How BAD Are The Detroit Pistons Actually?
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- čas přidán 29. 12. 2023
- A record-breaking losing streak that will be in the lore of NBA history forever. Let's take a detailed look at the everything that's wrong with the Detroit Pistons, the worst team in the NBA.
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That's not a pick and roll, that's basketball terrorism.
Brick and roll
27 straight losses and roll
As a pistons fan I can't begin to tell you how painful this is 😭
Yeah,the only good thing going for us Pistons fans is that the Bulls have no future. 😂
@@DKtrek21lmao right they're just as lost as us 😂 but fortunately for them they got a decent coach and a competent owner
I’m a heat fan. I don’t personally know what yall going through but I can say it’s only one way to go from here ⬆️
And Cade is Him 🔥
You think thats bad, imagine being a Filipino basketball fan. Thats true pain...
Edit: heres the reason why:
Tldr: Despite being super obssesed with Basketball, we have never produced a local NBA player, routinely underachieve in international basketball to the point we havent touched the Olympics since the early 70s where wo would get crushed by milk men due to how horrible local development is.
I wish I added more context in my original comment but Filipinos are mega super religiously obssesed with this sport, yet despite this we have never produced a SINGLE LOCAL NBA player thats FULLY ASIAN or even mixed (Which is why Clarkson and Jalen Green don't count because they are American born and raised and hell arent even 1/2 Filipino). Our team routinely underperforms in the international stage mainly due to our lack of talent, genetics, and horribly outdated coaching (the amount of times I have to hear stories about foreign coachers arguing with local coaches is maddening).
For fucks sakes our greatest achievements so far mostly involves losing one decent game against Serbia and beating South Korea after they whooped our ass for a decade. Then theres all the bans and fight against Australia.
Our local big league which is still basing their teams on corporations instead of cities or provinces (Imagine calling the Los Angeles Lakers the McDonalds Lakers) is shockingly outdated and corrupt. The biggest team rivalry isnt just between basketball teams nonono its between 2 corporations: the San Miguel Corporation and the Manny Pangalinan Group, and the each own 3 teams in the PBA, 3! So its no surprise that most of the teams in the PBA are essentially just farms for a bigger team owned by either corp. Then theres that stupid rule where playets have to play in the local g league before they get drafted to the PBA, which is why most rookies tend to be in their mid to late 20s. Then theres the fact that PBA teams have started to give up on local talents and are just relying on foreign mixed players, adding further strain on local development. Its so bad that local players are having a exodus and are now playing limited minutes in Japan and South Korea.
All of this underachieving basically make us the laughingstock of international basketball, where we get roasted constantly, first for our basketball identity, then our heights, genetics, and dick sizes, then just being a third world south east asian country before hearing the same old story about how they fucked this Filipina chick once, its exhausting.
Imagine Brazil's obssesion with Soccer but the underachieving of Indonesia. I guess thats what we get when a country thats not known for being tall picks a sport thats so dependent on good height and explosive genetics huh...
Its not going to get better, we all know how much we love to shit on China's basketball with the all "get ready to speak Chinese" shit so imagine that but worse.
Monty went from coaching the #1 team a few seasons ago, to coaching the actual worst NBA team ever. Damn.
Proof positive that coaches are only as good as the players they have.
monty was the reason why the didnt won
@@dataphoenix8004 facts! 💯💯💯 hes not a good x’s and o’s type of coach. And he will play “his guys” *cough Landry Shamet* over players that can actually help a team win.
@@Atmos_JSAdon’t remind me about shamet again bro
Win percentage wise!! But this is not the worst team ever!!!💯
Yeah I knew the Celtics weren’t about to lose to the Detroit Pistons
But truly I feel bad for these young guys , this is like the definition of rock bottom , when ur literally gonna end 2023 on a 28 game losing streak, that’s really self explanatory
I mean for real “sell the team” is even crazy enough
them boys getting paid to bounce a ball.. im sure they good
I'm not a Pistons fan. Yet it's hard to watch, it would be even harder for them to win a game because nobody wants to be the team that broke their losing streak.
