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Mark Ogden and Jack Rosser discuss the latest on the row over FA Cup replays being scrapped from the 1st round next season.
FA Cup replays from the first round proper have been scrapped from next season; all rounds will be played on weekends, exclusive of Premier League fixtures; the final has been moved to penultimate weekend of season; Premier League to increase lower-league funding to £133m per season
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Take Lincoln for example - as a Non-League, they beat Ipswich in 2018 on a Replay, then proceeded to beat Burnley at Turf Moor and went on to have a massively lucrative tie against Arsenal in the Quarter Finals. The money of all that run was invested in a new training centre. 6 years later, they are fighting for promotion to the Championship.
Replays are essential for the FA Cup.
Man...those mickey mouse clubs are not relevant lol allow it
@@jakerichards665 YOU'RE not relevant
@@jakerichards665 Without non-League, Premier League would die.
@@CollideWithTheSlope can't take anyone with that username seriously...move on with your day kid it's not deep
@YeOldeFootballChannel nah PL would be alright and less games too which is good for player health
Keep replays, remove the international break for worthless friendly games instead.
Why not remove national teams at the same time
If the small clubs don't take a stand and boycott now, the big clubs will just walk all over them again next time.
Degrading one of the great sporting tournaments that unifies the entire English football community will speed up a European Super League... that's what's driving the decision and the EFL are powerless.
They can’t do anything, their hands are tied. Losing replays caused them a lot already and you are suggesting they just ditched all of the revenue from the cup?
The fans would need to stand for their team here sadly.
In my opinion the FA cup lost its magic when they moved the semi finals to Wembley, I grew up in the 70s and 80s where the semi finals were always played at Villa park or Hillsboro, and occasionally old Trafford, I also remember FA cup final replays on the Thursday night (Man utd v Crystal Palace). Also the final should be back at 3pm like it used to be, I’m old enough to remember the Match of the day coverage starting at 12, with Saint and Greevsy, etc. It’s sad how much the magic of the cup has declined.
Totally agree with everything you said
Absolutely
I think the FA Cup changed when Man United pulled out of the FA Cup to take part in a World Club Championship in 2000.
I know a while ago, but Plymouth getting a replay back at home v Liverpool paid for a massive part of their stadium rebuild. Keep the cup the same for the smaller clubs!!!
No why...there's no interest or entertainment watching quality teams wasting time and getting injured against lesser players
@@jakerichards665 No interest? No entertainment? What about the "small club" fans? Not everyone plays in Europe every year, only 7 of the 92 in the leagues do, so why cater to them?!
@@jakerichards665 Plastic football fan u just a glory hunter
So it's about money,not for footballing reasons.
@@jefri4176 kind of yes. The money helps support the clubs in the lower leagues.
As a supporter of a Premier League club, replays should stay
If premier league clubs don’t want replays then just win in the first tie. Simple! Already at a massive advantage spending millions more than us efl clubs anyway!
Fully support a boycott of the FA Cup. Let’s see how the cup works when only those who the rules are changed to favor participate
The FA Cup has been in gradual decline since as far back as the early 90s.
This could well be the final nail in the coffin. Money and corporate greed have killed this great competition.
When I came back to England in 1993, players like Klinsmann said English people rates FA cup more than domestic league title or Champions League. And it's true because idiotic English supporter themselves said it. English football was crap back then.
FA after hearing EFL boycott: So we are having a PL only FA cup seasons.
😂😂
Typical Prem clubs crying about playing too many games..Thats why you have squads...Suck it up and get on with it..
... and stop flying half way round the world during the summer 'break' just for money.
The FA Cup used to be so special. How have the FA made such a mess of it?
Personally i'd like to see the League Cup exclude any team that starts the season in a European competition. You'd still have massive Premier League club ties in it for lower league clubs, different winners each year. Less games for the "Greedy 6" and most importantly the clubs that get to the final would actually want to win it instead of it being viewed as a minor trophy and a consolation prize for failing elsewhere.
Do that and The FA Cup could remain in its current format.
We woujd probably never have heard of John Motson if it wasn't for FA Cup replays
Let’s face it , it’s because the bigger clubs are playing in Europe this is where it all started from , now I’m a fan of one of these clubs BUT I’m totally against scraping FA Cup replays , the European competitions have changed putting pressure on the fixture list but our domestic cups need to be honoured regardless even if it means blooding youngsters from the U23’s.
Congested fixtures? Thats why you have a full squad and not just a team.
Manchester United and Newcastle were out of Europe before they even entered the FA Cup of which they join in at round 3 whereas some clubs have to do 4 qualifying rounds just to reach round 1 so they didn't have any of this so called fixture congestion this season
Notice all the journalists in the pocket of the prem and their own little gravy train shouting but ultimately supporting Prem. The journos luv their expenses paid freebie jaunts around the world and getting paid for it.
exactly. these 2 on this Sky piece are shills. absolute disgrace
Just wait.... within our football it will soon be no relegation or promotion to protect themselves financially.
