Why Belos's Ending Is PERFECT || The Owl House Video Essay (Spoilers!)

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  • čas přidán 9. 04. 2023
  • Now that The Owl House is over, we can finally take a proper look at Emperor Belos a.k.a. Philip Wittebane, talk about his ending and whether he got exactly what he deserved or not!
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  • @golden-prism
    @golden-prism  Před rokem +397

    How are you guys doing after the finale?

    • @eri_sister_of_aerial
      @eri_sister_of_aerial Před rokem +38

      I love THe Owl House and it feels a bit sad seeing it end. What it ended with was the best that could be done.

    • @tacotown4598
      @tacotown4598 Před rokem +24

      AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

    • @danl9685
      @danl9685 Před rokem +9

      Making a plan to destroy disney /j

    • @KeanuBlob
      @KeanuBlob Před rokem +20

      Tears.

    • @laguser6362
      @laguser6362 Před rokem +25

      I'm happy and sad, but glad nonetheless. I'm also haunted by the bird worm in Papa Titan's eye, who are they? Are they Hooty's dad/mom? What does it mean!?

  • @thecheck968
    @thecheck968 Před rokem +1714

    I think the most pathetic thing about Belos’s death was that he compared himself to Eda, saying he struggled with a curse just like she did. If makes me think back to Hunting Palisman where both of them reunite with the kid they’re mentoring. While Eda treats Luz with love and kindness, Belos actively uses his curse to threaten Hunter. Eda has come so far in accepting her curse, it’s been one of the most significant struggles in the entire show. So to see Belos use his as a last ditch effort is nothing short of insulting.

    • @jujublue4426
      @jujublue4426 Před rokem +165

      Plus Belos willingly did this to himself so he could cheat death and have more power, unlike Eda who never asked for it in the first place.

    • @hannahthelibrarian2933
      @hannahthelibrarian2933 Před rokem +100

      When Belos tried to play the victim card, my head kept playing that clip from Men in Tights when the crowd was coughing "bulls**t" repeatedly.

    • @dylansharp8471
      @dylansharp8471 Před rokem +9

      Pathetic or glorious?

    • @uhuh9859
      @uhuh9859 Před rokem +31

      @dylansharp8471 Well Belos being pathetic is very glorious, so both.

    • @Hel7100
      @Hel7100 Před rokem +38

      Comparing himself to Eda was really an insult! She shied away from the people she loved because she felt guilty of having hurt her father, although she couldn't help it. While Belos always blamed others for his actions and refused to take any responsability.

  • @davisammari3588
    @davisammari3588 Před rokem +1193

    The irony that Belos saw all witches as beneath him. He dies beneath witches, stomped out under the shoes of the ones he despised the greatest.

  • @soramembrino82
    @soramembrino82 Před rokem +1732

    Not everyone is worth helping, belos is an example.

    • @hannahmetzger4880
      @hannahmetzger4880 Před rokem +54

      Horde Prime from _She-Ra and the Princesses of Power_ is another, IMO. :3.

    • @hmmidk6023
      @hmmidk6023 Před rokem +44

      Ask steven universe

    • @netherking3988
      @netherking3988 Před rokem +23

      ya but I wish we could have seen Luz answer the Collector's worry of doing the forgiving wrong with Alfred's quote on the Joker that some men just want to watch the world burn and that Belos is one of those men

    • @XxFlamexX14
      @XxFlamexX14 Před rokem +67

      Exactly. There will be people that will not change no matter how many chances. Belos had plenty of chances to change and fit in with Caleb but he chose not to. He continued believing witches were evil until his bitter end.

    • @Yesytsucks
      @Yesytsucks Před rokem +14

      Jack horner would like to meet him, lol

  • @Ayvee_
    @Ayvee_ Před rokem +1296

    Not all villans needs to be redeem. The owl house showed it to belos, and his death was the best way to end him.

    • @golden-prism
      @golden-prism  Před rokem +166

      For sure! TOH really showed that some kindness can go a long way, but it doesn't mean that everyone is capable of changing and I think that's beautiful.

    • @randomrhino7500
      @randomrhino7500 Před rokem +60

      But I still think there’s a missed opportunity of him being stared at by his dead brother one last time

    • @chriscortez2036
      @chriscortez2036 Před rokem +66

      Philip’s/Belo’s death is even more poetic when you realize it was done by the Titan’s son (Belos constantly claimed he was in service to the Titan to manipulate everyone), his great, great, something niece (If Caleb & Evelyn being Eda’s ancestors is to be believed), and the last person to be controlled & manipulated by him- Raine. His crimes came back to bite him.

    • @Soapia99th
      @Soapia99th Před rokem +41

      @@randomrhino7500 I think it’s best hunter and Caleb weren’t there.
      Hunter couldn’t take anymore at that rate.. and I believe that moment when belos crawled past Caleb that’s when Caleb had given up on him truly…

    • @partypoison8476
      @partypoison8476 Před rokem +30

      Like Odalia as a mother and wife! I guess she became neutral by the end, but her relationships look like it ended.
      Gosh Im glad they didnt stick her in the final credits. Kikimora was kinda nice tho, but she wasnt seen as "Oh I have turned my ways 180 degrees", but she looks more neutral.

  • @jacobcox4565
    @jacobcox4565 Před rokem +819

    I love the part where Belos assumes his human form and blames all the awful things he did on a curse in an attempt to manipulate Luz through her compassion, and Luz just stares at him with an unimpressed look, like "Really, you think that's going to work? After everything that's happened, after everything you've done? You think I'm going to buy into your lies again?"

    • @StarcoFanatic
      @StarcoFanatic Před rokem +109

      I love how much she's grown. You just know that Season 1 Luz would have probably fallen for that, but not S3 Luz. Not after everything she's seen him do, not after her conversation with the Titan where she really realized there was nothing genuine about him and that he was a lost cause to try to save. She learned you simply can't save everyone, and there are people who are beyond saving.
      The imagery of Luz simply standing over him as he melted away without saying a word is a strong one. You know you're fucked when even the ever-forgiving Luz just watches you die in silence without even attempting to help you.

    • @dylansharp8471
      @dylansharp8471 Před rokem +6

      @@StarcoFanatic
      So then uh.....
      Was her nightmare at the beginning and Eda's nightmare NOT backtracking on their character development?
      Cause Eda made peace w/ her dad, and Luz had that talk w/ Camila in For the Future.
      Maybe it's some realistic and psychological thing.
      Plus I've been told Willow's breakdown in FTF and Amity's "top student once" and Student Council moments also weren't backtracking on their development so..........

    • @dolphinpower1107
      @dolphinpower1107 Před rokem +37

      ​@@dylansharp8471 I'm curious define why you think it's backtracking on their character development, because their nightmares were just their fears and insecurities brought front and center.

    • @declanmckenna6854
      @declanmckenna6854 Před rokem +29

      ​@@dylansharp8471 I didn't really see those as backtracking. I saw them more as the final test of their character arcs. The final confirmation of if the characters reached where they were supposed to and where they need to go from there.

    • @Scrombo2
      @Scrombo2 Před rokem +20

      I LOVE that in that moment he's going on about "human this" and "human that" when he's a pile of goop and Luz is a demigod, helps show how narrow his view of things are, *chefs kiss*

  • @tdexth
    @tdexth Před rokem +335

    Imagine being King's dad watching Belos spewing BS about him and himself. The amount of cringe and anger is understandably immeasurable.

    • @Nipotazzi
      @Nipotazzi Před rokem +58

      The worst part is that he was definetly able to see every single little dirty thing he did, and could do nothing to stop it. If that's enough to make anyone mad, I can't even imagine what the Titan went through.

    • @that1cat999
      @that1cat999 Před rokem +7

      Must be how Jesus is feeling lol

    • @lisal.1114
      @lisal.1114 Před 11 měsíci +3

      ​@@that1cat999 Especially 'in his name'. Really one of the most abused religions and sadly enough Internet trolls keep doing it.❤😅🧿

  • @mundoatena1674
    @mundoatena1674 Před rokem +478

    I think it's really great the Hunter wasn't there for Belos death. He's trying to heal from everything and Belos already set him back onc when he possessed him. Belos does not deserve to force himself into Hunter's life anymore, not even as a nightmare of his death. Hunter left Belos behind already and a lot of times being forced in a situation where you face you abuser, whom you loved for a long time before realizing you were abused, while said abuser is in a desperate situation, begging for help, can set someone's healing back for months. Belos also did not deserve to see Hunter once again just like he did deserve to see Philip

    • @tiagoprieto7072
      @tiagoprieto7072 Před rokem +22

      *Caleb

    • @northwind808
      @northwind808 Před 10 měsíci +7

      I think it was a good thing too, because I believe in Thanks to Them, Hunter said that he wanted to never step foot in the castle again, which is also him separating himself from the life full of abuse and false love.

