Tom Selleck is a fun actor with a lot of charisma, but he doesn't exude danger like Ford does. I love that Indiana in the first film is an anti-hero and shows real brutality at times. My daughter was legitimately scared of him (but also drawn to him) when she watched the first film. THAT is what Indiana was lacking in the sequels, where he became increasingly buffoonish. I also MUCH prefer the title "Raiders of the Lost Ark, as it makes clear that Indy is one of the raiders as well.
@@Rev03FFL I think it also screws up Han's character arch by not having him shoot first. Even in real life if someone was point a gun in your face you have the right to shoot them. So it wasn't like a "murder" exactly.
Yes, brutality and also a bit of a rogue. He had an affair with Marion when she was underage, he basically was in his 20's and Marion was like 14 or 15.
agreed. cant imagine Raiders without Harrison anymore than I can imaging Quigley Down Under without Selleck. Both great actors but have totally different characteristics within their acting styles.
@@raymondjamesrivera Yeah, that's the ONLY element from the film I don't really like. Again, it is minor since it's only during Indy and Marion's first dialogue scene together and she never explicitly says she was in her teens other than "I was a child! I was in love" and Indy was in his 20's when he first harbored feelings for her, but it's still an outdated minor part of the film considering how underage affairs is frowned upon since the #MeToo Movement. I'm sure if Lawrence Kasdan were to write Raiders today, he wouldn't have had Marion be a teenager when Indy started to show romantic attraction toward her.
I refuse to add "Indiana Jones and" to the beginning of "Raiders", and "A New Hope" after "Star Wars", and it annoys the hell out of me when people do this. However, to be fair, "Episode IV A New Hope" _was_ officially added to the title of "Star Wars", so someone referring to it as such is more acceptable than anyone who calls this movie "Indiana Jones and The Raiders of the Lost Ark" since that prefix was _never_ added to this movie's title.
@@WmTRiker I get your point about it being officially added, and there was a time I would have maybe signed on, but let's be honest. The rat and GL have gone back and pooched so many things that I think at this point everybody who's old enough is in pure headcanon/legends territory. It'll always be "star wars", it'll always be "raiders", and Han always shot first. (Though I have to admit, I rather like e.t.s species being added to the SW universe. Both for the fanboy side, and it's kind of a nice idea. )
@@blackc1479 Keep in mind that SW got the subtitle _before_ the rat got hold of it. They added that when they decided to make a sequel ("Empire Strikes Back"). In fact, according to Wikipedia, it first got the subtitle in the 1979 book _The Art of Star Wars._ My point is that SW has had the subtitle almost its entire "life", whereas Raiders has _never_ officially had the prefix. Same with the original "Rambo" movie ("First Blood"). People add the character's name to the title to link it with the sequels even though that has never been an official title. And, no, Han did _not_ shoot first as Greedo never did shoot. Han's the _only one_ who got off a shot.😆
I may be in the minority but I think the released version is almost a perfect movie. I'm glad they didn't go with the original script version and since a lot of the scenes were put in other Indy movies, I think we still got to see the best parts of the og script
I'd agree with that. Stuffing too many ideas into one movie is how you get Rise of Skywalker. Another movie where there was a cut scene, that despite it being a good scene, I'm glad it didn't make the final movie was Alien. The original movie had a scene where the alien was building a hive. No where near as big as in Aliens, but still the same idea. In my opinion, that was much better held back for the second movie.
The idol in the final version of the movie was actually built with moving eyes, but sadly most of the shots where you could see them got cut. However, you can still see it move its eyes to look at Indy while he is making his way towards it if you pay a lot of attention
One thing I clearly remember from seeing this as a kid was just how damn loud Indy's gun was, especially during the fight in Marion's bar. That has to be one of the loudest handguns in the history of cinema.
Hey, man! This is a GREAT idea for the start of a new type of series on here. You should keep this idea going! You could call it “Original Vision” or something, and do it for a myriad of movies that evolved over time from their original concept. If you decide to continue this concept, can I make a suggestion? Do Star Wars next? The differences between the original “Starkiller” script and what we got on screen in 77 are a stark contrast! The original script opened with Anakin Skywalker in the desert. Seriously though, don’t abandon this show format! It’s great!
I found it interesting that so much from Temple Of Doom originally appeared in the Raiders first draft. So much stuff that I'm a little surprised Kasdan didn't get a writing credit for Temple Of Doom.
I’ve read the original first draft and there’s some details you forgot to mention. In the Cairo fight sequence, instead of taking the basket with Marion inside, the Nazis immediately just dump her in the back of a Chevy and Indiana pursues after the truck riding on a camel until the Nazis make a quick switch and put Marion into a Ford automobile in an attempt to fool Indy, but Indy notices the switch and pursues after the new vehicle into the desert. The Ford then disappears behind a hill and when it comes out Indy shoots the tires and it causes the vehicle to fall off a cliff and explode. Then later on when Indy discovers Marion alive, tied up in the Nazis’ command tent, she reveals the Nazis did another switch in between driving behind the hill. Also, Marcus never accompanied Indy to the meeting with the government agents. As soon as Indy meets them, he leaves. So he was going to be a much more minor character. And during the meeting, the government officials reveal other ancient religious artifacts Hitler is pursuing in addition to the Ark such as the Spear of Destiny. During the escape from the plane via life raft sequence, there’s a kindly old bespectacled lady, whose actually a Nazi spy that steals the other half of the Medallion, only for it to be revealed after Indy’s escape, he had the piece the whole time taped to his back. Also, another thing you forgot to mention of Toht’s (Belzig) original death is he rode in the same staff car as Gobler and died with him when Indy rammed his car off the road and over the cliff. And Dietrich’s original name was Schliemann and he was the one pursuing Indy and Marion through the mine shaft. Those are just some details I thought worth bringing up. But still a good video covering the differences between the first draft and the final film. I’m even impressed you managed to find the storyboards of the original Shanghai sequence. I’ve only seen the one with Tengu Hok (4:27 - 4:31), but never the whole sequence itself. So, seeing the storyboards of what the sequence would’ve looked like was very fascinating.
