Raine Whispers Is Actually Terrifying | The Owl House
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- Can you hear the Rainestorm? Today we will be doing an analysis on the moral complexities of The Owl House's favorite freedom fighter--Raine Whispers! In our world, the name Raine is gentle and pretty, but on the Boiling Isles the name is basically *boiling acid*. And frankly, that's just where the danger begins with the truly terrifying Raine.
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Raine: *whistles*
Coven Scout: What did that do?
Coven Scout: *Dies because his blood got turned into apple blood*
The other coven guard got destroyed because they controlled but instead of legs raine chose the arms and made then choke themselves unconisence but what if they wanted them to die their are many ways he could destroy their lives
Raine could poison belos if they wanted to, but that would be suspicious
@@carol4630i just think that with belos being 99% Goop no traditional way of hurting him would have worked. He probably does not even have a digestive system anymore
@@endrek4895 true
Oh snap! Raine could be a blood bender!
It's so easy to characterise people with anxiety as timid. I love how Raine has always been ruthless and incredibly self-determined despite it.
All the coven heads have this weird, ironic quality to them and the choice to give Raine *stage fright* despite their aplomb and clear self possession was so great.
People with anxiety often are ruthless and stone cold when the situation calls for it. being afraid of everything and then still functioning means when someone or something that terrifies the people who haven't lived in fear their entire life comes along the person to whom fear is an old friend can act despite that fear because they are used to being afraid. when the chips are down? the person with anxiety is the person that will not be stopped. when the chips are down the person with anxiety fears nothing not even god. because they are so terrified they cannot feel anything at all.
@@Atlazuko Because one thing anxiety can do- especially when well managed- is make you prepared.
They're basically what Tywin Lannister could have been - no, should have been. Tywin, too, was well known for using bards to do his bidding, so he understood well how dangerous bards could be. But Raine has the conscience & love of family that Tywin didn't have.
@@idlescree For what it's worth, when Belos possess Raine in the last episode, he notes that the Coven head was 'irritatingly powerful'.
Bards are NOT to be underestimated, mocked or dismissed; they're actually one of the most powerful and versatile classes in the fantasy genre. So, it makes sense for Raine to be so strong
_When disciplining unruly vassals, most lords send armies. My father, Tywin, only had to send a singer. There's no faster way to dull a vassal's ambition or any festive occasion than hearing the Rains of Castamere._
~ Jaime Lannister
@@timy.9512 Imagine if the Bards of Westeros were like Raine, in terms of skill
@@sadlobster1 Take a look at the scene where Raine is sworn in as Head Witch of the Bard Coven and compare it to the GoT scene where Tywin is made Hand under Joffrey. Both give off that air of "This is nothing to me; I've literally seen & led worse than you, and did so successfully." If you don't know, Tywin served under a king as bad as Belos, and survived being only dismissed, not executed.
The difference is that Raine is able to relate to their children (because that's what the BATTs are) in a way that Tywin just can't.
Oh, I definitely need to be a bard now.
DnD Bard
HP 1
Vicious Mockery
Another thing i love is how raine's ruthlessness doesn't necessarily translate to them being heartless. When asking for eda's help, they specify "if you have nothing to lose" and don't ask anything of her just yet. They're letting her know what she's getting herself into beforehand, instead of springing the sacrifice play on her later on. Then when playing the requiem, they mention, "we may not make it out ourselves", and there's an implication of "but you already knew that". Because, again, they made sure she knew what she was signing up for.
Alternatively, i think they could have been giving eda one last chance to back out. Granted, i don't know what they would have done if she had, but it's still an acknowledgement that this sacrifice is a massive ask from them. Even if they think that eda has nothing to lose if they go through with it.
They still obviously care deeply about eda, to the point where they almost seem regretful over asking such a big favour from her (again) with the sigil, but it takes an incredibly strong person to not put personal attachments in front of their cause. They want to keep eda safe but not at the cost of the entire boiling isles. Ruthlessness has not made them uncaring or cruel, they're just willing to make sacrifices, even if they're not their own.
Fantastic video! This entire thing was so thorough and well put-together, i was astounded to realise it was only 10 minutes. This whole channel is full of nothing but gems.
Thank you for the thoughtful comment! I love that, "ruthless, but not heartless." What a great way to phrase that!
