Snow weighs up to 20 lbs/cu ft depending on the moisture content. If you have 2 ft of snow on a 1000 sq ft roof that's an extra 40,000 lbs of weight bearing down That's not an insignificant amount of weight no matter what the building code says.
Just think how wonderfully roaring all the waterfalls will be this year and how resplendent the fields of wildflowers! To say nothing of the ease in our drought situation. Thank you, God! It’s gonna be an awesome summer. And my guess is they’ll ski into August
Welcome to the Sierra Mountains! This is why you see older Sierra homes with doors on the second story. Growing up in CA this was normal over 20 years ago.
This has not been the norm since pre-1900. There are a few comparable big years sprinkled on, but this much snow depth hasn't been seen near these dates since the 50's. And there's about 15 different sources you could use to see that 🤣
@@Rockwood1407 Really? 2017 had more snow in the Tahoe area... but it depends where you measure. But it all depends on where you measure... it may break the records everywhere with the next storm, but these are values right now from the Sugarbowl official website. "Sugar Bowl Resort gets an average annual snowfall of 315" of snow per year." - onthesnow '501" - 673" YTD Snowfall' - sugarbowl So it's 180 to 358 inches above average, but still 100 inches less than the 2017 level. 2017 broke the records. What's 2017-2022? 5 years... California gets a huge snow amount about every 5 years, like I said. "California's Sugar Bowl Ski Resort Closing in on 800 Inches of Snow This Season Brian Donegan Published: April 17, 2017 One ski resort in California's northern Sierra Nevada is closing in on 800 inches of snow in what has become the all-time wettest "water year," there. Through April 16, Sugar Bowl Resort had measured 777 inches of total snow for the 2016-17 season after a couple inches of fresh powder accumulated at the summit Easter Sunday. This is 277 inches above Sugar Bowl's seasonal average of 500 inches." - wunderground All that's happened is people have become really stupid over the past few years for some reason. The problem is that it's snow. One place can measure a lot more then just 10 feet away. So it all depends on where you measure and if you are honest. Ski resorts tend to exaggerate their snowfall to attract more customers. Onthesnow has different data and says that Sugarbowl just broke the recent records by 2 inches. onthesnow california sugar-bowl-resort historical-snowfall Onethesnow says that Squaw Valley just broke the recent record (back to 2012 which isn't very far back) by 6 inches. Squaw Valley/Palisades got 701" in 2016/17 and 656" so far this year. That's 45 more inches in 2016/2017 than this current year (2023) so far. onthesnow california squaw-valley-usa historical-snowfall Onethesnow says that Mammoth hasn't yet broken the 2017 record and is about 10 inches from breaking the 2016/2017 record snowfall at Mammoth. onthesnow california mammoth-mountain-ski-area historical-snowfall As you see it varies by where exactly you measure. But you can see from the 2012 and forward snowfall data that 2016/17 and 2018/19 had huge snowfall that is about the same as this year's or still more snow then in some places. But with the continuing snow, this year will likely break the records, but it's not happened yet and not like what you are describing at all... you are fake news.
In the summer, when it's over 80F and you see snow poles on the side of the road, it's hard to believe snow like this can happen. But I've stood at the top of Sonora Pass at the end of May with the road cut through more than 20 feet of snow too. One of my friends has a cottage at Lake Alpine on 4, now I understand the beams we had to install when he closed up for the winter. They go between fittings on the floor to the top of the front and back walls and the centerline of the ceiling. I think they were about every six feet, it was over 20 years ago. After removing and stowing the deck rails the last task was installing heavy shutters on the doors and windows.California is a place of amazing contrasts.
Your channel just popped up in my feed, and here I am, watching from the Caribbean, where we talk of 'cold nights' and 'sweater and socks weather' when temps dip to around 20C😂😂
I've lived my whole life of 70 years in Northern NY, and I've seen some huge snow storms, mostly lake effect off Lake Ontario. So it takes alot to wow me in this kind of weather, but I was awestruck at how much snow your area has received. Good job clearing that roof! We are getting ours shoveled Monday, but there's only about 8 inches up there right now. We have a metal roof, but because it's a double wide mobile home, it doesn't shed on its own. Stay safe up there!
get 2 guys and a rope. Throw the rope from one end of the roof to the other and "saw" under the snow. Minimal work and it'll slide right off. Search youtube for rope roof clearing.
Folks have forgotten the Sierra do this. It is dry for long periods, and then a couple of years in a row it's like this. They call it global warming, but really, it's just the Sierra's being the Sierras
If it's in the budget, yes, definitely go for a high pitch stand ing seam metal roof! You'll be glad you did. Especially if you plan on staying in the house. Can't shovel like you did when you get older !!!
Even here in Maine .. that’s a crazy amount of snow.. I just keep thinking about the Donner Party.. How any of them survived is a testament to their tenacity!! Brave souls then and today!! Keep digging..
The first thing that caught my eye on the house we bought in the northern Sierra was the standing seam metal roof. We've only had 10% of the snow that has fallen in Mammoth, but I would worry if it didn't slide off from time to time. I don't even mind being suddenly awakened by the thunderous crash in the middle of the night. It's kind of reassuring. Good luck with your battle, there's more on the way.
I second that good luck, we will all be thinking of you. Just Rember this one thing these are the years that more gold moves to where it can be found then any other times!