In the time period this movie was set in, submarines traveled faster on the surface, than underwater. Since it was pre-WW2, nobody was going to be shooting at the submarine. So they had no reason to be traveling at periscope depth.
Yes, I'm no expert about this but I know submarines back then pre-nuclear only had a very limited range underwater because they had to use electric batteries whereas on the surface they could use diesel and go much faster and further.
It's been many years since I read it, but in the novel it did submerge. Indy used his whip to lash himself to the periscope to keep from being stranded or drowning. It still seemed implausible that it wouldn't have submerged under periscope depth but that was how it was written in the novel.
@@themange99 "in the novel" based on the film's screenplay, the novel didn't come first but film novelisations tend to include stuff that's not in the actual film.
One of the biggest problems is the tendency to introduce a new important character in every scene and then totally forget about it -it was extremely wise to write all those characters down into one or two as they did.
I think Ford was perfect for this film but I have no doubt Selleck would’ve been just as amazing. Great job Minty and thank for calling it by it’s original title, just like you did for Star Wars. You’re an old school hero. 👍
I first saw this movie in the theaters when it came out; I had no idea what the plot was, and assumed the "ark" was Noah's Ark. Fortunately I was dating a Jewish gal at the time and she explained to me what the Ark of the Covenant was. Still love ya Julianne!
You were old enough to date but could not follow the plot of a movie that clearly explains what the Ark was, and was straightforward in its presentation? Um.... Okkk
@@hisdivineshadow8263 haha I already picked him up on that one, I think he was just trying to boast that he had a gf or make out he had special insider knowledge cos he happened to know someone Jewish when it's not necessary considering Harrison spends a whole scene explaining what the ark is so my conclusion is he had no gf and Julianne is a concoction.
minty you are the greatest man i love watching your breakdowns of all the things i grew up with and loved as a child its almost like you bring each one back to life for each episode of your show love it man
The first film I ever saw with a post credit scene had Steven Spielberg as an executive producer. It was the 1985 film Young Sherlock Holmes. Spoilers for a nearly 40 year old movie. In the film, a young Sherlock is attending an English boarding school where he meets a young (not yet Doctor) John Watson. The villain of the piece is revealed to be one of their teachers. After the credits have finished, there is a scene of a carriage traveling through a snow covered countryside until it stops at an inn. A figure gets out of the carriage and goes inside and is revealed as the villainous teacher. We see him sign the register as..... Moriarity.
The 1922 John Barrymore "SHERLOCK HOLMES" (a remake and expansion of the 1916 film with William Gillette, based on Gillette's own 1899 stage play) adds a new prologue where we see Holmes & Watson IN COLLEGE together, before Watson ever went into the army, and Holmes, out of curiosity, goes to meet Professor Moriarty, whose obvious criminality inspires him to follow the career path of being a consulting detective. When I saw this film not long ago, it struck me that "YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES" had to have taken some inspiration from it. As it stands, I like the Barrymore film more (though it pales in comparison to the Gillette film).
Hi Minty. I loved the way you started this: "Began a franchise of 3 amazing movies. Uh, 4, um 5, um, yeah, 3 amazing movies." Spot on. That script version sounded interesting but I'm glad we got the version we have. I have all 4 movies and have watched 3 of them many times and I doubt I will bother buying number 5. 😁🖖
SAW IT THE DAY IT CAME OUT IN KC,MO !!! & IN THE VERY SAME THEATER WE SAW THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK & HANDS DOWN A REALLY GOOD MOVIE, HARRISON FORD DID ALL TOGETHER 6 GREAT FRANCHISE MOVIES THE WHOLE CAST & WRITERS & CREW MADE GLITTER & GOLD THE 1980s WERE A FINE TIME TO GROW UP !!!
Harrison Ford was casted perfectly and so was Marion and everyone else down to the spider monkey..so cute❣️ Thanks for putting this awesome video together. 🙏🏻👍
So glad they went with the version we got. If anyone is interested, there's also a script reading of Indiana Jones and The Monkey King here on CZcams. I don't remember the channel name, but it's easy to find. There are parts of it that just completely insane. It does try to pack in way too many characters, etc, but there's no refrigerator scene. Lol.
I happen to have one of the crew copies of the original screenplay that I purchased a few years ago. It is really amazing to see the differences between what was in the script and then what was in the movie.