Toronto Raptors did what the Boston Celtics could not.
@daquan6656 you mad cause your life sucks
From Badboy Era from 1990s & 2000s to this? I'm so sad that this team will go into this kind of scenario. 😔
But they are still badboys 🤷🏼♂️
@@ich__nicht more like worst boys than bad boys.
Oh they're still bad-boy okay
Ever since they traded Chauncey and acquired Iverson, up to the time they signed Ben Gordon, The pistons lost their culture. Sure they said they'll change it as time went on, back in 2012 I think, but no one is buying in, especially if the front office doesn't know what they're doing. The franchise is built on a foundation of defense, from the Bad boys to the 04 champs, not a shred of effort attempting to rebuilding that defensive culture foundation is being put out. Only Duren, Thompson, Ivey, and Cunningham can fit that mold with this roster, the rest? questionable. Not even sure if Monty is really a great coach, his resume includes all time great players. Bring back that defensive culture, the culture the city buys in.
Bad coaching is not always apparent on these types of teams unless you watch all the games because it seems like a normal thing for a young developing roster to lack cohesion and play poorly throughout the year.
Roster construction is also legit terrible. Can’t put that on Monty. Lot of the blame goes squarely on the GM and the scouts
Troy Weaver is the problem
I'd argue that Cade is in an even worse situation than LeBron in Cleveland, not even that LBJ could save this Piston team
He can tho. He would take this team to the playoffs if he was there instead of cade
Oh Cade 100% is in a worse situation than young LeBron or even Garnett in Minnesota. You can argue he still should make them at least kinda competitive, but there are maybe only 3 guys each generation that can take a team to the playoffs by themselves, its on the GM and coach to build a team that makes you think you have one of those guys.
Let’s be honest, he probably could. Not saying Cade is a bad player but LeBron is on another level.
lebron didnt save cleveland he left for miami
@@dataphoenix8004 i mean, who wouldn't?? Bosh was free agent, Wade is free agent, Tyson Chandler is free agent and ray allen is free agent. Most specifically, Bosh and Wade actually talked to LeBron that they're interested in playing for Cleveland and LeBron went to both the GM and the owner to reel them over. You know what they said?? They're already raking huge amounts of money with just LeBron, and that they don't need to spend it on another star. So there goes LeBron to Miami, and so is Bosh.
If the Raptors lose to the Pistons. They will have the most embarrassing loss in history
А кто по -твоему должен им проиграть тогда
Raptors are already an NBA embarrassment
As a Raptors fan I would not be surprised
@@janoycresnova9156Idk how you say this when the Hornets exist
Fire the coach
Monty has always been a mid coach let’s be honest I never understood the hype surrounding him
Giannis completely agrees with you 👍
He’s only been good if he’s paired with cp3 for some reason
He has been good becouse of the organization ex Sun's owner created.
So he hasn’t been good, the organization was good as you stated 🤦🏾♂️
@@icupnibba3533Exactly, I have been telling Bounty Williams fans that, but you get attacked by his Minions for telling the truth.
His coaching record is 🗑 without CP3.
They should run the 7 seconds or less offense. These dudes are young. They should be sprinting down court as fast as possible.
It sucks for Cade but a shakeup is in order. These players are too lost on the court, they need a hardened vet or at least a coach who knows what the hell he's doing without CP3.
If anything, MJ's probably smoking a huge ass cigar and is betting a cool mil that the Pistons will take the "Worst team in NBA history" title off of his '11-'12 Bobcats 😂
cade is also part of the problerm... its like hes fkn before games he couldnt get lift in alot of his shots
Andy lifted the curse
It's official: the Pistons are the most feared team in the league. No one wants to lose to them and break the streak 💀
I was there for the game against the Jazz. The sell the team chants were so incredibly loud. I’ve never experienced anything like that before.
