Jiu Jitsu vs Boxing for Self Defense
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- Jiu Jitsu vs Boxing, what is the best for Self Defense? Both are great sport and I would recommend training and practicing both for fitness but for self defense I would confidently recommend boxing. In fights, with boxing you could face multiple attackers while jiu jitsu you can focus on dealing with 1 enemy only.
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boxing can be a lot better than bjj, especially if we mean strictly bjj. however actual jujitsu is better than both.
but they must both be actually trained for that purpose, strictly practicing bjj or boxing only within the context of those sports aren't going to be as helpful in real life as many imagine. if at all depending on the situation.
Just curious, you talk about boxing for health and fitness ... and then mention brain damage.
Perhaps you might want to clarify that disconnect a little?
Now, I assume you are referring to the brain damage that results from hard, competitive boxing. However, this is all relative, is it not?
Could not an unathletic, recreational boxer subject himself to blows that, overtime, could be just as debilitating as an athlete experiences at a competitive level?
@@sylphlite8437 yes, however boxing is much different from boxing "training" which is mainly various drills and exercises to develop your physical ability, level of skill. Not fighting with people lol
Wrestling. 😉 Especially here in England, not many people have wrestling experience.
If you have multiple opponents, the best thing to do is to stay on your feet (boxing) and look for a chance to run like hell.
JJ is better for take down defense
@@780460020014 Jūdō, Shuai Jiao, wrestling, et cetera, are generally superior for takedown defence, because most traditional Jūjutsuka lack adequate live practice.
@@leondarley2811 I agree, but JJ is still better than boxing in terms of take down defense
Not a bad plan!
@HammerFran sure but in a street fight rolling around on the ground can get your head kicked off by someone.
Bit of both is the best, but in a self-defense situation I'd rather have good boxing and a blue belt in BJJ than an black belt and shit boxing. Last thing you want to do is go be mounting a guy and having his buddy start soccer kicking your head. Being able to move effectively with footwork and jab will defuse most self-defense situations without needing to hit a single leg. Especially when there may be more than one aggressor.
Great thoughts mate thanks for sharing! yes, both would be better
True if you’ll just be fighting someone that doesn’t know any bjj then blue belt is all you need with good striking
blue belt is still quite good tbh lol
i belive i heard a black belt say that it's the belt of escapes
BJJ is not only about using grappling offensively. People forget about defensive skills and that BJJ can help you survive being taken down too
So mma
I did boxing for one year to learn the basics and now I’m still doing Bjj, one year in. I agree 100% with you
Why did you stopped boxing mate?
@@Tony_Jeffries because my goal was to learn the basics avoiding brain damage. In Bjj I can train safely without any face or brain injury and that’s why I want to keep doing that.
( still love boxing 🥊)
@@mattiam.7402lol fkin coward the spott is not for u then
@@mattiam.7402fair enough mate, I’m already a month in planning to go far away in boxing, because I like it and I’m passionate about it
@@lilmanq7746I’m trying train boxing for 6 months and switch to Muay Thai I wanna go far with it too
Judo and boxing as the basis for self defence. Nothing better.
I do believe theres no one true discipline, but youre definitely making a good start. Boxing and Judo would make a great combo for general street self defence
Yeah agree boxing more useful
kudo/lethwei and old school boxing rocks
judo is no joke. i saw a dude literally fucking pancake this guy that wanted a fight at a pub. just effortlessly slammed the guy into the ground and said "you done?" guy was like "i'm sorry!".
Boxers are masters of distance and timing. Judokas are masters of balance and control. They make a great combination.
Jiu jitsu is a back up plan if you get down to the ground.
And then his friend curbstomps you there goes ur back up plan
@@Zeke_YeagerChad it’s a “back up”, don’t matter if some guy got a friend or not, no jiu jitsu what do you know to do on the ground?
@@quanhuynh4413 u dont go to the ground in a street fight period. Prolly know more than you and what are you gonna do triangle choke a guy on concrete. Jiujitsu is useless in a street fight. In no situation is it even good as a backup.