They ask to do all these things on the razor's edge of tension, keeping in mind that they have anxiety! It's unfathomable the level of muscling through they've done.
You deserve these likes, you just wrote a small essay
Agreed "ruthless, but not heartless"
@@idlescree A quote from Animorphs that I think perfectly encapsulates ruthlessness;
""People don't understand the word ruthless. They think it means 'mean.' It's not about being mean. It's about seeing the bright, clear line that leads from A to B. The line that goes from motive to means. Beginning to end. It's about seeing that bright, clear line and not caring about anything but the beautiful fact that you can see the solution. Not caring about anything else but the perfection of it.""
I think that encapsulates this mode of action beautifully. It shows the exact meaning of ruthlessness without cruelty. This character in that series is one of my favorites, simply because he knows how to win, and is willing
to pay the price, but he still has emotions and conflicts, he isn't some heartless monster of callousness.
Spoilers for watching and dreaming!
Belos even admitted himself that "raine is ANNOYINGLY POWERFUL"
Yeah, our powerful badass bard 🥰
Well I'm not sure what Belos was expecting, he literally recruited the "baddest, coolest, kick-buttiest witch of all time" 😂
Plus their palisman is a fox in the time skip😭😭❤
! Spoilers for Watching and Dreaming !
Raine is especially scary in this episode- not only do they break the Collector's curse, but also was strong enough to throw Belos out of control of their body. This kind of strength is UNREAL, especially after seeing how much it took for Hunter to overcome Belos' possession (he DIED). Hell, Belos even comments on how he always hated how strong they are, which just gives an insight on how even he would have trouble going against Raine. Absolutely a ruthless but loving character.
Yea Raine is the only thing to survive belos possession
Also, they didn’t have to give up their palismen
@@isabellagoldleaf1751 Yeah, disguising their palisman as their violin was genius, assuming that theory is correct of course
I think the reason Hunter almost died when he was possessed by bellows is because he jumped in the water and almost drowned
@@emrysrainejackson7242 he is also a magic less child. Raine has had longer to perfect their art and has something to draw on he doesn't, as hard as he tries to stop Belos, even through self sacrifice.
Something else is Raines power of deception. I mean they managed to deceive everyone except Darius (and probably Eberwolf) following the "brainwashing." Raine deceived everyone by making everyone think they were brainwashed even the person who was doing this (Terra.) Now that takes massive skill and makes Raine even more complex and powerful
Certainly. It's unsure at what point Terra caught on but Raine made quite a game of it. There's plenty more to talk about when it comes to Raine for sure but man I just know they're not an enemy I'd like to have. Of the adult characters who aren't Belos, I'd consider Raine easily one of, if not THE most dangerous. I feel like with almost all of the heroic ones they're the one that would be least inclined to mercy if the stakes were high enough! Thanks for the comment :D
@Idle Scree I'm still deciding when I think Terra caught on tbh but I am thinking it was in the few days before the Day Of Unity just when I'm not sure. Raine most certainly did a great job at hiding it though. Raines someone with so much to talk about especially after how strong they're shown to be in the finale. It really makes me wish we saw more of them (although I feel that way about all Coven heads.) If I had Raine as an enemy I'd certainly sleep with one eye open. I'm not sure who I consider the most dangerous adult characters outside of Belos but I imagine Raine would be up there if I made a list. They definitely weren't inclined to mercy in the finale but I cant say I blame them (I'm trying to be careful what I say for anyone who hasn't seen it that's why I'm wording it so vaguely 😅) No problemo :D Thank you for the amazing video
Are you really bringing up Hogwarts houses? About a NB chracter? Fckin YIKES. Harry Potter adults learn to let go of racist childrens books written by a transphobe challenge
Don't know how Darius called him a bad actor
@@Ezraspainter don’t wanna be that person but Raine uses they/them not he/him
To add another layer to their deception: clearly, they are a fantastic actor (so long as they're not on a stage). But the best liars convince you that they're terrible liars, and even the people who saw their betrayal (Darius and Eber) said "we didn't tell you about our plan because you're a bad liar." Just think about that one.
Truth and silence lie better than even the silvermost tongue.
Leverage has a Grifter who’s terrible as a regular actress, way too dramatic, but she’s basically flawless when she’s running a con or in on a con.