Wow! The Japanese have some very innovative tools for removing snow from their roofs. There are videos of neighbors on roofs using giant slicing hand shovel thingds and something that looks like a massive wire cheese cutter to remove masses of snow. One of their hand snow cutters has a fabric or plastic show chute attached to direct the snow to the ground.
That system looked like it worked so well. It sliced upwards under the snow and the snow slid off the plastic sheet connected to the slicer. Hope you guys can figure out a better way or even use those ways people mention. With a slop d roof it seems creating a way for the snow to slide off is best way.
I work on the western side of the sierra and have been successful with using a 3/8 Rope! To uncover cars and other objects by breaking the frozen surface tension. It works well with two people using it like an old fashioned two maned hand Saw. Try it out on the lower end of a roof trying not to cut to deep where’d you’d run into the vents. Hopefully this method is useful for you. Best of luck to you!
I’m glad it’s working for everyone here’s another suggestion using any rope tie knots or double up the Rope, The only thing about this method is you have to work fast as it could freeze if left to long better yet try smaller sections.
I’m surprised they haven’t figured a better method then shoveling . I’ve seen videos of the rope method which creates a little avalanche. They did sections at a time, then moved up to another section to pull down. I’d think you’d have to have someone on top to place the rope and push it down under the snow . Then people on the ground pulling the rope which under cuts the snow then it’ll slide off like an avalanche. But these guys are amazing.
Another hint: when you put the metal roof on install ice melters on the edge of the roof and in the downspouts and drip tubes.. itll keep the ice dams from forming on your drip edge and keep your gutters and downspouts clear
If one is building new in a high snowfall area, consider a double roof. In Houghton Michigan this is a standard practice. Basically sheet in a roof then use 2x2’s over the trusses then sheet again. Puts 2x2’s caps at the lower edge of the roof with four 1” holes for ventilation. Also place a venting roof cap to this 2” air space. No ice on the edges, heaters not needed, extra strength.
Yeah, tuely, a serious concern. But, when you calculate it, yir just gonna fall on big..deep...pillow of snow. Just gotta avoid any sharp objects, buried porch rails, etc. When i was ~5 years old, I'd jump off stuff, land in the soft snow. As more snow falls, it starts to compress/pack the bottom snow... it becomes solid and heavy. But that's variable... In my mid teens, I learned advanced skiing techniques and pole vaulting. Cuz, I'm a thrill seeker(personality profile: Type "T"). Plus I love to show off. Hey, don't we all love attention!?. Skiing is great, because you're using GRAVITY to power you. The steeper the slope: the faster you go...more power! To the point that you are "falling" (as if from a cornice, cliff, building, or roof...or aircraft...). Now, you're flying! You are not STANDING on the snow. You are just using it to guide your descent. That's the transition: from standing on something, to flying threw something that can't support your weight...vertically. You're horizontal. There's little weight upon your feet, hence it's easy to control your direction. It's a controlled FALL. And you will feel the effect of adrenaline! What's weird is: it's easy! You just have to kick the fear out of it.
The current codes for new roofs are significantly higher than before. I have designed, repaired, and shovel numerous roofs in Mammoth Lakes over the last 52 years. The support post suffer the most in compression due to the low value of Doug Fir peripendicular to the grain at the top and bottom plates Roof beams and rafters also split longitudinally mid-span due to high bending stresses and horizontal shear. The funny thing is to see 100 year old structures still standing, most of which is due to bridging to the ground.
A maybe helpful hint? Get a small electric (light) snowblower to blow that roof off. Either carry it up the ladder with you or use ropes to haul it up. That's if you have electricity. : - ) I have a 3 horse 2 cycle that I've used for 3 feet of snow. GL
Here in PA we once had three storms in a row that left 3 feet of snow. I took a piece of 2X4 maybe 3 feet long and stapled some poly plastic to it, long enough to reach from the top of the ridge to the bottom edge of the roof. Then I shoveled a path to lay the poly in. It was a simple matter to shovel the snow onto the poly which slid it off the roof in a hurry. Just keep moving the 2X4 along as necessary and you can clean the roof off with less than half the effort.
Wow! Your hard, (Continuous!!), work was very impressive! The guys next door were slow in comparison. Clearly, you're in great physical shape, and have acclimated to altitude. Outstanding work!
You mentioned in one of your other uploads that you needed to take some of those branches and trees down. Would now be a good time with all the snow pack to cushion the fall and not such a long way down?
You need one of those roof shovels they use in Europe. They're huge, about 4 feet across, and they push the snow off the roof. Maybe some store in your area will start stocking them.
Loved the video! I am always amazed how California can get both the largest snow accumulations on the planet and the hottest temperatures😅 And where I live people complain when we get a few centimetres…sorry inches😄 Be safe 🇨🇦🇨🇦
I feel the pain watching . I don’t know about you , but when I’m shovelling the house roof and other buildings, all I’m thinking of is beer beer beer 🍺 Lol
I hope you keep on posting vids even after this season is over. lol. You are very interesting, humorous and very easy to listen too and I'd love to see how things go for you after all that snow is done.
Have you considered the rope method? There’s plenty of snow removal videos on CZcams and I noticed one of the easiest ones is the rope method. You basically throw a rope across the roof from side to side and then put one person on either end, (I’ve even seen some people use small four wheelers), to drag the rope under the snow. When doing it by hand, you have to use a back-and-forth motion kind of like you’re a lumberjack sawing a large tree. Basically the rope saws a large sheet off the top. It breaks it off in a single sheet and it just slides off the roof. It seems to work with all pitched roofs. Alas it will not work on a flat roof.
