Ranking Ancient Texts Tier List
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Timestamps:
S:
57:21 Aeschylus’ Prometheus Trilogy* (Aeschylus in general)
1:42:35 Nonnus of Panopolis’ The Dionysiaca
1:47:30 Plato’s The Symposium
1:57:23 Laozi’s Tao Te Ching
Homer’s The Odyssey
Sappho
Appolonius Rhodius’ The Argonautica
Alexander Romance
Plutarch's Lives
A:
06:00 Ovid's The Metamorphoses* (almost S)
30:38 Herodotus
41:15 Suetonius' The Twelve Caesars
1:05:03 Hippolytus of Rome’s The Refutation of All Heresies
1:16:43 Pindar
1:25:35 The Greek Magical Papyri
1:27:25 Mithras Liturgy
1:31:57 The Gathas of Zarathushtra
1:35:07 Homer’s The Iliad
1:38:05 Euripides’ Bacchae
1:59:08 Theocritus’ Idylls
2:00:50 The Orphic Hymns
Sun Tzu’s The Art of War
The Torah
Iamblichus
Mahābhārata
Callimachus
Hesiod’s Works and Days
The Book of Job
Cicero’s The Nature of the Gods
Sanchoniatho’s Phoenician History
Xenophon’s Anabasis
Strabo’s Geography* (idk if it should be in S)
The Ishtar’s Descent (?)
Aristotle’s The Metaphysics
The Gospel of Thomas
Apuleius’ The Golden Ass
Tacitus’ The Histories
Aeschylus’ The Oresteia
The Book of Esther
Gospel of John
The Gnostic Bible
Appolodorus’ The Library of Greek Mythology
Homeric Hymns
2:21:10 Couldn’t ID
Livy’s The Rise of Rome
Diogenes
Aristophanes’ Frogs
Thomas Taylor’s Arguments of Celsus, Porphyry, and the Emperor Julian, Against the Christians
Pliny The Elder
B:
10:38 Diodorus Siculus
26:18 The Sibylline Oracles (the old testament pseudepigrapha volume I recommended source)
36:20 Proclus
40:11 Apocryphon of John
48:22 The Book of Revelation
52:50 Heraclitus' Fragments
56:08 Petronius’ The Satyricon
1:08:40 Firmicus Maternus’ Mathêsis (the astrology of dancer boys)
1:12:40 Arnobius of Sicca’s Against the Pagans* (originaly “Adversus nationes”)
1:23:56 Vedas
1:55:10 Alcinous’ The Handbook of Platonism (Latin: De doctrina Platonis)
Seneca
Eratosthenes
Martial’s Epigrams
Artemidorus’ Oneirocritica
Derveni Papyrus
The Zend-Avesta
Virgil's Georgics
Plotinus
Sophocle’s Oedipus Trilogy
Longus’ Daphnis and Chloe
Egyptian Book of the Dead
Thucydides
The Book of Jonah
Corpus Hermeticum
Statius’ Achilleid
Horace’s The Odes
Cassius Dio’s The Roman History
Homer’s The Cypria
Epic of Gilgamesh
C:
14:36 Virgil's Aeneid
21:24 Kore Kosmou: The Virgin of the World
23:14 Pherecydes of Syros
35:12 Confucius' The Analects
37:50 Puerilities - Erotic Epigrams of the Greek Anthology
1:08:14 Firmicus Maternus’ Ancient Christian Writers
1:18:46 The Tale of Sinuhe
1:20:18 Megasthenes’ Indica
1:50:25 Philo
1:50:25 Josephus
Martial’s Epigrams*
Gospel of Mary Magdalene
Euripides’ Medea
The Letters of Paul
Gospel of Judas
2:05:55 Couldn’t ID
Seneca The Younger
Apocryphon of James
Maximus of Tyre
Enūma Eliš
D:
15:54 New Testament* (as a whole)
1:05:31 Irenaeus’ Against Heresies
1:14:26 Paul of Alexandria’s Introduction to Astrology
1:33:57 Archimedes*
The Book of Enoch
Ctesias’ History of Persia
Pliny The Younger
Euclid’s Elements
2:01:32 Final Round
Bonus meme:
1:10:35 Superchat and Hamilton Morris/Dr. Hillman talk (“POD 98: Dr. D.C.A. Hillman on Jesus Christ using children as drugs” on HamiltonMorris’ patreon page. Not sure.)
