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1:17 WATCHING THE CHEATER
8:07 OUR GAME
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Very hard to follow, who is who here? Too much snickering and sarcastic comments.
Pin of shame
And either this is a sarcastic comment or this is pin of shame
I mean he's literally talking about his moves while moving his pieces. It's fine if you actually pay attention.
Was this a difficult video for you to follow?
Shut up
LOL, the cheater loss to another guy with 2300 rating and almost 100% accuracy lmao, it would be fun to review that match also
it's a loss bc he got banned while playing the match
its just 10 moves, he probably got banned mid-game
I too have a close to 100 accuracy in matches that only last 10 moves and we play the best theory. That is not worth analaysing
@@randompersondontmindme While true, the other account was also a cheater that got banned the next game. It's like the engine paired them to test if they were cheaters.
that account also got banned for cheating.
Watching cheaters getting banned might be one of the most satisfying things about chess
So true And playing them is the most frustrating thing In chess
Idk bout that statement, they can just make a new account
After an accidental stalemate from you opponents
i rather watch them being hanged.
It would be 10x more satisfying if people just didnt cheat in the first place
I think it's unacceptable that cheaters are able to regularly run up to the mid 2000s before they're caught. The detection is inadequate.
Cool. Propose a solution.
@@danielhricmail Automatically warn people who are playing consistently above 95 percent accuracy in over 97 percent of their games against people near their rating. You might need to implement a system so GM’s or IM’s don’t get auto warned
@@shangjiang3320 if u consistantly win games then youll be 2000 before they ban you
@@shangjiang3320 that doesnt work? The only reason why they have to wait so long until they get caught is because they need to gather information and proof that they are cheating first not to mention you can start at 1800 and being a new player you get hundreds of elo. Your solutions also make new player get warned
@@danielhricmail Solution is upon the cheater being discovered, change all the cheater's games that were wins & draws to losses. In addition any new user names that are set up & are similar to existing names, in particular, banned names are checked against the isp & if shown to be from the same isp are also banned & blocked.
I dont understand why you need to cheat in chess.
Its not like you will win anything if you cheat
if you are just going to embarrassed in front of millions of chess fans around
the world by IMs and GMs
Same reason as to why people cheat in video games, if there is a ranking system people will always want to achieve the highest through any means and cheaters are just a byproduct of that mechanic. Just report them and they will get banned.
@@lep3984I think it is an inferiority complex. They are incapable of achieving anything (chess, games, etc) so they cheat to get when they believe they deserve, but can't get due to the "unfairness" of other's skill. Usually comes with excuses of "being too busy" or "no lifing"as too why they can't improve themselves over others, so they decide to take a shortcut. It's so pathetic, but will always exist as long as people are envious of others and vain enough to cheat to get what they want.
@@Theeater126 chill out, it's literally a game, it's not that deep
@@Theeater126 This is accurate. I remember seeing a video of a guy cheating in COD (aimbot) and he legitimately believed he was good at the game. That the cheat wasn't doing much and it was mostly his skill.
Then I see a video like this... the person definitely believes they'd make all these moves anyway, so why not just use stockfish? Save them the time of thinking?
@@lep3984 the funny thing is atleast video games have the potential to earn you a lot of money through super leagues, streaming etc. And being more skilled increases the appeal. Chess is neither that big nor does skill give an extra appeal to a streamer imho.
I think it's actually fun to see strong players versus stockfish... It shows how human and machine play in completely different ways... xD
This. I would definitely watch Super GM's playing against engines and then trying to figure out what Stockfish or Leela are planning.
@@hermaeusmora424 Hikaru played against Komodo starting up two pawns. Worth watching
He also played a rapid match against Komodo with no odds got 10-0 adopted
Levy should officially be the Chris Hansen of Chess
To Catch a ...
Why don’t you take a seat right over there?
Beat me to it
I feel like Stockfish cheating in particular while it should be eradicated has an element of pitiability. If you were the rating you were playing everyone would know you so bolstering your ego with the most script-kiddie of all hacks can't be all that rewarding. I think my best rating ever was under 1800 but even back in the day I would have been depressed doing this. Nowadays, it's almost a sign of mental illness.
Except he is not a pedophillic attention whore with cheap manufactured thrills
I missed the cheater content, so I am glad that it is back! Thanks Gotham!
Cheater content is da best ngl
Thanks to that cheater 😅
I read this as "I missed the chess content"
Same!
Levy: "Not a cheater, they lose more than they win. "
Me: scratching my head wondering how do I get to be 2300+ by losing most of my games.