I second that good luck, we will all be thinking of you. Just Rember this one thing these are the years that more gold moves to where it can be found than any other times!
Get a snow blower up there! Wow! I can’t imagine the stress you all are going through. I would of been worried about a roof collapse. Metal roofs are nice. Glad you all survived the storm.
You might want to trim some of the tree's limbs away from the roof to allow snow to come off the roof easier. Also if you do install metal roofing you should not have trees/branches touching the metal they will scratch it eventually and then start to rust your metal panels. Some of your trees actually should come down they are way too close to your house and could prohibit your snow from coming off the roof even with metal roofing.
Good decision to get that weight off, great job, thanks for the video. You are correct about working the eves. If you notice the melting glacier-like movement at the eves, I start at the eves first since solar melting will cascade down to the lower surfaces and not freeze/dam up. Here in VA once the lower eves are done it seems the roof clears very quickly on its own.
My heart goes out to you all. What a blizzard and now another one coming. Have lots of wood inside, but what happens when chimneys and stove piles are also packed with too much snow, not even counting no power or phone lines. Satire phones must be a must have! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼hope they have power back on for you all. 7 days with no power is a real challenge.
Man I see and feel your struggle, I’m sorry you are up against such a beast ,this will test a man’s fortitude! Things we must do for family and perseverance. Thanks for sharing And like I said I’m 70 but if I wasn’t 3000 miles from you I’d help if I could!🙏🙏🙏
Where I live in Central CA it doesn’t snow. I always wondered what people did when they get a lot of snow. This is crazy. You have to be in shape to do all that shoveling. Wow! That is an amazing amount of snow. Sure is beautiful up there!
Definitely not a place you'd want to retire to. Man, thinking of all of you and hoping you have the strength to keep up with the snow removal. That's an insane amount of work. Be Safe.
I can only imagine! Us naive So Cal family went up 395 Dec 10 to Reno the morning after the first Big Snow Storm when they reopened the 395....thinking they will close the roads if it's that bad! I swear I have PTSD now! Drove my rear wheel drive 2014 CrV with snow chains all the way from mammoth to Reno going no more than 35 MPH! Took 6.5 hours!!! I've heard of a white out before...but now I know what one is and am grateful somehow we made it (father in laws funeral).
I appreciated so much, must have seen someone else do it... When I got a trench dug on the roof to lay a strip of plastic woven with fiberglass strands and laminated between layers, strong stuff... put in the trench top to bottom of the roof and the snow slides effortlessly on down. I first saw it used for dry shacks on the Alaska Pipeline and it withstood 70 MPH winds. Concrete contractors use it alot during inclement weather and gain strength increasing cure time. Check Yellow Pages for bulk rolls (my last was $125 for a 20' × 100' roll though that was a good while ago and of course it's a petroleum product. Building supply outfits often carry it. Check around. Good luck Boy you're fast... Could you do my roof ? Just kidding man.
That is why in the higher elevations you put a 6/12 pitch or greater on the roof and use metal. Well on the good news you'll probably have snow until June. And also more snow is on the forecast. 😁👍
At 72 I can only do a little my front yard and make path to the trash container. That’s it my neighbor helps with a path on the front side walk. We are the only women that does that. I admire how fast you are that is quite a bit of snow. Watch your self don’t hurt yourself. Greetings from southern Colorado.😊
Next year - Invest in two very long electrical wires and place them along the top of your roof. In away that you can get to them easily once the snow has fallen. Now pull the wire under the snow on each side of your house. And wupti - Snow is off your roof.
I think you need a bigger shovel. Put your snowblower on the roof. Way less work. They have small ones now that are the size of weedwackers. great bargin.
Try using a snowblower when snow is less dense with water on the roof top. You never know! Just a thought. Removing snow has to be done by a on-doing-bases, as it falls. Ask me how I know...
Have you tried cutting up the snow into blocks with a saw to move it? That's what people do to move snow when building shelters in alpine camping. Cutting a chunk and pushing it off the roof could be less tiring with snow that thick
Reminds me of the days in West Yellowstone when only a gas station and a restaurant were open, everything else was hidden by the snow depth, year after year in the 50s and 60s.
My family used to own a log cabin in the Cascade Mnts during the 60s and 70s. The snowfall was so heavy some years that the 1-1/2 story cabin would be completely buried by Christmas. We'd have to dig down to get to the porch and also clear the snow from the chimney. I feel your pain.
i live near this area this is not normal to have this much snow, some people are acting like this is normal, no to have over 650 inchs of snow even before the end of march, but keep thinking weather is not getting way worse we are really worried how bad the flooding will be when it gets warm, my house has 15 foot drifts around it i can just walk up one to get on my roof this is far from normal i have lived here for 40 years if this is how winters will be i might move this is not normal
Thanks on giving a look into your situation. For others generally speaking, First I wouldn't go all the way to the shingles, leave buffer so you don't damage the roof. Second, make sure your vents are clear or put extensions on them.
Actually they don't. But in the end this is only making up for the years of drought we've been having and doesn't even account for the groundwater recharge.
There is a way to keep the snow off your roof by putting heating elements or pipes in your roof just like underfloor heating there is even people with heated driveways
Metal roof with pitch is a must!!! I would slant the roof over the garage. This is such an extreme year. You could potentially never see this again or you could see it again within the next 10 years. Lot of uncertainty with weather these days. Dang 9000 feet at home. In colorado ive lived at 7600 and 8200. That extra thousand feet is a big difference
keep the garage as is. add tin roof. add 500$ worth of truss , with vertical support with sway truss support. and think ceiling heater , looped hot water or electric.