  • @dresden9727
    @dresden9727 Před rokem +301

    I love that Belos, the human supremacist, was ironically the most inhuman character in the show, what with his monstrous form and complete lack of humanity, empathy or compassion. When he tells Luz she'd be just as bad as witches by letting him die, the traits he describe fit him to a tee. He's the most conniving, deceitful and evil character in the show, yet he deludes himself and acts like a tragic hero and victim of wild magic😂

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 Před rokem +35

      His final form was a parasitic fungus, the physical manifestation of the cancer he had been on the Boiling Isles.

    • @ryanmoore6259
      @ryanmoore6259 Před rokem

      Just goes to show that human supremacists are scum.

    • @JadeMythriil
      @JadeMythriil Před rokem +11

      more often than not, people who like to see themselves as having the moral high ground and act in accordance to what they consider is the "right" way act in very monstrous ways because they already see all their actions as better than those beneath them and so don't question that they might be doing wrong and continue to act in this deluded sense of self-righteousness; acting for what they consider as a "greater good".

    • @phousefilms
      @phousefilms Před rokem +8

      Even in the end, he didn't accept that he was the villain, saying that she'd be as bad as the witches, not as bad as him.

    • @annlouiserainey4888
      @annlouiserainey4888 Před rokem +2

      And the lacking letting go of his delusional; don’t forget that

  • @robbieking4070
    @robbieking4070 Před rokem +510

    I didn’t realise Belos’ death was a homage to the Wicked Witch. That’s creative.

    • @kevinmorris3200
      @kevinmorris3200 Před rokem +1

      Ring the bells! The wicked witch is dead!

    • @byersvhs
      @byersvhs Před rokem +69

      AND in the book, Dorothy (luz) being blessed by the Good Witch of the North (papa titan), the Wicked Witch (belos) could not attack her directly (shown during his final moments)
      "For I am the Good Witch Luz!"

    • @kylosnow
      @kylosnow Před rokem +39

      After reading this I had a brief moment where I actually thought Dorothy had curbed stomped the witch as she melted. Now I can't get that image that out of my head lol

    • @robbieking4070
      @robbieking4070 Před rokem +32

      @@kylosnow Belos: I’M MELTING~! MELTING~! WHAT A WORLD~! WHAT A WO- **STOMP!!**

    • @jamesgiles4517
      @jamesgiles4517 Před rokem

      The burn 🔥

  • @L0rdOfThePies
    @L0rdOfThePies Před rokem +201

    I love how luz asks papa titan if hurting belos will make them just as bad as him and hes like “whaat?? Of course not!”
    I hate when characters say they’re “refusing to stoop to the villains level” when giving them what they deserve for their actions. You can’t compare punishing a tyrant to being a tyrant yknow 😭

    • @scribblerstudios9895
      @scribblerstudios9895 Před rokem +56

      To quote a good uncle "No. She is crazy and needs to go down."

    • @Turquerina
      @Turquerina Před rokem +29

      ​@@scribblerstudios9895Oh man, I love Iroh. But yeah, some people are just not worth it and they deserve punishment.

    • @HyouVizer
      @HyouVizer Před rokem +29

      ​@@scribblerstudios9895 i laughed hysterically when 1st hear that line. Iroh is usually empathic towards others. But his niece he's like "nah this bitch cray, end her nephew"

    • @tobsonasanya4765
      @tobsonasanya4765 Před rokem +1

      @@HyouVizer wasn't Iroh a bad person before though.

    • @7Rover
      @7Rover Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@tobsonasanya4765Yes but he realized his actions. He acted on his feelings of anger from his son’s death. But the important thing is that once he goes through the stages of grief, he realizes that what he was doing was actively putting others through the same grief he went through. He grew and accepted that he was wrong

  • @lilygamingtheories1410
    @lilygamingtheories1410 Před rokem +638

    It did feel kind of incomplete, but when you have to condense a whole season to 3 long episodes it’s going to be that way.

    • @Andromeda42
      @Andromeda42 Před rokem +100

      Yeah. There shoulda been more, but nooo, Disney had to cancel it. I'll admit I'm still a little salty. But hey, the ending we got is still pretty good. I'll definitely have some nostalgia for it.

    • @tb14333
      @tb14333 Před rokem +44

      I hope people who watch the show in the future understand that

    • @RainbowNiffty
      @RainbowNiffty Před rokem +1

      ​@Kat I mean it was bob iger or chapek (I don't know the name)

    • @Ocelot_Growl
      @Ocelot_Growl Před rokem +44

      I’ll bet Dana had the plot of season 3 all figured out before it was cancelled. I think when Disney shortened it, the writing team had to work around telling the story in a different way. I think Dana even said The Collector wasn’t originally in the show! Even if, dare I say it, season 3 was perhaps just a little rushed due to it being shortened in such short notice (especially when you’ve been working on your story for YEARS and now you have to rework the official ending) you cannot deny the show had great writers who made the best of what they had and I love it. Thank you, Dana Terrace and crew.

    • @gabyyyyyyyyy
      @gabyyyyyyyyy Před rokem +2

      idk i felt like it was complete enough

  • @itsnotthatdeep6657
    @itsnotthatdeep6657 Před rokem +327

    I saw another theory video that said they thought Luz used the very last little bit of power she had left to summon the boiling rain because even in that moment she couldn't stand to kill him but knew that was the only way to get rid of him. So she used the rain as a way to allow nature to take its course. Which would explain why it only lasted like 10 seconds and was so heavily emphasized why she was protected against it.

    • @StarcoFanatic
      @StarcoFanatic Před rokem +89

      Luz is quite literally the embodiment of "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" in that moment

    • @Guardianten2002
      @Guardianten2002 Před rokem +37

      The idea that a short lived storm kicked up and washed away all that was left of Belos is not infeasible as similar storms have been used in other animated series. All Might's punch in My Hero Academia which created a tornado and caused it to rain for a short while after. Or Sasuke's Fire in Naruto, creating a depression and thus causing a lightning storm to boost the power of another of his attacks. Luz ripped Belos free of the heart and all the chaos he created trying to bring that power under his control could have had any number of effects. Eda, Raine and King were all blown away!
      Of course the idea of it not even being conscious could be argued. Luz is not going to kill him and remains a pure uncorrupted character. But she still isn't or can't bring herself to save him. Deep down she just wants him to go away. The Power she gained from the Titan, calls the storm and washes Belos away but she herself is protected from its effects indicating that this was of her own creation or is just naturally immune. Coincidence or latent desire the effect was the same. Who can say how the power of a Titan would respond to its wielder in such a circumstance?

  • @Caffin8tor
    @Caffin8tor Před rokem +260

    One storyline missing from the show was "Who was Evelyn?" All we know about her is that Flapjack was her palisman and that she drew Caleb to The Demon Realm. Based on her portrayed appearance, her name similarity to Edalyn and the owl stopper on the vial of Titan's blood, I'm 99% certain she was a Clawthorne and a direct ancestor to Eda.

    • @Stargazer_Ley
      @Stargazer_Ley Před rokem +29

      I kind of hope that we get that spin off (the Young Eda one) and maybe even a Caleb story. Sure we'll know what things have to happen but we don't know how and I want confirmation on these things.

    • @StarcoFanatic
      @StarcoFanatic Před rokem +34

      I definitely felt like they wanted to definitively answer that with all the hints that point to that fact, but, I think leaving it open-ended was the best choice in the long run. It gives us something to speculate on long after the show is over, but it's open enough that it could be a plot thread they explore if there's ever a continuation.

    • @xyreniaofcthrayn1195
      @xyreniaofcthrayn1195 Před rokem +34

      it's implied that Caleb and Evelyn are the progenitors of the clawthorn family especially since papa clawthorn looks suspiciously like an elderly hunter, but it shouldn't be too much for say a comic featuring a time pool to figure it out.