@@Zeke_YeagerChad you don’t go to the ground doesn’t mean the fight will not go to ground idiot. Training jiu jitsu doesn’t mean that you have to use only jiu jitsu. And jiu jitsu is not just triangle idiot, if you end up on the ground, jiu jitsu help you escape, get on top, get back on feet… no martial art is useless internet warrior
@@Zeke_YeagerChadif there’s two guys coming at me idc bro I’m running, because even if you land a punch on somebody, the other guy can start getting a hold of you. And if we’re talking about “curb stomping” you have no real experience to counter it if you only know boxing. That’s if you absolutely have to defend yourself though. Like I said, if there’s more than one guy that is trying to fight me, I’m not taking that chance
Besides the punches, boxing is great for the footwork in a street fight or fighting multiple people.
I do agree Juan, thanks for the comment mate 🥊
You are right, but even if you are Mike Tyson it is recommended to run or escape from a street fight
Ofcourse,and boxing is the best to hit,move away and run
Boxing is a survival game
Fully agree. Every martial artist needs to learn both striking and grappling.
Both are good because they give you the stamina and the fitness to run away
exactly. the only correct answer.
1 on 1 jujitsu hands down but on the streets theres always somebody eager to join in
i wouldnt even say 1v1 tbh. The average bjj guy has such shocking takedowns they won't even get near the boxer, especially when they realise the boxer is trying to take their head off every time they get within a meter of them. It's like trying to get near a venomous snake. Wrestling on the other hand, maybe. I say this a blue belt in bjj who loves the sport.
Another thing no one told me when I was younger and found out the hard way later, is how bad having a messed up tmj/jaw sucks. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I found out after going to the ER with a pulse of 180 thinking I was having a stroke because of how bad my head hurt. After ruling out all neurological issues, the neurosurgeon says, hold on, have you had your jaw checked out? I said no, I've been meaning to though because it has popped a lot after I injured it in a muay thai tournament. He says, well I think we just figured it out.
When you've had injuries to your jaw, it can cause inflammation to spring up almost randomly later on in life. In short, your head swells up. But, there's not really anywhere for this pressure to go, and builds up in your face, head, and neck. It presses on the nerves to these areas and causes all sorts of fun. Stuff like, your ears will ring nonstop while at the same time being so sensitive to loud noises you lose your balance if you're around them. Your eyes can get blurry and also very sensitive to light. You'll have random spasms that will cause your jaw to snap shut where you just have to hope you don't bite your tongue or cheek when it happens. You'll grind your teeth so bad they'll chip or fall out if you don't sleep with a night guard all the time. And, you'll basically have the worst migraines that exist, they just don't go away for weeks or months at a time. There's no real treatment besides medication, physical therapy, orthotics, and surgery if all else fails.
Like I said, it just flat out sucks. Meds help. But, they're also so heavy that you'll sleep twice as much as before and not be productive whenever taking them.
Obsessed! I didn't know you've reached that level. Are we gonna see Tony make BJJ tutorials then? haha.
Obsession has zero to do with levels, it’s to do with thoughts. So if he’s obsessed, then he’s obsessed 😅
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Well said! I absolutely agree. But as a boxer I might be biased. However, managing my distance and fighting against inexperienced fighters (in a street fight) really made it easy to win. But if I’d fight a more experienced boxer than Jiu Jitsu could save my ass. So I guess it also depends on the opponent(s). Good thing that I don’t get into street fights anymore.
As a boxing coach/trainer and a US Army Combatives practitioner I believe that the combination of many combat sports is the best tool for self defense. For me the best combination is BJJ and Muay Thai.
have you tried boxing mate?
@@Tony_Jeffries I as an mma practitioner definetly need to polish up my boxing, and your videos are really useful in that sense
@@Tony_Jeffries Being boxing since the age of 12 and coaching since 1997. Love the sport, but realistically the combination of Muay Thai and BJJ for self defense is the best.
Nice! thanks for sharing mate
@@Tony_Jeffries Nice to hear from a fellow warrior.
You can knock out 5 people in 5 seconds if you're a pro. That's not realistic for 99% of people. And especially not when 5 people are attacking you at the same time.
but it IS possible whereas with jiujitsu it's not. I think that's the point he was making. Being a hobbyist in boxing still gives you a better chance against 5 people or at least to hit-and-run than being a hobbyist jiu-jitsu practitioner.
I see your point but i second what the other comment said. Even if you have two people, its gonna take you a while to take someone down and submit them. Even a black belt against someone untrained would take 20 seconds. But you cant take down two people.
Boxing you can end a fight quick.
I double legged someone in a pub fight once and got dragged off my everyone. I was really annoyed.
Whereas in my younger mental days id gotten into several fights and just whacked someone with no technique and did more damage and felt more safe.