@@kalifogg6610 oh hell yeah they did!! love that show, and Raine is absolutely like that. Incredibly skilled in espionage, horrendous on a stage. Sophie's a great character (not nearly as dear to my heart as Raine, though)
@@arzadu1138 my favorite part is when we first meet her and Hardison, Parker and Eliot are horrified that Nate wants to recruit her.
And her overly dramatic performance for the soap commercial audition is so funny.
Rains and Sophie would be besties.
4:55 [SPOILERS FOR WAD] there’s a running theory that Raine did have a palisman the whole time, they just disguised it as their violin! We see them with a fox palisman towards the end of the episode, which looks similar to the design at the end of their violin!
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that 😂💕 I didn't think that Raine had a palisman until the end of Watching and Dreaming and that they just used their violin instead. But the theory that they did have one before anc had to sacrifice it to Belos for yhe good of the rebellion is both really sad (and dark) and makes me love their character even more x 💕🎻✨️
It's been confirmed now
@@Ocilocwhen?
@@hanutakitten1417 don't know if i can share links but if you look up "The Owl House Post Hoot Full Livestream w/ Dana Terrace! Q&A 4/28" Dana states that Raine hid it(they have a timestamp for the question)
@@EndraghMN okay thanks!:)
HELL yeah. Raine is stone cold. Raine used to be a teacher! Someone specifically in a position to be looking for signs of abuse- i can hardly imagine how much it must have hurt to see hunter, know they couldn't do anything to help him, and have to watch in silence because the best way to help him was to defeat the emperor. Though, I have no doubt that if Hunter had fought Raine and forced their hand, they'd have been prepared to take him down for the good of the mission, and there's no way Eda could ever do that, even if it meant way more people getting hurt. raine whispers fucking rules
RIGHT. A teacher, someone who is so perceptive--it just boggled my mind even on the first watch. And they were capable of a pretty crazy "stand" against Eda while pretending at mind control in addition to everything else. They had to become so metal despite the fact that really good teachers have a warm, soft core of compassion and kindness...And yeah, I didn't go into this in great detail here but they would absolutely have been prepared to take Hunter down if they had to. Weeps. Thank you for the lovely comment.
Eda is a dissenter, Raine is a revolutionary
Oh this is a fabulous way to sum it up!!
I didn't realize it was possible to love Raine even more, but after this video I do
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Same 😂💕🎻
Raine fits the "good man(person)" quote from Pratchett. "If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat. They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word."
Raine is a good person.
Off topic but I'd... rather die immediately, thank you...
@@Manas-co8wlyeah, but if the moment is put off you have a better chance to escape, especially if the person is too busy enjoying it to pay much attention
It’s possible that rain hid their palisman or kept them far away from the castle because they had a fox during the ending of Watching and Dreaming. This could be a new palisman but I think they had their fox for a while as they seem really comfortable flying on them.
Interestingly enough, their instrument’s head is also fox. This could mean that they had their palisman disguised as their instrument right under Belos’ nose the whole time!
@@sharkfin4194 I remember someone saying that their palisman could be the neck up of their instrument, meaning as long as that was intact, their palisman was fine. It makes sense considering the two times we see it broken, it's always the body
Raines palisman has been confirmed to be hidden in the violin
Raine kept their palisman hidden right under Belos' nose, their staff transformed into their violin. Which makes them breaking their violin to try to stop Belos from possessing the Titan's Heart all the more heartbreaking.
Belos didn't consume Raine's palisman. In one episode (can't recall wich one) a we see a paper with data about them, and it sais "Palisman: unknown". If Belos coonsumed their palisman the status would be different
Someone mentioned that in the epilogue Raine has a little fox palisman, and their violin's head is carved in the shape of a fox, so the palisman was probably disguised as the violin the whole time!
Can we just notice the genius that Raine is a whistleblower? What a PERFECT allegory!
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I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT RAINE POTENTIALLY KNOWING ABOUT HUNTER'S SITUATION OH MY GOD
BELOS GOT SO SLOPPY with Hunter it's wildly ridiculous. Abusers have to be SO confident to be leaving marks on a child's FACE and the EC's uniform includes a white cloak! Blood and injury would be so apparent!
It’s even worse when you realize that Raine might have had to abuse the kids himself for appearance sake.
Hunter says that Coven Heads backstab each other all the time for their own wants and needs, likely including him.