If you find something wrong lmk.
So wonderful to hear from you again. Such a pleasure to hear your voice. You are such a gift to the world. So glad we are together on the planet this time.
Good to see Tao Te Ching in the S-Tier. Definitely check out the I Ching if you enjoyed that. Fu Hsi (2800-2737 BC) - I Ching
We should use the Hanyu Pinyin spelling for Chinese words. Daode Jing is closer to the correct pronunciation
@@ashleybennett4418 This makes more sense as I know it as the Dao. Thank you for correcting me.
This is great. Thanks for putting this list together. So many texts and literally so little time relatively speaking.
I am SO happy you put this video out here for us. 😊 🙏 Thank you!
I am astonished by this document. The role that it plays talking about the few book that read them has a durable effect is great. Your comments are incredibly informative and more they are important to me. And so many people. That’s how, little by little we concede to change humanity to a better future. Ignorance Kills. Wisdom and knowledge brings equilibrium. ( please check Syrianus from 6 century Sicilia)Cheers from keltic Belgium 🔥
What a great and informative stream. We would love it if you made a simple PowerPoint list or other such listing of this Tier list, if ever you get the time. This seems a great source to go through next time I can afford new books.
will do. Be on the lookout at the community tab.
@@GnosticInformant Thank you 😊
Hi friend,
Do you have some material on the nowadays trending 'world as a soul trap' theory?
People like Isabelle Greene postulates that we can leave the loop immediately if we so wish. What is your take on it? I feel there is a sort of growing taking place here still, like Steiner suggest. @@Wyattinous
@@GnosticInformant"Diodorus' is a very valuable text... if Diodorus hadn't existed, we wouldn't even know about them" ... Bingo! You're absolutely right. "This guy ..." How do you know he ever existed for sure? For example, what does the word Siculus actually mean?
"[...] they marched to Transylvania, the frontier of the Pannonian landscape, and they did not call themselves Huns or Hungarians, but Siculus, in their own word Székelys, so that they would not know that they are the remnants of the Huns or Hungarians." - Chronica Hungarorum ( "Chronicle Of The Hungarians" ) By Johannes Thuróczy, 1488
The earliest extant manuscript of Bibliotheca historica is from about 10th century. The editio princeps of Diodorus was a Latin translation of the first five books by Poggio Bracciolini at Bologna in 1472. - wikipedia
The first printing of the Greek original ( at Basel in 1535 ) contained only books 16-20, and was the work of Vincentius Opsopoeus. - wikipedia
It was not until 1559 that all of the surviving books ( "about 10th century" ), and surviving fragments of books 21 to the end were published by Stephanus at Geneva. - wikipedia
Now the Scythians blind all their slaves, to use them in preparing their milk. - The History Of Herodotus ( ca. 430 BCE ) By Herodotus ( Transleted By Rawlinson ) The Fourth Book, Melpomene, January 1, 1928
The milk represents the dogma and the law of the Church, which the young christian follows on a basis of authority and faith, as he is not yet able to directly understand the mysteries. - On The Symbolism Of Milk, Wine And Honey, Esoteric Traditionalism
The Szeklers were Hungarian-speaking as well, and "they appeared in history under the name of Scythians ( 5100 BCE - 453 CE ), that is even before the Huns [...]". - A Székelykérdés Története ( "The History Of The Székely Question" p. 32. ) By Zoltán Kordé, Museum Booklets 4. Székelyudvarhely, 1991
I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. - 1 Corinthians 3,2 ( NIV )
I was shocked to hear you say that it has only been three years that you’ve had this channel. I feel like I’ve been watching your videos for so many more years than that. You’ve done so much in so short a time!
really enjoyed this.
any chance we can get another tier list soon, but for scholarly works on ancient texts?
