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  • @edinscot56789
    @edinscot56789 Před 7 lety +3560

    'Perhaps the Kings were too far behind to see. The soldiers won the battle.'
    Great quote

    • @borisdorofeev5602
      @borisdorofeev5602 Před 6 lety +76

      Yeah it was, except Achilles was actually a king.

    • @Dark_Voice
      @Dark_Voice Před 5 lety +18

      @Kiwi MGTOW I would say it wasnt as true then as its now. Before those truly skilled soldiers were remembered and sometimes even more than their Kings or commanders but now the number is so big you really have to be a good officer or a leader of a country to get noticed.

    • @BlackDiamond2718
      @BlackDiamond2718 Před 4 lety +17

      Funny too because they are always behind. But some kings did follow their men into battle. Half of our leaders are warriors and the other half are politicians. Puts leadership into perspective.

    • @andrewfrazier547
      @andrewfrazier547 Před 4 lety +21

      @@borisdorofeev5602 Achilles is not a king, he is a warlord. Agamemnon says it I the beginning of the movie. I quote,(of all the warlords in Greece the gods love him most)

    • @borisdorofeev5602
      @borisdorofeev5602 Před 4 lety +19

      @@andrewfrazier547 In the Trojan Epic, the work this movie is based on, Achilles was a king.

  • @nickmartin8495
    @nickmartin8495 Před 4 lety +750

    “You want gold? Take it, it’s my gift to honor your courage.” Great sarcasm in that insult.

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +16

      Actually, this movie was highly inaccurate. Agamemnon was one of the best warriors which Achilles himself (after he makes up with Agamemnon) acknowledges (Book 23). And Agamemnon routs an army and is the 8nly major hero to do so without divine assistance or divine weapons. (Book 11).

    • @Arbaal
      @Arbaal Před 3 lety

      @@ThePaganSun That fat Sack of Wine!

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +9

      @@Arbaal Actually, Achilles calls him a "Drinker of wine" in the Iliad, but doesn't call him "Fat." Agamemnon was actually stated to have "eyes and head like Zeus, waist like Ares, and chest like Poseidon" (Book 2) so he was extremely handsome and very strong.

    • @queenanneboleyn6848
      @queenanneboleyn6848 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ThePaganSun The fact that you are defending Agamemnon everywhere.

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 2 lety +2

      @@queenanneboleyn6848 He's my favorite epic hero from the Iliad and the movie portrayed him inaccurately. He was an amazing warrior who was the only major hero on both sides that never needed help from the gods. And he and Achilles reconciled before Achilles' death and shared a very amicable conversation in the Underworld in the Odyssey.

  • @mg19cal
    @mg19cal Před 4 lety +843

    Agamemnon: "History remembers kings, not soldiers."
    Alexander The Great: "sheeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiit, watch me do BOTH."

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před 4 lety +103

      unlike Agamemnon, Alexander actually fought and nearly died in his battles. He survived an axe to the helmet, an arrow to the chest and various other wounds.

    • @mg19cal
      @mg19cal Před 4 lety +73

      @@SantomPh EXACTLY, he DEFINITELY earned his title of "Great"

    • @blankblank5409
      @blankblank5409 Před 4 lety +1

      Both world wars: wat

    • @fabiokaya202
      @fabiokaya202 Před 4 lety +1

      Alexander the great was a snitch rat. belongs in prison

    • @e.m.p.3394
      @e.m.p.3394 Před 4 lety +1

      DAMN
      This sh*t funny af.

  • @Stokie09123
    @Stokie09123 Před 8 lety +3137

    "Ignore the politics"
    Once a Stark always a Stark!

    • @EluSivICZeROxAwe
      @EluSivICZeROxAwe Před 8 lety +3

      +Stokie09123 yet u see him fight for them fken Hypocrite "we need to be put in check" yea okay.

    • @admiralflynn895
      @admiralflynn895 Před 8 lety +30

      +Ox7ProTotyPe ....wrong Stark, wrong fandom.

    • @theofficialphoenixtv5765
      @theofficialphoenixtv5765 Před 7 lety +66

      he was Odysseus before he was a Stark lmfao

    • @spiritusIRATUS
      @spiritusIRATUS Před 6 lety +36

      Except here he is the smartest instead of the dumbest leader.

    • @courserhunter5592
      @courserhunter5592 Před 6 lety +3

      Robert I Baratheon yeah your one to talk you'd rather kill a baby and her mother whose also married a darthraki war lord

  • @roryslaine7896
    @roryslaine7896 Před rokem +185

    "No argument with you brothers, but if you don't release her you'll never see home again. Decide." Awesome quote.

  • @forcehd1460
    @forcehd1460 Před 8 lety +2347

    *No argument with you brothers, but if you don't release her you'll never see home again... decide!* Best part :P absolutely badass

  • @WalrusDoom
    @WalrusDoom Před 4 lety +566

    “You sack of wine!”
    Sickest burn

    • @JuanDeSoCal
      @JuanDeSoCal Před 4 lety +12

      Called him a booze bag

    • @chrisferguson5381
      @chrisferguson5381 Před 4 lety +3

      LOL I suppose drinking wine out of a sack could have been looked down upon in those days

    • @Ugh-Fudge_Bwana
      @Ugh-Fudge_Bwana Před 4 lety +4

      @@chrisferguson5381 Nah it's just another way of calling someone a drunk. "You smell like a bar" would be a modern equivalent.

    • @Kitchdmn3
      @Kitchdmn3 Před 4 lety +3

      Love how he just talks shit to Agamemnon and he just basically takes it.

    • @JOHN----DOE
      @JOHN----DOE Před 4 lety +2

      It's in the Iliad. That's about all in this schlock movie that IS in the Iliad.

  • @TowerofAboveandBelow
    @TowerofAboveandBelow Před 8 lety +1741

    I'm surprised the guards even thought to follow an order to attack Achilles knowing death is certain.

    • @viettrungtran4500
      @viettrungtran4500 Před 8 lety +190

      That loyalty right there.

    • @TowerofAboveandBelow
      @TowerofAboveandBelow Před 8 lety +88

      I wonder why Achilles didn't just slay Agamemnon.

    • @viettrungtran4500
      @viettrungtran4500 Před 8 lety +172

      Blue Vervain He maybe the finest warrior in ancient history. But even the strongest tiger could not stand against an endless wave of enemy.
      Take 300 or Lu Bu story as example.