So glad you reference Chip N' Dale (R-R-R-R-Rescue Rangers!!!); as soon as the opening of the vid had Tom Selleck as Indy thats the first thing I wanted to see!!
Thank you so much for this. I really enjoyed it and if I am not mistaken the storyboards were done by Dave Stevens who created the original Rocketeer comics.
I loved Tom Selleck as Magnum PI, but he couldn't have fleshed out Indiana Jones the way Harrison Ford did. Everything worked out great for both actors...as if controlled by fate, or the Ark, or something.
Great use of music. This is one of your best videos. I learned new stuff. The original script had stuff for three films. You should do the original Ghostbusters script. It's a mad'un. The Chip'n'Dale blokes...they knew.
It definitely sounds like too many characters and "side quests" for it to have spent enough time developing the main characters and establishing the core locations. Still, it might have been good and Tom Selleck might have given us a wonderful interpretation of Indy. What we did get, however, was cinematic gold!
Minty: 'Raiders of the Lost Ark is, without a doubt, the greatest adventure movie of all time." Me: Not sure about *the* greatest, but I'd agree that it's still *one of* the greatest. 😀
It is because it's also a historical, religious, adventure, pulp fiction, comedy, romance, horror movie. It hits every note. The best movie Hollywood could make in 70 years.
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 ....Empire has the famous cut wampa scene that would have changed the flow of the Hoth story line. I'm guessing they had to make the ATAT attack longer since the wampa scenes failed .. In Jedi Gary Kurtz wanted it to ba a darker ending and not go with the Luke and Leia are brother and sister theme...the original idea was to have Leia becoming Queen and Luke going off to find new Jedi to train... Aso the ewoks were originally going to be wookies ....But Kurtz and Lucas had a falling out and it is said that Lucas chsnged things to sell more toys and wanted the more happy ending as we got ..Also the opening would have taken place on Mustafar and we see Vader's lair , and finally there were 2 Death Stars being constructed in the original script.. Other SW channels have done a series on this I just can't remember which one. And the original star wars was originally called the Adventures of Luke StarKiller and the script went through a number of changes and has serveral deleted scenes . The most interesting original idea was that Han Solo was originally going be like a green skinned lizard guy
I love the "Raiders that could have been." I really enjoy seeing these episodes that show what could have taking place if different decisions had been made.
A couple other interesting details from earlier versions of the script: It was originally made more clear that when Indiana returns to Marion's bar, it isn't to save her but to steal the headpiece, and he just happens to run into the bad guys and ends up saving Marion. Also, in the final scene, Marion can't resist opening her eyes and looking at the ark, so when the dust settles and Indy finally opens his eyes, he finds Marion has turned into a burnt skeleton.
Ok. I’ve read the drafts of Raiders and that last part with Marion’s death never happened. What really happened was Marion was tied up in the Tabernacle and as it’s burning from the powers of the Ark, Indy goes in and rescues her and together, they escape with the Ark in a mine cart and pursued by Nazis.
A few years ago I read an interview with an academy award winning script writer. His first piece of advice is to stop explaining so much. If you find a place to more low key explain things, that's fine. But stop filling scenes that explain everything.
Harrison Ford was very lucky that the "Type cast demon never caught him. Some will see him in a movie " Hey that guy was Han Solo or " Hey That guy was the blade runner in Blade Runner" or " hey that's Indiana Jones !!!" It does not matter Ford continues to be whoever he wants.
You probably already know that Tom Sellek did do an episode on Magnum P I. titled "Legend of the Lost Art". So, in a way, he DID get to play the "Indiana Jones" part after all.
Great video Minty - one of ur best yet I reckon! But you do adore the subject matter so that brought out ur best. Lots of great info and it's really interesting to see the changes that occurred! Cheers mate.
I was a kid when this came out and loved it. But as with all new movies, it was a blockbuster but hadn't reached iconic status yet. I remember liking King Solomon's Mines with Richard Chamberlain and a young Sharon Stone just as much. The same actor that plays Sallah is in it as well except in King Solomon's Mines he's a baddy.
Boring story: My brother has a display cabinet with different beer steins, mugs, and goblets, and tucked in the back there's a replica of the Holy Grail from Temple of Doom. When people come over for the first time, he challenges them to look closely and choose which one they would drink from, then tells them "You choose wisely" or "You chose poorly" depending on whether or not they chose the Grail. Most people choose wrong, but EVERYONE recognizes the Grail once it's pointed out. One friend spotted the Grail and even said "This is the cup of a carpenter."
this video is fantastically cool, being a big Indie fan that i am it was really cool to learn about the orginal script even though it wasnt as good as what we actually got :)
I wasn’t expecting that… not the facts, but you saying “it belongs in a museum!” That was perfect and so funny I’m still laughing about it Perfect impression too!!❤
This is good but I was getting confused with the visuals and your audio as to what was the movie and what was the intended movie. Maybe have some sort of split screen that shows what 'really' happened and what the initial script was? But I LOVE this idea and it helps expand your channel into new areas. Thanks from California for all you do, Minty!
Two corrections: 1. Toht is a misspelling of the German word "Tot". It means "dead" and is pronounced in a way that rhymes with "wrought" (British accent). 2. Magnum P.I. was shown on TV between 1980 and 1988. It did not begin in 1982.
