S-WORKS TARMAC SL8 V's CANYON AEROAD CFR! Showdown Between 2 Of The Best Road Bikes In The World.
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- čas přidán 20. 04. 2024
- The one you've been asking for!
In this video I ride my new Tarmac SL8 and Canon Aeroad back to back and give you my views on how each bike rides and which I prefer!
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Aeroad is the girl from the gym. Tarmac is the girl from church
The aeroad is just a stunning weapon and looks the part! Still today it’s the most beautiful and powerful bike ✌️✌️✌️ s works is stunner too but it’s a compromised bike and not purebred thus I love the CFR.
Totally agree about 30mm tires. Swapped to tubeless 30mm this year and they are a game changer. My bike is so much more comfortable to ride now.,
Exactly mate and they're also faster so it's a win, win 😁
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Would definitely like to see a review of the Aeroad with some wider tyres. Great video as always mate!
Thanks mate... I'm going to try 30's, see how much of a difference it makes 😊
Dave thanks I’ve been waiting for this review as was thinking of buying an Aeroad Thanks for sharing your thoughts .
Keep up the great work
Thanks mate, hope you found it useful 👍
New subscriber and really enjoying the channel. Have gone back to the beginning and loved your honesty regarding alcohol. Massive kudos to you for making the change. Very similar to you I have ridden bikes all my life but after an accident I stopped in 2019, threw myself into work and family and over ate massively. Didn't like what I was as I'd always been fit, but last October decided enough was enough, bought a new bike a smart trainer and started the long road back. So will be following your journey closely. Well done Dave
Awesome mate, I love hearing stories like yours.... Keep me updated on your progress 👏👏👏
I'm absolutely 100% committed to not returning to old ways...
Thanks for watching and the support 👍
great comparison, im glad i bought the sworks sl8. allthough i did never try the aeroad it was on my shortlist but after bianchi oltre, dogma f and cervelo s5 testrides i knew aerobikes are not for me. and the headtube detail you mentioned was the reason i pulled the trigger on the sl8. i can ride it slammed.
Awesome mate. The SL8 is such a great bike! The slammed set up looks so clean 👌
Thanks for watching 👍
S-Works looks so cool
Yeah, I'm a fan 😁....
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Great video for comparison, I’ve never had the chance to ride the SL8 or current Aeroad , they both seem like mighty beasts & you’re a lucky man to have such a predicament. 30 mm tyre definitely the way to go for comfort I’ve 30’s on my Cannondale but 28’s on both of my Pinarello’s . Keep up the good work and we all look forward to the next instalment of your progress, keep the rubber side down 👍🏽💪🏾
The bigger tyres has taken me a bit of time to get my head around but I'm a total convert now.... 28s in Spain, 30s for the UK 👌.
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Great video. Super helpful.
Where do you buy a replacement cockpit for the canyon?
Thank you mate.
Direct from Canyon 👍
2 years in with my aeroad and I’m still in love
Awesome 🙌. It’s a great bike, I just prefer the SL8. Just my opinion though.
Thanks for watching. 👍
Great video
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Amazing channel Dave, love the content, when you do local rides can you put the route down in the links.
Also what’s your views on e- bikes, planning on looking at one tomorrow
E-Bikes are great... If it means you're riding more and enjoying the bike, then happy days. My only advice would be to buy from a reputable brand and ideally a local retailer.... You'll likey need their support at some point...
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i also had the aeroad and the sl7, but for me i've never felt dialed in on the canyon wich i've totaly have on the sl7. so i sold the aeroad and bought the sl8, best descision i've made so far this year
Similar for me so far, but I've not really given the Canyon a chance... Still in 2 minds where to go with it next... I'm split on whether I should try a new cockpit and tyres or just sell it and move on 🤔....
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I think the aeroad is faster on the flat roads and a bit more harsh, and the sl8 better on the climbs
SL8 S-Works is the one 👌 great review 👏
It's an incredible bike 😎...
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Have you tried the Aeroad with the Roval wheels yet Dave? Apologies for the obvious suggestion but that should give you a good idea for direction of mods and maybe see what that does to the ride feel.
Yeah, I thought about doing this mate... Not sure on the DA C60's currently fitted... They're pretty hefty... I'll be sure to update as I go.
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I’d like to think I was ahead of the trends 😂… been running 30’s on my Sworks Roubaix for the last three years … continental gp’s with tubes at first, but since last year tubeless with Sworks Turbo’s. Much more tunability pressure wise with wider tubeless tyres. 😎👍
I've slowly made the switch... I couldn't get my head around it at 1st, but now there's no going back.
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Dave have you got both saddles at the same angle? Tarmac looks much more tilted down ?
Yes mate, I set them both up with a level.... You got me thinking, I should maybe check to make sure they haven't slipped 🤔...
