I recall seeing you on stage assisting James Iha at the Smashing Pumpkin's show at United Center in Chicago. Cool, thanks for posting, and great guitar sounds for sure.
Very cool and I gotta say the analog FOH sounded KILLER with that PA. Saw the Calgary show and it was spectacular. Didn't even notice walking in, I was so excited to be at the show, and on my way out I was like "oh I should go see what they're running real quick" and my jaw hit the goddamn floor when I saw an XL4 and racks full of Distressors. Well done all around guys.
Nah, it's more complex: - 20 percent are non touring wannabes. -10 percent are touring wannabes. -10 percent are touring musicians with big budgets and and strong young roadies. -5 percent are touring Kemper owners. -5 percent are non touring Kemper owners. -10 percent are Line6 fanboys, touring or not. -20 percent are frustrated ex-AxeFX-users. -10 percent are wives of AxeFX users. -5 percent are co-guitarists of AxeFX owners. - 2 percent are owners of amp companies. The rest of the haters are flamer kids, reptilians, russian agents and, of course, your mom (for ruining christmas by playing guitar all night).
@@jcoriha I have an '81, it's something in the paint that has a chemical breakdown over the years. Mine has a bit of greening to it. I just love it when people nerd out over gear
@@williamanthony175 the finish on the back of the neck of my '79 is gone, just bare wood. The whole thing is banged up and turned nasty green. I freakin love it. The back side has this gold-ish orange tint to it. Amazing.
Cool William. Those Silverbursts have always been a favorite of mine. I remember Billy also mentioned that he preferred the Silverburst to James' main black Custom, because it stays in tune better. I remember seeing a short control room clip of Billy playing it on an overdub.
He is not kidding about front of house being only analog. We had seats behind the FOH engineer and they had this big analog mixer. Never saw one in person before
what's the 'in ears' reference? & just the fact this guy ran white noise thru his amp to make sure levels were on the money for gain structure is insane, that's dedication.
5:12 Billy Corgan performed nearly all of the guitar and bass parts on the record, which was confirmed by Vig in a later interview, on gish..Corgan's desire for musical perfection put further strain on the already-frayed relationships between the band members. Vig later recalled, "D'arcy would lock herself in the bathroom, James wouldn't say anything, or Billy would lock himself in the control room". Corgan often overdubbed Iha's and Wretzky's parts with his own playing...and siams d.
I’ve always wanted to know more about how the whole two axe fx’s thing works, although I would’ve preferred corgan’s rig since he’s like the only high profile rock musician using a helix right now
@@ronalddesrosiers9281 ...Actually no lol. My girlfriend and I were waiting on an elevator, and I felt this weird strange pulling sensation in the back of my neck, so I turned and looked to the right, and at the end the of the hallway there was a huge window. And the sun light was coming through and in the sun light, I saw this tall bad guy walking towards us. Something was familiar about this guy, so I turned back to the elevator, and said to myself "no Fucking way" so I turned back to look and the guy kept walking closer to us, and as he came closer I noticed it was billy corgan. He was casually walking up to us with his head down. He was actually going to join us in the elevator UNTIL he looked up and saw my girlfriend staring at him with her jaw open. He then kinda gave a faint smile tilted his head up, and very slowly turned on his heel, and went into another elevator lol. ...in other words, my girlfriend billy corgan cock blocked me lol
@@ronalddesrosiers9281 But he gave off the impression that he didn't want to be bothered or anything. He looked pretty lonely, that and he literally just came out of the cocktail bar that he had reserved for that night. He was wearing just regular clothes. Band shirt, blue jeans black shoes. Hes Fucking tall
They are more of an alternative rock band (people call their genre space rock due to sci-fi inspired lyrics similar to HUM), they didnt really fit into the grunge sound at the time so they never got the attention I believe they deserved. Cool band though, they reunited 16 years later in 2014 due to a rise in popularity due to people rediscovering their music on the internet and are now actively creating music again. If youve heard of the band A Perfect Circle (whom James Iha plays for), they covered one of Failures songs which you may have heard - "The Nurse who Loved Me". Check em out if you're interested! czcams.com/video/JJ355Yrf_FY/video.html
Duane (tech in the video) toured with NIN, and Failure, among other bands. I've seen those cases at his old place. I got to see Duane work and design some of the sounds for this tour, and work on the guitars before the tour started. Was awesome and insane how much work and dedication he put into this. Was totally worth it though, it sounded awesome at the live shows.