    • @catrasuperiority5013
      @catrasuperiority5013 Před rokem +8

      yes, considering eda's mother knew abt philip and eda was the one who found the portal they are probably connected

    • @sirensong237
      @sirensong237 Před rokem +14

      Probably Eda’s ancestor. Hinted at with the names, Edalyn, Evelyn.. even the palisman is a bird.. shown that only birds were a Clawthorne trait.. Eda has an owl, Lilith a Raven, Gwen a hawk, and Dell a cardinal. Much like Flapjack.
      Evelyn also looks like Eda. The large hair, the red dress, and bird palisman. I assume this is always why he hated her. She’s a wild witch that was descended from his brother’s lover..

  • @Destin
    @Destin Před rokem +255

    Its a great ending. Even as he dies he avoids responsibility. "It was a curse that forced me to do those horrible things." That right there showed everything. He both admits the things he did was terrible and refuses to accept responsibility. Evan as he lies he refuses to admit he did anything wrong. You see the first and most important part of forgiveness is admitting fault. I believe anybody can be forgiven but to do that you have to admit you did the wrong thing, show remorse, and willingness to change. Belos, he can't even fake being the villain in his story.

    • @StarcoFanatic
      @StarcoFanatic Před rokem +48

      I think that's why Luz simply stood there silently. She couldn't even begin to believe his audacity, that he'd STILL try to deceive her after everything. That was when she decided to not even bother trying to save him. You know you're fucked when the ever-forgiving positive Luz just watches you die silently without even lifting a finger to help you.

    • @everythinggirly916
      @everythinggirly916 Před rokem +12

      Well said, I agree.

    • @amandab3946
      @amandab3946 Před rokem +2

      Belos was sooo irredeemable. You can’t forgive someone who isn’t even sorry!

  • @pockystyx4087
    @pockystyx4087 Před rokem +258

    Belos being stuck in a state of arrested development; thinking he can still be that hero who hunts witches. Guy killed his own brother; then blamed it on the witches, corrupted his own body, and blamed it on dark magic, and began sipping his own Kool-Aid so hard, he has a multi-layered mind-space working 24/7, performing the longest sequence of mental gymnastics known to mankind. Papa Titan also doing a lot to lay it out clearly for Luz (who's so pure that she STILL compared herself to Phillip).
    It's funny; Luz is his exact opposite, having grown out of her fantasies of being a hero, and instead naturally becoming one. Belos had to lie, steal, and cheat his way into everything; and earned his bad ending. Meanwhile; Luz struggled to get anything, working hard to forge bonds, and earned her happy ending. Also love that Belos may have stolen the titans body, but Luz was gifted his soul at the end.

  • @VixeyFrost
    @VixeyFrost Před rokem +108

    I kinda find it very poetic that Belos is stomped out by actual residents of the Boiling Isles, and a couple leaders of the rebellion no less. Two witches and a Titan were the ones who ultimately squashed him like a bug, a pest. They reclaimed their power and their home just like they worked to do. Luz didn’t feel the need to step in and do it herself, she didn’t need to deliver the final blow and be the ultimate savior, she just watches. She lets it happen and lets her friends, her family, finish him off and save their home from him once and for all. It was an excellent choice.

  • @WanderingRagabond
    @WanderingRagabond Před rokem +58

    I do so love Belos' pathetic demise. It reminds me of Light Yagami's own end in Death Note, at least in the manga. He's not given a dignified death, he dies kicking and screaming, terrified of the exact same fate he had subjected millions to.
    In both cases, it's meant to highlight that those characters are NOT the tragic saviors they wanted to be perceived as, instead showing them for what they really are: immature, narcissistic monsters.

  • @IM-vv5dm
    @IM-vv5dm Před rokem +188

    I love how in the last scene with Belos, Luz is the actual one who's carrying out the Titan's will that Belos claimed so long to be acting on. She stands before him as the hero he fooled himself into believing he was.

    • @Lyko5
      @Lyko5 Před 6 měsíci +1

      not only that but she shows as a human standing tall and glowing, not even the acid rain affects her and Bellos is groveling on the floor, a pile of mud of a monster begging for mercy unable to ustain himself

  • @AH-is5yg
    @AH-is5yg Před rokem +98

    Since ghost Caleb wasn't there to see Belos's death, Luz was given Belos the same look Caleb gave him. Luz walk away from Belos not telling him a word is very powerful.
    Also, Belos's death was fitting and he gets killed by Eda, King, and Raine, he ruined their lives over the years and he underestimated them.
    Eda is a descendant of Caleb and Evelyn and Belos's great great great grand niece.
    King, Belos used King's dad and abused his father's glyph magic over the centuries (King's dad tried to hide the magic from him also King's dad bless Luz the power she needed to defeat Belos.
    Raine is what Belos did to Raine and everyone in the Boiling Isles. Belos used Raine's body and Eda's loves Raine.
    Being killed by these 3 is very poetic justice.

    • @Stargazer_Ley
      @Stargazer_Ley Před rokem +14

      Raine may not have been able to fight Belos head on for long but they were able to help end Belos's reign of terror. (Pun not intended.) Raine even said it was "kind of satisfying."

    • @AH-is5yg
      @AH-is5yg Před rokem +11

      @@Stargazer_Ley After what Belos did to Raine, Raine had every right to kill that monster. Belos never once told Eda that he's her great great great grand uncle...though he didn't even care anyway.

    • @Stargazer_Ley
      @Stargazer_Ley Před rokem +8

      ​@@AH-is5yg Oh absolutely. I'm glad Raine got a chance to end Belos. They were able to make an impact at the end of the story. They were also powerful enough to stop Belos. They fought back and I think that is what helped Luz fight Belos. Raine wasn't sidelined during the fight. They did something important and that's acknowledged at the end.

    • @AH-is5yg
      @AH-is5yg Před rokem +7

      @@Stargazer_Ley glad Eda King and Raine were there helping Luz fighting Balos. The show started with three main characters and the final battle ended with them. Glad Raine got to be there

  • @shiroko6333
    @shiroko6333 Před rokem +76

    IMO This rain,which kinda ended Belos,have special meaning. Water is a sign of purification. Water helps you to see,what things really looks like. Normaly you clean up sth dirty. But this time real dirt is underneath cover, underneath every single lie Belos/Philip told. Also rain is like a force of the nature. The Boiling Isle itself revenged on Belos and for me it's greater than if it was done for anyone.

  • @eldritchexploited5462
    @eldritchexploited5462 Před rokem +28

    I think ultimately the best part of Belos' death is that in the end, his single greatest and most enduring strength; his deceit and cunning fails him. He's come back from the brink of death so many times just through perserverance and manipulation, but it's just not enough this time. His lies have caught up to him, he's played every card, made every gambit and he has *nothing* left. So he panics, his lies get sloppy and the cracks show in his facade of deciet and Luz sees right through it. She knows him by now, knows exactly what he's capable of and takes no chances. He's already dying, and all she has to do is wait for the rain to finally shred him apart.
    He fucking fails at the *one thing* he's always had, and pays the ultimate price

  • @spiceandice5906
    @spiceandice5906 Před rokem +401

    It's funny because you can see parallels between Belos's actions toward the people and the boiling isles. Belos lived his life manipulating and harming people to get his way even if it meant also losing his sanity. I believe that in the final ending between Belos and Luz, you can see the different paths both of them chose though they had the same upbringing and ideals they had. Even in his last moments, he tried manipulating his way out of things only to meet one person who couldn't be swayed although they were almost the same. It shows he never accepted defeat and thought he could manipulate his way out of things. His ignorance was what brought him to such power and what defeated him in the end. Although it may seem strange that he died by getting stepped on it's fitting since he never saw witches as people to begin with, always thinking they were beneath him and "stepping" on them to show he was better than them because he was human. So the best way to kill the oppressor is to use the same way they used to abuse their power stepping on them to show how little they actually were.

    • @golden-prism
      @golden-prism  Před rokem +61

      I really like this explanation of ending up getting stomped on being a reflection of his own treatment of the witches and how despite spending so much time among them, he never learned how to see them as equals. It's a really good way to look at it.

    • @queenperrytheplatypus458
      @queenperrytheplatypus458 Před rokem +2

      Ahhh... one little thing, Belos and Luz didn't have the same upbringing and ideals. Belos grew up learning to hate and burn witches, Luz grew up loving witches and even wishing to be one

    • @rtm117
      @rtm117 Před rokem

      @@queenperrytheplatypus458 we could compare it to caled and phillip. caleb and phillip both had the same upbringing, but caled chose to see witches for whop they actually were and phillip rejected this train of thought. even after being given countless chances by witches and humans alike, he was still willing to lie and cheat his way into being a saviour.