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I am riding the aeroad with sram rival, even though it doesnt accelerate quickly it iss so crazy fast on high speeds and not so steep inclines. I think the sworks is better for your lower back though and for climbing.
I haven't ridden the Aeroad that often, but hope to get the position dialled in so I can enjoy riding it this summer.... I agree it feels quick when you get it moving 👌.
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Enjoy the videos as always! Currently on an ultimate and did really consider the Aeroad as my next bike but for some reason the SL8 just moves me more
Not that I’ve ridden either, mind you!
They're 2 great bikes mate, they just have different characteristics, so it really just depends what you're looking for.
Hope the video was useful and thanks for watching 👍
Great comparison, one super weird quesion... what brand are the pants ? :D I used to buy these for like 10 years from Celio and they discontinued it some years ago and I still can't find out anyone elese making these stretchy sweatpants like "jeans". Thanks! ;)
Haha... no worries ....
They're just some cheapos from Asos mate.
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Tell you what I'll take the canyon off you I'll treat it nice I promise 😂 interesting view. I have always loved aero bikes just look fast and just want to fly along. But I have always wanted an S-Works. If the venge was still about would you of brought that instead of the canyon? My dream bike was the venge vias back in the day it looked so far ahead of the time.
Hey, no worries! When would you like to collect it 🤣🤣🤣
Yes the VENGE would have been my 1st choice, but as it no longer exists, the Aeroad was best of the rest...
Be interesting to see if the Venge ever makes a comeback 🤔
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Loved this video, very informative, you got a new sub! I'm looking to get a first carbon bike soon (I hope) and my local bike shop got a deal on a Madone, I do not race, so it is a shallow look-based appearl on my side (think Ferrari :D) the logic would be to look at a Tarmac SL8 or even a better match for what I do an endurance bike. However, what got me bike into riding is the exciting feel of a race bike, I'm a sports car fan after all! Not sure I can transpose all of what you said about the Aeroad to the Madone, but when you say that the Tarmac is almost better in most category it gives me food for thoughts. I'll have to try to find a way to test ride both before I take the plunge (hopefully this year). Cheers
Hey thanks for the message 😊
I bought the Aeroad for the same reasons you mention... I like to ride fast (ish) and enjoy pushing myself... For everything I do, the Tarmac is perfect 👌
Definitely try to test a couple of bikes... I've not ridden a Madone, but expect it will be a stiffer ride and it's definitely a fair wedge heavier than something like the Tarmac...
Whatever you buy, enjoy it 😊...
Thanks for the sub 👍
Great review and video as always 👍 try the rovals on the canyon see if that helps at all? I’d do that before spending any further money on cockpits or tyres 🤷♂️ I’m still on 25s on my tcr as the giant wheels are quite narrow. Time to change perhaps lol
Hey Greg, thanks for watching...
Yes, I think swapping out the wheels is a good shout mate. I'm going to give that a go before I ride it next. 👍
@@daveridesagain health to enjoy them both 👍👍
Canyon being an online only retailer puts me off. Lovely bike but unless you know your stuff it’s a minefield.
I’ve just took ownership of a giant tcr, so different ballpark to these two. Great video though 👍
Yep, online only definitely has some draw backs.... You can't argue with the savings on offer but if you get it wrong that all goes up in smoke....
TCR is a fantastic bike mate, I'm sure you'll enjoy getting the miles in on it this summer 😎
Thanks for watching 👍
Ive been looking for a replacement of my XL TCR and the canyons are really stretched out, unless you look at the endurance range, Look have some reasonable geometry. Also Merida Reacto is about the same as The Giant TCR or Propel
The Canyons are definitely at the extreme end of the geo scale... It's basically full pro spec geo - long and low, whereas alot of other brands have mellowed out there geo slightly, probably to suit regular riders better...
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Tires and wheels can significantly alter the character of a bike. I own a Canyon Aeroad equipped with DT Swiss ARC 1400 wheels (62mm deep), which are simply phenomenal for racing events-these deep aero wheels truly give you the sensation of speed. However, for daily use, I switch to Zipp 303 Firecrest wheels with 28mm tires, and I must say, the Aeroad feels like an entirely different bike. The most noticeable difference lies in the comfort, especially when riding on roads that aren’t in perfect condition. It’s comparable to the comfort of a gravel bike.
Yeah for sure mate - the DA C60's aren't the best wheelset in the world either. I can definitely appreciate that the Aeroad would be a great race bike ( ie, what it was designed for.. ). Its definitely rapid once upto speed! Thanks for watching.