If Raine really wanted to show that he fit in, he likely did something unforgivable to the kid himself just to keep appearances
@@frankwest5388raine uses they/them pronouns
Loved this!! Raine is such a complex character and it’s great to see them getting some recognition for how much of a stone cold badass they can be. they’re a revolutionary!! ok I’m gonna rewatch the video now
Aaah thank you. I love Raine and their sharp edges. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
One other thing to remember is that Raine could KILL ANY HUMAN INSTANTLY WITH ONE WHISTLE by replacing someone's blood with... not blood. Great video as always!
When did they do that?
@@PancakeTheKat oh, no I meant that they theoretically could with the powers they have been stated to have.
@@AGuideToInterestingStuff ohhh ok, makes sense.
It’s extremely good that Raine is on the side of good because if they were on Belos’s side the boiling isles would have been lost before Luz ever set foot on it
Yeah, bad people need their enablers and it's good that Raine wasn't motivated in the way some of the other coven heads clearly were...
I LOVED this video essay. Raine has always been one of my favorite characters but I’ve never really been able to put my finger on why. I always just said they had a quiet sort of strength which was certainly part of the equation.
I’ve been able to point out moments that resonated with me. The reveal that Raine has been faking their submission to Tera while completely cognizant and actively rebelling the whole time. Raine’s sympathetic look at Hunter in Any Sport in a Storm while still reluctantly but willingly following the other coven heads. Their entire motivation being to keep Eda safe, but failing over and over again. Their character is constantly at odds with itself but it actually works to make them a more believable person.
After everything they’ve been through, I’m glad they’re the one who was possessed by Belos. Every coven head has sacrificed so much (just consider the chances that Darius knew *something* about Belos’s grimwalkers), but Raine is the one we learn the most about. For so much of their lives, they’ve been complicit in Belos’s plans. Them being possessed is the physical manifestation of all their struggles. And also gives them the opportunity to overcome them.
Wow, this is a really great observation! The note that they keep trying to protect Eda and failing over and over, and how their contradictions come together to make a really believable person. Absolutely loved this. I've meditated a lot on what the coven heads know...Thank you for for this comment, and thanks so much for watching!
Oooh, I didnt think about raine getting possesed as a physical manifestation of all their struggles, but it definetly makes sense, and adds a reason storywise to why it was them, and not one of the other rebellion members. I was pretty upset that they got possessd, calling them the writers' punching bag as a half joke, but you shed some light on it! Thank you!
A very intriguing observation 🤔 now I understand why it was Raine who got possessed by Belos, thx for that 😂💕
I like how you brought up Raine noticing Hunter’s abuse. I have a little fan theory that Raine, Darius, and Eber Wolf knew the golden guard before Hunter. For me personally it would make sense why the three decided to rebel together, we already know that Darius was hurt by the previous guard’s death and showed distain towards Hunter following Belos blindly, but giving their ages and Hunter’s age it could work.
Obviously not much can support this theory besides the interactions we’ve seen between the three, we don’t know how long the rebellion has been in motion, but for me personally it feels like an interesting way to connect these characters instead of just small, yet significant, interactions between.
You made me realize that Raine is wayyy stronger than they look like. And the fact that now Belos has those abilities makes it even worst
Raine was always so intelligent. I only noticed in the end when Raine was shown to have a palisman, but hid it as a violin which I found mind blowing.
SO many ways to look at it--absolutely amazing stuff. They're such an incredible character.
Eda being such a softie at heart is just the best. I love that she's such a badass with a heart of pure gold.
Kinda got the impression watching that Eda is totally a hard ass with a soft heart while Raine was steel core in puppy disguise X)
when Eda got her sigil I thought how is raine just letting this happen cause I not used to characters like them. With this understanding I love their ruthlessness.
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I think Raine might have ended up chronicly injured from the possesion, we see them fighting for a longer time than Hunter and their possessed for longer. We see their body giving in as things go on. Even Belos says they're annoyingly powerful that just adds to this side of them.
They're quite unique! It's rare to see a character like this depicted in such a stark fashion on a kid's show--and they let it stand without commentary which is partly for time but also a very bold move. Thank you for your comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! :D
@@idlescree you overlook how ATLA already did this with _Sokka._ He was absolutely ready to kill Zuko in order to keep Aang safe, and only relented because Aang wanted him to.