    • @jonpowell4246
      @jonpowell4246 Před 7 lety +13

      +Sage Wolf he could've if not for his sense of compassion.

    • @TomiAdewoleAdetom
      @TomiAdewoleAdetom Před 7 lety +89

      Death would certainly have resulted had they chosen NOT to follow such an order. And a king such as Agamemnon might even take it out on their families as a deterrent to future soldiers.

  • @varunemani
    @varunemani Před 4 lety +121

    Brad was born to play Achilles.. Memorable role.

  • @jmmasters6100
    @jmmasters6100 Před 4 lety +108

    Achiless so badass, he can threaten the king inside his own tent, and doesnt get punished

    • @FimbongBass
      @FimbongBass Před 4 lety +12

      he doesnt even give a response either lol he knows if he says anything else then achilles will cut him down

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +7

      Because this movie is inaccurate. Agamemnon insulted him back and could've hurt or killed him too which is why the goddess Athena actually pulls his hair.

    • @trevorprice7366
      @trevorprice7366 Před 3 lety

      Hes a king he could have achillies killed, i think, the main reason he needs achillies is because hes nothing less then an asset. His squad alone took that temple hector was at.

    • @Mr.Nobody_97
      @Mr.Nobody_97 Před měsícem

      It’s the same feeling I got when ser barristan insulted king jofferey after they forced him into retirement. Nobody was willing to shut him down because he is as skillful as he is snappy, even the hound (who arguably is the closest skilled warrior to ser barriston) had to hold his sheathed sword behind the kings guard

  • @paulseeth7938
    @paulseeth7938 Před 7 lety +1615

    I wish there was an alternate form of this scene where Achilles takes out all the guards, kills Agamemnon and sails away with Breseis.

    • @finsfan90
      @finsfan90 Před 7 lety +164

      They should have filmed it just for shits and giggles.

    • @Spacegoat92
      @Spacegoat92 Před 6 lety +109

      How Troy should have ended.

    • @TellingItLikeItIs2000
      @TellingItLikeItIs2000 Před 6 lety +17

      Spacegoat92 Both HISHE and Honest Trailers should do this.

    • @siddhaantsaagar7130
      @siddhaantsaagar7130 Před 5 lety +4

      Ohhh.. how beautiful!

    • @NZENZN
      @NZENZN Před 5 lety +5

      Paul Seeth yes and the rest of the film is a beautiful porno

  • @Vakama95096
    @Vakama95096 Před 7 lety +592

    "Before my time is done, I will look down on your corpse and smile" Now that's very badass

    • @wayneoneal7952
      @wayneoneal7952 Před 4 lety +9

      @a a in real life he wouldn't have said it he would have done it!

    • @Omega4Productions
      @Omega4Productions Před 4 lety +16

      Agamemnon wouldn't dare lay a hand on him. He knows his kingship is only as good as his army, and the army loves Achilles, not him.

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +4

      And yet he never did...in the actual Iliad.

    • @trinhngo4647
      @trinhngo4647 Před 2 lety +2

      They should include that scene in the movie when Agamennon died

    • @cautarepvp2079
      @cautarepvp2079 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Omega4Productions he would have, except it was in the tent, he insulted the king infront of all other people, its a risk move

  • @kazuhirala
    @kazuhirala Před 8 lety +350

    "Sack of wine!" my favorite insult, mainly because people think its a compliment

    • @Lietiel
      @Lietiel Před 8 lety +10

      lol Who the fuck thinks that?

    • @kazuhirala
      @kazuhirala Před 8 lety +5

      Trust me inve said a couple of times to people and they dont seem to be offended but just nod their head

    • @Mike-zo6vj
      @Mike-zo6vj Před 8 lety

      +Lietiel People with an I.Q. higher than yourself.

    • @Lietiel
      @Lietiel Před 8 lety +9

      Miles Hamblen Wow, what a scathing retort. Did you come up with that witty gem all by yourself or did your Asian "comfort woman's" pimp help you write it?

    • @cosingapalpatine7675
      @cosingapalpatine7675 Před 8 lety +2

      +Miles Hamblen Yeah, because you must be a genius, renting cars to people when you're not busy attacking valid questions on CZcams.

  • @frankinsaneandmyrrh1202
    @frankinsaneandmyrrh1202 Před 2 lety +68

    before he says "ignore the politics," he also says to him, "war is young men dying and old men talking." simple but painfully true.

  • @jimmystyles6203
    @jimmystyles6203 Před 7 lety +488

    Every soldier wants to be remembered like Achilles was.

    • @user-zw1zc2hd8i
      @user-zw1zc2hd8i Před 6 lety +6

      Jimmy Styles every soldier and every fighter

    • @haskapaska
      @haskapaska Před 5 lety

      Achille´s heel.... Yeah. Every soldier wants to be known for their weakness.

    • @Who-Uhm-Cares
      @Who-Uhm-Cares Před 4 lety +3

      haskapaska Achilles weakness was a Women.

    • @magicmooney5011
      @magicmooney5011 Před 4 lety +10

      No that is the point of achilles, soldiers are motivated by gold and riches that king promises for victory for achilles he don't care about that. Even In today standard ppl who strive for greatness are admired. Ppl who only work for money hunker together and complain all day, and wish they could have the money of the greats. They don't realize that money is a by product of greatness.

    • @adityanawani8134
      @adityanawani8134 Před 4 lety

      100th like!😊😊😊

  • @eval_is_evil
    @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +2744

    History remembers kings not soldiers....aaaand he lost that bet.

    • @scouttroop291
      @scouttroop291 Před 8 lety +6

      +Tomi in the old days this now who was ira hays boy or darby or pappy boyinton the list is long boy york is one too as long as there storys are tolled how the king ? name is lost he was true

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +84

      j lin​ what the heck ?

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +7

      *****​​ lol oh okay ,understood :D

    • @ccchrv
      @ccchrv Před 8 lety +3

      +j lin ^LOL..

    • @Korakaris
      @Korakaris Před 7 lety +70

      History remembers both of them actually..each for different reasons.

  • @brianbernstein3826
    @brianbernstein3826 Před 7 lety +416

    it's so brilliant when Achilles finally threatens the king's life, he's calling his bluff because they both know the king can't assassinate Achilles without losing the loyalty of his army. and in the exact same scene, Agamemnon is thrilled to discover that the invincible hero does in fact have a point of weakness. what a movie!