He is saying it's possible, I've seen it done before by guys with only a few years of boxing, not 5 more like 3
Yeah but can you do it in jiu jitsu? Are you that shallow to not get the point? 😂
At least you stand a chance
Boxing/ Kickboxing has been my first love for 2 decades for self defence..
Jocko said it right, you can run away in almost any striking situation. If they grab you, you can't run and you had better know how to grapple. BJJ for self defense is not inverted heel hooks and tirangles (necessarily), it's getting back to your feet if you end up on the floor and getting out of dodge.
I love this channel so much... Tony is a world class athlete but his most important virtue for becoming who he is, is his humility. By being humble he opens himself to learning new things even after achieving so much, motivates me so much to be like him
Yes, sir! I do both being 56 and my son does both being 12.
This is the best answer I've ever heard about this.
Boxing would be the prime discipline to train for self defense in my humble opinion over all, especially for the every day person. For beginners etc, Boxing is the "gateway drug" for lack of a better term to branch out into other disciplines too... Boxing is King 🙂.
Great short Tony!
Thanks mate! Have you also tried BJJ?
@@Tony_Jeffries I have enrolled my Daughter into BJJ actually this spring after finally training it myself during the lock downs. I fell in love with it honestly. Personally, everyone starts on their feet right lol.. Boxing, Muay Thai and Kick Boxing are my favourites to train.
For me in street fights boxing is better than muay thai
I personally like both. A fight almost always starts standing up. But a lot of times it ends on the ground. It's best to stay on your feet if possible but it doesn't always end up that way. It's best to be prepared for both standing and ground fighting.
Finally, someone has real common sense about fighting scenarios!
This is literally the best video on this topic on the whole internet
Fanstastic, Tony. I’ve used the same argument. Boxing also develops footwork for you to be able to escape if you’re overwhelmed by several dudes. Jiu jitsu is good for getting kicked in the head by your opponent’s buddy (read: other opponent) when trying to go for a key lock.
Came to the exact same conclusion with the exact same reasoning. Agree with literally everything you said.
YOUR TOTALLY RIGHT! In some cases, sure bjj will be pretty good but if your in a fight your not going to wait to take them down and do a armbar. BECAUSE if your in a fight you want to hit them and get out of there. BECAUSE if your doing bjj on the ground not the same rules apply, like people can punch, bite/ Mike Tysons move, or headbutt. Because I do Bjj, Boxing, Muay Thai, and MMA, so I think your stand up game is more important.
You are genuinely super human for most of Beggeiners.... Thanks for making videos which are this influencing and helpful .... ❤❤❤
Lots of love 💝💝
I thought this was gonna be a reaction to that one parody vid where a BJJ fighter goes to defend against a mugger or something, but first starts butt scooting towards him.
Master Kens Ameri-Do-Te is the most dangerous martial art in the world. That butt scooting move is genius :D
All of these ground fighting techniques are great, but you need to have the ability to be aware of your surroundings and the ability to get off the ground quickly to revert back to boxing or some other martial art.
Came to the exact same conclusion with th exact same reasoning. Agree with literally everything you said.
I am a former black belt in Judo and I now train kickboxing. IMHO boxing/kickboxing is better for self defence because you can take on several opponents while standing. In BJJ you normally pull guard against one opponent which is rather risky in a street fight situation. So I agree with you Tony.
U think judo is better then bjj for streets
Wrestling/judo and muy thai for the average person that doesn’t want to train all of it.
i started boxing this year, been watching all of your videos and others too. soaking up all the knowledge thank you!
Also sanda is so great for self defense.💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Pat was a living legend now hes a legend that'll live forever.. rest well king
Judo is better than bjj for self defense
Have you tired Judo ?
@@Tony_Jeffries Yes I have and my kids were in Judo. In a street fight you do everything you can to NOT go to the ground. If with multiple attackers you're gonna get kicked. I've been in that situation. It's better to stuff the take down or slam them on the concrete and end it. Bjj is good but me personally, for a street fight I prefer Judo is all
Yeah this is why most martial arts have takedowns but little groundfighting.
People get used to watching or competing in matches on mats and kind of get disconnected from how effective a slam onto concrete can be.
So true, because boxing is a full contact Sport
Spot ON!!!
On the streets, I’d rather be a boxer; in a one on one death match I’d 100 percent rather be a grappler.
100% that's how I see it, you wana be on your feet striking on the street and get out of there asap esp vs multiple attackers, 1v1 to death ji jitsu is going to kill them and you will live.