Bud, I am so glad I found your Channel, This type of topic and discussion is right down my alley🔥💯
This video was awesome . thank you.
(Cant believe this didnt get more views .. so much work in this video)
The Instructions of Ptah Hotep ...
I was actually going to request you do something like this so this is awesome 👏🏻 🙏
The Road to Eleusis, Wasson Ruck and The Immortality Key Muraresku may unveil some aspects of your search for the Aeschylus secret to Eleusis
Can we get a list of the texts?
will do. Be on the lookout at the community tab.
@@GnosticInformant Thank you! :)
Enjoyed watching your video. you're so smart you know your ancient texts. Its fascinating to me I would love to chop it up with you
Do a tier list ranking deities or religions next
Thank you for this. I’ve been a Christian for 47 years and I find your research important. I reject all depictions of God in the Bible that reduce him to human ideas of vengeance. I have always been upheld by the spirit of Jesus and he has led me to trust about 17% of the Bible. Thank you for all you do.
I just loved this! As dope asf 🎉 you are an excellent teacher.
I know that time is a finite resource so a lot of texts werent going to make the cut, but I think Xenophon's cyropaedia should have made the list. Not only for the content of the book itself, but because it was the entire basis for Machiavelli's magnum opus, The Prince.
So cool!!
This is Top Tier
Awesome brother great information
I appreciate you Neal.
I agree, the ancient world is far more connected than it gets treated like it is in scholarship. I always try to remember this in my studies, that the surface of the world we read of in ancient times, is about the same as the u.s. They act like theres a steel barrier between semetic and indo European, and other little barriers between tribes and states that are sometimes within all within an area the size of calofornia. For example the bottem of california reaches from egypt, through the entire coast of the Mediterranean, al the way up to Anatolia area. You think people in N cali are oblivious and uninfluenced by S cali? We know the differences, cool, but lets connect some of these striking similarities.
I’ve been saying this to people for a min. The Semetic and IE world was WAY more connected then what they want us to believe. They especially do this with linguistics. If you can’t tell there is a linguistic connection (for example) between Shiva, Sebazius, SABAŌTH, Seb, Zababa etc. then there is something wrong with you. It’s the fact that a scholar will get ridiculed by his colleagues for pointing these obvious connections that is the problem. Great post bud I couldn’t agree with you more.
This a very cool idea of you.
Yea i cant read books front to back. I have like 700 books in my library now (cuz i live by a gold mine used book store, things huuggee and 2 stories just friggin packed), yet i completely hate reading lol. Just love learnin making connections about ancient shit too much. The only books ive read all of are super scholarly source books ie. Litwas hermetica 2, dudes notes are amazing, acedemic books with unique focused topics ie. Gmirkins Plato and the Creation of the Hebrew Bible, and certain classics, plato, plays, poems, religious txts, short stuff. Other than that, i have certain encyclopedias, commentaries and other books that ill prolly never even finish a fourth of. Or an Annals of Imperial Rome...!! I like good ol Tac, but i just dont need to know about the formation this or that legion used to defeat some obscure german tribe on may 15 63' lolol
Check out Fuxi and Nuwa (holding a compass/square) compare to the the early avatar of Vishnu, Matsya.
This guy knows. 👍for the I ching
I’m having trouble locating the book on the Mithraic liturgy with the cover that is in the image here on the list. Does anyone know the title and author/translator of that particular version?
I made that image because I wanted to separate the Greek Magical Papyri from the Liturgy. I would recommend getting a copy of the Greek Magical Papyri.
@@GnosticInformant Thank You! 🙏
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New ancient texts tier list !?
Basics. Always good.
dude share the full screen image of that ranking
I wish Kalevala was on here, but alas the book is only 100 years old......
based episode
Hey GI hope all is well
Lol....He puts the NT at D.
There was more than one Herod. Herod was a family name.
You could find better contradictions than that if you actually read the NT.