    • @alexman378
      @alexman378 Před 4 lety +36

      This whole thing was just a power move to remind Achilles who’s the big dog. It backfired hilariously because Hector laid waste on them when they went in without Achilles.

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +12

      @@alexman378 Except in the actual Iliad, it backfired because Achilles' mother is a goddess who asked Zeus to let the Trojans win! There are countless times the Greeks could've won without Achilles since Agamemnon, Big Ajax and Diomedes were all Hector's equal or better.

    • @vk3567
      @vk3567 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ThePaganSun Diomedes was definitely better than Hector. In the Iliad he even defeated Ares 1v1!!!

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +7

      @@vk3567 Diomedes and Big Ajax are shown to be slightly better than Hector since Hector usually came off worse than them when they would fight. But Achilles and Agamemnon were shown to be significantly better than Hector since Hector was warned by the gods not to fight either of them.
      But actually Diomedes was only able to wound Aphrodite and Ares because he was given enhanced strength by Athena. Agamemnon is the one that never needed divine weapons or direct divine aid in battle.

    • @vk3567
      @vk3567 Před 3 lety

      @@ThePaganSun No,Agamemnon wasn't that good in the Iliad.

  • @pavlinlako3059
    @pavlinlako3059 Před rokem +26

    "Before my time is done, I will look down upon your corpse and smile!"
    One of the best lines.

  • @joeofmacabre07
    @joeofmacabre07 Před 8 lety +87

    Is it just me or Brian Cox's voice is just so sophisticated and cool to hear.

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +9

      absolutely ....also why no Odysseus movie with Sean Bean dammit ???

    • @PuppetierMaster
      @PuppetierMaster Před 8 lety

      +joeofmacabre07 Watch Red 1 and 2 He's really the backbone of those 2 movies

    • @JackalTheMasked
      @JackalTheMasked Před 8 lety +1

      +Tomi Because Odysseus doesn't die in the end :P

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +1

      JackalTheMasked​ haha that's a good one! Poor Sean Bean :))))

    • @terminator324343
      @terminator324343 Před 8 lety +1

      +joeofmacabre07 Don't worry, you're not the only one who is charmed by Brian Cox's voice. Frankly, I might like Agamemnon more than Achilles.

  • @jib2355
    @jib2355 Před 4 lety +45

    she saved all their lives they should have thanked her

    • @antaress8128
      @antaress8128 Před 4 lety +16

      They tried to thank her personally later that night but Achiles disrupted the thanksgiving and took her to his tent again.

    • @gustavoritter7321
      @gustavoritter7321 Před rokem +1

      @@antaress8128 lol on second watch, ur actually right. Brave girl though

  • @buttercup645
    @buttercup645 Před 6 lety +30

    Agamemnon has been my favorite character this whole movie.

    • @williamdavies9339
      @williamdavies9339 Před 5 lety +5

      I don't blame u it's fucking Brian cox awesome actor

    • @osaretincaving462
      @osaretincaving462 Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you i taught i was alone

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +4

      He's my favorite character in the actual Iliad!! This version of him is inaccurate. Agamemnon was said to have "eyes and head of Zeus, waist like Ares, chest like Poseidon " (Book 2). Enemy king Priam is said to have admired his looks and strength (Book 3). He was one of the three best warriors out of nine the army most wanted to fight Hector (Book 7), he routs the Trojans army to their walls without divine weapons or divine aid (Book 11), and even Achilles later admits Agamemnon is "the best in strength and in throwing the spear." (Book 23).

  • @Xaverian3
    @Xaverian3 Před 9 měsíci +12

    “Make your own fucking pile” -Agamemnon Roy

  • @zyzor
    @zyzor Před 8 lety +931

    its true everyone remembers the leader no one remembers the soldiers. Everyone knows the name Napoleon but nobody knows the men who fought and died in his campaigns.

    • @XxKinGzxX100
      @XxKinGzxX100 Před 8 lety +316

      +Zyzor But growing up as a kid i knew the name achilles and not agamemnom

    • @NiekGAE
      @NiekGAE Před 8 lety +83

      +Zyzor Kind of hard to remember over 15.000.000 names from those wars alone isn't it.

    • @aaronmarshall1212
      @aaronmarshall1212 Před 8 lety +40

      No shit. That's why you never join the army

    • @zacharymueller7127
      @zacharymueller7127 Před 8 lety +50

      Napoleon was always on the front line, that's the difference.

    • @TVmadness3
      @TVmadness3 Před 8 lety +85

      He was not in the front line though, get your facts straight. He stayed away from there and commanded from the rear as any wise commander would at that time. Fighting in the front lines would sooner or later have ended with his death.

  • @TheStromxxxx
    @TheStromxxxx Před 7 lety +1590

    lol agamemnon was wrong, Achilles much more famous then him today.

    • @kross777rlsh9
      @kross777rlsh9 Před 6 lety +27

      TheStromxxxx
      So true.

    • @emreh6599
      @emreh6599 Před 6 lety +93

      TheStromxxxx there is literally a part of the body named after him, the Achilles tear as everybody knows. So yeah

    • @jherrenor
      @jherrenor Před 6 lety +102

      Lucky he wasn't shot in the dick then.

    • @mrlargon
      @mrlargon Před 6 lety +19

      Well both are famous and known to day

    • @MrBraddles3128
      @MrBraddles3128 Před 6 lety +8

      Kobe Bryant the g.o.a.t, you mean ‘Achilles Tendon’.

  • @hirthirthirt1693
    @hirthirthirt1693 Před 4 lety +18

    I L O V E that actor that displayed the king.....so good. Looks great, acted great, was great

  • @alphakodiak16
    @alphakodiak16 Před 4 lety +22

    I love when undeserving authorities get challenged and humiliated, especially since they are not used to it. It just feels so reviving.

  • @AngrySilence
    @AngrySilence Před 11 měsíci +6

    "You sack of wine!"
    "F*ck off!"

  • @gaborszucs8717
    @gaborszucs8717 Před 9 lety +487

    Sack of wine? I would be sooo confused if someone called me that.

    • @evilmoif
      @evilmoif Před 9 lety +59

      Gábor Szűcs and yet, what a great insult!

    • @AleXandrYuZ
      @AleXandrYuZ Před 8 lety +27

      +Gábor Szűcs In Latin AMerica he calls him "Dog face" ...