Celtics were like: "Nah we ain't losing for this guys today" 😅
I’ve watched a few of the games during the streak and they just look like a team that has zero confidence in themselves and in each other. They definitely aren’t as bad as their record says, as far as skill goes. I just feel like they don’t have the chemistry they need to win. They have lost so many games in crunch time where your team chemistry matters most. Monty is an average coach but definitely not the right fit for a young team like this.
🤫It's all part of the plan.
Step 1: Sink
Step 2: Get Bronny by all means.
Step 3: Get Lebron by default. (Circa Feb, 2022)
Step 4: Give the ball to LeBron and let him dunk all day while everyone else plays defense.
If that doesn't get you to the Finals🤣
Honestly think the Spurs are even worse. It's clockwork. Spurs get out to a nice start then Victor gets subbed out at around the 6 minute mark, Zach Collins comes in, and the Spurs blow their lead in a couple of minutes. Victor comes back and steadies the ship in the second and it's a close game at the half, a couple of points either direction. Third quarter starts and other team is on fire but the Spurs are still keeping the game within 6 or 7 points. 6 minute mark Victor gets subbed out and 2-3 minutes later all of a sudden it's a 20 point game, game over. They get wrecked nearly every third quarter.
I still can't believe they're 0-28 after starting 2-1; with a 2 game win streak mind you. Even their first loss against the Heat in the 1st game of the season was just 1 point, yet here we are at 0-28.
Every game we lose is by like 6 points we barely losing bro that doesnt make us worst of all time yo
Its wild they have two #2 pick centers on their roster but neither are even starting, hell neither are even getting more than 20 mins a game
Pistons have a lot of problems - poor drafting, horrible roster construction, questionable coaching decisions and plethora of mistakes which result into unforced turnovers. They'll also have to figure out whether to pay Cade this off season or trade him and start over... again.
Everything you said is valid and accurate but for me, most of the blame falls on Monty. They were never going to be a good team this season, but to only win 2 games and be on the longest losing streak in history... it's disgraceful. Monty Williams has no idea what he's doing. He's giving minutes to all the wrong players, and putting his faith in guys who are clearly detriments to the team over guys who can actually help. Guys going from not seeing the floor to playing 20+ minutes, t's impossible to be consistent or good with such inconsistent minutes.
curious, but would u like to share which players in the pistons team he shld give the minutes to instead who u think can actually help? i mean they have joe harris n alec burks who by right can stretch the floor, but they are like shooting at 29 n 32%
@@breezeofnoon When I say they were never going to be a good team, I mean their roster construction is absolute garbage. They're overloaded at two key positions, PG and C, and like Andy mentioned, no one has a defined role. Marcus Sasser showed a lot of promise to start the season, he's just a rookie so he's going to be spotty but his play when he was actually getting minutes was so much better than their current guard play. Monty has favoured Killian Hayes for the majority of the season though, over Ivey and Sasser, only recently has Hayes' minutes been cut. Hayes is terrible. It seems like he's just throwing shit at the wall to see what'll stick. Kevin Knox is getting a lot of minutes right now, he went from DNP, to 9 minutes, to DNP, to DNP, to 24 minutes. He plays/has played guys like Alec Burks and Isaiah Livers for significant minutes who are horrendous detriments to the team based on their play time and time again. A good coach would develop some sort of a system and find a role for his players. It just seems like he has no idea what he's doing at all. Lots of players started the season off poorly (for their standards) but have since picked it up. LaMelo Ball before he got injured, Trae Young, Julius Randle, Austin Reaves... random examples off the top of my head. I'm not here to tell you Joe Harris can solve all of their problems, but to pretty much give up on him entirely when two of their biggest issues are spacing and shooting... it just doesn't make sense. Teams like the Pacers have an identity. Their going to kill you on offense, and you're probably going to score on the next possession. They've heavily favoured a high pace, guns blazing style of play where they're just gonna kill you so badly on offense that their horrible defense won't matter. Joe Harris fits that role, I'm not really a big fan of his and never was, but my point is at least establish some sort of identity or plan. We're going to try and fix this issue and that issue. His allocation of minutes only demonstrates to me that he has no idea what he's doing at all. Just go look at nearly every player's minutes this season and how inconsistent they are. DNP to 20+ minutes, to stretches of playing 15+ minutes, to suddenly playing less than 10 or DNP. Those DNPs are not injuries either (for the most part), they are just not playing because Monty is deciding not to play them. To some degree, I understand the throwing stuff at the wall to see what'll stick approach when you can't find a win to save your life, but at least establish a role for your players and an identity for your team before you do that. Can anyone honestly identity what his strategy or gameplan is going into games? Because I can't at all and you can with nearly every other team in the league. 8:47 - 9:02 pretty much sums it up perfectly. Forgot to talk about him playing Ausar Thompson less as well lately but this is already too long of a comment so forget it lol. You get the point.
