I bought a cervelo R3 new back in the early 2000s. $5000US or so in year 2005 money. Crashed it hard and did not try to get the frame repaired. That was by far my favorite bike. I just bought another R3 off ebay for $800 shipped. I've been riding it for months. The thing is great. It's got some scuffed paint probably from a car bike rack, but otherwise looks brand new. I'm not delusional enough anymore to pay $10,000 or $14,000 for a bicycle.
i still can not get over the riders and their disc brake road bikes,,they dont have a clue how the industry pushed that disc brake crap down their throats ,,totally amazing,,paying more for heavier bikes and not seeming to care,,,i am on the lookout for the cervelo rca,,super super light rim brake bike but they are rare as hens teeth
Beast of a bike! Absolute deals out there if you spend a couple hours a day looking, a bike is one of the powerful investments for your health & life quality, Carbs FTW!! 💪💪💪
Thanks DurianRider, I recently bought a bike with Fulcrum Racing Zero (FRZ) wheels and, as you, love them. They are great for climbing albeit cant help think that there maybe some aero gains to be had with a deeper profile - what are your thoughts? Is there a wheelset out there that competes with the FRZ`s & offers a better aero profile (my use - Gran Fondo & everyday riding)
100% agree, durianrider you're a great, 2020s are insane years in road bikes world. Greetings from Fulcrum's state ( I have the Giro tuesday at 5 km from home )
How on earth do you get that bike down to 6.7kg? I have the exact same frame in 58, ( eBay, £800 gbp) . Full Ultegra and Mavic Ksyriums, with pedals and 2 bottle cages, 8.3kg. Any tips on getting that down to 6.7 will be much appreciated 👍
I have rim brake, full carbon with old red/f22 groupset, bike, but i anyway looking to get disc brake modern bike, because of tyre clearance, old ones cant be installet 28-32mm tires with wider rims for comfortable riding. That why new bikes are more comfortable for riding at this point.
rebuild a chromoly bike, preferably tange 2, columbus, reynolds 531, etc. then rebuild one of these used carbon bikes. then compare for yourself. you'll acquire tools, knowledge, and patience. then you will be able to run your own scientific experiments. publish your findings on youtube for the world to see.
Short answer - no. I did similar a few years ago. It’s a very comfy ride: more like an armchair and no real zip compared to a carbon / alu frame. Good for winter or touring, but not if you want to blast around for an hour.
whatever you ride most will be the best for you if you think 200 grams make the difference in winning the race and not the guys legs, keep spending more money!
Which is absolutely insane! I bought a ‘92 Trek 2100 pro with Shimano 105 for $80 3 years ago! I know its tech is outdated in comparison to today’s bikes but for $80 you’ll hear zero complaints from me. I have a blast riding it!
You can get brand new Alloy bike with rim brakes and carbon fork with sora/tiagra which is great, for1500 euros I can get new a new bike with ultegra 11 speed and lightweight aluminium frame
The problem is finding 10 speed running gear, trying to refurbish my 2012 Roubaix Sram red, can’t get 10 speed 50/34 SR chainrings for love nor money,after market also very scarce everything is 11/12 speed. Cranks in 165 no chance.
older Cervelos have very small tire clearance. Mine has a max of 25mm and very little room for any flex. So you're not riding 30 or 32 wide with low pressure on that frame
RS = Paris Roubaix bike. Can fit 30mm in here BUT I don’t run that because I’m going for SPEEED on this bike. I have a gravel bike for gravel. This is a ROAD bike. ✌️
Aside from tire clearance and wider gear ranges, i see no meaningful advances in road bike tech for the last 15 years for people who don't race at the pro level. And if I'm on a ride that requires either of those two advances, I'll ride my gravel bike instead. Completely happy with my lightweight 2011 Scott Foil with rim brakes and have no intention of replacing it with something more modern
Ur into climbing hills so u need ligtweight bike but many want a more versatile bike with wider tyres, rim brake bikes simply arent selling, so they get cheaper
For most people not racing these bikes would be too harsh. A newer bike with more relaxed geometry and wider tire clearance is just a better experience. You can lighten it up if you wish to but don’t have to. The weight won’t make much difference.
I love how the chinese brands are thriving, because the middle class cyclists (which make up 75% in the hobby) seem to come out in a rash when the chinese stuff is mentioned.
There is an alternative for folks like you. Look through the old ads from people posting ridiculous prices, as a result these bikes have sat for many, many months, I've seen them advertised for a year, withdrawn, then re-advertised. They've worn out their market by taking offence to realistic offers. Just talk truth to them nicely, & maybe.