    • @BigNoseDog
      @BigNoseDog Před 8 lety +69

      Use it in a bar fight and see what reaction you get. LOL

    • @propheccy
      @propheccy Před 8 lety +28

      +Gábor Szűcs In the German version he calls him "drunken pig" haha
      sack of wine is much nicer IMO

    • @demigod2324
      @demigod2324 Před 8 lety +40

      +Gábor Szűcs that line was actually taken directly out of The Iliad.....

  • @BlackDiamond2718
    @BlackDiamond2718 Před 2 lety +11

    Why is no one talking about how she got him to back down. That was so deep and you could feel your own temper cool when she spoke the truth.

  • @hieubeo1202
    @hieubeo1202 Před 4 lety +14

    2:45 soldier behind Achilles: ''ok chill Achilles i'm gonna..i'm gonna stay back''

  • @h1e2x3
    @h1e2x3 Před 9 lety +219

    2:56 Agamemnon's crap hits the floor

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +2

      In the actual Iliad, Agamemnon was almost Achilles' equal in battle! (Book 11).

    • @h1e2x3
      @h1e2x3 Před 3 lety

      @@ThePaganSun So what ?

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety

      @@h1e2x3 So he's awesome and not afraid of Achilles.

    • @h1e2x3
      @h1e2x3 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ThePaganSun He was awesome and he was afraid of Achilles which both are obvious.

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +1

      @@h1e2x3 He was afraid of Achilles in the movie but not in the actual epic. So the movie was inaccurate.

  • @dirdib69
    @dirdib69 Před 10 měsíci +6

    I'll always remember Brian Cox's comment about how gorgeous Brad was during this movie. Straight or not, you couldn't help but notice him.

    • @heliotropezzz333
      @heliotropezzz333 Před 8 měsíci

      Sometimes he seemed to be wearing lip gloss as if the director wanted him to look the best.

  • @daniel_a_sanchez1999
    @daniel_a_sanchez1999 Před 8 lety +388

    Achilles could've killed everybody in the room but the girl in a matter of two minutes......

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +16

      women tend to castrate us...just today I went into a big argument with a pretty tough looking guy (loudmouth). I know that before I met my gf I would be all over that ...even if it meant I would get beaten like hell. Would come back with a fucking stick next time

    • @alyctus
      @alyctus Před 8 lety +13

      +Tomi so women make you less violent then :)

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +12

      Silmarien Ingoldo exactly :)

    • @geomag527
      @geomag527 Před 8 lety +25

      +Tomi They have the ability to calm the demons within us. That is necessary at times my wife has that affect on me and i thank her for that.

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +4

      Geo Mag yeah...amen to that

  • @NexusCool1
    @NexusCool1 Před 8 lety +438

    Sack of wine ! lol

    • @todayforever204
      @todayforever204 Před 8 lety +17

      +NexusCool1 Back then wine was served in a sack

    • @demigod2324
      @demigod2324 Před 8 lety +17

      +NexusCool1 that is actually in the Iliad also

    • @SherlockHolmes000
      @SherlockHolmes000 Před 8 lety +20

      +NexusCool1 His insides are fermented, and sour.

    • @brandonselitetv1436
      @brandonselitetv1436 Před 8 lety

      +Quentin Lennox Here in the American Republic we use gallon

    • @robertguzman3356
      @robertguzman3356 Před 8 lety +2

      Lmao exactly what I thought...I never remembering hearing that before.

  • @samuraipanda851
    @samuraipanda851 Před 6 lety +75

    Jokes on you, Agamemnon. You didn't get named after a tendon in the medical books.

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před rokem +2

      No, but he got remembered for a rich tomb. 👍

  • @zzzzz1251
    @zzzzz1251 Před 2 lety +15

    "HISTORY REMEMBERS KINGS NOT SOLDIERS" Epic line

    • @Quinntus79
      @Quinntus79 Před 6 měsíci

      I guess that’s true, but most people only remember Agamemnon for being a fuck up. He pissed off Artemis, he murdered his daughter, He pissed off Apollo, turning the tide of battle against the Achaeans, he refused to heed Cassandra’s warnings, and then he got axed by his ex wife. Agamemnon is the biggest screw up the house of Atreus produced.

  • @canarypurpledesign
    @canarypurpledesign Před 7 lety +524

    The movie was the best still the best

    • @oliverzurcher2241
      @oliverzurcher2241 Před 7 lety +22

      it was and it is a great film that is for sure

    • @samfisher2306
      @samfisher2306 Před 6 lety +3

      PaperChaser great film but have you seen Braveheart or Gladiator?

    • @robin2604
      @robin2604 Před 6 lety +8

      I agree, those are 2 great movies but let's be honest, they don't make movies like troy anymore.

    • @mitsuevo8mr
      @mitsuevo8mr Před 6 lety +2

      Troy was a great movie but GLADIATOR was 300 times better..

    • @redpoppotus
      @redpoppotus Před 5 lety

      What about 2 years later

  • @in_vas_por8810
    @in_vas_por8810 Před 7 lety +519

    Even now I could cut through the 10 of you like carving a cake!!!"

    • @ayandak47
      @ayandak47 Před 5 lety +2

      @@AaronWilliamGilbert94 Not really... he's shady. What kind of KingsGaurd serves a Usurper. As soon as he heard there were still Targaryans around he should have fled the city to go be by their side. He may have been able to quell Viserys maddness and stop Jorah from betraying Dany or her brothers where abouts.
      The douche only went changed sides because of the humilation of being fired by a boy king.

    • @ayandak47
      @ayandak47 Před 5 lety +2

      @@AaronWilliamGilbert94 No, his option was seek out the remaining Targaryans whom I should serve because the spies say they are still alive. It was common knowledge Dany and Viserys escaped, everyone knew they went east. Barriston the old is shady. Who serves a Usurper. He should have played along with Robert serving until sneaking away like he did to serve the heirs like he did after Joffery became King and fired his ass.

    • @BlackDiamond2718
      @BlackDiamond2718 Před 4 lety +7

      Here boy! Melt it down with the others!

    • @BlackDiamond2718
      @BlackDiamond2718 Před 4 lety

      He said 5 though

    • @murderouskitten2577
      @murderouskitten2577 Před 4 lety

      Salmy and Achilies butchering jofrey and agamenmon - sounds like best crossover ever :)

  • @jacobwilliams5271
    @jacobwilliams5271 Před 10 měsíci +7

    " First, you need the victory."