The PL and FA make me sick! When's the Super League starting?
The FA and Premier League should be ashamed of themselves..The oldest cup competition and they want to disrespect it.
Keep replays for smaller teams. It'll benefit them alot
This is so unfair on the smaller clubs. Replays have to stay!
Yeah good...about time replays left never made sense
same as you ....
The only way to put pressure on premier league clubs is for all lower leagues supporters is to cancel their Sky sports subscriptions
Then with less revenue going to premier league teams it will maybe make them think?
If they give the EPL clubs a bit more TV money, then they won't say a word .
Hilda Ogden looking rough there. Worried about his MU team facing a replay against Coventry 😂
These two are supposed to be journalists and are talking utter crap and contradicting themselves with every sentence. They are just big club sycophants who seem to tell us that in the next five years the game is going to change to much but don’t say how other than to say fifa and uefa are going to introduce more competitions that will only effect the big clubs so proving the point of the protest.
Easy solution. Return to the European Champions Cup as a straight knock out competition and the the cup winners cup as a straight knock out competition. Send the conference league back to the void. Don’t reduce the domestic games which are what most fans can afford to attend but scrap the endless growth in european games which only the prawn sandwich brigade can really afford to attend. This would also reduce the income of the top clubs and provide in the process both sanity to costs and wages and better equality across the premier league in particular.
How about as suddenly drawing a game is the honourable thing to do instead of actually trying to win, we ban wins and losses in leagues so ever game can only conclude when it's a draw. Then each game gets played AGAIN multiple times. Plus, we ban results in the world cup so we just keep replaying those games too....forever...the hysteria is ridiculous
@@philiphaseldine1135 willing to bet that you support a premier league club
Too much fixture congestion? Then get rid of the Nations League, and/or if you need to make any changes to the domestic game get rid of the Carabao Cup before messing with the FA Cup. Otherwise deal with it. You've got a squad of players to use for a reason.
And how many matches do you attend each season?
Even matchgoing fans hate replays, it's an extra fixture and extra expense.
It's ok for telly addicts who want to sit at home watching football but YOU try going to a game 200 miles away midweek.
And more European games are going ahead next season, no complaints from the big clubs there
If they want to abandon replays, after 120 mins, if scores are level, the team lower down the pyramid goes through. No penalties. If you can't win in 120 mins, off you trot.
makes you laugh too many games when teams have hudge squads
Surely the obvious answer would have been to allow Clubs in European Competitions to withdraw from the FA Cup rather than removing replays which are part of the fabric of the FA Cup
So if clubs are really successful, they get penalised by not being able to play in their own domestic cup. Yeah makes perfect sense...how about just relegate them if they win the league then?
@@philiphaseldine1135 I’m not talking about penalising them, I’m saying they should have the option of withdrawing if they wish to without getting the amount of abuse United got when they chose to play in the World Club Championship instead
LFC fan. One of the few things I disagree with Klopp about. A pan, non EPL boycott would take care of the problem pretty quickly. I'd even hope the likes of Luton, Burnley would join in. Don't pull the ladder up people. You may very well need it yourself soon enough.
I think a better way to reduce fixtures would surely be to take premier league clubs out of the League cup?. Make it an exclusive Championship and below competition.
Far too football being played players need more rest replays should be scrapped, however the f.a and PL need to come up with a solution to compensate the lower league clubs for potential loss of money
Replays help the smaller clubs bring in revenue thus helping the game as a WHOLE! Bring back the replays, if we need to reduce toll that the players face with the amount of fixtures why not stretch the games over an additional week or two and make clubs do a shorter preseason tour if any. That gives players additional rest and helps with the calendar clutter
Pre season is just fitness building and trying new players so you cant cut that out so its ether lower leuge clubs loose money via replays or by canning the efl cup and haveing fewer promotion spots and makeing the premier league 18 teams
How about giving the highest finishing Club that doesn't qualify for Europe the last place in the Confederations Cup?!
They are taking the glamour out of the FA Cup.
Its like everything in Britain, dissenting voices but no unified action.
Football is finished not the same anymore no wonder fans are now watching lower league football Sky sports do one
No, football will carry on while other people want to live in the past. Never heard such moaning
everyone was in favor of scrapping replays until the media said people were upset and now everyone is against it. personally i couldnt be happier. when you cater to the lowest common denominator it drags everyone else down. damaging the entire sport for the sake of a few small clubs is just idiotic. Of course, no consideration is given to the fact that english teams already do badly in europe because of playing more games and having worse fitness than every other league. But its all fine as long as teams like woking get a few extra quid i guess
The small clubs need some respect around here and they need to fight back 💪
So many excuses. To many or not enough games etc. More games means more players will get to play and fans will get to watch all players step on the field. We dont want to see the same 11 playing every week. Reason for having a big squad.
From the third round, all the clubs outside of the Premier League, when drawn against a PL club, should send a team onto the pitch to fulfil the fixtures, but not play at all as a protest. The money clubs will win all the matches 1-0, but there will be nothing to show on television and the competition will have no credibility. That is slowly happening anyway.