Without Philo we wouldn’t have any good dough
Neal, the man who has more passion and zeal for this subject matter... I still did not come across him (or woman for that matter). But is it too great thing to ask that you pace yourself when your blood rises up? You always start interrupting yourself every other sentence and that makes it hard to follow. But then again, who am I? Consider this as a humble, non obligatory request.
Wait until the world finds out about Cerberusian Cynicism. 🐶🐶🐶
It's strange to include the _new testament_
It would have been better to simply rate independant parts, such as _Romans_ or _Mark_
And i would put _Romans_ in D but Mark in _S-ultra_. Mark is not a christian text. But the copycats i would rank in sub D. They are only partially elevated, because i have to deal with them somewhat.
But why do i rank Mark in S? Because i work for over 7 years almost every day for at last 2 hours on that text or the context.
I once ate the best most delicious meal. But seriously i don't give a shit. What i consider is where i invest my time.
Superficiality you can have at every burger stand.
I like the Tao Te Ching, because the Tao Te Ching doesn't say that greed is bad because a god said so and you have to obey or be punished (which wouldn't be a real standard of morality anyway, just "might makes right"). Instead, it says that too much light blinds the eyes and too much sound deafens the ear and too much taste numbs the tongue. It says if you keep filling the cup it'll spill. It tries to use reasoning and persuasive arguments by using metaphors from nature to explain what is good or bad, instead of it being based on manipulation by promoting fear of an angry god.
They need lost so babble can learn by exsperince JOB had to live story.
Don’t get so down on Plato! Remember, he was an educator who wrote these dialogues as a dialectical test for students. The claims and theories that come from the mouths of his interlocutors (including Socrates!) are not telling his personal philosophy. Plato wants his readers to wrestle with these ideas. Actually, I’d say Plato was the original expositor of what Robert Anton Wilson said, “Belief is the death of intelligence.” Plato wants his readers to always keep questioning and moving toward wisdom.
Check out William H. F. Altman’s books on Plato. If you are studying Greek, then they’ll be especially fun for you to read.
''Hermes Trismegistus'' is the Greek name for Thoth.
''Common Era'' ((B.)C.E. / (B)CE) is nothing but the 'politically correct' term, which begins counting with 1 A.D. just the same as A.D. Likewise, ''1 BCE'' refers to the year 1 BC. There is no difference in accuracy.
Your not knowing these basics does not inspire confidence, to put it mildly.
It is interesting that you mention the word "accuracy" in connection with the Medieval Latin ( *which was the "lingua Franca", or the administrative language used to convey the practical power of the Roman Catholic Church in Europe ) term AD.
It is said that in AD 525 a Scythian monk named Dionysius Exiguus ( Latin for "Dionysius the Humble" ) introduced the AD system, calculating the years since the birth of Christ.
I'd rather not go into what it means to be Scythian, because it's quite a complex story. Which would immediately reveal the relationship between Toth or Thōth, Hermes and Pan ( approx. starting from the 6th millennium BCE ).
Anyway, Dionysius never actually said how he determined the date of Jesus' birth. But what he allegedly did, according to Johns Hopkins University's Project Muse: In Dionysius' Easter table, the first year "Anno Domini 532" followed "Anno Diocletiani 247".
What's more, the BC component was added only two centuries after Dionysius, when... allegedly... the Venerable Bede of Northumbria published his "Ecclesiastical History of the English People" in 731.
Moreover, the BC / AD system became more popular in the ninth century after Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne adopted the system for dating acts of government throughout Europe.
Also, by chance, it was Charlemagne, the King of the Franks again who... supposedly... chose Latin as the "lingua Franca" of his empire, and ordered that all official documents, laws and decrees be written in Latin.
However, what would be extremely interesting for me to understand is how it can be practically implemented that one day 247 are written, and the next day 532, in 525.
Where did those 285 years go overnight? On the day that would be only seven years later when it all happened. Which includes, among many other things, the alleged fall of the Western Roman Empire ... Could you tell me please, with that "accuracy"?
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