This film is absolutely incredible. Very seldom is a movie created that hits everything so perfectly. The pacing, action, story, and acting are all top notch. They don't make them like this anymore. Fun Fact: The weapon Indiana Jones uses to threaten to blow up the Ark of The Covenant with was not a bazooka. No, it was a Soviet made RPG-7. Fun Fact #2: The RPG-7 was first deployed during the Israeli vs. Conglictim fiyur
Way back then, you could order a Beta cassette version of Raiders of the Lost Ark a few weeks after the movie premiere and host your own cinema experience (if you had a big TV and great sound system). I was lucky enough to have a tech-geek dad and we had a copy of this movie with a cardboard sleeve. One of his mates eventually started a video hire business in Tasmania called "Video City" which was successful enough to prevent Blockbuster from ever gaining ground on my island. The movie studios stopped releasing video versions soon thereafter, hence the huge delay between cinema and home releases. $0.02
@@Tazza81 Ha! Video City! Fun fact (I believe) ... Christine Lincoln sang the female part of the jingle and it was recorded at Spectangle Studios in North Hobart by Nick Armstrong.
Having living in that period of time, Raiders wasn't released on home video till December of '83. It was released theatrically in summer of '82; I'm confused by the few weeks statement. I see you're in a different country so you're story is different.
@@Schush I was only 11 at the time, but dad (and some others) had been involved with commercial video since the Umatic days (mostly corporate training videos), and when Beta was a new thing, some cinema releases were nearly (very nearly) sync'd with video distribution, but only to a select group of customers. It is the only movie of any noteworthiness that he got early. He also got one of the first Yamaha DX-7 synthesizers which he rented to Richard Clayderman during his Australian tour and eventually gave to me. He was a resourceful bloke ... I believe this all happened before "home video" was a thing.
Speaking of Chip and Dale: Rescue Rangers, in the movie, Dale cancelled the series after he signed on to appear in his own solo spin-off: Double 'O Dale. Unlike Tom Selleck, his spin-off was cancelled after the pilot flopped. Another fact is that it was based on the prototype version of Darkwing Duck.
FYI; I grew up with this on BETA. I watched it over and over. There is a part at the end where the newly stored ark in the warehouse starts to burn through the box it is in and it makes a noise like WOAHWOAHWOAHWOOOOAHWOAH like an electric humming. I have not been able to find this ending since I lost that tape in the late 90s.
@@lordcantiismyname HAHAHAH no. I watched this hundreds of times on many different TV sets as a kid, it was part of the movie and is not shown in any ending I can find now. Waiting for a link
And in the end, it's the DIRECTOR who REALLY gets the girl. Spielberg got Kate Capshaw and Cameron got the girl from Titanic, Suzy Amis (the granddaughter of Rose).. but he went back to the other girl he dated from his movies, Linda Hamilton.
One of the reason Raiders is so good is it is a streamlined movie. Indy's side kicks come and go here and there, but he's the common thread throughout. Note how in Raiders, Marion ends up separated from Indy so he can adventure on his own some more. The later movies become more and more an ensemble cast culminating in Crystal Skull where he had way, way too many people with him in the last third of the movie. That just doesn't work, and I hope in the new Indy it's about Indiana Jones as the core with a much smaller ensemble. But I have my doubts and concerns considering this is now coming from Disney.
sort of the same thing in later Die Hard movies, you get less of Holly (by the third one she's mentioned only in passing and left hanging on the (phone) line. By the 4th and 5th films, his kids are featured
I'd say he's still the common thread throughout Last Crusade. I mean yeah by the film's end, he's with his dad, Marcus and Sallah, but he's the one driving the story.
Interestingly, Spielberg reused the whole "villain receives enlightenment from creepy otherworldly being then dies horribly" is reused in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
The Marvel Aadaptation which I just sealed up yesterday in a bag, has a few changed scenes. Toht goes off the cliff, no face-melting. Lucky for him. Indy removes Forrestals body from spikes. German mechanic struck by Marion, not chopped up by propeller blades ( comics were for kids, then ). Many sequences removed for short format, but extended scene of Indy lashed to a periscope. Also, promotions for Marvels upcoming 1982 Indiana Jones monthly comic initially advertised as Raiders: Insert Adventure Name Here ( I forget title )
This sounds like a great movie too. Only a few changes but the same movie and style. It would be great as a animated movie or something. Now I want to read that script. Edit: And I found the first draft of Raiders with the Samurai! So many great ideas in it.
i remember how starwars, indiana jones, willow and labyrinth influenced my childhood. When i learned a bit more about the people behind the scenes, i was surprised to learn the same guy worked on those movies.
It was nominated for best picture for the 1982 Oscar's. Sadly, it did not win. It is a little ironic, though. Raiders lost to Reds. Ironic because most people have never heard of Reds, but almost everyone knows Raiders.
Raiders of the Lost Ark is one of those rare movies that are so good they can't be "rebooted"🥰👍
God., I hope they don’t try… they’ll ruin it….
@@ddr_darkhorse I agree
@@ddr_darkhorse you know I actually came up with my own concept for an adventure story
You put it so well that I have nothing to reply but Bravo!