    • @queenperrytheplatypus458
      @queenperrytheplatypus458 Před rokem

      @@rtm117 Ya

  • @nightmare348
    @nightmare348 Před rokem +17

    I adored how Titan Luz was silently glaring at Belos while he went on his "poor me, nobody understands me" schtick, because she finally realized that he never wanted to be redeemed after her optimism burned her more than once. He had literal CENTURIES to redeem himself, and yet he dove into horrible shit like Tom Riddle, King Galbatorix, and The Lich King, all immortals in their own worlds, did. His last words, "We're human, we're better than this!," is ironic, since Belos long since shed any humanity he had left after shanking his brother Caleb and trying to commit a fucking genocide on an entire race.

  • @WezelLispProductions
    @WezelLispProductions Před rokem +13

    I love the titans line about "you assume belos comes from a genuine place." It helps to emphasize that not every villain deserves redemption or understanding. Some evil people aren't misunderstood, but instead they are just plain evil. Lately there have been to many shows that are line "violence is never worth it" and "everyone deserves a second chance" but that gives kids a false ideology. Sometimes the only way to defeat a foe is to destroy them. Some people may be misunderstood, but there are also people who are just Hitler. And it's OK to punch Hitler. He's literal Hitler!

  • @Arceus-dicklick
    @Arceus-dicklick Před rokem +28

    in the party scene luz, gus, willow, hunter and amity all had coven like tattoos depicting flapjack, they marked themselves as flapjack's coven and that's just really sweet

  • @drfrogscript
    @drfrogscript Před rokem +47

    For me, the fact Belos died ordinarily and without any final grand spectacle on his behalf was a fitting way for him to go. In my opinion it proved that no matter how many palismen he consumed, no matter how drastic the measures he took to avoid death were, it still came either way and he died plainly and the same was as a human, witch, or demon might have died. The fact he died as Phillip, not Belos or whatever you call his possessing-the-Titan form, also helps tie into that.
    It all really just highlights that he wasn't the god and savior that he thought he was. And I'm happy with that final puncture to his ego.
    (tbh it kinda reminded me of book Voldemort's death)

  • @Jack-sy8mr
    @Jack-sy8mr Před rokem +220

    “He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you”

  • @mintymakes2396
    @mintymakes2396 Před rokem +14

    9:30 I LOVE this line because every time you hear it, it sounds like Belos is going to say *"You'll be just as bad, just as conniving, just as evil, and just as unforgivable-"* you think he's going to say *'me'* as that's Luz's greatest fear, that she's like him. But he proves himself that he *IS* all those things and that Luz is not like him when he says *"-as those witches!"* Idk its just such an awesome line for me as it always gives me that feeling of him saying *'me'* and then him not... awww its so good.

    • @chongwillson972
      @chongwillson972 Před rokem +5

      @MintyMakes
      and it shows that he never changed and still kept the false notion that he was a hero...

  • @SooyeonIdle
    @SooyeonIdle Před rokem +35

    Belos was the definition of someone who couldn’t be helped and Luz realized that after multiple attempts of trying to reason with him the fact that Belos tried to make it seem like his curse was the issue made me laugh because he was like that way before his curse was at the state it was in.

    • @ItsB1998
      @ItsB1998 Před rokem +1

      Luz could have reasoned with him if she said the right thing

    • @Turquerina
      @Turquerina Před rokem

      ​​@@ItsB1998
      Okay Odalia, keep bootlicking.

  • @Octocide
    @Octocide Před rokem +21

    I like the fact that the first draft of the owl house had the boiling isles literally be hell and I find it fitting that a man so afraid of the devil became him instead.

  • @digieykid6096
    @digieykid6096 Před rokem +20

    One of the biggest differences I’ve always seen between Belos and Luz is that Belos would never hold himself accountable for anything while Luz holds herself accountable for everything distinctly including things that are in no way her fault.

  • @knucklestheceoofmemes7755

    After the last episode I must say Belos is clearly one of the best villains in modern time.
    His character shows us that some peoples actions are affected by the society. Back in the human realm during the 17th century he was really affected by the society which made him the witch Hunter we all hate and love at the same time. Some people say that he should have change since he was So long on the BI but when you kill your own brother there's no coming back because if you then stop you realize you killed him for nothing and your life becomes terrible. We even see he regret killing Caleb.
    And he was still trying even in his last moments. He tried to manipulate Luz for the last time so He could continue with his goal. That's some Real determination there.
    As I say.
    "The show is only good as it's villain"
    And only few villains can compare to Belos

  • @gooeydude574
    @gooeydude574 Před rokem +63

    His whole “I was cursed” bit was hilarious

  • @nocturnumshkin
    @nocturnumshkin Před rokem +52

    I kinda pity Belo's. I imagine that when he saw the isles and recognized that the witches weren't the evil demonic monsters he believed in he probably went mad at that point everything he believed right down the drain. His hate grew even stronger for the witches because they didn't meet his expectation of being the evil beings he had imagined which makes his character seem even more evil when you realize that he tried to shape the Isles into his preferred image of being a hellscape filled with evil.

    • @hanzquejano7112
      @hanzquejano7112 Před rokem +17

      I have a head canon about that:
      Caleb is the better witch hunter between the two. Philip wanted to be good at it too but found out that witches weren't evil and all they were trained for were useless. Thus, he went down his path to have a sense of purpose.

    • @hanzquejano7112
      @hanzquejano7112 Před rokem

      From what I observed, people who view themselves as "the weaker one" tend to use manipulation to get their way.

  • @aaaaaaaa-tz7tu
    @aaaaaaaa-tz7tu Před rokem +9

    nobody is beyond redemption until they *choose* not to be redeemed. belos is the perfect example of this. he had so many chances to improve and be better, so many chances to stop. so many people that WANTED to help. the difference between him and other characters in this show who got redemption arcs is at the end of the day, they were able to stop and ask themself "Is this a good idea?" they were able to look at themselves even if it was hard, even if it hurt, and try to be a little better. even if they didn't know how. amity thought she'd never be able to be happy, and STILL chose to try and be a better person and apologize for what she did. lilith had just realized just how BADLY she'd fucked up and even when she's realized she's wasted her whole life on one horrible selfish choice, she tried to go and be better. hunter's entire life was uprooted and belos was going to take him back in hollow mind, was praising him and giving him that opportunity to fall back under his wing, and he STILL made the hard choice. STILL stood up even when his entire world was falling apart, when he'd just lost everything. the collector made desperate bids to fix their horrible mistakes and in the end did what was right.
    but belos?
    belos had his chances. amity and hunter slapped at the hand trying to help them but they eventually took it, and they made that choice themself. belos CHOSE to never reflect. belos CHOSE to fall deeper. belos chose to go beyond that point of no return and then some. belos is a fantastic, complicated and nuanced villain. but he is still a villain. and at the end of the day? the only one responsible for his fate is belos.
    he made his choice.

    • @TrueBladeSoul
      @TrueBladeSoul Před rokem +1

      Yeah he was definitely unworthy of redemption but he could have been if he chose to try I mean Endeavour from mha was a terrible person for what he did while blindly trying to achieve his ambition but once he actually looked at his actions he was ashamed and dedicated himself to trying to be better redemption isn’t about deserving to be redeemed it’s about being willing to try

  • @downbeatdialga1341
    @downbeatdialga1341 Před rokem +72

    Imagine finding a way to extend your life for 4 centuries, and still failing to achieve anything of lasting substance. The biggest lasting impact that Belos had on the Boiling Isles was him repositioning the Titan’s left arm, so the birds that nest there now have to roost sideways.

  • @onionwielder9728
    @onionwielder9728 Před rokem +307

    Belos is my favorite character in this show. He is far from a good person, but as far as character development goes, he is amazing. As many redemption arcs as there are in modern media, it's always a delight to see the inverse, a complete downward spiral.
    Belos believes so deeply that the ends justify his means, so much so that he is willing to pose as a witch for lifetimes and toil away alone to enact a plan to commit mass genocide. He clearly didn't enjoy it, (at least the long wait it took) and he feels heroic for enduring it as a result. And if the witches of the Boiling Isles were true villains, he would be right. But he didn't allow himself to emphasize with them or see them as anything more than the impure monsters he was told they were.
    This ending is perfect for him. He doesn't go down with a fight, because without magic he's weak. And he doesn't slip away because he's told too many lies to be trusted now. He dies to the boiling rain, a poetic fate for someone who longed for the rain of the human realm he longed to feel again. And despite it all, he still believes he was right. Heck, since Eda pretty much indulges his last words suggesting that humans are better than witches and stamps the last bit of life out of him, he probably STILL thinks he's right in the afterlife.
    And it makes you wonder . . . what would Belos have done if he DID accept he was wrong? I'm not suggesting it could've happened, given how we've seen no evidence of that amount of self-reflection in him, but this is all purely hypothetical. What would he have done if he admitted he'd been wrong?
    I imagine he would have died anyway. He would have realized he'd become a greater monster than those he'd tried to destroy, and he would've accepted that there was no going back to his old life or finding peace in his new life.
    So he would've ended it. At least that way, he could see Caleb again.