I don’t think they’re as bad as their record. I think the streak started with just some coincidental bad luck but as the streak grew no team wanted to be the team it ended against. I’m not saying they’re good, they’re really, really bad but not 27 game losing streak bad
They are 28 loosing streak bad.
Well if the have to play everyone for the rest of the year with them so hard because they don’t want the streak ended on them they might have to look at it like Goku in the hyperbolic chamber for the rest of the season and come back stronger next year. Because every game is going to be intense until they win.
2:05 is when the video finally starts
Andy about to jinx this streak posting the vid just before the raptors game
Cade has averaged 26/6.5/5 on 52/34/82 over his last 10. He is showing what he is capable of even with how bad the rest of the Pistons have been. You'd imagine he would be more consistent if he had anything to work with.
At best he is Donovan Mitchell
Who here after they finally won?
Here
Turnovers...4th quarter awareness on both ends of the court (relevant for the games that are at least close)...turnovers again. They make turnovers at LITERALLY the worst possible time in the game. It's like they're written in the script
Got the dub today tho 😱
The worst part is that they will keep wasting more and more top 4 picks. They are the black hole of the league. Once you get in, your career is doomed.
Bad enough to not understand that they will not attract players with how the organization is currently and will have to overpay any and every one and they are already overpaying the coach that made his historic debut with tying the longest losing streak in NBA history.
They finally won the same day this video gets posted.
Lol i am not surprised as the best players team up that the baddest teams get even worse. The NBA has to many teams with too many all star players nowadays. Thats the Problem
They're not really getting blown out, they're just absolutely horrible in clutch situations and with closing out games. In the current 28 game losing streak, 11 of them were by 10 or fewer points. If even like 4 or 5 of those games ended up going the other way, I think the Spurs would be widely considered the worst team this year.
Their statistics would be comparable to a 13-69 team, not as bad as 92-93 Dallas, the worst team I've ever seen. They should have only won 8 games but found some wins late in the season (they won 3 of their last 6 games when they had an 8-68 record going into them)
Stay consistent Andy fr
"Existence is pain" - Pistons fans, probably
SD/LA Charger fans: *Am I a joke to you?*
Krispy Flakes right now lol
As writing of this comment
The Pistons snapped the streak so they’re on the winning column
Before the start of the season I thought they would be bottom three to five teams in the league but I didn’t think they would be this bad in general
Them not getting wemby killed them!!!
Piston fans be Pistoff.
Tbh i'm not sure how they managed to fill a full roster having only 1 very good young player (Cade) and one ok scoring veteran (bojan), while everybody else is a 60-70 overall
I think the biggest problem the pistons had is lack of confidence, being too passive on the offensive end and the defensive ends and being competitive on a young team. They had all cards in with the veterans especially Bojan who has been a big stud for the team. They should get rid of Joe Harris and Burks as they both had the worst season in their career. they drafted very good prospects in Ivey, Duren and Ausar Thompson but their weakenesses is shooting respectively for those recent prospects. Lack of shooting, bad plays, turnovers, defense and rebound are the biggest problems for the team. It's time that before the deadline they should make some moves that will hopefully turn around for the team. It will be tough for them to lose more games and if they are able to make a good trade deadline we can see them turn around. The previous trades we saw from the pistons are good and bad at the same time like for an example trading Drummond for basically nothing, Losing Griffin due to buyout.