  • @firefox1234ize
    @firefox1234ize Před 5 lety +16

    Love the way Agamemnon looks at the girl to see if she has some type of bewitching spell😂

  • @BaddieBossUniversity
    @BaddieBossUniversity Před rokem +5

    Logan Roy always trying to rule some ish 😂

  • @patookwy9240
    @patookwy9240 Před 4 lety +5

    U can have d beach.."I didn't come hee for sand"
    Troy has d highest badass quotes in any movie I've watched

  • @guido4861
    @guido4861 Před 7 lety +87

    You can have the beach i did not come here for sand... Haha awesome!

  • @keonefatiaki
    @keonefatiaki Před 6 lety +13

    The acting was spot on 🙌🏽

  • @Tsaroff21
    @Tsaroff21 Před 9 měsíci +16

    "FUCK OFF!" ~ Logan Agamemnon, probably

  • @livinthefilm
    @livinthefilm Před 7 měsíci +3

    Logan Roy was a G in previous life.

  • @FeniXMinerva
    @FeniXMinerva Před 4 lety +6

    2:45 The most bizarre yet memorable insult I’ve ever heard.

  • @DuinHark
    @DuinHark Před 4 lety +8

    This movie has so many quotable moments I sporadically say them to my brother. So funny!

  • @divinelove4604
    @divinelove4604 Před 7 lety +36

    "I don't want anyone dying for me." I love that part. Sounds like something I would have said.

    • @deanvo503
      @deanvo503 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Nobody would have died for u tho

    • @divinelove4604
      @divinelove4604 Před 9 měsíci

      @@deanvo503 Did I say they would have?

    • @deanvo503
      @deanvo503 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@divinelove4604 yes, implicitly, but believe me when I repeat that NO ONE, EVER, would die for you, and you know it.

    • @divinelove4604
      @divinelove4604 Před 8 měsíci

      @deanvo503 , I suggest you keep it moving and stop directing your ugliness to me. Keep your negativity to yourself. You are a nasty bastard and you know it. In the past many have died for me even though I never asked them to, while I have already at one point, died for everyone including yourself and those who have not been born yet. I did that not you.

    • @thalessilva1
      @thalessilva1 Před měsícem

      @@deanvo503 you never know that destiny is interesting...

  • @veramelnik3430
    @veramelnik3430 Před 5 lety +13

    "before my time is done I will look down on your corpse and smile" most badass line in the entire movie

  • @seekeroftruth101
    @seekeroftruth101 Před 4 lety +4

    My favorite movie of this time piece.

  • @smik4978
    @smik4978 Před 7 lety +182

    Agamemnon took a very big risk. Achilles could have easily killed all the guards and Agamemnon. It was only because the girl told him not to that they weren't killed.

    • @stevengonzalez2318
      @stevengonzalez2318 Před 6 lety +1

      smik4978 no fucking shit

    • @M3Lucky
      @M3Lucky Před 6 lety +24

      Not a risk at all. Achilles would be dead if he tried to do that. Killing the King is murder of the highest order; Achilles death would be ensured

    • @gokhangeta6289
      @gokhangeta6289 Před 6 lety +21

      Nobody touches achilles he is too respected even after killing agamemnon

    • @M3Lucky
      @M3Lucky Před 6 lety +4

      There were like 8 guards about to touch Achilles, mate

    • @undrielgrenger53
      @undrielgrenger53 Před 6 lety +27

      And there was soon to be eight bodies laying around too (no, 9 if you include Agamemnon)...if Breseis didn't interfere.

  • @cesarcarbajal21
    @cesarcarbajal21 Před 7 lety +273

    Achilles would've killed those guys easy

    • @jimmystyles6203
      @jimmystyles6203 Před 7 lety +51

      He would've killed the next fifty men who would charge in

    • @josephorlando7108
      @josephorlando7108 Před 7 lety +21

      And King Agamemnon with them too.

    • @tonyocr12
      @tonyocr12 Před 6 lety +13

      Doubtful, even the most skilled of warriors will have very low odds of survival against multiple combattants , surrounding him no less and all armed,trained soldiers. How can you parry more than two attacks with only one weapon? Especially when the attacker is out of your line of sight. It's impossible. He'd have to have thought out a strategy beforehand to attempt to swiftly take them out one by one before they have a chance to gang up on him.

    • @rocketraccoon1976
      @rocketraccoon1976 Před 6 lety +42

      + Shiro Kotomine
      In real life, yes, but in this movie, no. According to the movie's logic, Achilles would have definitely slaughtered them all by himself. He pretty much did just that in the scene where he attacks and slays all the guards at Apollo's temple.

    • @JoseOrtiz-be4zi
      @JoseOrtiz-be4zi Před 6 lety +10

      Shiro Kotomine Nah he had already won even before the exchange of swords. At the moment he adopted a fighting pose you could easily see the fear in their face

  • @Justforthefifteen
    @Justforthefifteen Před 4 lety +149

    Didn’t realized Harvey Weinstein was in this movie...

    • @nycwizrd8348
      @nycwizrd8348 Před 4 lety +1

      🤣🤣👀👀🤣🙄

    • @thetrax3482
      @thetrax3482 Před 4 lety +1

      Lol my thoughts exactlyv

    • @iwanttodie7199
      @iwanttodie7199 Před 4 lety +2

      Where?

    • @MrJustonemorevoice
      @MrJustonemorevoice Před 4 lety +3

      God damnit dude I nearly choked on my bagel reading this.
      Though really. Harvey Weinstein makes Agamemnon look like Achilles

    • @samfisher2306
      @samfisher2306 Před 4 lety +1

      Omg lol...I instantly knew who you were referring to lol

  • @samtate2011
    @samtate2011 Před 8 lety +41

    Why does Agamemnon purposely try and piss off Achilles and belittle him when he knows he's the greatest warrior in Greece, that without him victory becomes far more difficult. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Not only is he NOT wise, he's a fucking idiot, I really don't understand what he was trying to achieve. If I were him I'd try very hard to make amends, having Achilles as your enemy is not good for your health, as he found out.

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +14

      because he feels threatened by him

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil Před 8 lety +4

      also...there was a power Agamemnon had : he could take the honour to be part of his war from Achilles. That would be like dying for him.

    • @daniluchison
      @daniluchison Před 8 lety +4

      +PC Friendly
      One word: EGO.