yes gish,siamese were all billy and jimmy..but he used many guitars including iha's...mellon collie everyone recorded their own parts and same with adore/machina....
would have loved to hear more les paul sounds, preferably by james. but again, assuming there's 50 layers of guitars per song it's probably in vain. the demos always sound more timeless to me.
@@LfunkeyA if you wanna hear what the LP does on record, listen to the opening of Siva. The first guitar is a strat, and the second is the les paul. Sounds louder, bigger, but less cutting.
Randomly revisiting this video and saw this, and I am sure you know the answer now. :P James like a lot of big acts don't use on-stage cabs anymore. All the audio comes through the in-ear monitors. I remember the old Perfect Circle rig rundown Billy Howerdale uses at 1 Marshell Cab for some on-stage air movement. Crazy how advanced stuff has gotten! ha
Everyone auditioning for Pumpkins right now thinks they'll be off to Willy Wonka's magical pumpkin pedal candy coated dream....... ....... This is the black box 😕
Cool to see J. Iha using the Friedman JJ"s...... So Smashing Pumpkins can afford to tour with tube amps but Metallica says it's to expensive? Am I missing something here? My friends that have seen Metallica recently said it sounded like a blanket was covering their guitar sound.......
@@Viper-dz2kw perfect answer. all these people complaining but the fact of the matter is that modelers are taking over due to extreme portability, reliability and versatility. The AxeFx3 combines presets, scenes and 4 channels per sound block, providing huge flexibility in terms of the humongous number of combinations of sounds and tones you can get. The degree of virtual pre, power and cab config you can get to is amazing. True innovators are embracing this new generation of highly customizable tone modelers and showing what's possible.
Innovation equals -trying new things ...not to mention times they are a changing luggin’ around 100lb amps to tour sucks let’s just be honest . Analog will always kill digital but not in convenience and at 43 years young I’m tired of luggin this shit around . Call me lazy , call me a sellout my back calls me smart .
I agree, but it's less things that could break or mess up. Touring on an almost day to day schedule, I imagine they do it for reliability and convenience. I know where you're coming from through
@infloslinger I managed to pickup a strategy 500 on eBay and I swear the thing is 60lbs. I have some racks and it sounds like a monster with the jmp-1 and ada mp-1, I'm yet to get a triaxis but I hear it's a beast too.
i understand its economical and simple. Im not even throwing in the argument of what sounds better. My point is I dont need to pull up a video where the rig is a midi controller and a computer module thats a 15 second video.
I saw them live a month ago or so and after was commenting to some other gear heads that I didn't like how it sounded like they were playing through a MacBook. They were like "Are you sure? Sounded fine to me." I was more or less right! I mean the MacBook isn't making the sounds, but still, AxeFX and a MacBook. I could tell.
![Rig Rundown: The Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan & Jeff Schroeder [2022]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/s2jExoNQWnU/mqdefault.jpg)
Emulating all the gear from decades of pumpkins songs, I'd go with a digital rig too... They sounded phenomenal on this tour.
Exactly
I recall seeing you on stage assisting James Iha at the Smashing Pumpkin's show at United Center in Chicago. Cool, thanks for posting, and great guitar sounds for sure.
Pretty awesome to see all the guitars. I can really nerd out on it. Thanks for sharing, great video!!
Very cool and I gotta say the analog FOH sounded KILLER with that PA. Saw the Calgary show and it was spectacular. Didn't even notice walking in, I was so excited to be at the show, and on my way out I was like "oh I should go see what they're running real quick" and my jaw hit the goddamn floor when I saw an XL4 and racks full of Distressors. Well done all around guys.