I bought a cervelo R3 new back in the early 2000s. $5000US or so in year 2005 money. Crashed it hard and did not try to get the frame repaired. That was by far my favorite bike. I just bought another R3 off ebay for $800 shipped. I've been riding it for months. The thing is great. It's got some scuffed paint probably from a car bike rack, but otherwise looks brand new. I'm not delusional enough anymore to pay $10,000 or $14,000 for a bicycle.
Right on! Why spend huge money on a new bike that's a pig...with lipstick.
Rim brakes are king… old school is cool guys
What happens in the pouring rain down a hill?
@@newbluerugby squeeze harder! That’s how they used to handle things
@@newbluerugbywhat happens to the pass.
@@newbluerugbyyou brake a bit sooner
@@newbluerugby you still ride steel rims bro?
Fulcrum Racing zero nites are insane.
i still can not get over the riders and their disc brake road bikes,,they dont have a clue how the industry pushed that disc brake crap down their throats ,,totally amazing,,paying more for heavier bikes and not seeming to care,,,i am on the lookout for the cervelo rca,,super super light rim brake bike but they are rare as hens teeth
According to Pascal Chantur, President of the French Professional Cycling Union, the pros hate disc. Chris Froome and his mechanic hate them.
@@javiersmith2216 ya,,even the pros had them shoved down their throats and didne have the guts to tell the big bike companies,,,no way
Beast of a bike! Absolute deals out there if you spend a couple hours a day looking, a bike is one of the powerful investments for your health & life quality, Carbs FTW!! 💪💪💪
Thanks DurianRider, I recently bought a bike with Fulcrum Racing Zero (FRZ) wheels and, as you, love them. They are great for climbing albeit cant help think that there maybe some aero gains to be had with a deeper profile - what are your thoughts? Is there a wheelset out there that competes with the FRZ`s & offers a better aero profile (my use - Gran Fondo & everyday riding)
The videos from the back yard and tree stand are all ways ace.
I noticed you've got an AG2R t-shirt. What do you think about their success this year? Is it the new Decathlon bikes or their new doctors?
martin elmiger swiss champ kit from first half of 2011 great jersey
What dope is pog on after stage 15?
People see Tadej Pogačar and think,I must have exactly what he's got.Hes a pro,they are social riders,get over it.🤔
your tipps are gold, buddy
big groupset company are having a proposal plan for wider rim brake option due to consumer demand.
100% agree, durianrider you're a great, 2020s are insane years in road bikes world.
Greetings from Fulcrum's state ( I have the Giro tuesday at 5 km from home )
@@robbiddlecombe8392 Exactly but, especially in flat, it is very fast and just a moment. Tv isn't bad either!
absolutely, FACTS. thank you durianrider for spelling it out real good styles... punk styles
How on earth do you get that bike down to 6.7kg? I have the exact same frame in 58, ( eBay, £800 gbp) . Full Ultegra and Mavic Ksyriums, with pedals and 2 bottle cages, 8.3kg. Any tips on getting that down to 6.7 will be much appreciated 👍
Match my spec you see in the vid ✌️
I have rim brake, full carbon with old red/f22 groupset, bike, but i anyway looking to get disc brake modern bike, because of tyre clearance, old ones cant be installet 28-32mm tires with wider rims for comfortable riding. That why new bikes are more comfortable for riding at this point.
Many 2015 -2020 rim brake bikes can accommodate 30mm tyres with no issues
Harlston-
Your content is true and helpful. You hit the relevance target every time.
If ya know, ya know….
What would you do without a health food store ?
Im planning to buy a modern steel frame, RIM BRAKE. Hi Durian, do you think the modern steel can keep up with the new carbon bikes?
rebuild a chromoly bike, preferably tange 2, columbus, reynolds 531, etc.
then rebuild one of these used carbon bikes.
then compare for yourself.
you'll acquire tools, knowledge, and patience.
then you will be able to run your own scientific experiments.
publish your findings on youtube for the world to see.
then build a modern steel bike,
reynolds 853,
reynolds 725, etc.
and compare that to the other bikes.
Short answer - no. I did similar a few years ago. It’s a very comfy ride: more like an armchair and no real zip compared to a carbon / alu frame. Good for winter or touring, but not if you want to blast around for an hour.
Ride what is most comfortable and enjoyable and you will ride more
whatever you ride most will be the best for you
if you think 200 grams make the difference in winning the race and not the guys legs, keep spending more money!
I just bought Cervelo R3 SL, same. color way. Dude, rim (job) for the win. 13.4 lb build.