For some reason, Monty loves hayes, burks and livers, and these 3 are the worst performers on the pistons
I bet Hayes is a guy who performs really well in practice and he wants him to get comfortable in games. He just looks so nervous all the time
The Pistons just snapped their 28 game losing streak against the Raptors.
I been waiting on you to do the pistons historic losing streak ….like you been reading my mind.
I feel bad for bogdanovic. Dude is awesome but always finds himself on some of the worst teams ever
Go for the all time record! You can do it Pistons!
Lol best comment
The streak is over. Came back here again after the Pistons snap their losing streak? Anyone else here?
I hate being a pistons fan
What about Ivey he’s actually a better pg than Cunningham he should be a sg instead and let Ivey shine
Sell the team is crazy!
Who's here after they finally won😂
Here
The Pistons needed to be sacrificed so the Lions could win the NFC North this year.
Do they need to be winless for the Lions to get to the Super Bowl? And completely dissolve for them to win it?! 😂😂😂
@@tromboneman4517 Contract's already been signed in blood! 😄
and then they finally won 😂
Wow this was spot on
Ausar is a great rebounder and defender. Let’s not act like he’s a “Jack of all trades, master of none”
he still young got a lot of time
Ausar isn't a master at shooting though, so he's right in a way.
He’s literally airballing threes
Always told the best way to make a quiche is have a good crust good shooters but they have size and that’s something that they need to start using.
Tied not broken the record. It's getting broke today vs Toronto
Not that I'm suggesting this but perhaps they can still turn the corner around just like the 2017 Miami Heat. Yeah I know it's impossible for this Pistons team to replicate what that Heat team did but again I was just suggesting it.
Have you considered doing a video on the 1979-80 Detroit Pistons, which was the worst season in their franchise history...at least, before this one?
Days like this makes me proud to be a Bulls fan
If Carmelo was drafted by the Pistons in the '03 draft class, Detroit would've been an nba Dynasty. While the Wallaces and Tayshaun Prince take care of defense, Carmelo would do most of the scoring with Billups being the facilitator. 3 nba title as a result
Franchise died when Bill Davidson did.
They might as well go 2-80 this season to be honest😂...
The Piss-tons
Come on man give em credit they can eek out some wins vs the wizards and maybe finish 4-78
they’re winning against the spurs, so 3-80
@@tabletuser123Your math 😢
@@tabletuser123 I hope they can win another and reach 4-80
This is how it feels to be a twolves fan, yes we are the 1st seed but regularly we are not that team 😢
All of DET just wants wing stop
Sell the team?😭💀
If a warriors and im real nervous about playing Detroit if that streaking is still going
Well the pistons dont exactly have anyone other the Cade who you can play half way decently
Duren and Bogdanovich are nice they just need more shooters
2003 Tigers
2008 Lions
2023-24 Pistons
Detroit has some of the worst sports teams in the histories of their pro leagues.
2019-20 Red Wings too
How could you not mention the tear Cade has been on recently? He dropped 40 points twice in his last 5 games. How many other NBA players have dropped 40+ twice in 5 games recently? Not many
#1 reason why they are losing
finally they broke the streak yesterday. They should get some help for Cade else he will leave
Cade on the 23-24 Detroit Pistons is like Calvin Johnson on the 0-16 Detroit Lions
I feel bad for Monty
you made a video and they got a win finally 😂
Monty Williams might be well-liked and calm under pressure, but his reputation was highly inflated after he coached the Suns, a team that had a ton of talent. Without players of that caliber, his coaching abilities have gotten exposed. I'm curious if the Pistons fire him in spite of his contract, because most coaches would be toast as a result of a record like this. But after years of existing at the bottom of the NBA, it's clear their front office doesn't know what they're doing.