    • @arandomthingintheabyss2062
      @arandomthingintheabyss2062 Před rokem +37

      ya just imagin during the scene he just has a complete emotional breakdown realizing everything he did was for nothing and basickly begging for death or something like that

    • @UnluckySuperstition
      @UnluckySuperstition Před rokem +27

      Suicide would also be deeply ironic for him as well, as traditionally suicide- through the lens of religion- is viewed as a permanent and immediate damnation to Hell forever by God with no exceptions.

    • @arandomthingintheabyss2062
      @arandomthingintheabyss2062 Před rokem +37

      @@UnluckySuperstition he already broke a lot of religious rules already adding one more wouldn't hurt

    • @grimmtheschoolaroffools2068
      @grimmtheschoolaroffools2068 Před rokem +3

      Yes, me too

    • @Sansundertale43
      @Sansundertale43 Před rokem +2

      Damn I got to read a book

  • @popculturedata
    @popculturedata Před rokem +63

    After everything he has done, Belos's life had to come to an end.

    • @HenshinFanatic
      @HenshinFanatic Před rokem +3

      Just wish it could have been a more satisfying one, but that would likely raise the rating to NC-17 from pure, excessively-gratuitous violence.

    • @chongwillson972
      @chongwillson972 Před rokem +3

      @@HenshinFanatic
      though the good thing about that is that countless children can watch him die somewhat brutally...

  • @glocrowhurst
    @glocrowhurst Před rokem +38

    Fantastic video! I actually liked that Hunter didn't confront him at the end. Like his connection to (and creation by) Belos is irrelevant, and he's just off to live his best life.

    • @annlouiserainey4888
      @annlouiserainey4888 Před rokem

      And besides, some victims abandon their victimizers; to see that justified revenge isn’t worth anything

  • @sarcasticat6979
    @sarcasticat6979 Před rokem +5

    The psychology of Belos fascinates me. He was fairly young (or it's implied he was, anyway) when Caleb fell for Evelyn, which means he was probably around the Hexsquad's age or younger when he killed Caleb. That kind of act done by an adult can fuck up their mentality, but for a child, who then (I assume) was also trapped in the demon realm, now alone, viewing everyone around him as an enemy with no way to get back to the human world? It's messed up, and of course all he could do was double, triple, quadruple down on his hatred for witches as a means of survival. He could never admit the truth because it would destroy him to accept that he killed his own brother for no reason.
    And thinking about where he came from, it makes sense. A little boy growing up in a town mercilessly opposed to witches and everything associated with them, it's basically a cult, and he's just a kid doing what the adults tell him to. Since he was older, Caleb was mature enough to think critically and realize that Evelyn wasn't the evil witch his town always told him to fear. But with Philip, he wholly believed in the cult-think... and with that in mind, of course killing Caleb would be the correct choice, if the alternate was that his soul would be doomed to hell by a witch.
    After that Philip just had to hold onto that mentality to survive. He had to tell himself over and over that he made the right choice, because there was no one else to tell him. There was no one else to comfort him in his grief. There was only witches, and THEY made him do it. And he internalized that line of thinking to the point that, even when he got old enough to think critically, it was too late to change his mind. Even if a witch was nice to him, even if they proved him wrong, his brother was still dead and nothing would change that. The grief and anger needs to go somewhere, and he decided to place it in revenge.
    It doesn't justify his actions but damn if it isn't interesting to think about.

  • @RukonTheCreator
    @RukonTheCreator Před rokem +7

    I love how in the final confrontation when Belos is begging Luz to save him, she just stands there in the same manner as Caleb with that same chilling look of disgust.

  • @bab00shka48
    @bab00shka48 Před rokem +10

    I think it's very worth reminding that King, Eda and Raine living in a hell of Belos's making. The system was opressive against them and they've lost a LOT living in it and fighting within it, so I find it poetic that they stompted his ass down. It's people of the Isles saying no.
    Also, I feel like Hunter already stood up to and showed that he's better than him. Hunter being at the end would have to take from this beautiful bow on the top just to have another scene with their confrontation.
    Great essay!!!

  • @gerrardjones28
    @gerrardjones28 Před rokem +23

    In trying to save humanity Belos lost his own, I think he is the closest thing to a true demon in the demon realm, great video by the way as all of them are!

  • @UnluckySuperstition
    @UnluckySuperstition Před rokem +74

    Honestly I think it would have been incredibly impactful if Luz said to Belos, after he grabbed her foot and said, _'were humans, were better than all of this!'_
    "No we aren't."
    Because in the end both of them weren't above any of what they went through, they just experienced and viewed the boiling Ilses,it's people, and it's magic differently. Which was perfectly demonstrated at the very end by Luz being a being comprised of literal titans magic, and even being protected by it in the boiling rains. While Belos completely having destroyed his own life, melts in the rain after having spent centuries abusing magic (pretty much against the titans will) and everyone Around him.

    • @watertommyz
      @watertommyz Před rokem +15

      She gazes at him the same way Calebs ghost does. It's fitting.

    • @HenshinFanatic
      @HenshinFanatic Před rokem

      Better response would be the following.
      Luz: No. I'm human. You? You're just filth in the shape of one.

    • @catgirlQueer
      @catgirlQueer Před rokem

      I don't think that would've been better
      this dickhead did not deserve any more of her attention
      being ignored in his dying moment hurt, Im sure of that, and I think that's how it should be

    • @RayneKravenSegura-fw1om
      @RayneKravenSegura-fw1om Před 3 hodinami

      I agree and disagree with this comment. While I think this idea is pretty cool, I think Luz not saying anything is fitting

  • @robxholicfoxyfan8552
    @robxholicfoxyfan8552 Před rokem +10

    An interesting example that people conflate with redemption is the Diamonds in Steven Universe. Yes, Steven tries to prioritize forgiveness but getting basically cut in half (removing his gem and half of his makeup) left him with intense PTSD and hatred for the Diamonds, resentment towards his mother, and violent thoughts about White Diamond. Not to mention his burnout on dealing with the aftermath of the war and several other people and gems he didn't redeem or befriend. He literally views the Diamonds as monsters, which by all accounts they are. He just took the path that would cause less universal damage, not necessarily the path he thinks the Diamonds deserve, and it's basically an option fueled by nepotism. If Rose was actually a Quartz and Pink a completely separate being, the universe would continue to be colonized and destroyed, and White Diamond wouldn't even come close to realizing she would do anything wrong, and Steven would have died way more easily, way earlier for multiple encounters he actually survived in canon.

    • @JamaicaZ160R1793010A
      @JamaicaZ160R1793010A Před rokem +1

      I don't think he hates the Diamonds per se but he certainly wants nothing to do with them. It's not about his feelings but what works better for peace.

    • @thesummoner6462
      @thesummoner6462 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@JamaicaZ160R1793010Ahave you watched Steven universe future, he legitimately hates them

    • @JamaicaZ160R1793010A
      @JamaicaZ160R1793010A Před 3 měsíci

      @@thesummoner6462 Hatred and resentment are two separate things. I said he didn't hate them but I didn't say he loved them either.