I believe the rating of the players influence how much elo do you gain or lose
You start losing when you hit the wall
You can take a ton of Ls when you first start, drop down to 200 elo and slowly climb up
Maybe by being 2650 to start, like I was about 20 years ago online.
You climb the ladder with a lot of wins because you're playing against people with lower ratings than your 'real' rating. Then you start playing people of your own ratings and get mixed results + some tournaments and stuff against higher rated people. So your winrate can be anything
I still think the better solution when a cheater is identified is to just always pair them with other cheaters. As demonstrated here, if they are banned they will just make another account. Better to just let their computer play another cheater’s computer and keep humans out of it.
But then they can create another account to play against humans. But yeah, your idea is better.
@@alvarohigino The Idea is that they don't know xD
lmao just making the engines smarter, like a strain of super chess bacteria
but that does not really work because they can play tournaments. You would have to create special cheater tournaments, hide normal tournaments from them, and hide cheater tournaments from other players.
Man, it would be actually interesting to see computers play between them
Can we appreciate the beauty of Stockfish in this game?
Like a python that is slowly strangling you to death, cutting off every move and then mating you like it's nothing
Stockfish is absolutely ruthless AND classy. It's absurd
The funniest part was at the end...Stellarkiller beat him with 98.8% in his final game. Cheated by a cheater before getting banned......
UPDATE: StellarKiller was banned as well LOL
2nd UPDATE: The guy who beat StellarKiller in his last game (MarciFeinhu - 2368) is most likely a cheater too. Look at the guys record. Gotham....get on it
lmfaooo
CHEATFICATION
@@trollsenpai4174 CHEATCEPTION
got banned 10 seconds ago. UncleJambit who beat him is also most likely a cheater
What are they, breadcrumbs?
They really need to IP ban these guys. Spamming accounts like that just to mess with people should not be allowed...
Yeah. Now they just create ErionAlbaniaaa and play some more. If we can even consider this engine-assisted stuff "playing".
Except...no
IPv4 is running out
And many people are using DSL or cellular 4.5 or 5G which is not a static IP
That will cause problems
@@lammatt At the end everything is bypassable
ip ban them? i live in nz every ip is dynamic so resetting your router would give you a new ip every time how would an ip ban help here?
IP + hardware ban. Let them work for it if they want to continue... Although I still fail to see the appeal of cheating in online chess
You know what would be a really funny idea? If someone is caught cheating, instead of immediately letting them know they're banned, just let them continue playing but let the opponents know they are about to play against a known cheater and that, for that reason, the best computer moves will be given to the opponent without the cheater knowing. Alternatively, they could automatically pair cheater vs. cheater.
Yeah a cheater hell would work pretty well at at least delaying cheaters from making a new account. I’m pretty sure the game Fall Guys did something similar and it helped them stop the cheating problem a little but
It doesn't even matter if you get banned. They send you an email inviting you to make another account.
@@lukalehtonen5987 Ok buddy
@@cly_ incel
wtf happened in the reply section
@@moonl1314 nothing much
Yea lol
Chess is dead
Chess hasn't been updated in almost 200 years and it's obvious the devs have abandoned it. The greedy creators took your money and laughed all the way to the bank.
I remember back in 705 AD when chess was fun. Then they started adding stupid features no one wanted like "Castling" and "En Passant" instead of listening to player feedback and fixing game-breaking bugs. I've been complaining for YEARS about the collision-detection glitch with the horsey. The "clipping-thru-pieces" bug has been abused to death and the lazy devs refuse to fix it.
Don't support this awful behaviour and boycott this company.
Lmao
They also added the pawn capturing diagonally, it was such a depression and we all hated it.
I also remember when they added the bishop and rook in like 600 AD or something I forgot
But like seriously they do need to fix the bugs that have been going on, especially the "clipping-thru-pieces" bug.
Also you forgot to mention the bugged bishop that could go to different-colored squares
Also they add OP queens
Need to NERF queens
you know what, were so lucky chess isnt owned by anybody, imagine if itd be owned by a company creating a monopoly on it. it belongs to everybody who wants to. imagine if wed all work not against each other but for each other, world would be pretty nice.
I know this is old but you have to remember, the engine is planning the moves ahead but makes adjustments every time you move a piece. So that's part of why it's so hard to pin down what it will do. Then you have the person controlling the pieces sometimes deciding not to do the best move. So you could've been right when guessing but too many variables.