I lived in NY State until I retired. In 50's & 60's as a kid I remember snow really deep . Don't miss getting on my roof in the 90's to shovel. At age 70 now I'm glad to be living in a warmer area.
You do have nearly a flat garage roof, with very little pitch. The home roof pitch is there but not much steeper than my home in southern california. I do remember several or more structures in Mammoth Lakes with very steep metal roofs built for very heavy snow. Even making the pictch of building roofs much steeper would help with metal material. It is not as attractive and more expensive to build. However, in heavy snows a steep metal roof will shed snow relieving the extreme stress from a very heavy snow loading.
Yikes! Sounds kinda lame and a little late in the game this time around, but investing in an electric snow shovel might not be a bad idea. They're light enough to carry up the ladder and they actually move a lot of snow. You could clear it in layers and save your poor back. There are lots of videos on YT, an after watching some of them, it might make you want to get one. Thank you for sharing this and please stay safe!
Electric battery operated snow shovel isn't meant for this kind of deep snow it's better to do it by hand then using a shitty ass electric power shovel
@@johnharrison2010 I definitely agree that they aren't made for this situation, they're meant for sidewalks and small areas op to about 6 inches deep. I just got one super cheap, haven't got a chance to use it yet, but it does have some power to it. After watching a bunch of videos on it, I would definitely want to give it a try. They do move the snow and it would save your back and shoulders. Would it take a while? Yup! The snow he has is looking a bit compacted and it probably wouldn't work well in that situation, butf it worked, it would be amazing. Shoveling all of that sucks and I'd be willing to try anything to make it easier. My thoughts when I commented was to have one to use up there before it got that bad. Worse case scenario, it sucks and you return it. Don't know until you try it.
Snow weighs up to 20 lbs/cu ft depending on the moisture content. If you have 2 ft of snow on a 1000 sq ft roof that's an extra 40,000 lbs of weight bearing down That's not an insignificant amount of weight no matter what the building code says.
Had a situation where it snowed so much over night, that when I got up in the morning to go to the bathroom, I could not close the door.
Then when it starts raining on it, big trouble...
Just think how wonderfully roaring all the waterfalls will be this year and how resplendent the fields of wildflowers! To say nothing of the ease in our drought situation. Thank you, God! It’s gonna be an awesome summer. And my guess is they’ll ski into August
Welcome to the Sierra Mountains! This is why you see older Sierra homes with doors on the second story. Growing up in CA this was normal over 20 years ago.
Happens about every 5 years... people are just on social media now so they talk about it more.
A couple years of less snow, clearly doesn't mean it's the new norm. 😂😂😂 climate science is a scam, they can't predict 7 days of weather.
@@VenturaIT lol more like once every 40 years
This has not been the norm since pre-1900. There are a few comparable big years sprinkled on, but this much snow depth hasn't been seen near these dates since the 50's. And there's about 15 different sources you could use to see that 🤣
@@Rockwood1407 Really?
2017 had more snow in the Tahoe area... but it depends where you measure. But it all depends on where you measure... it may break the records everywhere with the next storm, but these are values right now from the Sugarbowl official website.
"Sugar Bowl Resort gets an average annual snowfall of 315" of snow per year." - onthesnow
'501" - 673" YTD Snowfall' - sugarbowl
So it's 180 to 358 inches above average, but still 100 inches less than the 2017 level. 2017 broke the records.
What's 2017-2022? 5 years... California gets a huge snow amount about every 5 years, like I said.
"California's Sugar Bowl Ski Resort Closing in on 800 Inches of Snow This Season
Brian Donegan
Published: April 17, 2017
One ski resort in California's northern Sierra Nevada is closing in on 800 inches of snow in what has become the all-time wettest "water year," there. Through April 16, Sugar Bowl Resort had measured 777 inches of total snow for the 2016-17 season after a couple inches of fresh powder accumulated at the summit Easter Sunday.
This is 277 inches above Sugar Bowl's seasonal average of 500 inches." - wunderground
All that's happened is people have become really stupid over the past few years for some reason.
The problem is that it's snow. One place can measure a lot more then just 10 feet away. So it all depends on where you measure and if you are honest. Ski resorts tend to exaggerate their snowfall to attract more customers.
Onthesnow has different data and says that Sugarbowl just broke the recent records by 2 inches.
onthesnow california sugar-bowl-resort historical-snowfall
Onethesnow says that Squaw Valley just broke the recent record (back to 2012 which isn't very far back) by 6 inches.
Squaw Valley/Palisades got 701" in 2016/17 and 656" so far this year. That's 45 more inches in 2016/2017 than this current year (2023) so far.
onthesnow california squaw-valley-usa historical-snowfall
Onethesnow says that Mammoth hasn't yet broken the 2017 record and is about 10 inches from breaking the 2016/2017 record snowfall at Mammoth.
onthesnow california mammoth-mountain-ski-area historical-snowfall
As you see it varies by where exactly you measure. But you can see from the 2012 and forward snowfall data that 2016/17 and 2018/19 had huge snowfall that is about the same as this year's or still more snow then in some places.
But with the continuing snow, this year will likely break the records, but it's not happened yet and not like what you are describing at all... you are fake news.