AWESOME new stuff.
Basically 100% non touring wannabes complaining about Axe Fx 😂😂😂
Nah, it's more complex:
- 20 percent are non touring wannabes.
-10 percent are touring wannabes.
-10 percent are touring musicians with big budgets and and strong young roadies.
-5 percent are touring Kemper owners.
-5 percent are non touring Kemper owners.
-10 percent are Line6 fanboys, touring or not.
-20 percent are frustrated ex-AxeFX-users.
-10 percent are wives of AxeFX users.
-5 percent are co-guitarists of AxeFX owners.
- 2 percent are owners of amp companies.
The rest of the haters are flamer kids, reptilians, russian agents and, of course, your mom (for ruining christmas by playing guitar all night).
Im nerding out here. Good stuff
So, basically a Marshall JCM 800, with an Electro Harmonix OP Amp Big Muff Pi.
no
The whole time I was thinking "man, show the silver burst"
EXACTLY Bro, I got a '79 Silverburst myself...
James' has kept the original color better than Adam Jones'. Maybe because it's never been his #1. A lot of them turn almost green
@@jcoriha I have an '81, it's something in the paint that has a chemical breakdown over the years. Mine has a bit of greening to it. I just love it when people nerd out over gear
@@williamanthony175 the finish on the back of the neck of my '79 is gone, just bare wood. The whole thing is banged up and turned nasty green. I freakin love it. The back side has this gold-ish orange tint to it. Amazing.
Cool William. Those Silverbursts have always been a favorite of mine. I remember Billy also mentioned that he preferred the Silverburst to James' main black Custom, because it stays in tune better. I remember seeing a short control room clip of Billy playing it on an overdub.
He is not kidding about front of house being only analog. We had seats behind the FOH engineer and they had this big analog mixer. Never saw one in person before
I saw him at the iheart radio atum release party.
Now BC's one updated ;)
what's the 'in ears' reference? & just the fact this guy ran white noise thru his amp to make sure levels were on the money for gain structure is insane, that's dedication.
Dude, that is one serious set-up.
I love the pumpkins... But man patch chord couple of effects and my super reverb I'm good to go!
5:12 Billy Corgan performed nearly all of the guitar and bass parts on the record, which was confirmed by Vig in a later interview, on gish..Corgan's desire for musical perfection put further strain on the already-frayed relationships between the band members. Vig later recalled, "D'arcy would lock herself in the bathroom, James wouldn't say anything, or Billy would lock himself in the control room". Corgan often overdubbed Iha's and Wretzky's parts with his own playing...and siams d.
ok what about MCIS, Adore and Machina? He played on those and didn’t use an AxeFX
I was hoping to see a Big Muff and a Maestro Phaser.
I haven't seen [or heard] my perfect circle but I've deffo seen that silver burst Gibson loads
I’ve always wanted to know more about how the whole two axe fx’s thing works, although I would’ve preferred corgan’s rig since he’s like the only high profile rock musician using a helix right now
Not as high profile but St. Vincent uses them.
Those Jerry Cantrell Friedmans are awesome sounding.
Good Lord this guy is a young Chris Cooper! Even sounds like him
that was fuckin' awesome!
Really wish he pulled out the Yamaha Revstar.
The future of touring, ladies and gentlemen!!
It's always been like this back then too...
All that programming yeesh
I was wondering when we could take the experience of managing Excel spreadsheets into music equipment.
trying to play the books, are you?
I ran into billy corgan in the hallway at the Sawyer hotel in Sacramento. We ran right into him before the concert.
Really?? Did you talk to him at all?