Once someone messaged me saying they would be reporting me for cheating, on a game where I blundered my queen TWO TIMES!!!
@Dany V. A. Because of the report or because of the hanged queen?
@@cpt.bigbeautiful7613 Hanged queen, obviously. Disgraceful.
/s
lol
Of course. Clearly you were trying to appear as not a cheater by blundering your queen twice. I also am a big practitioner of the unintended Botez Gambit.
Even though Filaret is making some wacky moves, and it can be funny to watch at times; they are by FAR a better player than the person across from them, just based on the fact alone they are not a cheater. Good on them.
Me: plays solid, defends everything and waits for attack .... is it knight back or some absurd rooklift or like an exchange sac??
Le Stockfish: *sacs the FULL knight*
Missed this series!! Thanks levy!
Levy giving chess tips as the delivery guy to cheaters should be the thumbnail for the next chess cheater video.
Appreciate the content Levy
19:48 Notice that he lost his game after Levy after just 10 moves while playing at 94.3% accuracy (while his opponent is at 98,8%, which is plausible at that level after being 10 moves in but okay). Makes me think he got banned half way in a game.
That is ABSOLUTELY *quack*. As a TF2 bonus ducks enthusiast this is the best way to incorporate ducks.
Man work has gotten so crazy my only free hour is the one I have before bed and this is the best way to spend it. Keep doing what you're doing. We love you
Another high quality and entertaining video by Levy. To Levy: I appreciate your recaps and I watch them in the dining hall at my college every day.
Its levy not levi
Lol he edited it lmao
@@arnavagrawal895 thanks for clarification; I just fixed it to spell Levy’s name in the correct way
@@COBRA-rq1ig I edited my post to fix the spelling of Levy’s name; what is the issue?
No problem
Sometimes I wonder how miserable these Cheaters would be to cheat in a game of Wit and Intelligence. I can't imagine one having satisfaction after winning through cheating, this is beyond me. Anyways Levy is an awesome content creator. 👍👌
@Dany V. A. You are obviously a cheater...
@@oluwalekeoyedeji444 sigh
Probably just some computer science major who doing work on algorithm and machine learning.
It's not a big deal except for the players who are way too invested in internet chess scores
@@lammatt not even a big deal for them either because they just get their ratings back after the player is banned
They are troll getting enjoyment from destroying others
The guy banned all the ppl who had crushed him, and finds himself with zero viewer now.
It's been so long since a vid like this thank you!
I LOVE THESE!!!
Good job on the narration too
i missed this series. i love seeing chess Cheaters fall, lol
Every chess cheater video is always a joy to watch!! Keep up the good work! 👍
The guy woke up and chose Cheating.
Cheaters suck, but when you aren't cheating, being called a cheater/hacker is the best compliment you can recieve. I've played a lot of chess matches where I'm not even playing my absolute best and guys will message me "Ur cheating bro I'm reporting U" and I'm like " 😂 Okay bro you're just bad, no one needs to cheat to beat you. Thanks for the compliment
19:45 cheater lost his last game to someone with 98.8 accuracy in 10 moves, lol. Cheater vs Cheater final battel??
Actually it's not hard to have 98.8 accuracy for 10 moves. If you know the main line of an opening, 6-7 moves are generally book moves and then it's like 3-4 best moves and you can have high accuracy if the game ends there because of a forfeit due to banned account.
As an Albanian, I feel very ashamed of this dude being so desperate to cheat and coming back with multiple accounts just to get banned over and over again...
Why? Lol it’s not like it says something about your country. Probably some kid being stupid online
No need to be ashamed of. Cheaters are universal, be it in chess or in governments.
I know but this guy was so desperate to cheat smh. Making multiple accounts just for that
He is a cheater. He definitely can't use his actual nationality. I don't think he's Albanian at all.
@@michaelsaili1384 unfortunately the name is Albanian and he keeps using Albania in his name all the time and the Albanian flag, so I think he checks in as an Albanian
6:55 to be fair, Rc1 is quite logical since it's trying to deflect the queen from protecting against Qf3#
Omg this series is back again! Its the first thing that got me in your channel! Absolutely love this!
Cheating in chess is so easy though since you can open another tab and play against a 10000000 rated or whatever bot and just copy the moves
I always wondered what online cheaters get out of winning? It would make sense if they were getting money or something, but as far as I can tell, the only reason they cheat is to have a Delusional inflated sense of self, or to "beat" actual chess players and get banned on their CZcams content.