Hello mate.ive just noticed that you dont have any spacers under the tarmac stem.they provide 3.5cm spacers under stem.so if you have a full spacers under the tarmac stem how would hou then compare the hight of the handlebars of the two?i would choose more relaxed geometry
The bar height on the Tarmac is fine mate. I managed to get the Aeroad to a similar height once I understood how it worked. The geo on the Aeroad is definitely more aggressive than the Tarmac though. Thanks for watching.
Interesting watch , 👍out of Interest, if you change your mind about the aeroad-what size is it🤔😂 .
Medium mate...
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@@daveridesagain was hoping you were going to say small - never mind - some good content 👌
@breers33 thanks mate 👊
I loved my Aeroad until the headset started having issues and the chainstay cracked. Canyon gave me a full refund...hoping the new models have fixed the issue. Mine was a '23 model.
Ah sorry to hear that mate... Sounds like you were unlucky and fingers crossed I don't have similar issues 🤞
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I own a 2022 tarmac SL7 s-works and a 2023 trek madone slr gen7...ive road the canyon CFR and the Cervelo S5 ..out of all aero bikes i prefer the trek madone SLR..slightly lighter, design is sick, holds speeds and very very comfortable out of all aero bikes..this year it seems like the trek madone SLR is the underdog...lol...i would love to see the "Trek madone SLR" vs the "Canyon aeroad CFR" vs the "Cervelo S5"...
Hey thanks for the message. The Madone looks great. What’s your thought on the new model which was leaked last week?
@daveridesagain it looks good but I'll wait to see what the test results say...lol..I don't know if it's a madone or an emonda..we will see soon..I like the light climbing bikes because theyre twitchy & nimble...but I love the aero bikes because they hold speed and are very fast top end
always thought you rode a 54 frame size? I'm right on the cusp of 54/56
I've never had a 54 mate, always a 56... At 5'10" I can get away with either, but generally find the geo on a 56 suits that little bit better.
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@@daveridesagain I've had loads of different bike fits and it's always niggled away at me, I'm just over 5ft10, just out of curiosity what's your saddle height? really impressed with the channel now btw 👍
Amazing I got a similar cycling channel
Awesome 👍
6:40 you say the Stack (Headtube) is "much lower" on the Canyon, but when comparing the Geo tables for example in size Medium / 56 it´s only 5mm difference. This is half a spacer!
Hey thanks for the message. It’s a while since I did this one but you just sent me to the garage to double check 🤔. I have both bikes here. The headtube on the SL8 in 56cm is 10mm higher than on the medium Aeroad, so it’s a decent amount. The Aeroad is longer and lower generally, so more aggressive. Maybe that is the ideal set up for the rider looking at this bike though… Thanks for watching 😊
@@daveridesagain Thanks for the real life measurement! That´s interesting, because I read the geo tables of both bikes from the manufacturers websites and the Canyon should be only 5mm lower and identical in reach (how long the frame is compared to the BB). So, this means that there is a difference between theoeretical data and real life data. Interesting, especially when you can´t test ride the bike before because it´s online only like Canyon.
P.S.: You have to meaure the headtube in relation to the bottom braket, not in relation to the ground. Just to be on the safe side if the BBs aren´t at the same location. BB is always the starting point and the saddle and handle bars are in realation to it.
Definitely faster too. Even for an old diesel like me 😂
I tried 30mm for one ride then changed all my bikes to 30mm ..like going from rim to disc .. I wouldn’t go back to skinny tyres ..faster, more comfortable, lower tyre pressures
Exactly mate, you know the craic 👍
Both lovely bikes but as a spesh fan boy s works everytime the 2020 s works venge disc was great could still climb tried canyon once went straight back to S works long geometry on canyons didn’t suit me
I'm with you mate - I never owned a Venge.. Would have loved one!! Hopefully it'll make a comeback one day..
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@@daveridesagain yip I had s works venge disc s works sl6 team bike venge looked the dogs but I prefer my baby venge s works sl7 I’d take a project black sl8 s works FRAMESET or a trinity racing s works sl8 pinky frame 😜
doesn't seem fair that you changed the stock tire sizes for the tarmac but not the aeroad, local bike shop or not.
sworks tarmacs come stock with roval rapide or alpinist.
Hey, thanks for the message.
Canyon claim to have designed the Aeroad around the 25/28mm split tyre set up, so I tested as designed in this instance... I knew the tyres would make a big difference and intend changing on the Aeroad to 30mm... I'll be sure to give an update when I've done this 👍
Thanks for watching.
@@daveridesagain Thanks for the msg. I think I've read also that Specialized claimed to have designed the Tarmac around the stock 26mm tires too? Looking forward to the update. Thanks.
can’t be sure of your results here Dave mate buy me an sl7 and ill report back with my findings
Sounds like a great plan 🤣🤣🤣
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you may want to use a better way to record your voice.