@@timy.9512 saying something is rare in a kid's show isn't overlooking one of the rare times it's happened, it's just not giving an alternate example.
i wanna add something about the moment when Raine pulls Eda's hand
(sorry if any of this sounds scuffed, english is not my native language)
so what i wanna talk about is their "last" words
"I promised a special kid i will protect you"
they knew they probably wont make it out alive. it was their last words. they chose this words, not "i love you" or smth
why?
so, after "Eda's requiem" they were determined to keep Eda safe. they knew she will go on a suicide mission if needed.
and she went to confront Darius and Eberwolf with Raine in the first place because she thought her kids didn't love her
so the thing they decided to tell is to reassure her, that she has people to lose, that they love her, that they specifically went to ask Raine to protect her.
they made sure she wont try to kill herself again
but anyway they are alive and gay so thats okay 😊
/insert the Raine seeing Harpy Eda scene with happy kids music/
They also pretended not to care about eda to keep her safe Wich must have hurt so much but they care so much about her and ahh I love them!
Thank you, upon rewatching the fight between them and Eda where Raine tells Eda to back away "please", you see Raine's face and it screams of "I don't want to hurt you".
Now knowing that they were not under Terra's control puts it in a different light.
FINALLY a video that gives Raine the appreciation they deserve! I hadn't even thought about some of the things you mentioned and I have analyzed them HARD (and now I feel even worse for them :') )
People tend to perceive them as some anxious wimp rebel-wannabe and miss literally EVERYTHING about their character. I love Raine so much for literally every reason you mentioned and more and it pisses me off so much when people miss literally everything that makes Raine Raine. I've been looking for a video like this, thank you for giving them the analysis they deserve. they are one of my top favourites and one of the ones I look up to most for a reason
THIS! i know Raine is loved by the fandom, but i still consider them to be underrated for many of these reasons! Raine’s personality, ambition, determination, sacrifice - practically everything about them makes them one of my favorite characters in the show
Eda: strong but shows mercy
Raine: strong but cant risk mercy..
Man so many of you are full of such pithy, powerful statements and I am HERE for it. Absolutely love that.
I'm just saying, I would not have been opposed to more of Raine acting as a double agent. (Raeda villain au enemies-to-lovers let's go)
THAT IS A GREAT IDEA LETS GO LETS GO
Idk if people even have the heart to make Raine a villain or raine acting as a stone cold double agent here **against** Eda
I love Raine ❤ that's all I really have to say.
That and the fact I was happy they gave them anxiety but still made them an incredibly strong, tough character outside of that. Similar to Hunter, although not quite the same thing.
It turns out that raines palisman might have been their violin the whole time, just hidden away, because their palisman in the end of the newest episode was a fox, just like then neck of their violin
Yeah u hit the nail right on the head Raine demonstrates the lengths u need to be willing to go through to pull off a successful rebellion. Also yeah not only would Eda not be able to do what Raine did but I think Luz would also be in the same boat like Eda Luz can't stand seeing unjust actions fall people like Hunter.
We needed a raine appreciation episode ima be honest...but tbh they're to precious, we need to protec the enby bard
Agreed 😅💕🎻
Wow! You definitely made me appreciate Raine’s character a lot more with this. Funny enough the themes of sacrificing your own morality for the greater good is something that’s just come up in my philosophy class! Definitely going to be thinking about this during those discussions :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
With the finale, I think it's definitely seen how powerful Raine is, not only from what Belos said and also their constant resistance
Pretty certain that if Owl House was around when I was a kid, and I looked up to Raine as much as I do now, I would have figured out that I’m non-binary a lot sooner and been more confident about it. Not in an attempt to be more like them, but to understand what it is I see and hope for in myself, thanks to the many lessons this series presents
Yeah!! This kind of representative fiction is INCREDIBLY powerful! I am so grateful that the kids of today have this, and those of us who are post-kid get to appreciate it for what it is now!
Same! Like I'm definitely in a spot where I both want to be Raine and want to be _with_ Raine cause they're just so cool in a way I can't explain but they would have definitely also helped me realize I was non-binary too XD
I honestly need to rewatch the show sometime to better appreciate these characters better because they are really well crafted. Also it amuses me to no end that my middle name is actually Raine and was considering making it my first in my hunt for a new name years ago before Owl House. We would have been nonbinary name buddies, an massive honor. But hey, I still get that honor regardless in the end.