  • @pumpkin_pants3828
    @pumpkin_pants3828 Před rokem +17

    belos becomes so much better and more believable when you see things from his perspective. sure it's a twisted, horrible, wrong perspective, but it explains his actions pretty well. he basically sees himself as the doomslayer

  • @christophersanchez7731
    @christophersanchez7731 Před rokem +10

    He did deserve his fate, still one can’t help but understand how he ended this way
    I’m some ways, he reflects on what Luz could have been
    Phillip was an outcast in both the Demon Realm and the human realm
    On Earth, he was an orphan with his brother Caleb and wandered into Gravesburrow, which their Purtian Neighbors made it hard for them to fit in because they were strangers and different
    To fit in, the brothers became Witch Hunters, with Phillip the more of a zealot
    But it’s always been him and Caleb against the world, as Caleb was the only person he can rely on
    Then Caleb met Evelyn Clawthrone and was spirited away to the Boiling Isles
    Phillip caught up and saw his brother in a relationship with a Witch
    Philip was brought up by the Puritans to believe Witches are monsters, servants of the Devil, and they ensared his brother
    In a fit of rage, he struck down his brother, but blamed the Witches for causing the situation to happen.
    Even while a part of him was fascinated in exploring this world. Being the inquisitive nerd Luz is, he still sought to destroy it all to protect humanity back home
    He brought back his brother as a Grimwalker, but over time, the good natured personality the Grimwalkers inherited from Caleb, made then question and betray Phillip
    He killed them, and recreate them again and again, until he was used to it, seeing them as puppets made in the image of his brother to be used as such
    Alone, having no one to drag him out of his loneliness and fear, he became the narcissistic Emperor Belos
    Luz always sympathized with Philip, seeing they were both misfits that simply wanted to belong in the world, and both became castaways to the Boiling Isles. At first Luz thought she found a kindred spirit, until the revelation he was Belos broke her for a time
    By the finale, she saw he can’t change, Nor want to change, he won’t stop as long as he’s alive. So she knew he was no longer worth it. Yet understand why he became this way, as if things were different it might have been her. She was blessed to found other misfits and friends to save her from her loneliness, and give her reason to become the hero witch she always wanted to be
    Phillip only had Caleb, and that want was an obsession that broke him into murdering the one he loved and rationalized it’s the Witches’ fault it all happened
    So while Belos was an irredeemable villian. It’s still fascinating how complex he was making his character all the more interesting

    • @wisdommanari6701
      @wisdommanari6701 Před 11 měsíci

      He's a dipshit racist that ignored the good around him because it was easier than accepting he was wrong his whole life

  • @violetkerridge4154
    @violetkerridge4154 Před rokem +12

    Watching Belos disintegrate into a skull and suddenly remembering that this is a kids show lmao

  • @eipheres
    @eipheres Před rokem +6

    one thing i haven’t seen anyone talk about is how Luz IS actually "the chosen one." not in the traditional sense of being born special or arbitrarily prophesied for greatness, but as in being *literally chosen* by the closest thing the show has to a god- the titan himself- to inherit his magic. out of everyone on the boiling isles, the titan only showed Luz the glyphs, saved her from death, and gave her the last of his magic. he CHOSE her-
    -not because she was powerful, but because she was kind.
    he saw how much she loved the isles and the creatures that live there, how hard she worked to understand them, not because she wanted to control them like philip, but to be a part of them. how her kindness and optimism changed the lives of so many- eda, amity, willow, hunter, and king. how she always tried to protect and help everyone, even if meant putting herself at risk. the titan watched her grow into a hero through her own brave, selfless actions, and chose her to save the world.
    it’s a really neat subversion of the chosen one trope, and i think it’s really sweet luz got her childhood fantasy fulfilled in the end- just not in the way she expected.

    • @thesummoner6462
      @thesummoner6462 Před 3 měsíci

      Actually the titan gives her the choice and says "so, will you choose your self"

  • @alexanderyakubik2289
    @alexanderyakubik2289 Před rokem +9

    I think the biggest difference between Philip and Luz is that Luz wanted to be a part of the Boiling Isles, a part of this strange and magic world just the same as any other being in it, Philip always looked down at everyone and everything, believing he was superior to all the witches and demons, thinking he was better just by virtue of what he was by comparison. So I think it was perfect that Luz, who only wanted to learn and grow and understand this bizarre and crazy world and all its people was ultimately given its gifts freely and, in the end, looked down on the creature Philip became through his self centered self importance in pity and disgust.

  • @emperorbelos6835
    @emperorbelos6835 Před rokem +16

    I thought being curbed stomped was a tad disrespectful which was the point I guess but I just love that to the very end he’s evil no second thoughts no nothing he’s all in

  • @prophetisaiah08
    @prophetisaiah08 Před rokem +8

    I think there's a message in the show that anyone can be redeemed, but not everyone will be. Redemption isn't something that arbitrarily happens to a person, it comes to those who are willing to take responsibility for the harm they've caused and change. Belos and Odalia weren't willing to do that, so even when forgiveness was offered to them, it would never be accepted and the hurt they caused would never end. Good people offered to help them along the path of redemption, but they refused to change, so their destruction can only be blamed on themselves. You can offer forgiveness to someone like Philip, but unless he receives it with repentance, you don't have to try and protect him from the consequences of his actions.

  • @RylixBlizzai
    @RylixBlizzai Před rokem +18

    i love the fact his demise was him being put on the receiving end of what he had spent centuries doing
    stepping on others

  • @ameliablackpants7543
    @ameliablackpants7543 Před rokem +4

    Phillip/Belos is a brilliant example of writing a villain. Although the trope of the main antagonist of the story just wanting control is very realistic and still good, this brings a whole new scary viewpoint from the other perspective. Belos didnt want control per say, he wanted to be "the hero", usually the goal that falls into the hands of the protagonist / good guys of the story. Once he lost all his control and humanity he shouldn't have wanted to continue his journey but he did and fought with what little was left of him to complete what he wanted to do even at the cost of not being able to reap the "benefits" of his work; again, parallelling what usually is the main characters job. Belos has all the activity of a main character or good guy, and yet is as evil as can be. Which in my opinion makes him even more terrifying

  • @havenasmr5779
    @havenasmr5779 Před rokem +23

    Idk after seeing how a small bit of goo can make him come back again and again I'm kinda worried that they don't address that king is like "ew it's on
    my claws" and I'm like cmon again???

    • @RogelioALoya
      @RogelioALoya Před rokem +8

      To be fair it was very clear he was weakening at the moment so it could be he died while being stomped on

  • @serperiorandtheanimator9216

    I think kings dad saying at the end that “you think that belos’s motivation comes from a genuine place, when it really doesn’t. He just wants to be the hero of the story.”
    I think that’s a really powerful message for kids to take away. Not everyone is genuine with you, and it’s still taking me some time to learn that. Even after all this time, part of me wanted belos/Phillip to have a smidge of good left, to realise his mistakes, or to really be cursed. But no- I think Luz’s decision to step away was a good way to portray how a lot of victims of manipulation feel. They just want nothing to do with them. Then they let their loved ones just crush them 🤣

  • @matheusGMN
    @matheusGMN Před rokem +4

    I think it`s very fitting to show how pathetic Belos was, he literally had everything some people want: power, loyalty, respect, there was almost nobody that didn't fear him or didn't follow his orders to the letter, he could've lived a pretty good life like that, but his desire to kill all witches, his hatred, blinded him so much that despite having everything, he couldn't live with it, it's almost like Zuko in avatar, but while zuko gave up everything to do what was right, Belos gave up everything to do what was wrong

  • @raistlin3462
    @raistlin3462 Před rokem +3

    When even Luz Noceda is out of mercy, you know you have long crossed every line and burned your every bridge.

  • @zero-ol1rh
    @zero-ol1rh Před rokem +12

    Belos became a literal tumor for the Titan

  • @BamboAnimation
    @BamboAnimation Před rokem +3

    i've never seen so many people actively hate a cartoon villain this much its amazing

  • @XaranAlamas
    @XaranAlamas Před rokem +6

    Well said. The idea that not everyone can be redeemed or will want to be your friend or whatever is an important lesson which a lot of shows aimed at kids miss.
    As for Belos' end, I thought it was so effective that Luz doesn't say a word to him, she just looks at him in pity and/or contempt.
    Also fun that she became what he lied about being: she communed with the Titan of the boiling isles, she unlocked a new powerful magic from the Titan himself. She SAVED the Boiling Isles.
    Also: I love the animation of the Titan Luz fight, sure it's epic but also the absolute joy on Luz's face at casting magic for real, not just with glyphs. Despite the gravity of the situation she is so happy there, and happy to be doing it with her family. The but where her and King both go WEH! Is just adorable❤.
    I must admit, I thought the Titan was going to have left her with one last gift: a bile sac, so that even though glyphs no longer worked, she could start to learn a whole different form of magic. I guess it would have been a different take on the ending with King's glyphs, so I wasn't disappointed it didn't happen. All in all I liked that it was a genuinely good ending and the bittersweetness was entirely external factors, but within the show itself, pretty much everyone we cared about got a happy ending😊.

  • @nezumired
    @nezumired Před rokem +4

    I think it's fitting that Hunter, Lilith, and Amity got sidelined for the final battle. Their lives under Belos were defined by competition and isolation.
    Their arcs are all about letting go of ambitions in favor of deep, genuine connection.
    In the end, they're right where they need to be. Doing what they can, where they can even though their magic is exhausted. Showing up for the people who need them.