Headz should b rolln in Detroit!! Fire Monty & trade half tha team! This is inexcusable & needs 2 change... immedi8ly!! ✌🏽😐❤️🏀
What you really need to ask is how bad every other team that loses to them is. Toronto must be a special kind of bad to lose to a team that's entire game plan is to always lose.
They'll beat the Spurs in 11 days. I still can't believe the Spurs let Portland's G-League team (with Simons, Sharpe, Ayton all out) drop 71 points in the first half last night with Victor being rested the second night of the B2B. This Spurs team is so obscenely bad but it's being hidden by Wemby being able to singlehandedly carry them to the occasional win. But almost everyone on the team is terrible defensively. Malaki Branham's a starter and lets his man shoot 57%. Keldon Johnson gives up almost 52% shooting to whoever he's guarding. Jeremy Sochan is supposed to be the defensive minded jack of all trades that Ausar Thompson actually is and he's allowing 50% shooting against. Bottom 20-30% in the league from a guy who wears Rodman's number FFS. I wish someone would talk about how piss poor the Spurs are defensively, because Pop needs to be in the hot seat. The defense he is running is insane. There is so much helping leading to wide open threes by the other team constantly. Everyone shoots lights out against them and you have to think this is Pop's design because he never benches anyone for leaving their man wide open at the three point line.
The pistons are not Bad just developing
Remember when the pistons made it to the ECF for 4 years in a row? Good ol times
Saddiq Bey for James Wiseman was the straw that broke the camel's back. They've had 5 wins total since that laughably awful trade
Who’s here after the Pistions beat the raptors by two
Here
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I've been saying Gores needs to go for years, the fact that it's come to this is just devastating. The Pistons fans need to band together to form a supporters trust in order to make sure that they're kept in the loop and that this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
Nkw that you mention it, Wth happened to Kemba walker? He pulled a Steve Francis and faded out w/o anybody noticing
Finally someone explaining why instead of shitting on them
Monty Williams is a bandit 😂
We not gone talk about how the Cavs went from a 2nd round exit in 2010….to losing 26 games in a row in 2011?..😂😂😂oh I wonder how they got so sorry over night
I mean… they’ve been competitive in most of these losses. Not like they’ve been blown out by 40 each time.
still waitin for an Orlando Magic video
Hey just saying, if someone takes Monty out they can change the coach without having to pay
Players don't ever tank on purpose. They don't want a good draft pick because that guy is likely to take their job. It's front offices that tank.
2 THINGS PEOPLE LOOKING FORWARD THIS SEASON
1. WHO'S GONNA WIN NBA FINALS
2. PISTON BREAKING THE LOSING STREAK OF ALL. TIME
You didn't mention how great Ausar defense is tho thats something they have going for them
Lol u and Jxmy just happen to make a video about the Pistons snf and then they finally win a game
All these nba CZcams channels pick the wrong day to release the same topic video
On December 28, 2023 The Neo Bad Boys took one of the best teams in the league in the Celtics to overtime, only falling short 128-122 after key player foul-outs and lack of response to a Celtic run.
Barring excuses, any true Piston fan can see a team struggling not from a lack of determination , but a myriad of setbacks from injuries to simple quality of players within coach Monty's system.
The Pistons organization have clearly showcased a team in the middle of a rebuild project while showing little to no sign of improvement over the first phases , which may upset the majority of fans lead to consider the turnaround to be sooner.
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On paper I’d never believe it with as many high lottery players they have.
Surprised Jalen Duren didn’t get love in the videoo
I think Cade is doing fine with 23.5ppg he just need help from another player who can shoot with high efficiency, he also need to improved his 3FG% a bit, i'm not a fan but i liked them coz of 2004 Pistons👍🏼👍🏼
the piston give some time to improve there young promising players and new system
PISTONS WON WOOO!!!!!!!! Now Andy I need more videos about Pistons so they can win more 😂