Thank you for sharing!!!!
I love Raine Whispers so much.
As you should ❤️🎻✨️
Love the comparison to Luthen Rael. Both great spies and freedom fighters!
Honestly, i was very skeptical when i first started the vid because i only ever thought of Raine as just some nice side character with some social anxiety who wanted to rebel against Belos, but GOD DAMN, u made some rlly great points. Good job!! :D
Thank you! It's a very high compliment, I love it when people bring their skepticism to something I have to say. I'm glad you enjoyed :D And yeah I remember Raine's cold ruthlessness was quite striking but not a lot of people were discussing it so I thought I'd offer my two cents on why I think they're so cool (and DEEPLY dangerous).
Raine is also terrifying cause they literally ejected Belos out of their body when they were being controlled
This is random, but that description reminded me of "OH NO! IT'S BOILING ACID!" I haven't thought about that meme in years.
petition for a whole OVA episode starring Raine Whispers (and Eda for kicks and giggles)
Something that I don't see people point out enough: when Raine learns Eda has kids but she dismisses them. Raine was a _teacher._ They probably know better than most that just because you're not blood doesn't mean you're not family, and how important mentors are to their students.
YESSSSSSS YOU GET IT
Spoilers for the finale:
I hope that’s enough to hide it. Belos actually complains about how powerful Raine is. They are just that much of a threat even with all of the restrictions and only barely failed to prevent the tyrants plan one their own. I would not want to be on their bad side even in Mario Party.
This analysis of Rain makes me think of them on a while different light. Like. I had respect for them before. But I have even more so now. Given how strong they would have had to been to do all of this. This made me tear up ngl. It may be because the series just ended but still. This video is amazing.
After seeing the finale, I gotta say ooh boy.
The weakest coven/magic type is potions and you won't convince me otherwise.
The coven system is so STUPId it's so clearly stupid and it makes no SENSE and that's the point but oh my GODHSFLDSFALSKGJ GLK and you're absolutely right
Congratulations, you get to spend your whole life making magical soup while other people get to control animals and create life.
I love this video!! Literally all of this is so true, and is reinforced wholesale in the Owl House's spectacular, if slightly premature, final.
Raine shines in s3e3, resisting Belos' possession of them both physically and mentally, enforcing not only their strength of will, but also their magical prowess. Even BELOS admits that Raine "was always annoyingly powerful." FR.
Raine is just such an awesome character, and you did an awesome job analyzing their character! Props!!
You also forgot the amazing detail that the only reason Raine didn't die when Belos took control of the Titan was because they were whistling the "malice" away from them.
I like that in the final *spoilers ahead* they are so powerful that belos was annoyed about it hell they broke out of a spell that the *Collector* placed on them!
Dude, I love video essays like these. You brilliantly summarized a character that hasn't been executed in this medium before, or at least, none that I can recall. You are awesome, thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Glad you enjoyed it!
They deserve better imo
I just wanna see them when they’re not in a possession situation, real or not :
this video just made me love raine even more. they’re such an amazing character. the writing in this show is just incredible
I already adored Raine, but this makes me love them even more
im so happy we see raine has a palisman in WaD, and somehting that I HC, is that their violin IS their pallisman, as you can see the head of a fox on it.
That's a great HC! I knew the odds of me being potentially wrong on that point were HIGH, and while one cannot prove a negative, it's certainly a good theory!
Raine did have a foxy palisman after the time jump. Couldnt tell if it was a new one or not
The odds of me getting proven wrong on that point were SUPER high but yknow what it's fine! The interpretation works either way u v u
Rain is honestly one of my absolute favorite characters along with Hunter those two are just adorable and badass in so many different ways I love it
Ever since in Season 3, even Belos also said something about them saying how he hates how annoyingly strong they are and that's when u know raine compared to belos saying that is really intimidating but also badass
So in conclusion raine cool
Raine is so cool, and so are you!!!
i believe raine’s palisman is heavily implied to be their instrument, with (spoilers) context from watching and dreaming. i think they hid their palisman from belos via disguising it as a magical instrument
That is an interesting theory, I never thought about it that way 🤔
can we also take into account just how strong bard magic is?
And yknow raine is incredibly powerful
Having folks talk about the subtext of the story makes the series feel less short
Spoilers for Watching and Dreaming?