What are the best second hand rim brake wheels?
Need more context.
those black concave box rims, cant think of the name, every commuter has em
1000$ will get you a entry to the entry level bikes
Which is absolutely insane!
I bought a ‘92 Trek 2100 pro with Shimano 105 for $80 3 years ago! I know its tech is outdated in comparison to today’s bikes but for $80 you’ll hear zero complaints from me. I have a blast riding it!
You can get brand new Alloy bike with rim brakes and carbon fork with sora/tiagra which is great, for1500 euros I can get new a new bike with ultegra 11 speed and lightweight aluminium frame
I want those wheels cuzz!!
Recycling up cycling way to go.If you are starting to race this bike is perfect for beginners.You don't have to spend ten of thousands on a bike.
I bought a 2014 Orby Ordu on Facebook marketplace for Dura Ace Jewelry, full carbon bar set up $800!?!
Why size 58?
The problem is finding 10 speed running gear, trying to refurbish my 2012 Roubaix Sram red, can’t get 10 speed 50/34 SR chainrings for love nor money,after market also very scarce everything is 11/12 speed. Cranks in 165 no chance.
No it’s not lol 😆😆😆
try eu/uk shops, they even carry nos 5 speed stuff from the 70's, in the box
sick bike man
Got to get your take on Pog smashing the Giro.... apparently biggest lead since 1954...natty or not?
wow! what a sweet bike.
Not to mention half a kilo of shift cable housing.
And STILL lighter than the most exy Cervelo of 2024 😆😆😆
I'll buy this bike off you for $900 right now ❤️
That S5 on Reddit was me
older Cervelos have very small tire clearance. Mine has a max of 25mm and very little room for any flex. So you're not riding 30 or 32 wide with low pressure on that frame
RS = Paris Roubaix bike. Can fit 30mm in here BUT I don’t run that because I’m going for SPEEED on this bike. I have a gravel bike for gravel. This is a ROAD bike. ✌️
this guy is carbed out of his mind
Nah bro, he’s keto.
Whats your go to chain lube
Squirt lube.
@@durianriders dry or wet
@@josiahlomas2111 works for both
Yeah but all the latest disco gear makes me more pro and faster than everyone else 🤣🥰
And one major thing about "old" carbon bikes. Bild quality of "old" carbon frames is on much high lvl than modern carbon frames.
Exactly because they had to compete back then. Now these labels just sell themselves.
There is is pros to cons to everything dude
Aside from tire clearance and wider gear ranges, i see no meaningful advances in road bike tech for the last 15 years for people who don't race at the pro level. And if I'm on a ride that requires either of those two advances, I'll ride my gravel bike instead. Completely happy with my lightweight 2011 Scott Foil with rim brakes and have no intention of replacing it with something more modern
Real riders ride rim-brakes. “RRRR” 🔥
Wola wops, nice swiss flag ahoi👌
old bikes are ok for riding out. But if you're racing you'll notice with an old bike you are slower
Average TDF speed in 2005 vs last year.
Look how flappy the jerseys were in 2005 too.
Why are the strava times of amateur riders NOT faster?
They are a bit heavier but very efficient on the flat on high speeds
Ur into climbing hills so u need ligtweight bike but many want a more versatile bike with wider tyres, rim brake bikes simply arent selling, so they get cheaper
For most people not racing these bikes would be too harsh. A newer bike with more relaxed geometry and wider tire clearance is just a better experience. You can lighten it up if you wish to but don’t have to. The weight won’t make much difference.
Can put 30mm tires in the RS.
It’s designed for Paris Roubaix the best overall Cervelo ever released.
@@durianriders I need to ride one of these…I would to see how they feel on a 50 mile ride.
brakes dont dictate how wide your tires or rims are
I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my bike.
If prices remain absurd then china will take over with a big smile.the french brand origine remains loyal to rim though
I love how the chinese brands are thriving, because the middle class cyclists (which make up 75% in the hobby) seem to come out in a rash when the chinese stuff is mentioned.
Can you sell me a bike?! Im local here in Adelaide.. I try watch marketplace for the bargains but snipers like you are quick..
There is an alternative for folks like you.
Look through the old ads from people posting ridiculous prices, as a result these bikes have sat for many, many months, I've seen them advertised for a year, withdrawn, then re-advertised. They've worn out their market by taking offence to realistic offers. Just talk truth to them nicely, & maybe.
Look up his coaching group, they can help you buy a bike there.
ask around in real life, in your street supermarket bar etc, people spend money on a fancy bike and never ride it
First!!!