But that won't stop Disney from trying.😊
Tom Selleck is a fun actor with a lot of charisma, but he doesn't exude danger like Ford does. I love that Indiana in the first film is an anti-hero and shows real brutality at times. My daughter was legitimately scared of him (but also drawn to him) when she watched the first film. THAT is what Indiana was lacking in the sequels, where he became increasingly buffoonish.
I also MUCH prefer the title "Raiders of the Lost Ark, as it makes clear that Indy is one of the raiders as well.
Agreed, and the anti-hero image was aided by the fact "Han shot first" in the original Star Wars. Too bad Lucas felt compelled to water this down.
@@Rev03FFL I think it also screws up Han's character arch by not having him shoot first. Even in real life if someone was point a gun in your face you have the right to shoot them. So it wasn't like a "murder" exactly.
Yes, brutality and also a bit of a rogue. He had an affair with Marion when she was underage, he basically was in his 20's and Marion was like 14 or 15.
agreed. cant imagine Raiders without Harrison anymore than I can imaging Quigley Down Under without Selleck. Both great actors but have totally different characteristics within their acting styles.
@@raymondjamesrivera Yeah, that's the ONLY element from the film I don't really like. Again, it is minor since it's only during Indy and Marion's first dialogue scene together and she never explicitly says she was in her teens other than "I was a child! I was in love" and Indy was in his 20's when he first harbored feelings for her, but it's still an outdated minor part of the film considering how underage affairs is frowned upon since the #MeToo Movement. I'm sure if Lawrence Kasdan were to write Raiders today, he wouldn't have had Marion be a teenager when Indy started to show romantic attraction toward her.
Yes! It will always be "Raiders of the Lost Ark" just like the original Star Wars film will always be known as "Star Wars" not "A New Hope."
@meekat911...I agree , most young people don't get it or know what were talking about lol
This is the way.
I refuse to add "Indiana Jones and" to the beginning of "Raiders", and "A New Hope" after "Star Wars", and it annoys the hell out of me when people do this.
However, to be fair, "Episode IV A New Hope" _was_ officially added to the title of "Star Wars", so someone referring to it as such is more acceptable than anyone who calls this movie "Indiana Jones and The Raiders of the Lost Ark" since that prefix was _never_ added to this movie's title.
@@WmTRiker I get your point about it being officially added, and there was a time I would have maybe signed on, but let's be honest. The rat and GL have gone back and pooched so many things that I think at this point everybody who's old enough is in pure headcanon/legends territory.
It'll always be "star wars", it'll always be "raiders", and Han always shot first.
(Though I have to admit, I rather like e.t.s species being added to the SW universe. Both for the fanboy side, and it's kind of a nice idea. )
@@blackc1479 Keep in mind that SW got the subtitle _before_ the rat got hold of it. They added that when they decided to make a sequel ("Empire Strikes Back"). In fact, according to Wikipedia, it first got the subtitle in the 1979 book _The Art of Star Wars._
My point is that SW has had the subtitle almost its entire "life", whereas Raiders has _never_ officially had the prefix. Same with the original "Rambo" movie ("First Blood"). People add the character's name to the title to link it with the sequels even though that has never been an official title.
And, no, Han did _not_ shoot first as Greedo never did shoot. Han's the _only one_ who got off a shot.😆
I may be in the minority but I think the released version is almost a perfect movie. I'm glad they didn't go with the original script version and since a lot of the scenes were put in other Indy movies, I think we still got to see the best parts of the og script
I'd agree with that. Stuffing too many ideas into one movie is how you get Rise of Skywalker. Another movie where there was a cut scene, that despite it being a good scene, I'm glad it didn't make the final movie was Alien. The original movie had a scene where the alien was building a hive. No where near as big as in Aliens, but still the same idea. In my opinion, that was much better held back for the second movie.
One of the Greatest of all time; it's pretty perfect as made!
It's a pretty damn good movie.
You aren't in the minority.
It’s impeccable
The idol in the final version of the movie was actually built with moving eyes, but sadly most of the shots where you could see them got cut.
However, you can still see it move its eyes to look at Indy while he is making his way towards it if you pay a lot of attention
One thing I clearly remember from seeing this as a kid was just how damn loud Indy's gun was, especially during the fight in Marion's bar. That has to be one of the loudest handguns in the history of cinema.
Hey, man! This is a GREAT idea for the start of a new type of series on here. You should keep this idea going! You could call it “Original Vision” or something, and do it for a myriad of movies that evolved over time from their original concept. If you decide to continue this concept, can I make a suggestion? Do Star Wars next? The differences between the original “Starkiller” script and what we got on screen in 77 are a stark contrast! The original script opened with Anakin Skywalker in the desert.
Seriously though, don’t abandon this show format! It’s great!
Hey man get a life
good idea, cyler is a loser.
I hope Minty seriously takes your request because that would be AWESOME! 📢🎯👍
Agreed! I really liked this!
Actually it might be a good idea for an anthology series.
There are many movies that went through a lot of changes before making it to the final cut.
I found it interesting that so much from Temple Of Doom originally appeared in the Raiders first draft. So much stuff that I'm a little surprised Kasdan didn't get a writing credit for Temple Of Doom.
