactly if they would nit have been this angry if the person was poor l, they have no right to be angry now, the truth is that life goes on

    • @ayanate829
      @ayanate829 Před 4 měsíci +12

      It's not even about their contribution. It's the fact that they lost three members at once. No naa. The whole church supposed mourn.

    • @nwananka
      @nwananka Před 4 měsíci

      @@ayanate829 good point about loosing 3 members

    • @nwananka
      @nwananka Před 4 měsíci

      @@Noblekitten remember "widows mite" a poor person giving 50% of what they have is the bigger contributor oo

  • @bestsharp439
    @bestsharp439 Před 4 měsíci

    The reaction to the birthday was overblown and unnecessary

  • @MsCheriecoco
    @MsCheriecoco Před 4 měsíci +2

    Would Wigwe stop his birthday celebration if the cases were reversed? He’d celebrate the media would talk about his lavish birthday and NOT A TONGUE would lash out at him BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS……… LIFE GOES ON! Enough with the slave mentality…. If they weren’t invited to the remembrance, they won’t lose a strand on hair over it. Maybe just money in form of offering or donations!!!

    • @Noblekitten
      @Noblekitten Před 4 měsíci +9

      Herbert Wigwe was not a Pastor! Herbert Wigwe was NOT the leader of the church! The Iluyomade’s did wrong! Take it or leave it!

    • @Hisgracetv
      @Hisgracetv Před 4 měsíci

      @MsCheriecoco, you are 100% Correct.

    • @ayanate829
      @ayanate829 Před 4 měsíci +9

      A pastor is like a Father. What Father would be celebrating if He loses 3 children?

    • @debbieoweni1543
      @debbieoweni1543 Před 4 měsíci +1

      How can you liken Solomon or David to Elijah or Samuel. Moreover, it's common practice to be at a place of mourning than feasting, and the Bible instructs this.

    • @olubusolaawolaja6831
      @olubusolaawolaja6831 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Where is the emphathy, a man’s family almost wiped out😢3 people died at the same time, and pastor called him his spiritual son. This is a man who has helped the church many times, save the church embarrassment. Even till today, the church is owing him 1Billion Naira. It’s wrong of that church. If the Pastor lost 2 members of his own family, will the wife be dancing to flavour

  • @dedunmola
    @dedunmola Před 4 měsíci

    Very insensitive! Nothing more to add

  • @bestsharp439
    @bestsharp439 Před 4 měsíci

    The usual pettiness and bitterness.

  • @kayodeolowomeye6688
    @kayodeolowomeye6688 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The Pastor was really stupid , Nigerians have to open their eyes and see clearly, how can they so called Church went ahead and have a party in face of such huge calamity ? How did they make Pastorship ?
    Really sad for the Church and their members .

    • @knightedpoet
      @knightedpoet Před 4 měsíci

      Maybe not the whole church. I am sure if you were a member in that church with your current stand, you won't attend that party. I know I won't attend.

  • @bestsharp439
    @bestsharp439 Před 4 měsíci

    What if Wigwe want people to celebrate after his life. Did you think about that? Did Wigwe ask you to attack the pastor on his behalf?

    • @knightedpoet
      @knightedpoet Před 4 měsíci

      That is not a very intelligent thing to say but again it is your opinion and you are entitled to that.

  • @bestsharp439
    @bestsharp439 Před 4 měsíci

    You don't know the pastor's story, her pains, her struggles, her sacrifices, the reasons for her celebration. Most CZcams channels are run by people that lack any creative ideas, so they jump on any story

    • @ellaagu8016
      @ellaagu8016 Před 4 měsíci

      She could have done it silently..It was really insensitive of her ...I wasn't close to the Wigwe family but I cried watching videos of his burial..it was such a great tragedy...Abeg make we no dey suppport wetin no good

  • @yaikuiart6059
    @yaikuiart6059 Před 4 měsíci

    Morayo, I don't think seeing certain occurencies which are despicable and horrible and condemning it publicly is maturity.
    If evil is not publicly condemned as evil, it will become normalised in the society and God forbid that God will treat Nigeria as Sodom and Gomorrah.