Tony! I love your channel I love the honest Frank way that you speak to your viewers. Interestingly, I live in Burbank California the place where famous American champion heavy weight boxer, James Jeffries resided until his death on 1953.
Keep up the good work your presentations are great👍🏼
love the content! i have done about 2 years of jiu jitsu and now im starting to do boxing. i cant do real boxing i cant afford it but watching your videos has really helped me learn. thank you.
I do BJJ but in a self defence setting It’s leg kicks all day. Quickly neutralises attackers and doesn’t get you arrested 9/10 times.
The jiu jitsu nerds are triggered 😂 truth is striking is more intuitive to learn and after 6 month’s training you could keep yourself safe in almost any realistic situation. If you spam jiu jitsu you have no concept of range, getting hit, footwork, fighting under pressure or striking defense. Striking quickly teaches you fundamentals of self defence that jiu jutsu just won’t
Depends, in most fights usually it goes to the ground or a clinch where jujitsu shines. I did wrestling in highschool and i used to get into alot of fights many were with boxers and i always managed to close the gap and take the fight down. I took kickboxing years down the line then trained some jujitsu as well. 1 on 1 id take a grappling over striking any day but id rather have boxing when theres a risk of people jumping in which happens alot when you take somebody down
@@thrash208 "most fights go to the ground" - when untrained people fight. You think a boxer will try to brawl?
@@Kapito13 well i actually said "clinch or ground" ive never seen a boxing match that didnt have a clinch in it. A boxer in the streets knows better but at the same time wrestlers and BJJ practitioners train in closing the distance. If theyre close enough to land a punch youre close enough to shoot in. Every fight ive been in (yes even with a couple boxers one golden glove finalist) has been basically the same, feint a jab so they close their guard and back up a bit or better yet they try to counter and i shoot. Ive been punched (in fights not sancioned competition) maybe 4 times all glancing blows usually from an attempt to counter wile im shooting or trying to bodylock. And a good BJJ school like the one i went to also teaches some striking as well.
@@thrash208 I agree grappling is generally overpowered unless you get outnumbered. But also as I mentioned boxing has its own advantages over grappling which people ignore. I would personally prefer grappling for 1v1 if I could only choose one
@@Figgy636 i understand what your saying and agree for the most part, but in BJJ (grappling sports in general) they do teach range and footwork its just a different goal one is to land a punch and the other is to shoot and or maintain control. The distance boxers typically stand (out of range at a "safe" distance) is actually in range to shoot in for a single and if youre close enough to land a punch or even step into a punch youre in range for a double and or body lock. This catches boxers off guard because they think they are safe, Every fight ive been in (which is more than im proud of) has been thr same and that goes for untrained and boxers and thats feint a punch change levels and shoot boxers sometimes try to counter which actually works better if thry back up out of shooting range then i just change back levels before following through a shoot. I love boxing i love the sport and its utility to self defwnce but boxers often over estimate their capabilities against grspplers. I cannot tell you how many times ive hear "id just throw an uppercut when they try to take me down and its lights out(this prompted one of my fights with a boxer)" or "id just pivot out of the way" wrestlers pivot and try to "get out of the way we drill it every day and we drill on changing directions on a shoot also somebody shooting in is alot faster than you think its also alot lower than an effective uppercut can land.
totally agree. the majority of the time in a street fight or pub fight punches will do it but if you can take some one down that's also bloody handy.
Both have there merits, yet in a street environment with multiple opponents, you need 360 awareness. Going to the ground pretty much guarantees your gonna get stomped.
Phrased differently, best to stay on your feet as long as possible.
I agree mate, have you tried both?
@@Tony_Jeffries Yes...a few disciplines really. Learned that getting punched in the face really sucks, and dealing with multiple opponents (standing up or on the ground) you get overwhelmed guickly.
One on one- often the best fighter of the day wins, regardless of training.
Best bet is to learn situational awareness (like reading shadows and ambient light patterns). Or just avoid bad situations altogether if possible, which is sadly becoming more difficult in today's world.
Last, I have mad respect for anyone willing to get in a ring. It takes a special breed.
I like what Jocko said, if you have distance you can always run, but if they get up close and grab you, bjj is the best option
Both.😊
Boxing all the way. Of all the options it is the only sport you need to stand up for yourself if running away isn't an option.
Very well said! Agree 100%
THANKS TONY!