How was he friendly or didn't want to be bothered?? lol 🎸
@@ronalddesrosiers9281 ...Actually no lol. My girlfriend and I were waiting on an elevator, and I felt this weird strange pulling sensation in the back of my neck, so I turned and looked to the right, and at the end the of the hallway there was a huge window. And the sun light was coming through and in the sun light, I saw this tall bad guy walking towards us. Something was familiar about this guy, so I turned back to the elevator, and said to myself "no Fucking way" so I turned back to look and the guy kept walking closer to us, and as he came closer I noticed it was billy corgan. He was casually walking up to us with his head down. He was actually going to join us in the elevator UNTIL he looked up and saw my girlfriend staring at him with her jaw open. He then kinda gave a faint smile tilted his head up, and very slowly turned on his heel, and went into another elevator lol. ...in other words, my girlfriend billy corgan cock blocked me lol
@@ronalddesrosiers9281 But he gave off the impression that he didn't want to be bothered or anything. He looked pretty lonely, that and he literally just came out of the cocktail bar that he had reserved for that night. He was wearing just regular clothes. Band shirt, blue jeans black shoes. Hes Fucking tall
He sounds like James haha
Hey this just showed up in my feed and that's Duane who produced my record lol #random (band is The Tissues)
Ron, the swtich King!!!
3:25 I see a NIN stencil on the side of that hard case, does it also say "FAILURE"? If so that's awesome to see Failure on some Pumpkins equipment!
Underrated band from the 90s.
They are more of an alternative rock band (people call their genre space rock due to sci-fi inspired lyrics similar to HUM), they didnt really fit into the grunge sound at the time so they never got the attention I believe they deserved. Cool band though, they reunited 16 years later in 2014 due to a rise in popularity due to people rediscovering their music on the internet and are now actively creating music again. If youve heard of the band A Perfect Circle (whom James Iha plays for), they covered one of Failures songs which you may have heard - "The Nurse who Loved Me". Check em out if you're interested! czcams.com/video/JJ355Yrf_FY/video.html
binbagboy Yeah, I think they are with hum and soul coughing, the underrated trinity of the alternative scene in the 90's.
Duane (tech in the video) toured with NIN, and Failure, among other bands. I've seen those cases at his old place. I got to see Duane work and design some of the sounds for this tour, and work on the guitars before the tour started. Was awesome and insane how much work and dedication he put into this. Was totally worth it though, it sounded awesome at the live shows.
Failure are criminally underrated
This is better the rig rundown from the depressing 2012 tour.
I heard Billy only uses a phase 90 live on stage like all the time.......... (1992)
hollycrap .. he's hot glue-ing the Friedman ... why not just put some tape and marker
I can't find what tom Anderson pickups tho
Ima take a stab that they're the H3 (bridge) and H1 (neck) which is what he uses for APC
assuming billy recorded and played everything on their records, are any of these guitars really on them?
yes gish,siamese were all billy and jimmy..but he used many guitars including iha's...mellon collie everyone recorded their own parts and same with adore/machina....
would have loved to hear more les paul sounds, preferably by james. but again, assuming there's 50 layers of guitars per song it's probably in vain. the demos always sound more timeless to me.
@@LfunkeyA if you wanna hear what the LP does on record, listen to the opening of Siva. The first guitar is a strat, and the second is the les paul. Sounds louder, bigger, but less cutting.
I WAS AT THIS SHOW
Was this san diego?
Zion Carlson I believe so, I mean I recognize those red chairs
@@daftdoggo7662 that's what I thought too. Amazing show!
Congratulations! You are now immortal.
Same here! Viejas is a great venue
After seeing all the techno electronics involved, makes me long to see an unplugged performance.
What cabs??
Randomly revisiting this video and saw this, and I am sure you know the answer now. :P
James like a lot of big acts don't use on-stage cabs anymore. All the audio comes through the in-ear monitors. I remember the old Perfect Circle rig rundown Billy Howerdale uses at 1 Marshell Cab for some on-stage air movement. Crazy how advanced stuff has gotten! ha
Jesus Christ what happened to plugging the guitar into an amp??
It's all smoke and mirrors at the end of the day and we pay for it. We all gotta live and make a profit.
Everyone auditioning for Pumpkins right now thinks they'll be off to Willy Wonka's magical pumpkin pedal candy coated dream.......
....... This is the black box 😕
I always skip the axe FX rig rundowns. theyre all the same.