    • @terminator324343
      @terminator324343 Před 8 lety +6

      +PC Friendly There's also another issue with Achilles. In a scene with Nestor, Agamemnon admits that he hates Achilles because Achilles stands against everything that Agamemnon built (which is a loose alliance of Achean states). Agamemnon sees himself as a conquering visionary and forger of empires, but Achilles to him is a volatile mercenary who fights for no flag and is loyal to no country.

    • @daniluchison
      @daniluchison Před 8 lety +1

      *****
      Correct BUT... the issue isn't with Achiles, the issue is with Agamemnon's PERCEPTION OF ACHILES. No human being should be loyal to a country for we are born with nothing and leave with nothing. If I were born in Siria and I see a dictator asking me to go and fight for him, I wouldn't do it. Am I a mercenary then for I have no loyalty to my country? Or do I have a country but I accept no Dictator/God in it?

  • @ayaxalvarado8942
    @ayaxalvarado8942 Před 6 lety +47

    Wish they allowed the Gods to play a role in the movie. Athena actually tells Achilles to put his sword away

    • @stavrospravis6254
      @stavrospravis6254 Před 6 lety +1

      thats true

    • @Dark_Voice
      @Dark_Voice Před 5 lety +8

      Im glad the opposite happened.

    • @keithw4920
      @keithw4920 Před 5 lety +9

      Actually one thing I liked about this movie is they weaved in the parts of the original story without having to admit that the gods existed. e.g. having Achilles actually be vulnerable at all parts of his body like a real human and just that he didn't pluck out that last arrow on his heel and people see it and the legend begins.

    • @keithw4920
      @keithw4920 Před 5 lety +4

      @Joseph Manno i see it the other way. The Greeks in the movie believe in the gods and some associated events gel with the plausibility of the gods but nothing in the actual events proved that the gods existed.

    • @RamaSivamani
      @RamaSivamani Před 5 lety +1

      Well Briseis is a priestess so Athena could have been speaking to Achilles to put away his sword through her.

  • @seanjoseph1700
    @seanjoseph1700 Před 4 lety +8

    " Before my time is done i will look down at your corpse and smile "

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +2

      He never does in the actual Iliad.

  • @Mario-us7ds
    @Mario-us7ds Před 4 lety +11

    2:47 lol he went quiet. I think he realized he was one remark away from being killed

  • @XxowendanxX
    @XxowendanxX Před 7 lety +21

    "you sack of wine!!"...i think achilles wanted to call him a sack of something else but the right word didn't come to him because it hadn't been invented yet

    • @Matt_0716
      @Matt_0716 Před 7 lety +12

      Owen Daniels Actually, it was a pretty insulting thing to say. Back then, wine was typically stored in the empty stomach of a pig. He was saying that Agamemnon was nothing more than pig's guts.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před 4 lety +2

      @G E T R E K T 905 yes, he is calling Agamemon a pork belly.

  • @veramelnik3882
    @veramelnik3882 Před rokem +5

    This scene pretty much completely sums up Achilles loyalty and beliefs of kings

  • @elisjongoseni3225
    @elisjongoseni3225 Před 4 lety +4

    Kings didn't kneel to Achilles!
    Kings didn't paid homages to Achilles!
    Agamemnon has some great quotes in the movie!

  • @Ox5f3759df
    @Ox5f3759df Před 4 lety +12

    Brian Cox is a great actor, but he really seems to have a talent for playing slimeballs. He's great here and as Stryker in x-men

  • @flyingraven843
    @flyingraven843 Před 4 lety +7

    0:37 Achilles in his mind, "how did you know?"

  • @michaelclark4062
    @michaelclark4062 Před 10 měsíci +5

    When you absolutely hate the character you know that the actor is doing his job well props 👏 to brian cox here

  • @emperorreign6154
    @emperorreign6154 Před 7 lety +93

    Why did Agamemnon feel it was necessary or even wise, to deliberately antagonise the best warrior in his forces? Especially one that was renowned for being a loose cannon. If it was to keep him in line, surely he must've known that was never going to work, since he expressed concerns that Achilles couldn't be controlled before they left for Troy. And that was confirmed when Achilles and his men pulled out of the war immediately afterwards. So what exactly was the point?

    • @benetesilva
      @benetesilva Před 7 lety +80

      Pride.
      Achilles didnt respect him and that was a blow to Agamemnon's pride.

    • @richfuckable
      @richfuckable Před 7 lety +1

      no more why.. ask yourself ..why are you a nerd/ loser that haven't found a single person to fuck you

    • @valhallaviking7054
      @valhallaviking7054 Před 7 lety +11

      Well consider the movie condensed 10 whole years into a matter of weeks and it's pretty clear it wouldn't make sense exactly. Imagine ten years of a loose cannon. Plus there's a whole offended deity in the real Iliad that caused trouble between the two

    • @angelopro341
      @angelopro341 Před 7 lety +7

      he was prideful, and fearful of insignificance

    • @angelopro341
      @angelopro341 Před 7 lety +1

      ***** what? what are you even saying? have you even read the Iliad ? or even watched the movie? Talk about being primitive, you're kicking and screaming for no actual reason

  • @universum9574
    @universum9574 Před 2 lety +4

    The girl he has a crush on rejects him, and the guy who hates him takes her as a slave... Imagine that.

  • @TheRealCabe
    @TheRealCabe Před 4 lety +4

    In his defense, the kings name was damn hard to remember.

  • @rochstan123
    @rochstan123 Před 6 lety +4

    Look at the fear on Agamemnon's face at the end, he's thinking "Shit I pushed him too far.)

  • @sererick7031
    @sererick7031 Před 4 lety +7

    0:15 The arrogancy of the king is magnificent 😂

  • @Bokaj01
    @Bokaj01 Před 4 lety +6

    2:03 my exact stance when defending my toilet paper in the mall

  • @XxTheJimsterxX
    @XxTheJimsterxX Před 4 lety +24

    Brian Cox absolutely nailed the pompous egotism & self-entitlement of Agememnon so fucking well.

    • @mosmeister9445
      @mosmeister9445 Před rokem

      Kinda like an ancient Logan Roy

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před rokem +1

      No, he didn't! This is an inaccurate portrayal of Agamemnon. Agamemnon was stated to be one of the most handsome, strongest and badass warriors in the Iliad.

  • @Ghidorah96
    @Ghidorah96 Před 4 lety +5

    In history/ Homer's poem, Achilles is a warlord or provincial king in his own right, so the simple soldier vs king dichotomy is cool, but not as easily separated.