Good points
here's the thing, from the standpoint of who would you normally encounter on the street and time to become competent enough to defend yourself it's got to be boxing. the point is to disable the attacker(s) as fast as possible and boxing does that. the only thing boxing doesn't really touch on is multiple attackers.
big up to jujitsu though.
I love this guy ..
Thx for your content..as always, Very good commentary.. I found that to be true as well
I agree on some points with boxing or striking arts but then again i can point out some of the futility and short comings of striking for self defense as much as i can for grappling for self defense.
Love your stuff Tony thanks big chap
I love your progression to mma
Makes me so excited to hear u say u love jiujitsu. If only there was a technology that allowed us to practice boxing without hurting our brains
I followed you for your boxing mate, however I’ve trained BJJ and grappled for 7 years.. it’s great to see you on this journey , you won’t regret it, gets better and better.. I can totally relate , I used to box and strike a lot but as time goes on, grappling works!! oss
Boxing and Bjj is one hell of a deadly combo if you learn them both
I'm Korean, and because of the stupid law in Korea, if you hit the bad guy with a striker even if you're threatened by a bad guy, there's a high probability that the one who used the blow will be legally punished, for whatever reason, so I practice Jiu-Jitsu, and I relatively injure my opponent. I suppress it while not letting it go
Agree.. fight start stand up.
I have 13 years of judo wrestling and juijitsu experience and 5 years of boxing
I can confirm boxing is a better self defence tool than grappling
True and good advice
Yeah boxing would help u more in life for self defense but there both good in my mind
Good on ya brother
Agreed mate. Much love from phillipines
An intelligent human being and a true warrior Tony Jeffries
Good point
very good points man never thought about it like that,
Tony’s not lying, I’ve watched video’s of a single boxer knocking out multiple opponents..
most street fights devolve into an awkward grappling match because both people probablycant fight well. i think thats an underrated skill as well
Man I watch your vids for almost 3 y. Sorry for never leaving a like bc that would ruin my mysic playlist. Just wanted to leave a big THANK YOU!!! You're one of not many guys on YT who gives good advice. Basically you say same things as my trainer but in a more complete way(my coach has a little language barrier) so it feels like you explain to me why my coach makes me do certain things!! God bless you champ!!!!
Agreed! Street- any striking is better , and if bjj and Judo Judo better in street
Boxing is better in a self defense situation imo, one good strike and you run like your coach is chasing you for hitting the bag without wraps
Simply agree
My old boxing coach used to say that the real best martial art for self defense is parkour but if you can't run, boxing till you can is also good lol
Really looking foward to flying out to cali and training at ur gym
arm drag suplex, you hit harder than planet earth hit me up.
they compliment each other B is standing JJ is floor work. add wrestling tech to round it off
Along with learning some judo too. Boxing and Jiu jitsu are the two best for self defense in my humble opioid
I agree with what he say totally. However, I prefer to do both.
Excelente Consejo
When you see multiple opponents, Then you run.
boxing, then grapple while standing, survive on the ground, learn how to escape and stand up again. u can even KO a knife attacker or attackers any time. ground fight with a knife is a last thing u want to get into.
I practice Pistol. Sends them all running. Sometimes without firing a shot. Amazing.
Both are good but I really like as an exboxer you understand the damage being hit in the head can cause, I have trained boxing and Thaiboxing for almost 30 years and it is the one I like.
Agreed. I started doing BJJ nearly a year ago and while I love it I think striking arts like Boxing and Muay Thai is better for self defense. Ive been training in Muay Thai for 5 years and thats my main martial art.
Gonna do both
In a street fight, it's never 1v1. Its always the unexpected.
It sounded like "Elvis has left the Building"!
As a jiu jitsu guy i agree
basically if you can learn both, you'll be good to go
This is true thanks tony
Thanks mate 🥊
They are both efficient and productive.
Tony, you're an Olympic medalist. Incredibe. To reach THAT level of achievement thru hard hard work. Inspiring and beautiful. I really like my Glock. 👍. Love your videos, respect.
My favorite fighting technique to train for is sprinting as hard as fast as I possibly can
For me personally I’ve only been boxing as my main martial art but In a street scenario I think a hip toss or judo throw not really sure what the actual terminology is can be useful for ppl who only know how to strike
It also really doesn't matter who's charging, unless its something weird like Capoeira, you have the instinct of keeping distant and slipping.
I feel like the best self defense is boxing and wrestling as a background