I’ve read the original first draft and there’s some details you forgot to mention. In the Cairo fight sequence, instead of taking the basket with Marion inside, the Nazis immediately just dump her in the back of a Chevy and Indiana pursues after the truck riding on a camel until the Nazis make a quick switch and put Marion into a Ford automobile in an attempt to fool Indy, but Indy notices the switch and pursues after the new vehicle into the desert. The Ford then disappears behind a hill and when it comes out Indy shoots the tires and it causes the vehicle to fall off a cliff and explode. Then later on when Indy discovers Marion alive, tied up in the Nazis’ command tent, she reveals the Nazis did another switch in between driving behind the hill.
Also, Marcus never accompanied Indy to the meeting with the government agents. As soon as Indy meets them, he leaves. So he was going to be a much more minor character. And during the meeting, the government officials reveal other ancient religious artifacts Hitler is pursuing in addition to the Ark such as the Spear of Destiny.
During the escape from the plane via life raft sequence, there’s a kindly old bespectacled lady, whose actually a Nazi spy that steals the other half of the Medallion, only for it to be revealed after Indy’s escape, he had the piece the whole time taped to his back.
Also, another thing you forgot to mention of Toht’s (Belzig) original death is he rode in the same staff car as Gobler and died with him when Indy rammed his car off the road and over the cliff.
And Dietrich’s original name was Schliemann and he was the one pursuing Indy and Marion through the mine shaft.
Those are just some details I thought worth bringing up. But still a good video covering the differences between the first draft and the final film. I’m even impressed you managed to find the storyboards of the original Shanghai sequence. I’ve only seen the one with Tengu Hok (4:27 - 4:31), but never the whole sequence itself. So, seeing the storyboards of what the sequence would’ve looked like was very fascinating.
In the time period this movie was set in, submarines traveled faster on the surface, than underwater. Since it was pre-WW2, nobody was going to be shooting at the submarine. So they had no reason to be traveling at periscope depth.
As a 14 yo kid I said, "hitching a ride on a submarine?!?" made no sense. The movie is so great, that it develops a bank of suspension of disbelief.
Yes, I'm no expert about this but I know submarines back then pre-nuclear only had a very limited range underwater because they had to use electric batteries whereas on the surface they could use diesel and go much faster and further.
It's been many years since I read it, but in the novel it did submerge. Indy used his whip to lash himself to the periscope to keep from being stranded or drowning. It still seemed implausible that it wouldn't have submerged under periscope depth but that was how it was written in the novel.
@@themange99 "in the novel" based on the film's screenplay, the novel didn't come first but film novelisations tend to include stuff that's not in the actual film.
Dave Stevens, creator of The Rocketeer, did some of the early storyboard work on Raiders. Some of his panels are shown here.
One of the biggest problems is the tendency to introduce a new important character in every scene and then totally forget about it -it was extremely wise to write all those characters down into one or two as they did.
Minimize the number of characters and don't have characters who look alike.
@@theman4884 that’s funny because two actors in this movie each play two different roles
Exactly what's wrong with Crystal Skull, far too many characters
The only sad thing about this masterful classic is the realization that we’re never going to see anything of its caliber ever again.
I think Ford was perfect for this film but I have no doubt Selleck would’ve been just as amazing. Great job Minty and thank for calling it by it’s original title, just like you did for Star Wars. You’re an old school hero. 👍
Peter Coyote could have been good too.
He's awesome in a bomb that's actually pretty good RUNAWAY
I agree that the actor who starred in "Quigley Down Under" would have made a good "Indy."
How about Don Knotts?
@@BenWillyums The Shakiest Gun in the West?
I first saw this movie in the theaters when it came out; I had no idea what the plot was, and assumed the "ark" was Noah's Ark. Fortunately I was dating a Jewish gal at the time and she explained to me what the Ark of the Covenant was. Still love ya Julianne!
Someone didn't take much notice of the film they were watching, it's explained by Indy in the film, too busy canoodling with ur gf I'm guessing.
How old were you when you first saw it?
You were old enough to date but could not follow the plot of a movie that clearly explains what the Ark was, and was straightforward in its presentation? Um.... Okkk
@@hisdivineshadow8263 haha I already picked him up on that one, I think he was just trying to boast that he had a gf or make out he had special insider knowledge cos he happened to know someone Jewish when it's not necessary considering Harrison spends a whole scene explaining what the ark is so my conclusion is he had no gf and Julianne is a concoction.
If I had Rick Sanchez tech I'd be straight off to a universe where I could watch this version of Raiders. Great video Minty
Just watched this last night. Holds up 100% , always will
Greatest movie of all time
Love these alt version of movies. Keep'em coming.
Love the Atari 2600 video game sound track
I would agree with you on the original ending. I think the ending that they used in the end was WAY better
Those storyboards for the first half of the movie were done by Dave Stevens who then went on to create The Rocketeer
minty you are the greatest man i love watching your breakdowns of all the things i grew up with and loved as a child its almost like you bring each one back to life for each episode of your show love it man
Love You Minty. ❤💯🙏🐐
The first film I ever saw with a post credit scene had Steven Spielberg as an executive producer. It was the 1985 film Young Sherlock Holmes.
Spoilers for a nearly 40 year old movie.
In the film, a young Sherlock is attending an English boarding school where he meets a young (not yet Doctor) John Watson. The villain of the piece is revealed to be one of their teachers. After the credits have finished, there is a scene of a carriage traveling through a snow covered countryside until it stops at an inn. A figure gets out of the carriage and goes inside and is revealed as the villainous teacher. We see him sign the register as..... Moriarity.