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +1

      And Agamemnon is equally an amazing warrior (Book 11 of the Iliad) too unlike this inaccurate movie, not just a king.

  • @el_killorcure
    @el_killorcure Před 3 lety +15

    Even in the movie (nevermind the actual Illiad), Agamemnon is clearly seen not only in battle, but in the front lines themselves.
    He's fighting and risking his own life right alongside everyone else (remember the arrow that takes out his charriot driver and forces him to take the reins when charging after the Paris/Menelaus duel, he's clearly in range of the archers and thus in danger).
    Yet Achilles talks to him as if he were Priam (sitting out the battles in safety while having others do the fighting/bleeding/dying).
    Just saying, maybe even Pitt himself was aware of the sheer hipocrisy in Achilles' attitude and thus why he looks always so uncomfortable...

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +5

      EXACTLY!! 👏👏👏👏 This movie was so inaccurate in its portrayal of Agamemnon's battle prowess and looks who was said to have "eyes and head like Zeus, waist like Ares and chest like Poseidon" (Book 2). Enemy king Priam admired his strength and looks (Book 3), he was one of the warrior most wished for to fight Hector alongside Diomedes and Big Ajax (Book 7), he routs the Trojans to their walls without divine assistance or divine weapons (Book 11), and even Achilles later admits that Agamemnon "far surpasses us all both in strength and in throwing the spear" (Book 23).

    • @el_killorcure
      @el_killorcure Před 3 lety +1

      @@ThePaganSun Guess thebmovie forgot that Agammemnon happened to be in charge not only because he ruled the richest andvmost populous city, but also because he was the meanest MF around as well?
      Well, not sure if Diomedes surpasses him, think he does, he is the only one to tangle ass with a god (Apollo) unassisted, and live!
      Or was it Aphrodite?

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +2

      @@el_killorcure No, Diomedes was indeed helped by the gods. It was Athena that gave him enhanced strength to fight gods and he wounded Aphrodite. It was Athena who technically wounded Ares by taking Diomedes's spear and aiming it at Ares' gut. And Apollo pushed Diomedes back three times.
      Agamemnon on the other hand, was the only major hero who never needed divine weapons or divine aid in battle and he routed the Trojan to the walls on his own strength. (Book 11).
      But yes, the movie was pretty inaccurate.

    • @el_killorcure
      @el_killorcure Před 3 lety +3

      @@ThePaganSun Yeah, sounds about right.
      This thing needed a miniseries, like HBO Rome, to do it justice...

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +2

      @@el_killorcure Yes, very true!!

  • @shwjeevhussain9183
    @shwjeevhussain9183 Před 7 lety +77

    My my my King agememnon is silenced by a solider

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety

      Yeah, because this movie is inaccurate and doesn't show how it really went down. Athena pulls Achilles' hair!

    • @johnnyavalos9109
      @johnnyavalos9109 Před 2 lety

      Achilles is more than a soldier

  • @boldcounsel9406
    @boldcounsel9406 Před 2 lety +4

    No argument with you brothers. But if you don't release her you'll never see home again. Decide.
    I love that line.

  • @billaros1338
    @billaros1338 Před 5 lety +44

    Actually Achilles was a king as well, the king of Myrmidons. Agamemnon was the leader of the combined army. Like the king of kings.
    Buts he's right history remembers kings not soldiers..

    • @richardsweat4865
      @richardsweat4865 Před 4 lety

      Billaros So your telling me you’ve heard more of Agamemnon than that of Achilles?

    • @tomoglamuzina9045
      @tomoglamuzina9045 Před 4 lety +2

      @@richardsweat4865 read his comment again... Achilles was the greatest warrior who ever lived, but he was a KING! King of Myrmidones.. Peleus was a nobleman, not some peasant

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před 4 lety +5

      @@tomoglamuzina9045 he was the son of Peleus the king of Phtia.
      the term Myrmydon doesn't refer to a kingdom; his army wore black armor and looked like ants from a distance. Myrmax is the Greek term for ants.

    • @hellenick8867
      @hellenick8867 Před 4 lety +2

      @@SantomPh great that someone knows of historical facts

    • @rafaelfarias4359
      @rafaelfarias4359 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SantomPh the Myrmidon name comes from mythology - when king Aeacus of Egina lost all his men in plague sent by Hera, and his island became defenseless, he called upon Zeus. Zeus took a nest of ants and shaped them into unquestionably loyal men wearing black armor.
      To this day a Myrmidon refers to soldiers who obeys any orders without question.

  • @veramelnik1134
    @veramelnik1134 Před 5 lety +104

    "Before my time is done, I will look down on your corpse and smile"
    Aganemnon : .....pisses pants

    • @ivancolonna7520
      @ivancolonna7520 Před 4 lety +3

      Vera Melnik now that it has officially been confirmed that he should never ever be alone with the warrior Achilles.

    • @blankblank5409
      @blankblank5409 Před 4 lety +1

      His underwear one shit ton heavier

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety

      Never happens in the actual Iliad. In fact, they make up and act very respectful of each other after they make up. Achilles even acknowledged Agamemnon's as one of the best warriors (Book 23) which he was (Book 7, Book 11).

  • @elliotchinneryhinks8554

    This is one of the most underrated movies of all time FACT

  • @michi6486
    @michi6486 Před 4 lety +4

    Ironically achilles became immortalized as an ultimate weakpoint, even more so than for his heroics

  • @user-tn8rl1lc8l
    @user-tn8rl1lc8l Před 6 lety +4

    Agamemnon is such a perfect troll, he made Achilles butthurt like a savage

    • @woIfson
      @woIfson Před 2 lety +1

      And he almost paid the price while shitting his pants at the end lmao now that's savage

  • @Laz4r96
    @Laz4r96 Před 7 lety +3

    Such a great character

  • @TheDarkphx
    @TheDarkphx Před 4 lety +2

    Such a great movie!

  • @AgarthaFan
    @AgarthaFan Před 6 lety +4

    Achilles crossed the line when he called his a King a sack of wine. You could see the look on his face

    • @stripedrajang3571
      @stripedrajang3571 Před rokem +1

      Well he don't respect the king. You can go as far and say that Achilles does not consider Agememnon his king either.