  • @santiagocaraballo1975
    @santiagocaraballo1975 Před rokem +18

    "You'll just be conniving, just as unforgivable and just as evil as those witches!" He is literally just describing himself, but he's just so self-centered that he blames it on the witches. That's just proof that he just can't be redeemed anymore. That's probably what Caleb's ghost was thinking when Belos blamed him for all this happening. Honestly, if he was still alive but was charged for his crimes, I'd give him till the day he freaking dies. All those things he did can't be forgiven. Belos is one of my favorite villains, and his defeat is one of the most satisfying defeats I've ever seen.

  • @Dbzmaster159
    @Dbzmaster159 Před rokem +4

    I honestly didn't want to see Owl House end, BUT Watching and Dreaming gave it a worthwhile sendoff. Luz befriending and protecting Collector while he learned how to make friends, and about the concept of mortality. When Luz briefly died I actually cried a bit even more so when King and Eda went berserk. Loved how down to Earth and chill Papa Titan was, and the epilogue.

  • @171QA
    @171QA Před rokem +7

    Great analysis. It's also poetic that Eda, King, and Raine were the ones to kill Belos. Eda is implied to be a direct descendant of Caleb and Evalyn, his brother and his wife who's lives he ruined after getting trapped in the Boiling Isles. King is the son of the Titan, the very being he tried to destroy but also pretended to be his shepard in order to manipulate the islands' populace. And then you have Raine, one of the few witches to question Belos' magic system, fought back him every chance they got and was Belos' last victim he used in his evil schemes. The only person mission from the moment would be Hunter as the last of the Grimwalkers who were made as a stand-in for Caleb and killed each one after they tried to rebel against him. But hey, the best revenge was seeing Hunter live a much more fufilled life in BI, surrounded by people who are far better influences than Belos ever was.

  • @hannahthelibrarian2933
    @hannahthelibrarian2933 Před rokem +8

    I found it satisfying that it was Eda, Raine, and King that stomped Belos to death. In a way, they each represented all the people Belos has wronged

  • @ShadySadie29
    @ShadySadie29 Před rokem +5

    I cried so hard from the very beginning, I loved it. Honestly, with the hand Dana and the others were dealt, I am FLOORED that the finale felt as complete as it did. There will be things that I wish we could have seen, I would have liked some closure on the Wittebane brother arc, but all things considered, I could not have imagined a better finale.

  • @hanzquejano7112
    @hanzquejano7112 Před rokem +37

    The scene that struck me the most was when The Collector tried to give "love and understanding" to Titan Belos. They were right, just too late. Just makes me wonder had someone done that to him earlier, could he not go to the same path? Belos is best villain, I empathized with him but shouldn't. I'm a mess.

    • @hanzquejano7112
      @hanzquejano7112 Před rokem +16

      I forgot that Caleb hugged him as a monster. So, there's really no excuse

    • @evanbao93
      @evanbao93 Před rokem +3

      Hug him when he was a child who just Caleb vanishing through the portal gate with Evelyn

    • @ItsB1998
      @ItsB1998 Před rokem +6

      I mean.... A hug can't make a villian Change their worldviews. There needed to be more than that to help Belos

    • @ismetcancelik5052
      @ismetcancelik5052 Před rokem

      collector wanted to fix their relationship.

  • @eviljust9793
    @eviljust9793 Před rokem +39

    He died as he lived, lying and hating.

  • @kieranwrightstone2199
    @kieranwrightstone2199 Před rokem +20

    I mean he was killed by the son of the Titan he preached to be supporting and possessed, one of his victims and main thorns in his side, and his implied great to the something niece. I would say that is more than fitting.

  • @benign_canine3423
    @benign_canine3423 Před rokem +10

    It's definitely a more fitting and poetic end imo, Belos's final moments were at the hand (or feet in this case) of the same people he set out to oppress and genocide. Even if Luz is the main character, she was never Belos's main target, just a persistent obstacle to overcome.

  • @mauroperez2848
    @mauroperez2848 Před rokem +105

    Despite the shortening, I still feel like this was a good way to finally end Belos. I love how Luz wasn't the one to give the finishing blow. Belos has to be one of my favorite villains in recent memory and a good example that some people are too far gone to be saved. Truly a fitting end to the self-proclaimed "Savior of Humanity/Witch Hunter General".

  • @stormbringer2064
    @stormbringer2064 Před rokem +5

    The final episode dropped on my birthday and it was absolutely satisfying

    • @golden-prism
      @golden-prism  Před rokem +2

      Late happy birthday then! 🎂

    • @stormbringer2064
      @stormbringer2064 Před rokem +1

      @@golden-prism thank you so much that means a lot I'll be sure to watch your channel more often it's always thoughtful when CZcamsrs reach out to individuals

    • @golden-prism
      @golden-prism  Před rokem +2

      Aww, thank you! And of course :) I’m here mostly to ramble about fictional stories but I want to build a kind and supportive community as well. Besides, being kind costs nothing! ❤️🙏

    • @stormbringer2064
      @stormbringer2064 Před rokem +1

      @@golden-prism kindness is an absolute powerful thing that cost absolutely nothing and I always wanted to do YouTubing but lol me rambling about nonsense is boring when nobody is actually your friend so I haven't do it yet

  • @lmj2823
    @lmj2823 Před rokem +3

    I think it was actually very significant that Belos was stomped on by Eda, King and Raine. There was someone on tumblr that worded it beautifully but I can’t remember their name sorry. But they talked about how they all collectively represent the people that he used in order to fulfil his own hero complex.
    Eda - Eda represents all of the ‘wild witches’ that were vilified and punished for not conforming to his ideologies who he used to build up his own reliability to the rest of the boiling isles. Additionally there’s the speculation that Evelyn was a Clawthrone so it would also mean a lot if one of her descendants were one of the ones to give the final blow as well
    Raine - Raine represents all of the citizens of the boiling isles who he manipulated and used as puppets like he literally did Raine to get to the collector, Raine being there acts as a last reminder to him that basically everyone on the boiling isles no longer unwittingly suck up to his ego and will dismantle his corrupt system as they (Raine) wished to all along
    King - Belos used the name of King’s dad in order to be believed and trusted like the cult leader he was, claiming all of his acts as ‘the will of the titan’. To have the son of the titan himself stomp on his face in an act of pure disgust is perfect
    Whether hunter should of been there idk I personally think the poor boy just deserves to move on and let others stomp on him. Hunter moving on and doing all the things he wanted to that he described to Belos like carving palismen and just being happy is enough of a stomp to the face

  • @whiplash1317
    @whiplash1317 Před rokem +6

    something i feel fits quite well is this: belos was almost if not literally a cancer to the boiling isles, and as many have been saying his death was not one befitting a villain, not a monster or even a parasite, he was a cancer, and he got the death, of a cancer

  • @Bustermachine
    @Bustermachine Před rokem +4

    I just FINALLY watched this on D+, and I think the specials, and the whole 'Collector Arc' were just about as strong as the creators could make them given the runtime crunch they had to work with.

  • @tajklair
    @tajklair Před rokem +5

    He's one of the best villains i've seen.

  • @adamvancleave9200
    @adamvancleave9200 Před rokem +6

    There was a series from a while back that said something like "they always come back if the death was all dramatic". So, this is fine.

  • @mah29001
    @mah29001 Před rokem +3

    It was so cute of the way King stomped on Belos/Phillip.

  • @nickkennedy9034
    @nickkennedy9034 Před rokem +3

    This is a fairly refreshing perspective. The first bit of community media I looked at after the show ended was one Lily Orchard and wow she just had nothing but contempt for the show.

  • @Shimase24
    @Shimase24 Před rokem +72

    I would've been beyond angry if for some reason Belos actually got redeemed

    • @monochromeink.
      @monochromeink. Před rokem +16

      glad they didn't pull a steven universe on us

    • @chloejoyhenry3137
      @chloejoyhenry3137 Před rokem +7

      Well at that point it was too late for him to get redeemed

    • @watertommyz
      @watertommyz Před rokem +13

      Dude was gonna kill innocents at any cost, including his humanity. This is not a redeemable character.

    • @MichaelJW72
      @MichaelJW72 Před rokem +5

      Andrias: I must be the most irredeemable character ever.
      Belos: I’ll play (shows him his biggest hits).
      Andrias: Dude, that’s more messed up than anything I ever did. And I stabbed a teenager through the chest then hooked her up to an evil AI.