In the summer, when it's over 80F and you see snow poles on the side of the road, it's hard to believe snow like this can happen. But I've stood at the top of Sonora Pass at the end of May with the road cut through more than 20 feet of snow too. One of my friends has a cottage at Lake Alpine on 4, now I understand the beams we had to install when he closed up for the winter. They go between fittings on the floor to the top of the front and back walls and the centerline of the ceiling. I think they were about every six feet, it was over 20 years ago. After removing and stowing the deck rails the last task was installing heavy shutters on the doors and windows.California is a place of amazing contrasts.
And sadly a lot of people with more money than brains. 🙄🙄
Grew up in California and now reside in South Dakota. Roof rakes are amazing and they make the process easier
@@gailhasler8435 well aren't you a sweetheart !!
Biggest winter since 83. Pretty good chance it's about double anything you've ever seen at this point.
You gotta be in good shape living up there! Sure is beautiful. So glad you and your family are healthy and safe.
Or you will become in better shape during a winter like this.
Your channel just popped up in my feed, and here I am, watching from the Caribbean, where we talk of 'cold nights' and 'sweater and socks weather' when temps dip to around 20C😂😂
I've lived my whole life of 70 years in Northern NY, and I've seen some huge snow storms, mostly lake effect off Lake Ontario. So it takes alot to wow me in this kind of weather, but I was awestruck at how much snow your area has received. Good job clearing that roof! We are getting ours shoveled Monday, but there's only about 8 inches up there right now. We have a metal roof, but because it's a double wide mobile home, it doesn't shed on its own. Stay safe up there!
get 2 guys and a rope. Throw the rope from one end of the roof to the other and "saw" under the snow. Minimal work and it'll slide right off. Search youtube for rope roof clearing.
Folks have forgotten the Sierra do this. It is dry for long periods, and then a couple of years in a row it's like this. They call it global warming, but really, it's just the Sierra's being the Sierras
I lived in western NY State & had to get my roof to get snow off in Feb or March storms. Was not fun . I Moved to a warm climate when retired . :)
If it's in the budget, yes, definitely go for a high pitch stand ing seam metal roof! You'll be glad you did. Especially if you plan on staying in the house. Can't shovel like you did when you get older !!!
Even here in Maine .. that’s a crazy amount of snow.. I just keep thinking about the Donner Party.. How any of them survived is a testament to their tenacity!! Brave souls then and today!! Keep digging..
thats reminds me….time for a run to InNOut Burger
The first thing that caught my eye on the house we bought in the northern Sierra was the standing seam metal roof. We've only had 10% of the snow that has fallen in Mammoth, but I would worry if it didn't slide off from time to time. I don't even mind being suddenly awakened by the thunderous crash in the middle of the night. It's kind of reassuring. Good luck with your battle, there's more on the way.
I second that good luck, we will all be thinking of you. Just Rember this one thing these are the years that more gold moves to where it can be found then any other times!
Wow! The Japanese have some very innovative tools for removing snow from their roofs. There are videos of neighbors on roofs using giant slicing hand shovel thingds and something that looks like a massive wire cheese cutter to remove masses of snow. One of their hand snow cutters has a fabric or plastic show chute attached to direct the snow to the ground.
This in California
That system looked like it worked so well. It sliced upwards under the snow and the snow slid off the plastic sheet connected to the slicer. Hope you guys can figure out a better way or even use those ways people mention. With a slop d roof it seems creating a way for the snow to slide off is best way.
I work on the western side of the sierra and have been successful with using a 3/8 Rope!
To uncover cars and other objects by breaking the frozen surface tension.
It works well with two people using it like an old fashioned two maned hand Saw.
Try it out on the lower end of a roof trying not to cut to deep where’d you’d run into the vents.
Hopefully this method is useful for you.
Best of luck to you!
Definitely...this shoveling is way too long. The rope you can do in sections at a time. Also boards up against tires and tarped car..works great 👍👍
I’m glad it’s working for everyone here’s another suggestion using any rope tie knots or double up the Rope,
The only thing about this method is you have to work fast as it could freeze if left to long better yet try smaller sections.
I’m surprised they haven’t figured a better method then shoveling . I’ve seen videos of the rope method which creates a little avalanche. They did sections at a time, then moved up to another section to pull down. I’d think you’d have to have someone on top to place the rope and push it down under the snow . Then people on the ground pulling the rope which under cuts the snow then it’ll slide off like an avalanche.
But these guys are amazing.
We used ropes like that when I lived in West Yellowstone. Gets deep there every winter.
Another hint: when you put the metal roof on install ice melters on the edge of the roof and in the downspouts and drip tubes.. itll keep the ice dams from forming on your drip edge and keep your gutters and downspouts clear
That's awesome. You need that if you live by n the higher elevations!!
If one is building new in a high snowfall area, consider a double roof. In Houghton Michigan this is a standard practice. Basically sheet in a roof then use 2x2’s over the trusses then sheet again. Puts 2x2’s caps at the lower edge of the roof with four 1” holes for ventilation. Also place a venting roof cap to this 2” air space. No ice on the edges, heaters not needed, extra strength.
🤣 gutters😂mtn houses don’t have gutters bud. And if they did they’re gone now 😂
@@KWAHU93 I used to housepaint in Montana, 5, 6, 7,000 ft. They all had gutters.
@@srvntlilly that’s because u don’t get 6 feet in a storm there
U had my heart racing when u were climbing the roof ALONE ! Thank goodness those guys were close by incase u fell off that ladder ! Be safe 😊
😂😂if he fell off the roof he would land in deep snow so probably no harm if he could dig out!