Young Doctors in Love did it in 1982 (sort of).
@@theman4884 The Silencers from 1966 was the first, as far as I know.
My first was "Adventures in Babysitting" with the one guy still on the tower
The actor who played Moriarty, Antony Higgins, payed one of the German officers in Raiders.
The 1922 John Barrymore "SHERLOCK HOLMES" (a remake and expansion of the 1916 film with William Gillette, based on Gillette's own 1899 stage play) adds a new prologue where we see Holmes & Watson IN COLLEGE together, before Watson ever went into the army, and Holmes, out of curiosity, goes to meet Professor Moriarty, whose obvious criminality inspires him to follow the career path of being a consulting detective. When I saw this film not long ago, it struck me that "YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES" had to have taken some inspiration from it. As it stands, I like the Barrymore film more (though it pales in comparison to the Gillette film).
Hi Minty. I loved the way you started this: "Began a franchise of 3 amazing movies. Uh, 4, um 5, um, yeah, 3 amazing movies." Spot on. That script version sounded interesting but I'm glad we got the version we have. I have all 4 movies and have watched 3 of them many times and I doubt I will bother buying number 5. 😁🖖
SAW IT THE DAY IT CAME OUT IN KC,MO !!! & IN THE VERY SAME THEATER WE SAW THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK & HANDS DOWN A REALLY GOOD MOVIE, HARRISON FORD DID ALL TOGETHER 6 GREAT FRANCHISE MOVIES THE WHOLE CAST & WRITERS & CREW MADE GLITTER & GOLD THE 1980s WERE A FINE TIME TO GROW UP !!!
Harrison Ford was casted perfectly and so was Marion and everyone else down to the spider monkey..so cute❣️ Thanks for putting this awesome video together. 🙏🏻👍
Great summary! Interesting seeing what ideas ended up being used in Temple of Doom.
Minty, you didn't mention the fact that Tom Selleck dressed as Indy and did an Indiana Jones homage on an episode Magnum P.I.
So glad they went with the version we got.
If anyone is interested, there's also a script reading of Indiana Jones and The Monkey King here on CZcams. I don't remember the channel name, but it's easy to find. There are parts of it that just completely insane. It does try to pack in way too many characters, etc, but there's no refrigerator scene. Lol.
Can’t believe the third film we got was almost completely different.
I love your "well, the show is over! I'm going to dive out of the shot and roll credits!" move
Did you notice Harrison Ford's verbal flub early in the film? Alfred Molina's character is named Satipo. Ford says "Adios, Sapito".
I happen to have one of the crew copies of the original screenplay that I purchased a few years ago. It is really amazing to see the differences between what was in the script and then what was in the movie.
Great video! Thanks for this... learned so many new things... after 40+ years! My MOST favorite movie, out of a host of FAVORITE films!
So glad you reference Chip N' Dale (R-R-R-R-Rescue Rangers!!!); as soon as the opening of the vid had Tom Selleck as Indy thats the first thing I wanted to see!!
Thank you so much for this. I really enjoyed it and if I am not mistaken the storyboards were done by Dave Stevens who created the original Rocketeer comics.
I loved Tom Selleck as Magnum PI, but he couldn't have fleshed out Indiana Jones the way Harrison Ford did.
Everything worked out great for both actors...as if controlled by fate, or the Ark, or something.
I can totally see WHY they originally chose Selleck; but yeah, Ford was just born for it.
Great use of music. This is one of your best videos. I learned new stuff. The original script had stuff for three films. You should do the original Ghostbusters script. It's a mad'un.
The Chip'n'Dale blokes...they knew.
It definitely sounds like too many characters and "side quests" for it to have spent enough time developing the main characters and establishing the core locations. Still, it might have been good and Tom Selleck might have given us a wonderful interpretation of Indy. What we did get, however, was cinematic gold!
Minty: 'Raiders of the Lost Ark is, without a doubt, the greatest adventure movie of all time."
Me: Not sure about *the* greatest, but I'd agree that it's still *one of* the greatest. 😀
It is because it's also a historical, religious, adventure, pulp fiction, comedy, romance, horror movie. It hits every note. The best movie Hollywood could make in 70 years.
What a fascinating video! It's funny how much of that would be used in Temple of Doom. I had never heard that before.
Back to the Future, The Shining, and now the 1st Indiana Jones movie had a Lost Version
All 3 SW movies had different script versions as well as Jaws 2
@@williamwilkinson6665 Really?
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 ....Empire has the famous cut wampa scene that would have changed the flow of the Hoth story line. I'm guessing they had to make the ATAT attack longer since the wampa scenes failed ..
In Jedi Gary Kurtz wanted it to ba a darker ending and not go with the Luke and Leia are brother and sister theme...the original idea was to have Leia becoming Queen and Luke going off to find new Jedi to train...
Aso the ewoks were originally going to be wookies ....But Kurtz and Lucas had a falling out and it is said that Lucas chsnged things to sell more toys and wanted the more happy ending as we got ..Also the opening would have taken place on Mustafar and we see Vader's lair , and finally there were 2 Death Stars being constructed in the original script..