  • @emmanuelchidozie9004
    @emmanuelchidozie9004 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I don't blame the pastor ... What if she never make it to next year ..what would u say ..life Aint sure ....

    • @Triplecharmfanpage574
      @Triplecharmfanpage574 Před 4 měsíci +6

      And so? It's celebrating her birthday the ticket to heaven? Must she celebrate her birthday? The Bible admonishes us to mourn with those who are mourning. She's simply insensitive and worldly!

  • @yemisiadeniran7210
    @yemisiadeniran7210 Před 4 měsíci

    Did jesus celebrate his birthdays?
    Who are Christians really following ?

  • @georgeadewole1024
    @georgeadewole1024 Před 4 měsíci

    The truth is am deeply disappointed with the decision to continue with the pastor wife birthday regardless of what arrangements have been made. And I think the church overall admin has to look into this and discipline this kind of behavior. It’s a total shame and it’s very unscriptural. I pray the lord uphold the wigwe family and consol them in times like this.

  • @temitayoatanda8588
    @temitayoatanda8588 Před 4 měsíci

    Foolish talk.

  • @Peggyg13
    @Peggyg13 Před 4 měsíci +13

    Well, for me, this is just my view. Pastor siju wanted to have a ball. It was her 60th birthday. You can only be 60 once in a life time. She wanted to celebrate it big. This has nothing to do with Herbert wigwe. It was about celebrating the long life God has blessed her with. I don’t think it’s a crime to celebrate and thank God for life in the way and manner she did. Who her we to judge. Judge not. God has been very kind to them in both good and bad times. It’s been a journey.
    Herbert wigwe was a great man. He did well with his life. He lived an impactful life. Unfortunately his life was cut short. It’s wasn’t Pastor Siju fault that happened. It is only God that knows the date every one of us will die. God didn’t stop him or prevent him from dieing. Does that make God evil ?
    He’s time was up. We have to live with this fact. The great man is gone. As for his generous deeds, he did it for God not for man. After all when we die we will face our marker by ourselves. The church building will remain but our soul will live in heaven or hell.
    How do we know for sure when it happened the iluyomade’s didn’t condole with them ?
    I think people are conflating two issues. This is an issue that doesn’t concern anybody. After all when he was attending his church and doing kind things did people care to comment.
    Please, let’s live things as they are. People will die and people will celebrate life. That’s the natural cycle of life. We thank God nonetheless.

    • @rosaadeola6988
      @rosaadeola6988 Před 4 měsíci +19

      I believe you are a member of that church. You have said well. Remember the cane used for the first wife is always reserved for the second. What goes around comes around. You can start envisioning how yours will be.

    • @mayowaoyedokun9828
      @mayowaoyedokun9828 Před 4 měsíci +22

      I think that birthday was in January, she already celebrated in church. If she could pick February for party, she can adjourn for weeks just for burial to be concluded based on the relationship they had with the deceased

    • @ayodejiejimokun4868
      @ayodejiejimokun4868 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Long life indeed! Is she more than 60years? They behave as if they are not Christians. Nyma has said it all though..... Kudos to Your View crew

    • @susansado404
      @susansado404 Před 4 měsíci +9

      If it were her husband or child that died would she have still celebrated? My people has an adage that this is how they're going to mourn me is how you mourn others, this act is a clear indication that we are the only ones seeing pastors as families they don't regard us as same

    • @sobandedamilola1016
      @sobandedamilola1016 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@rosaadeola6988😮

  • @Hisgracetv
    @Hisgracetv Před 4 měsíci

    This lady with hijab saying nonsense, the did has been done, so you want him to go there and be mocked. Supreme court Judges. You people will not talk to your Oga to work on how to fix Nigeria economy.

    • @timothyakor9989
      @timothyakor9989 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Hey! Save your energy for your hustle. What has her hijab got to do with the matter being discussed.

    • @dedunmola
      @dedunmola Před 4 měsíci +1

      Did you watch the same clip we all watched?

    • @babawalelabake4261
      @babawalelabake4261 Před 4 měsíci

      It shows how intelligently insensitive I are economical with the truth..Don't be depress