    • @ItsB1998
      @ItsB1998 Před rokem +2

      ​@@MichaelJW72 Andreas just had fun with tormenting people though. Belos did not

  • @larrytherustyboii7442
    @larrytherustyboii7442 Před rokem +4

    Yep dude's death was quite poetic, he lived as he died, being rotten, and was killed in the most anticlimactic way possible being stomped to death, no lazers, or big magical blast or any crazy stuff, just death in the most regular way possible because belos- no matter how hard he tried, he will never be anything special and never was.

  • @LadyDragoncat
    @LadyDragoncat Před rokem +8

    Seeing Philip getting stomped out of existence reminds me of one of Lunity Fan's comics: The Hexside Squad find Belos as he casts a spell to remove the palismen souls out of his body, restoring him to his human Philip form. And that's when he realizes that he made a big mistake. Now that he's human, he's no match for the Hexside Squad, who decide to give him a good stomping.
    While it would have been nice for Hunter to have joined in the stomping, Hunter was better off staying with the Hexside Squad. Knowing he's part of a new family is far more satisfying. After all... Living well is the best revenge, right?
    If anything, Caleb's ghost should have been there to watch Philip getting stomped on before giving Luz a smile and a nod before disappearing forever, having some closure once and for all.

  • @Supasmartguy
    @Supasmartguy Před rokem +3

    I would have loved to see a scene between Caleb and Phillip kind of like the scene between Ursa and Ozai in the Avatar The Last Airbender comics. THAT would have made it perfect.

  • @1andonlyTophBeiFong
    @1andonlyTophBeiFong Před rokem +4

    I think Eda, Raine, and King represent all the people of the Boiling Isles he hurt. Eda represents the wild magic/witches he destroyed, Raine represents the people who believed his lies and found out what he was really doing all too late, and King represents the present and future children whose lives will be forever effected by Belos’s actions as King is semi immortal and his life will extend through many generations of witches who will be impacted by what happened even though it happened many years before them.

  • @shadeskitsune7830
    @shadeskitsune7830 Před rokem +1

    I loved how immediately after Philip spun his lie about being cursed and was cured thanks to Luz. The boiling rain came in pelting him to make it clear (even when we knew he was lying) he hasn't changed mentally or physically.

  • @user-dv5py8ri1y
    @user-dv5py8ri1y Před rokem +18

    I’m so sad it’s over now 😢It’ll always be in my heart

  • @radix_is_rad
    @radix_is_rad Před rokem +6

    I think it's funny that Belos says, "we're human, we're better than this" because at the time, neither Luz nor Belos are human. Belos is a monster and Luz is imbued with the power of the titan, therefore somewhat of a demigod. Belos really grasped

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 Před rokem

      The melting slime mold trying to preach humanity to the demigoddess.

  • @SPM-
    @SPM- Před rokem +4

    He was such a menace even joker fears him
    He's evil batman would not hesitate to kill him

  • @swap1496
    @swap1496 Před rokem +15

    I loved belos' end, don't get me wrong but...
    I was really hoping he would explode. I just thought it seemed funny.

    • @soulmaster9481
      @soulmaster9481 Před 6 měsíci

      I recall some videos in my playlist where that happens.

  • @louisgentilucci1188
    @louisgentilucci1188 Před rokem +9

    I think the story benefits a lot from ambiguity, especially with Philip's story. It's unclear how long he chased Caleb, what exactly transpired in Caleb's killing (aside from the obvious), how he got his curse/what exactly is his curse, how he lived so long, etc. I mean, we don't even know how Philip followed his brother into the Demon realm, since presumably, Evelyn had the door and didn't let her husband's crazy brother through.
    The ambiguity helps the writers avoid nuances that would make Belos more sympathetic while allowing fans to imagine those nuances as possibilities. The writers can have it both ways because the important part, killing his brother, gets through, but fans can play in the space and imagine exactly how things went down, creating their own permutations without branding any one story as "canon." The details are essentially unimportant, so there is no need to divide the fans on them. It also avoids the weird conversation that Eda and Hunter are related, because any knowledge of who Evelyn was died with Belos.

    • @golden-prism
      @golden-prism  Před rokem +7

      Honestly, this is my take as well.
      And with a fandom as dedicated as this one, fans are going to fill the gaps anyway which is perfect for those of us who enjoy fan content. I get why some people might be a bit disappointed, but I think that the show used all the time it had to its full potential and gives just enough hints to allow us to reach our own conclusions and have fun with different interpretations and headcanons.

    • @louisgentilucci1188
      @louisgentilucci1188 Před rokem +1

      @@golden-prism Sometimes, less really is more. And great video!

    • @JamaicaZ160R1793010A
      @JamaicaZ160R1793010A Před rokem

      ​@@louisgentilucci1188 That is another great take. That story does not matter and will now die since it's over. Saying the whole story would ruin everything.

  • @Doctor_Bamias
    @Doctor_Bamias Před rokem +7

    I don't know if it really works like that,but i like to think that the rain in the end was Luz's doing, knowing that Belos is irredeemable and that there was no chance that he will accept his fate or change his ways despite his defeat

    • @ItsB1998
      @ItsB1998 Před rokem +1

      He wasn't irredeemable

    • @cbfranco3307
      @cbfranco3307 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​​@@ItsB1998 Tell that to all the clones of his brother he mercilessly killed.
      And before you say he didn't enjoy it, when the Collector implies Belos likes doing it, despite Belos saying he doesn't, he SMILED just before answering. Proving that, he does. He does enjoy murdering his brother over and over and over and over and over and over again. Also, he didn't WANT to be redeemed because he didn't BELIEVE HE NEEDED to be redeemed. If someone doesn't want to be redeemed, then they can't be redeemeed. It's a choice they have to make, and Belos is far too delusional and self-absorbed to believe even for a second that he needs redemption. Not to mention he betrayed then tried murdering the Collector despite the Collector being neither a witch nor a demon therefore logically Belos shouldn't have a problem with him.

  • @galaxiesplantcorner9328
    @galaxiesplantcorner9328 Před rokem +4

    I'm very happy they chose not to redeem him like white diamond in Steven universe

  • @neurodivergentlily
    @neurodivergentlily Před rokem +2

    "Some people will reject your help regardless of your intentions, because they aren't ready to accept it - and sometimes they never will." Oh. That hit hard.
    Well done - well done.

  • @MathasiaJ
    @MathasiaJ Před rokem +5

    The other thing about the ending is that it can be argued that Luz and the Titan did actually kill him, because Luz spawned the acid rain using the power of the Titan who was inside her

  • @skycreeper0173
    @skycreeper0173 Před rokem +6

    Super awesome video. I really enjoyed your thoughts on Belos. He really is the worst of the worst.

  • @catd5307
    @catd5307 Před rokem +43

    I really like how The Owl House shows that some ppl just can’t be redeemed not only with Belos but also with Dahlia and the corrupt coven heads.

    • @bananatiergod
      @bananatiergod Před rokem +1

      Seeing Odalia not being hugged is equal levels of sad but also understandable since they realize what a horrible person she is, not to mention a shitty wife and mother

    • @samuelclayhills3298
      @samuelclayhills3298 Před rokem +1

      Odalia deadass got no visable punishment at best she lost her reputation so yall wack.

    • @catgirlQueer
      @catgirlQueer Před rokem +11

      @@samuelclayhills3298 she lost her family, her reputation, her *control*
      she lost, in her eyes, everything

  • @asscheeks3212
    @asscheeks3212 Před rokem +2

    Jack Horner: " an irredeemable monster who victimizes himself and seeks attention? Man after my own black heart"

    • @chongwillson972
      @chongwillson972 Před rokem +1

      @ass cheeks
      you think jack would love or hate, that belos can never admit he is evil ,and is instead is actually the hero?

  • @someperson3390
    @someperson3390 Před rokem +3

    I think something I would've liked to see is related to the point brought up in the video about the mentioning of Caleb. I think one thing we could've ended with is Belos as a shriveled and decaying,for lack of better terms, geezer who sees the phantasm of Caleb (and maybe the unnamed witch) standing behind Luz and Belos just loses his shit, attempting to lunge at Luz only for him to get hit by the boiling rain. From that point, I think he would suffer a similar fate to what actually happened in the show but the only difference is he's a weeping, pathetic mess. I thought it would be fitting that the Caleb, the very first person he killed in the Demon Realm, would be present at the time of Belos' own death.