If there are people who buy socks off of girls then there are also people that use an engine for fun
Love your video crazy and how you can find a cheater I haven't played chess since I was 8 years old ,now I just watch your videos game comes up I'm going to kick ass I'm 60 now sometimes you're so over my head you truly are the best teacher
Imagine you play sooo good people suspects you of cheating and gets banned, well that's a best compliment you can receive
This feel so good because I had beef with that same cheater. Honestly, the Fairplay Team is doing a great job, it's just fun to watch Levy laugh at the cheater.
the fairplay team manually bans the blatant cheaters that streamers face, but their detection is pretty bad.
@@emeraldcitycs6662 I faced a lot of cheater who got banned without a streamer interventions. However, it seems to happen quicker when they intervene.
@@emeraldcitycs6662 Actually my son cheated and was caught after game 7. They are doing a very good job.
@@robotube7361 Tell him to grow up and stop doing weird shit then
@@robotube7361 did you beat him?
A cheater getting caught gives me SO much dopamine
Damn! Anyone else remember this channel around 100k subs? Seems like just yesterday now Levy about to hit 1.5 milly! Gratz brud and thanks for all the hard work over last two years
I always imagine that, one day, someone is going to come out of nowhere that plays like a computer because they've only ever played against a computer and just start smashing through the ranks. Their times will be human, but their moves will be so weird.
And they say robots aren’t gonna take over the world…
In the hands of this man Erion, just look at what has been done
Lol
Cheaters will be everywhere and fuck up the players, who just want to have fun… This problem is in every game and i hate it… nice Video Levy :)
Actual cheater: hack game. Me cheating: places pawn on top of queen. “Megazord”
A player losing occasionally doesn't guarantee that he occasionally cheats in order to win.
I love these. Nothing beat that time when you realized you were playing a cheater as you started a game and then you proceeded to play very oddly in order to confuse the engine and you ended up winning. Brilliant.
I still remember the days when cheater content was blowing up on YT. It's good to see it return once in a while
18:22 stock fish is so good at stopping pieces so it can force a bad move, it's ridiculous, I can never imagine myself getting good enough to be able to even think about something like that
This was a fantastic video! I've been binge watching your videos today.
why did levy's voice crack so much at the end 19:45 🤣🤣
I don't get what modern day cheaters, who WILL get caught in time think they're gaining.
Back in the day on Yahoo in early online games, on BBS systems in the 80's, etc. I'd run into cheaters a lot. But the games weren't rated, no one was watching, nothing consequential was happening (it was just not fun and frustrating to see your opponent suddenly morph into an obvious engine with 1000 stronger rating points, and yet unable to articulate ANYTHING meaningful about the position or their moves, when you notice and call them on it.
But the way people lie and spread FUD on the net, I suppose it's not surprising.
Although losing because your opponent cheated is humilating, i still think that we can learn a lot from the matchs. After all, we are facing the hardest difficulty ever, so many things can be learnt.
i have been waiting for another cheater vid thank you sooo much pls mke more of these
Think the point of playing Chess is to get better at it and enjoy it. Cheaters want to steal elo so bad and at the same time they are cheating themselves on learning more about the game. Shameful
Cheater: OMG I'm gonna beat GothamChess!
Gotham: Time to embarass a cheater😈
oh i've been missing these cheater video's, thanks levy
I play this Scandinavian line, it is great to know about that e5 idea sacrificing a pawn, I will probably analyze it and try it in my own games. There is some benefit from the cheater.
Levy's out here making the chess world a better place blasting one cheater with an ego problem at a time. Very good content
I'm from Kosovo but technically it makes me Albanian, i gotta say im pretty pissed at the Albanian cheater guy.
don't worry all nations has at least one cheater in them
When facing chess engine, the game is orders of magnitude more terrifying for talented chess players because they can see the horrifying precision of the impending doom.
It's really interesting to see you describing cheaters in the beginning, as I know even more then one person who got banned and didn't fit in these descriptions anyhow even more then one time on Lichess besides Not being sus besides having a nice rating gain in A short period of time. They are friends of mine and I don't think they cheat, they are Not playing much better then I do.
Dewakipas be like, I need another 7000$, I'll be waiting for you again gotham.
The last guy cheater played had even higher accuracy than him xD
I've always wondered when I'm creating studies on Lichess why stockfish sometimes recommends repeating moves multiple times
Banning cheaters in chess is the best video idea ever, these videos always make me laugh! :)
I thought for a while how Levy could find countless cheaters but I never saw one, then realized my rating.