Huh
Haha this guy spilled the beer all over the table at schottenstein center in August! I was like smh
Cool to see J. Iha using the Friedman JJ"s...... So Smashing Pumpkins can afford to tour with tube amps but Metallica says it's to expensive? Am I missing something here? My friends that have seen Metallica recently said it sounded like a blanket was covering their guitar sound.......
Nice to see James has a lot to keep him busy making it easier to ignore Billy's whine.
I was expecting to see lot's of analog stuff...nothing!!!
Friedmans...
wtf did you watch, 90% of sound is JJ, point to point 😂
*YAWN*
Lol, AxeFX and Friedman amps. Like any rockstar. And Line6 wants to make us believe they use that crappy HX Effects unit....
Doesn't Billy use the Line 6 HX effects?
No more real amps and effect pedals sigh..
Wow so rock and roll.. a bunch of s*** from the musician's Friend catalog. How about like a drink holder on the mic stand and some compression socks.
It's all Greek to me lol
Just plug in and play
Guess they didn't have all that stuff in the 60's lol
Let's face it. The days of analog amps and cabs doing all the magic are dead and gone. It is only going to be more computing from now on.
allrain Another words, lots of hand holding.
Why? Musicians should just go back to being humans.
Sometimes music can become a job.
The future is now, old man.
Kinda disappointing to see a proper innovator like James using Axe-FX for me. :/
Why?
I’m mean that’s exactly what he’s doing lol, if he was a real innovator he’d be using nothing but amp sims, pedals are dead bro get over it
@@Viper-dz2kw perfect answer. all these people complaining but the fact of the matter is that modelers are taking over due to extreme portability, reliability and versatility. The AxeFx3 combines presets, scenes and 4 channels per sound block, providing huge flexibility in terms of the humongous number of combinations of sounds and tones you can get. The degree of virtual pre, power and cab config you can get to is amazing. True innovators are embracing this new generation of highly customizable tone modelers and showing what's possible.
Come on they use real gear for the studios and Axe-Fx for touring...think about the money they saving for the whole tour....$$$$$$$$$
Innovation equals -trying new things ...not to mention times they are a changing luggin’ around 100lb amps to tour sucks let’s just be honest . Analog will always kill digital but not in convenience and at 43 years young I’m tired of luggin this shit around . Call me lazy , call me a sellout my back calls me smart .
Axe fx not real tone
We can stop the axe fx guitar rigs. Pointless and uninteresting. It’s a computer. Not a guitar rig.
I agree, but it's less things that could break or mess up. Touring on an almost day to day schedule, I imagine they do it for reliability and convenience. I know where you're coming from through
@infloslinger I managed to pickup a strategy 500 on eBay and I swear the thing is 60lbs. I have some racks and it sounds like a monster with the jmp-1 and ada mp-1, I'm yet to get a triaxis but I hear it's a beast too.
i understand its economical and simple. Im not even throwing in the argument of what sounds better. My point is I dont need to pull up a video where the rig is a midi controller and a computer module thats a 15 second video.
U R Limited
I saw them live a month ago or so and after was commenting to some other gear heads that I didn't like how it sounded like they were playing through a MacBook. They were like "Are you sure? Sounded fine to me." I was more or less right! I mean the MacBook isn't making the sounds, but still, AxeFX and a MacBook. I could tell.
Depressing semi-automated plastic set up. Lame.
Oh, so how does it sound? Irrelevant in your estimation, I guess.
genxtargetmarket I’m sure Hitler could have taken singing lessons and eventually sounded “good”.
You don't even know how to use rhetoric effectively. Full Stop.
You don't even know how to take a joke properly. Full stop. Also it's called false equivalency, not inaccurate rhetoric.
Actually, it's just a shitty analogy. But yeah, the set up is lame AF.
I get why a rig like this makes sense but damn is it boring.
Too complicated. I bet it isn’t even fun playing guitar at this level.
No. At that level, it's all putting a perfect show. That's what differentiates us normal people and professionals.