They just want to kill the best competition in the world
Why do clubs not in the final get tickets for the the final?
Why does some sunday pub team from Cornwall get tickets for man city v man utd?
These little clubs are always moaning and it's always about money. But ask any lower league fan what he thinks of the premier league and the response is"its all about money" 😂
The FA cup Means more to teams below top 4, teams/ financially doped state owned teams outside it find it pointless due to them being removed from things like HEART< PASSION< HISTORY< HOPE and just straight up Football Underdogs giving the big boys are run for their money.
On the grand scheme of things £133m is sweet FA
It seems like there a table that people sit there and every couple of months they decide a way to ruin football for absolutely no reason.
Good
no club, is going to boycott the competition - especially when there are huge chances of playing huge stadiums given huge revenue
clubs that are lucky to break even financially, would dissolve pretty quickly
WE the fans hold the power. And more fans follow the 732 clubs that have been shafted by this announcement than the 'big 6' or the whole of the Premier League. BOYCOTT THE F.A. CUP until they bring back Replays in every Round.
The FA became joke when it sold the cup to tnt sport. Guys, there’s enough money in football, leave the fa cup on the bbc/itv so everyone can watch it.
stop calling them big clubs. they aren't big clubs. they are just clubs with money. who simply just want more money.
BOYCOTT it, as an Everton fan I think premier league are now taking everything over
What a joke these whining PL teams complaining about to many games yet there the first to bite your hand of at the expanded champions league Europa league World club club will only happen every 4 years anyway. whats wrong with the smaller clubs having replays in the 1st and second round how does that effect PL clubs it dosen't there not involved in those rounds if its because all games must be completed at weekends that's just crazy. THE FA are a joke taking grounds like Villa park HIllsborough from the semi finals reducing replays from the final semi finals 6th and 5 round now scrapping all replays there a disgrace and have been for years. And what a disgrace that the PL and FA didn't including the EFL in the talks, in September last year with RIck Parry and 3 other EFL members on the board the FA said they did agree but there lying and they know there in the wrong . I Know if they boycott the FA cup maybe its more cause more harm then good that the EFL clubs pull out but some one has stand up to those greedy tossers of the PL and the FA
If the small clubs took a stand the FA wouldn’t have choice as they wouldn’t have a competition.
SCRAP INTERNATIONAL FRIENDLIES FFS!!!
Just make Pl teams play all fa Cup ties away except when they draw each other
Sky intensifies its reporting because they’re bricking it from the revenue loss😂
Sky dont show fa cup games
The rich clubs get richer and the small clubs get poorer...
This is a disgrace. FA Cup is the oldest domestic cup in world football, tradition should be prioritised over anything else, stop changing the rules of our beloved game with moronic decisions.
But replays haven't been in all rounds for a while. Why suddenly now this is the worst thing to ever happen is beyond me. Never thought they were a good idea. It's a knockout competition. Draws belong in leagues, not cups.
If ya home or away and you earn a replay you should be able to then take that team to your own patch or earn the away trip to the mighty prem teams that's the joy of the fa cup EFL play lots more games than prem, the premier their squads should be able to cope with extra games because they have bigger squads fa and the premier are a joke
I hope the efl all come together and do boycott it completely ,theirs 3 competitions that should be scrapped asap which are the Milky Way cup the uefa conference league and the nations league theirs also no need for a shitty club World Cup it’s tinpot and irrelevant
But how on earth would that be respecting the completion? You can't have it both ways!
@@philiphaseldine1135 the efl should put a middle finger up until everyone gets a vote or the lower level clubs recieve more money filtered down the poorer shouldn’t become poorer because a minority of clubs think it’s a great idea the pl and fa showed no respect towards them
Latest proposals for changes to the FA Cup:
2024/25
No replays.
Scrap all the early rounds and start with the Quarter Finals, featuring the top 8 teams in the Premier League.
The 8 teams competing will only feature their reserve teams (no real change there then).
2025/26
Scrap all the knockout rounds and just have the Final, featuring the 2 clubs with the biggest bank balances. (That is usually what happens anyway).
2026/27 (to the forseeable future)
Don't bother with the final. The FA Cup will be awarded to the club with the biggest bank balance.
These proposals will save a lot of travelling for all clubs and will reduce the demands on the Premier League's top players. Makes a lot of sense.
Hope that clarifies things.
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bound to be an unpopular opinion, but why should unsustainable businesses be supported by successful businesses? if i own a corner shop and no one buys in my shop Tesco wouldn't pay my bills. Everyone so proud of the football pyramid, but i dont see why we need so many lower leagues and small clubs. if you support a low league team its your responsibility to back them financially, they should charge what they need, they get the backing from those who care and if its not enough to survive then nature takes its course.
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Scrap the replays for premier league clubs but give 100% profits of each game to the lower league clubs. Bet the prem clubs would kick of and cry
FA should be investigated for the fixed FA Cup semi final.