Yeah, tuely, a serious concern. But, when you calculate it, yir just gonna fall on big..deep...pillow of snow. Just gotta avoid any sharp objects, buried porch rails, etc. When i was ~5 years old, I'd jump off stuff, land in the soft snow. As more snow falls, it starts to compress/pack the bottom snow... it becomes solid and heavy. But that's variable... In my mid teens, I learned advanced skiing techniques and pole vaulting. Cuz, I'm a thrill seeker(personality profile: Type "T"). Plus I love to show off. Hey, don't we all love attention!?. Skiing is great, because you're using GRAVITY to power you. The steeper the slope: the faster you go...more power! To the point that you are "falling" (as if from a cornice, cliff, building, or roof...or aircraft...). Now, you're flying! You are not STANDING on the snow. You are just using it to guide your descent. That's the transition: from standing on something, to flying threw something that can't support your weight...vertically. You're horizontal. There's little weight upon your feet, hence it's easy to control your direction. It's a controlled FALL. And you will feel the effect of adrenaline! What's weird is: it's easy! You just have to kick the fear out of it.
You can jump off roofs if the snow on the ground is 3ft or more, it’s like landing on a pillow
The current codes for new roofs are significantly higher than before. I have designed, repaired, and shovel numerous roofs in Mammoth Lakes over the last 52 years. The support post suffer the most in compression due to the low value of Doug Fir peripendicular to the grain at the top and bottom plates Roof beams and rafters also split longitudinally mid-span due to high bending stresses and horizontal shear. The funny thing is to see 100 year old structures still standing, most of which is due to bridging to the ground.
Praying that your family will be safe during this mad snowfall!!
It’s a lot of hard work shoving that snow on the roof
You did a good job 👏
Take good care of yourselves out there 🙏🙏🙏
A maybe helpful hint? Get a small electric (light) snowblower to blow that roof off. Either carry it up the ladder with you or use ropes to haul it up. That's if you have electricity. : - ) I have a 3 horse 2 cycle that I've used for 3 feet of snow. GL
My son did that here in Truckee in the 80’s. Worked great. Today we have hired diggers at $65 ph.
Here in PA we once had three storms in a row that left 3 feet of snow. I took a piece of 2X4 maybe 3 feet long and stapled some poly plastic to it, long enough to reach from the top of the ridge to the bottom edge of the roof. Then I shoveled a path to lay the poly in. It was a simple matter to shovel the snow onto the poly which slid it off the roof in a hurry. Just keep moving the 2X4 along as necessary and you can clean the roof off with less than half the effort.
That was clever,
Smart!!!
Good idea
I'll go one better...that's a BRILLIANT idea, IRW! Kudos! 👏
@@rustysteel8714 Always gotta go one better, eh! 😄
You're lucky you're in shape I can't see a 65-year-old guy doing this by himself He'd drop dead.
That is some Widowmaker snow
The ridge is the top of the roof. The "eve" is on the edge...
global warming
Yep, the eave is the edge.
I suspect there is a lot of structural damage to homes in the high Sierra.
I've seen some videos of people clearing roofs over in Europe such as Switzerland which they have unique tools and techniques that they use.
Wow! Your hard, (Continuous!!), work was very impressive! The guys next door were slow in comparison. Clearly, you're in great physical shape, and have acclimated to altitude. Outstanding work!
You mentioned in one of your other uploads that you needed to take some of those branches and trees down. Would now be a good time with all the snow pack to cushion the fall and not such a long way down?
I don’t know how all that snow is going to be able to melt off before next winter! Stay safe!!! Cool Video’s!!!
You need one of those roof shovels they use in Europe. They're huge, about 4 feet across, and they push the snow off the roof. Maybe some store in your area will start stocking them.
Loved the video! I am always amazed how California can get both the largest snow accumulations on the planet and the hottest temperatures😅
And where I live people complain when we get a few centimetres…sorry inches😄
Be safe 🇨🇦🇨🇦
Wishing you ease and safety in dealing with all the snow!!
Be careful sending prayers 🙏
Beautiful. Done some roof shoveling in Mammoth it's *slow* job.
I feel the pain watching . I don’t know about you , but when I’m shovelling the house roof and other buildings, all I’m thinking of is beer beer beer 🍺 Lol
Wow, this is crazy. Wishing you safety and some sunshine .
I hope you keep on posting vids even after this season is over. lol. You are very interesting, humorous and very easy to listen too and I'd love to see how things go for you after all that snow is done.
Imagining a lot of structures and vehicles damaged due to the weight.
Have you considered the rope method? There’s plenty of snow removal videos on CZcams and I noticed one of the easiest ones is the rope method. You basically throw a rope across the roof from side to side and then put one person on either end, (I’ve even seen some people use small four wheelers), to drag the rope under the snow. When doing it by hand, you have to use a back-and-forth motion kind of like you’re a lumberjack sawing a large tree. Basically the rope saws a large sheet off the top. It breaks it off in a single sheet and it just slides off the roof. It seems to work with all pitched roofs. Alas it will not work on a flat roof.
I second that good luck, we will all be thinking of you. Just Rember this one thing these are the years that more gold moves to where it can be found than any other times!
Get a snow blower up there! Wow! I can’t imagine the stress you all are going through. I would of been worried about a roof collapse. Metal roofs are nice. Glad you all survived the storm.