Belos quite literally stated that Raine had always been "annoyingly strong". If that's not a sign of danger, then I don't know what is, because I don't think he ever called Eda strong, just them.
so glad my fav character getting some attention
I’m so glad someone did an analysis on my fav character!
Raine actually disguised their palacmen as an instrument to keep it from getting taken :))
Their violin IS the palismen, and raines actually palismen unisguised is a fox!
This is amazing!! I love Raine and this analysis of their character is really well done. Great video!!
Thank you!!
They're ESPECIALLY scary now after the final too.
If you look carefully in the final episode time skip we actually end up seeing ranes palsmen it wasn't taken its a red fox someone in the staff cleared up it's also his violin so it was hidden during the show note the fox head on the violin
I never realized this about them.
Another piece of ATLA's legacy - the same way that Sokka can be cynical & paranoid yet ruthless & self-sacrificing.
Loved the video! Raine is my favorite character, and I relate to them a lot. I've had to do some things which sacrificed a lot for me, so seeing you talk about that part of Raine's character is really refreshing for me. They're actually what inspired me to make those sacrifices, and those sacrifices and risks actually helped me survive many times. I also have a bit more to say, so I'll put a little "hot take warning" right here.
Something not mentioned in the video that extenuates the points made, is that Raine also knows their boundaries and when they need to enforce them. Raine seemed to not exactly be asking Eda to tell them everything about her curse, but more to just be open with her emotions and not be so distant from them. By the way they say "You're doing it again" to Eda, and after saying "I can't do this anymore" shows that they've probably asked multiple times, and had that looming over until they couldn't handle it anymore.
Also, the way that Eda says "hey, I know that face" anytime Raine is worried about her and Raine has to later tell her "don't tell me not to worry" has got me thinking a lot. And that thinking has lead me to the hopw that they don't actually get together in the end.
First off, when characters meet up again like this in media, they usually get back together and it's so romantic and stuff. Or you see them hate each other after the breakup. You don't really see many characters just staying friends. And we all know how much Dana Terrace loves subverting tropes.
And second off, though they may have had a good time with Eda, it didn't seem the most stable, and Eda has changed, but still has a lot of those barriers up.
(Small detail I've noticed, Raine very easily blushes when embarrassed/flustered, but we never see them blushing back at Eda when she does. It's usually just a nervous tick at the most, which, with them being perceptive, my theory for that is that they possibly noticed how she was looking at them and felt awkward about it.)
(No hate to any Raeda shippers BTW just stuff I've noticed)
Thank you for your thoughtful comment! I certainly felt Raines intensity ought to be discussed, I’m glad it resonated with you!
just the word choice and way you describe them in this video is incredible and also hilarious lmaoooo
Thank you!!
I love this analysis, I didn't realize how much Raine would have to give up, especially his palisman.
Raine is such a great character, as someone who's nonbinary and has anxiety, I love that they're such a great character.
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@@midnights2631 no worries! I'm nb too
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The fact that your character is a bat, and Raines rebellion was the Batts, is so perfect lol❤
Raine didn’t give up his palismen, we did see it at the end, a little fox. I also noticed something else! His pal doesn’t turn into a staff, but his violin! When they first try to defeat Darius, the bard magic, look at his violin! There’s a fox at the top!
Afterward it's been confirmed raine didn't give belos their palisman, that their violin(?) is their palisman, but that just adds another layer of sacrifice. That in the finale raine, with very little hesitation, smashed their own palisman in hopes of stopping belos from accessing the titan's heart. I think we got confirmation that their palisman was able to recover from that but holy cow that moment shows that raine really will sacrifice anything.
Wonderful piece. You put your finger on something I've been thinking about with Raine. Till next time ☕
*dive bombs the tea* Why thank you, and also--thanks for watching!
Raine is one of those characters I wished existed more often, that morally gray dubiousness all for the sake of a greater goal, and NOT being felt as the bad guy, is always a beloved breath of fresh air. I can only name a few characters who gave the same vibe, and even they don't come anywhere close to as agreeable to me in their decisions as Raine because usually there's some form of cowardice holding them back too. Raine didn't have that.
What's interesting: Belos admits that Raine is "Annoyingly powerful." Belos knew Raine could cause havice, and thats probably the only reason Raine was still alive. Belos probably believed that Raine's power could help amplify the spell, so rather than killing him, he opted to try to brainwash him, which obviously backfired and helped ruin his plane in the end.