The website notified me of a cheater when I was a ~600 so they exist at all levels, potentially.
This video aimed at the entertainment of getting cheaters banned became a class of chess explaining hard concepts in a game. This is literally revealing how a powerful chess mind thinks. In this case, of course, is a chess engine.
The ideas behind this games where fascinating. These are a great series when you explain what is happening in the game.
Cheaters are the reason I now only play 1|1 bullet.
Cheater videos actually help me a lot
I have to say, there's beauty in Stockfish's play, and thanks to the cheaters we get to witness it
Imagine he isn’t cheating, and he’s single-handedly as sophisticated as stockfish. 🤣
Cheating at chess has to be one of the most idiotic things ever
glad this content is back, love it!
Yep i always do dumb moves when im suspecting my opponents
Just to test their time management lol
Works like a charm :)
@@Kaz_Aniki true tho
But i only play 10+0 because im slow af
And i always do myself a favor by counting (because i play on mobile, i cant see the tike taken lol)
Yeah, but the problem with that plan is if they're not cheating and you get it wrong, then you just throw a game away to dumb moves made on purpose
@@korosensei4873 I can relate it's really tough playing on mobile.
@Jasper Percabeth why do you cheat though
there's no fun in cheating and you're eventually going to get exposed
The knight sack in the last game was actually very educational, high level stuff 👍
It is important to note that any single one of these moves could reasonable be seen by a person, I for example saw the cxd3 nc2 at 4:47, the suspicious thing is so many of them being played in a single game.
your pfp and believes are cancer
you are cancer
Love the chess cheater videos.
Keep up the great work man 👍
One my old friend was named Erion, and he was from Albania🤔
"They're so much better then me they have to be cheating"
Hikaru: making random accounts to hide his true power.
How does one get to play/challenge a cheater without them suspecting anything. I don’t understand how Levy can be so confident he can challenge him.
Gotham got the riddler glasses
Hey levy thanks for keeping me entertained in my worst accident ever thank you
Hope you get well soon
Hope you get well soon
Hope you get well soon
What happened
@@gladio2029 bro💀💀
I love your reactions 😂
gotham chess, aka levy, aka the cheat detector, pls do more content like this, along with guess the elo. ITS THE BEST, i love seeing cheaters get destroyed
"oh my opponent is a clown"
19:54 - Cheater lost to another CHEATER who has an accuracy of 98.8%...
How can Levy miss this?
Only a 10 move game. Likely forced resigned as banned during the game
Levy: Top cheater content in youtube
Literally the entirety of Indonesia right now: ......
Trust me as an indonesian most people dont care about chess
@@Deastrisk Bro you're on this video rn...
@@siddharthanand9695 what do you mean?
I loved changing the color of the board when analyzing or showing new lines that could’ve happened 👍
That game against you was beautifully done, just suffocating.
I can't see how you can prove someone is cheating unless you actually see them doing it.
Because you are a noob
Bruh.
In a Chinese Chess tournament, the grandmaster Wang Tan Yi played against a player. He found that his moves are so deep (he managed to draw against him and he report to the tournament organiser that he suspected this one is a cheater) (For information, Wang Tan Yi is the number 1 Chinese chess player currently). The organizer did a search on Wang Tan Yi's opponent and found his micro earphones which prove he is a cheater. It was round 6 already and no one find out about the truth before Wang Tan Yi did it. So you can definitely prove someone is a cheater without seeing them doing it.
You're clearly new at Chess or an idiot
@@LakadMatatag2702 I think u misspelled the name . I cannot find his name on google
I’m surprised that there’s always at least a few people in twitch chat on major Copium saying things like “he’s not cheating, maybe he’s just lucky”. Looking at a player’s accuracy alone is enough to justify that someone’s cheating, and yet they still give the benefit of doubt to the cheaters.
Accuracy alone from one game isn’t. Insane high accuracy every game is though. But if they make non human moves, take the same time for all moves, and have high accuracy in a game that strongly smells of cheater. But high accuracy in one game with normal time use and findable moves is not solid proof of cheating
@@huckthatdish that’s what I meant; high accuracy across almost every game. Levy pulls up the person’s profile, they play at above 90 accuracy in every game, and people in chat still don’t believe it.
10:20 Levy: I sense a disturbance in the force....
I know the feeling of losing your soul when you play a cheater. It is like fighting a monster with a thousand eyes. It misses nothing.
Was it Hans?
You didn't have to take with the Rook, You could have moved your King to G3
You gotta appreciate Stockfish though, thats truely amazing.