  • @atepetas
    @atepetas Před 7 lety +6

    Hep kederle geçti gençlik yıllarım
    Dertlerim bitmeden hayatım soldu
    Sevgiyi tatmadan gönlüm kurudu
    Gülmeyi unuttum ölsem ne olur
    Dostum dediklerim aldattı durdu
    Gözüme gülenler şeytanca vurdu
    Attığım her adım kahırla doldu
    Nasıl yaşayayım söyleyin bana
    Nasıl geçti ömrüm sormayın bana
    Dert kederden başka ne yaşadım ki
    İsyankar sanmayın yüce Allah’ a (cc)
    İsyanım hayata sahte dostlara
    Hayaller kurardım kurmaz olsaydım
    Hepsi kabus oldu gözlerim doldu
    Yaşamaktan bıktım hayatım soldu
    Umudum kalmadı tükendim, bittim
    İnsanlar değişmiş şeytanlar kaçmış
    Duygular satılmış aşklar yalanmış
    Dost sandıklarımız bir sahtekarmış
    Ah ömrüm ah ömrüm ne çileliymiş
    Yanındayım diyen kefenim oldu
    Sevgiden bahseden tabuta koydu
    Elimden tutanlar mezara koydu
    Zifir karanlıklar toprağım oldu
    Ahiretim yandı ölsem ayrı dert
    Yaşasam ayrı dert ben ne yapsam
    Dünya dedikleri ızdıraplı yer
    Ağlamakla geçti en güzel yıllar

  • @tastygravy6880
    @tastygravy6880 Před 3 lety +3

    No need to one up each other, they both are remembered now after so many years, for different reasons of course.

  • @georgalem3310
    @georgalem3310 Před 4 lety

    The ego and drive to personal excellence and distinction that these men had!!!

  • @michaelshell8897
    @michaelshell8897 Před 2 měsíci +1

    History proved Agamemnon wrong. Every schooler knows who Achilles is, and Agamemnon remained just a character of The Iliad.

  • @sypen1
    @sypen1 Před 5 lety +3

    I love this movie

  • @babysealsareyummy
    @babysealsareyummy Před rokem +5

    Logan Roy the early years

  • @ggut82
    @ggut82 Před 4 lety

    You sack of wine!! Best put down ever !!

  • @agent_meister477
    @agent_meister477 Před 10 měsíci

    Such an underrated movie.

  • @marlonquintana3466
    @marlonquintana3466 Před 3 lety +3

    Achilles: "You sack of wine!"
    Agamemnon: 🤔

  • @doubledutch5708
    @doubledutch5708 Před 6 lety +6

    "No arguments with you brothers but if you dont release her youll never see home again"
    Best line ever.

  • @georgebushaway5833
    @georgebushaway5833 Před 4 lety

    My favourite film !!

  • @rickyfitz9036
    @rickyfitz9036 Před 3 lety +2

    The last of the good ancient war movies before 300 really glamorized the action and over abused the cgi for this genre

  • @Truck_Kun_Driver
    @Truck_Kun_Driver Před 4 lety +19

    Achilles would have cut through all of them like carving a cake.

    • @cant8160
      @cant8160 Před 4 lety +2

      He is Achilles not barristan selmy

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety

      Not Agamemnon who in the actual epic was an equally powerful warrior (Book 11).

    • @vk3567
      @vk3567 Před 3 lety

      @@ThePaganSun He wasn't lol. According to Homer Achilles was way better than any other soldier who faught in the war.

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety

      @@vk3567 Yes, Agamemnon was almost on Achilles' level. Well, Homer contradicted himself several times. He claims Big Ajax was 2nd only to Achilles but yet Big Ajax (who was more of a defensive fighter) never had an aristeia unlike Diomedes, Agamemnon, Patroclus and Achilles. And in the funeral games for Patroclus, Big Ajax never won first prize in anything even with Achilles sitting out. He ties with Odysseus in wrestling, ties with Diomedes in armed fight and loses to someone else in shot putting. Agamemnon though is the only major warrior to rout the Trojans to their very walls without divine weapons or divine help.

    • @vk3567
      @vk3567 Před 3 lety

      @@ThePaganSun Homer states clearly that Achilles had no competition in the trojan war. It is true that Agamemnon was a good fighter like all kings back then and fought in the front lines but he definitelly wasn't near the level of Achilles,Hector,Diomedes and Ajax.

  • @zjust23
    @zjust23 Před 6 lety +14

    What a shameful king,this movie never gets old.

    • @Honey0158
      @Honey0158 Před 6 lety

      Moses Eliakim Reminds me of how some people let power go to their head.

    • @holypaladin4657
      @holypaladin4657 Před 6 lety +5

      Moses Eliakim they butchered Agamemnon in this movie.
      Agamemnon is portrayed as a coward in this movie, but in book 11 of the Iliad he went on a rampage during a battle, slaughtering multiple Trojan men of note, including 2 sons of Priam.
      "So under Agamemnon fell the heads of flying Trojans".
      "His victorious hands reek'd, red with gore".
      He only stopped because he received a bad wound in his arm (of course he beheaded the man who wounded him, and left his body on the field on top of the man's brother's corpse) and the pain was likened to a woman giving birth. Hector fled the battle in fear of his life in the face of Agamemnon, only returning after Agamemnon left. To Hector's credit, he did manage to turn the battle around quite well and kill multiple Greek men of note, even after Agamemnon single-handedly routed the Trojan army.

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun Před 3 lety +1

      @@holypaladin4657 Thank you!! Exactly!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 And even Achilles later admits it (after he and Agamemnon make up) that Agamemnon "far surpasses us all as the best in strength and in throwing the spear" (Book 23).
      And the one who wounded him in Book 11 only did so because he came up from behind ("unseen") by Agamemnon as Agamemnon was looting a body. And Agamemnon is the only major warrior to fight without ever needing divine assistance or divine weapons. Even Hector had to be kept away from Agamemnon by Zeus!

  • @paul_rymar
    @paul_rymar Před 3 lety +1

    "Be careful 'king of kings' first you need the victory" - the line was golden 1:20

  • @bridgetwadane4392
    @bridgetwadane4392 Před 2 měsíci

    I love Achilles decisiveness and immediate move into attack posture!

  • @CoolGuyMcGruff
    @CoolGuyMcGruff Před 8 lety +25

    Wait...those two soldiers names are Nefarious and Demon!? That's badass!

    • @toufegariouogios
      @toufegariouogios Před 5 lety +8

      the second one is Kimon...this name we still use it in Greece even nowadays...