Yea that's cool. I also think pushing snow is easier then shoveling 👍👍
You might want to trim some of the tree's limbs away from the roof to allow snow to come off the roof easier. Also if you do install metal roofing you should not have trees/branches touching the metal they will scratch it eventually and then start to rust your metal panels. Some of your trees actually should come down they are way too close to your house and could prohibit your snow from coming off the roof even with metal roofing.
Good decision to get that weight off, great job, thanks for the video. You are correct about working the eves. If you notice the melting glacier-like movement at the eves, I start at the eves first since solar melting will cascade down to the lower surfaces and not freeze/dam up. Here in VA once the lower eves are done it seems the roof clears very quickly on its own.
I have lived in the Mountains of the Sierra Nevadas in Northern California! I am thinking about you all and Hoping all the best for everyone involved!
My heart goes out to you all. What a blizzard and now another one coming. Have lots of wood inside, but what happens when chimneys and stove piles are also packed with too much snow, not even counting no power or phone lines. Satire phones must be a must have! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼hope they have power back on for you all. 7 days with no power is a real challenge.
GREAT WORKOUT 💪 NOT 4 THE CITY SLICKERS! NICE VID 👍 TQ
I wonder how hooking up a rope line hooked to a winch would work getting under the snow and pulling the whole thing off in one big slide!
It works great or 2 man and you saw back and forth with the rope..big sections can slide off 👍👍👍
Praying for warm weather soon. That is a lot of work especially with you doing it by yourself on the roof. Looks like heavy snow.
I feel for your community. Please be careful up on your roof.
if they fall off the roof, what does that mean? a 2 ft drop to a giant bed of soft snow?
Man I see and feel your struggle,
I’m sorry you are up against such a beast ,this will test a man’s fortitude!
Things we must do for family and perseverance.
Thanks for sharing
And like I said I’m 70 but if I wasn’t 3000 miles from you I’d help if I could!🙏🙏🙏
Amazing, hard to believe if you didn't see it. Hope all goes well, watching from Australia 🇦🇺
Where I live in Central CA it doesn’t snow. I always wondered what people did when they get a lot of snow.
This is crazy. You have to be in shape to do all that shoveling. Wow! That is an amazing amount of snow. Sure is beautiful up there!
Definitely not a place you'd want to retire to. Man, thinking of all of you and hoping you have the strength to keep up with the snow removal. That's an insane amount of work. Be Safe.
I can only imagine! Us naive So Cal family went up 395 Dec 10 to Reno the morning after the first Big Snow Storm when they reopened the 395....thinking they will close the roads if it's that bad! I swear I have PTSD now! Drove my rear wheel drive 2014 CrV with snow chains all the way from mammoth to Reno going no more than 35 MPH! Took 6.5 hours!!! I've heard of a white out before...but now I know what one is and am grateful somehow we made it (father in laws funeral).
WOW - it's so unreal to see homes BURIED. Kind of scary as well.
Thank you for sharing praying all is well
I’ve seen extreme snow before, but not like this! Best of luck to all of you and please be careful!
I am exhausted after watching this!
Seriously, I hope this will help with your drought situation.
Yes, drought is over.
Looks so overwhelming!
Wow, that is SO much heavy, long, tiring Work!! Excellent job.. I bet you slept well that night. That is a Crazy amount of snow.
Unbelievable amount of snow !! Stay safe everyone….
Wow u guys got tenderized and being a Canadian I must say you guys do everything bigger than Canada,, wow. Best of luck to our friends to the south.
God bless everyone 🙂🙏🕊️💗
I appreciated so much, must have seen someone else do it... When I got a trench dug on the roof to lay a strip of plastic woven with fiberglass strands and laminated between layers, strong stuff... put in the trench top to bottom of the roof and the snow slides effortlessly on down.
I first saw it used for dry shacks on the Alaska Pipeline and it withstood 70 MPH winds. Concrete contractors use it alot during inclement weather and gain strength increasing cure time.
Check Yellow Pages for bulk rolls (my last was $125 for a 20' × 100' roll though that was a good while ago and of course it's a petroleum product. Building supply outfits often carry it. Check around.
Good luck
Boy you're fast... Could you do my roof ? Just kidding man.
That is why in the higher elevations you put a 6/12 pitch or greater on the roof and use metal.
Well on the good news you'll probably have snow until June.
And also more snow is on the forecast. 😁👍
We’ll be skiing come July 4th for sure !
This why people have steep metal roofs in a lot of places ..so the deep snow will just slide off , saves a lot of work ..
I wish it would snow like this in Big Bear. Cool shots bro
Wow, it never occurred to me, that getting on roof and shoveling snow was a thing
At 72 I can only do a little my front yard and make path to the trash container. That’s it my neighbor helps with a path on the front side walk. We are the only women that does that. I admire how fast you are that is quite a bit of snow. Watch your self don’t hurt yourself. Greetings from southern Colorado.😊
Meeting your neighbors in the heavens!
It's nice to see the rooftop. Stay safe!
Metal roofs on homes, in mountain communities, are your friend.
A large fish net on top of roof tops should be placed on homes where it snows, so when the sun comes out, it should be able to pull it down easy.
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It'll be a year-round ski season this year!!!
Next year - Invest in two very long electrical wires and place them along the top of your roof. In away that you can get to them easily once the snow has fallen. Now pull the wire under the snow on each side of your house. And wupti - Snow is off your roof.
Stay safe all effected we live in N Idaho...mild snow year..this is epic! Hoping it's natural and not HAARP .. we are with you in spirit!