It probably was just the fact that Raine is an incredibly powerful witch that allowed them to survive the possession where as when Hunter got possessed he "died."
Also just letting you know that Raine uses they/them pronouns ❤
this video reminded me of a fantasy book series that also has quite the emphasis on sacrifice and greater good vs. personal attachment. (a fuckton of spoilers for Throne of Glass by Sarah J. Maas. i dont even know why i made this comment.)
Eda reminds me a lot of Aelin, and Raine reminds me a lot of Dorian.
Aelin has a fate to sacrifice all of her magic and her self to forge the Lock and put it into place to seal the three Wyrdkeys into the Wyrdgate. This is purely because of an ancient debt caused by the mistake of Elena in her efforts to defeat the Valg king Erawan. Because Aelin has godly fire magic and blood relation to Elena, she is eligible to forge the Lock.
But Dorian also has a blood relation to Elena, and godly raw magic(raw magic is the ability to make your magic take any form you need or want). He has both requirements as well, but the only difference is he has nothing to lose and a lot more pain.
Aelin has been through a lot in her 19 years on Erilea, but through all of the torture and pain she found family and love and caring friends in Dorian, Chaol, Rowan, Fenrys, Elide, and Lysandra to name a few. She had people to help her heal from child abuse, the labor camp, being forced to work for a tyrant, waking up covered in her parents' blood, etc.
But Dorian, being the son of a tyrannical king, hasn't been able to find that many people. The only person being Chaol for the longest time, and when chaos was brought to his doorstep via Aelin, he finally found a lot of friends. But even then he didnt let himself get too close to them after being possessed by a Valg Prince and having an identity crisis because while being possessed he learned to like hurting innocent people.
So Dorian tried to take Aelins place in forging the Lock, even though Aelin (now being reasonably suicidal) came up with a plan to fulfill everyones wishes, keeping everyone she cares about safe, and forging almost the entirety of the Lock. The only reason they're both alive now is Aelins plan, and two strokes of luck one of them being a very anti-climactic reveal.
Just like Raine, Dorian had nothing to lose. And just like Eda, Aelin was fine with ending herself for the greater good even if other people depended on her.
They feel like an anti hero a little. Like they are willing to let things burn for the greater good no matter who it effects
Love your character analysis here (and in masks off) These are wonderful (and I'm pointing authors to them because there are some good take aways here)
Wow! That's a very high compliment. I'm so glad you enjoyed, and thank you for watching!
ARE WE NOT GONNA TALK ABT HOW FLEXI RAINE IS. They do a whole fricking front flip in episodes and lands with there perfect pose. Truly one of my fav characters!❤❤❤
Spoilers for Watching and Dreaming
I feel like we see this endless determination where Raine is possessed by Belos, but they still fight to the goddamn end. They first force Belos out out of their body, and after that follows him to the heart of the titan, and that was not easy, when Hunter was possed by Belos he passed out and almost died from it, but Raine just kept going until the the very end.
Even when they were trapped by the upgraded Belos goop, they were whistling, just trying to do something.
What a fucking badass, I knew I loved them. Also, they're the first nonbinary disney character.
Thanks for the vid! Raine could have easily become a Gale-like character (Hunger Games) and what I admire most about Raine is how he kept his compassion while having to watch his fellows and citizens get hurt.
Raine is just amazing 😍huh, I think I finally get the 'crushing on someone who could kill you' thing XD
I loved this video! We really need Raine content, they are the best and I think a lot of people do not pay enough attention to how deep an strong can their motivations and actions be
Raine gave me the chills while watching, and not always the good kind.
**SEASON 3 EPISODE 3 SPOILER**
Raine’s palisman didn’t get taken, in ‘Watching and Dreaming’ we see they have a fox palisman and if we look at their fiddle it has a fox end, meaning their palisman was probably disguised so they wouldn’t have to give it to Belos (Dana also confirmed their palisman’s name is Fiddlesticks)
Your channel is a Jewel... I love you videos.
Thank you! 😊
THIS is why Raine is my favorite Owl House character
Omg! Yes! I love this character study!
raine actually hides their palisman in their violin
I LOVEEEE THIS ANALYSIS, it made me appreciate raine wayyyy more as a character. They’re definitely one of my faves now