So glad to see you are getting the much needed moisture.
The main problem I see is that there is no place to put the snow.
Needs to be a machine that compacts snow into large and stackable snow bricks to form snow walls to help keep weight off sides of houses.
I think you need a bigger shovel. Put your snowblower on the roof. Way less work. They have small ones now that are the size of weedwackers. great bargin.
Try using a snowblower when snow is less dense with water on the roof top. You never know! Just a thought. Removing snow has to be done by a on-doing-bases, as it falls. Ask me how I know...
Thats a lot of hard work!!
Thanks for the video.
I live at the north end of the Sierra and know what this is all about.
I would bring a HD tarp roll it out and pin it with snow. Now the snow will slide off the roof instead of having to shovel it again!😎
Tarping cars is great too 👍👍
Have you tried cutting up the snow into blocks with a saw to move it? That's what people do to move snow when building shelters in alpine camping. Cutting a chunk and pushing it off the roof could be less tiring with snow that thick
Reminds me of the days in West Yellowstone when only a gas station and a restaurant were open, everything else was hidden by the snow depth, year after year in the 50s and 60s.
Tip: Use the Fiskar Tree Pruning with extended handel. It will slice thru the snow and make it easier to remove. Especially for the overhang
My family used to own a log cabin in the Cascade Mnts during the 60s and 70s. The snowfall was so heavy some years that the 1-1/2 story cabin would be completely buried by Christmas. We'd have to dig down to get to the porch and also clear the snow from the chimney. I feel your pain.
Sunday 3/5/23 first chair on Red Dog! Just burrowing through the powder.
i live near this area this is not normal to have this much snow, some people are acting like this is normal, no to have over 650 inchs of snow even before the end of march, but keep thinking weather is not getting way worse we are really worried how bad the flooding will be when it gets warm, my house has 15 foot drifts around it i can just walk up one to get on my roof this is far from normal i have lived here for 40 years if this is how winters will be i might move this is not normal
Thanks on giving a look into your situation. For others generally speaking, First I wouldn't go all the way to the shingles, leave buffer so you don't damage the roof. Second, make sure your vents are clear or put extensions on them.
Roomba should invent a roving snow shedding robot
Two more feet expected over next couple of days per weather report for N. Sierras! Tough work! Be careful!
And California water officials (DWR) insist CA is still in a drought!🤣
Not anymore.
Actually they don't. But in the end this is only making up for the years of drought we've been having and doesn't even account for the groundwater recharge.
There is a way to keep the snow off your roof by putting heating elements or pipes in your roof just like underfloor heating there is even people with heated driveways
Water Pipes in roof can freeze & break. Then big water damage below. Lived in place where that design... was a disaster.
Shows what u know Einstein 😂
Metal roof with pitch is a must!!! I would slant the roof over the garage. This is such an extreme year. You could potentially never see this again or you could see it again within the next 10 years. Lot of uncertainty with weather these days. Dang 9000 feet at home. In colorado ive lived at 7600 and 8200. That extra thousand feet is a big difference
Yah that shingle roof 😂 cringe for snow like this
keep the garage as is. add tin roof. add 500$ worth of truss , with vertical support with sway truss support. and think ceiling heater , looped hot water or electric.
Wow. So beautiful.
Just watching you makes me feel exhausted. Ppl underestimate shoveling snow at a higher altitude is REALLY hard work.
Sounds like it’s heavy snow. I grew up in NY and remember light fluffy snow then sometimes heavy snow.
I lived in NY State until I retired. In 50's & 60's as a kid I remember snow really deep . Don't miss getting on my roof in the 90's to shovel. At age 70 now I'm glad to be living in a warmer area.
You do have nearly a flat garage roof, with very little pitch. The home roof pitch is there but not much steeper than my home in southern california.
I do remember several or more structures in Mammoth Lakes with very steep metal roofs built for very heavy snow.
Even making the pictch of building roofs much steeper would help with metal material. It is not as attractive and more expensive to build.
However, in heavy snows a steep metal roof will shed snow relieving the extreme stress from a very heavy snow loading.
I'm sidelined with a bad flu. Your video was strangely enjoyable to watch.
Yikes! Sounds kinda lame and a little late in the game this time around, but investing in an electric snow shovel might not be a bad idea. They're light enough to carry up the ladder and they actually move a lot of snow. You could clear it in layers and save your poor back. There are lots of videos on YT, an after watching some of them, it might make you want to get one. Thank you for sharing this and please stay safe!
Are you fucking serious electric snow shovel 😂. This is close to three feet or more of snow that bullshit only works for a few measly inches lol.
Electric battery operated snow shovel isn't meant for this kind of deep snow it's better to do it by hand then using a shitty ass electric power shovel
@@johnharrison2010 I definitely agree that they aren't made for this situation, they're meant for sidewalks and small areas op to about 6 inches deep. I just got one super cheap, haven't got a chance to use it yet, but it does have some power to it. After watching a bunch of videos on it, I would definitely want to give it a try. They do move the snow and it would save your back and shoulders. Would it take a while? Yup! The snow he has is looking a bit compacted and it probably wouldn't work well in that situation, butf it worked, it would be amazing. Shoveling all of that sucks and I'd be willing to try anything to make it easier. My thoughts when I commented was to have one to use up there before it got that bad. Worse case scenario, it sucks and you return it. Don't know until you try it.
Tragic as it is, probably the best natural disasters to have beautiful too.
Moving Sierra cement from one pile to another is exhausting lookin. 😊