Other SW channels have done a series on this I just can't remember which one.
And the original star wars was originally called the Adventures of Luke StarKiller and the script went through a number of changes and has serveral deleted scenes .
The most interesting original idea was that Han Solo was originally going be like a green skinned lizard guy
@@williamwilkinson6665 I never knew that until now
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 You aren't alone
I love the "Raiders that could have been." I really enjoy seeing these episodes that show what could have taking place if different decisions had been made.
A couple other interesting details from earlier versions of the script: It was originally made more clear that when Indiana returns to Marion's bar, it isn't to save her but to steal the headpiece, and he just happens to run into the bad guys and ends up saving Marion. Also, in the final scene, Marion can't resist opening her eyes and looking at the ark, so when the dust settles and Indy finally opens his eyes, he finds Marion has turned into a burnt skeleton.
Ok. I’ve read the drafts of Raiders and that last part with Marion’s death never happened. What really happened was Marion was tied up in the Tabernacle and as it’s burning from the powers of the Ark, Indy goes in and rescues her and together, they escape with the Ark in a mine cart and pursued by Nazis.
I think you’re getting confused with the biblical story of Lot’s wife.
A few years ago I read an interview with an academy award winning script writer. His first piece of advice is to stop explaining so much. If you find a place to more low key explain things, that's fine. But stop filling scenes that explain everything.
Harrison Ford was very lucky that the "Type cast demon never caught him.
Some will see him in a movie " Hey that guy was Han Solo or " Hey That guy was the blade runner in Blade Runner" or " hey that's Indiana Jones !!!"
It does not matter Ford continues to be whoever he wants.
That was done on purpose. Ford took different roles on purpose to not be typecast after the fame of Star Wars.
You probably already know that Tom Sellek did do an episode on Magnum P I. titled "Legend of the Lost Art". So, in a way, he DID get to play the "Indiana Jones" part after all.
Indeed he did - though JUST BARELY (originally, the series was to have ended after 7 seasons; Legend of the Lost Art was in the 8th) 📺
But I didn't know about it until now
Great video Minty - one of ur best yet I reckon! But you do adore the subject matter so that brought out ur best. Lots of great info and it's really interesting to see the changes that occurred! Cheers mate.
That scene where they explain the ark to the cia guys is probably my most favorite scene in 99% of movies
Well, to be fair Kevin Smith cried when he watched both parts of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, so this probably touched him too.
I was a kid when this came out and loved it. But as with all new movies, it was a blockbuster but hadn't reached iconic status yet. I remember liking King Solomon's Mines with Richard Chamberlain and a young Sharon Stone just as much. The same actor that plays Sallah is in it as well except in King Solomon's Mines he's a baddy.
"It belongs in a museum!"
Me:"So do you!"
Great video, but a huge missed opportunity to end this one with an end-credit scene :p
Boring story: My brother has a display cabinet with different beer steins, mugs, and goblets, and tucked in the back there's a replica of the Holy Grail from Temple of Doom. When people come over for the first time, he challenges them to look closely and choose which one they would drink from, then tells them "You choose wisely" or "You chose poorly" depending on whether or not they chose the Grail.
Most people choose wrong, but EVERYONE recognizes the Grail once it's pointed out. One friend spotted the Grail and even said "This is the cup of a carpenter."
"Holy Grail from Temple of Doom"?
Um... the Grail was from Last Crusade. *But,* I wouldn't call the story boring. 🙂
@@BennyLlama39 Ah crap, you're right! Well, at least I remember the quotes.
@@Morgil27 My bad!
Fantastic video, so fun and informative. Well done, Minty. These video essays you're doing are excellent.
this video is fantastically cool, being a big Indie fan that i am it was really cool to learn about the orginal script even though it wasnt as good as what we actually got :)
Thanks for the great Australian take as per usual, Minty.
Love your vids a tons.
You chose ... wisely.
I'm glad that they were able to take one script and turn it into TWO great movies
A flawless classic! 😃
I love this video!.. thank you for all your hard work on this one and always….
Minty, thanks so much for these videos. They just make me....happy. 🍻
One of my favorite movies ever
Best episode ever ❤
The BEST character ever.
I wasn’t expecting that… not the facts, but you saying “it belongs in a museum!” That was perfect and so funny I’m still laughing about it
Perfect impression too!!❤
Adore the suspenseful music!!!
Three amazing movies. I mean four. I mean five. Two amazing movies.
This is good but I was getting confused with the visuals and your audio as to what was the movie and what was the intended movie. Maybe have some sort of split screen that shows what 'really' happened and what the initial script was?
But I LOVE this idea and it helps expand your channel into new areas.
Thanks from California for all you do, Minty!
Great ep....more of these types of formats please Minty!
Legend has it that Australians are able to pronounce the letter "R" at the end of their syllables. It remains a legend to this day.
Spielberg's Raiders preference would work. Raiders of the temple of doom, Raiders on the/their last crusade...
Two corrections:
1. Toht is a misspelling of the German word "Tot". It means "dead" and is pronounced in a way that rhymes with "wrought" (British accent).
2. Magnum P.I. was shown on TV between 1980 and 1988. It did not begin in 1982.
This film is absolutely incredible. Very seldom is a movie created that hits everything so perfectly. The pacing, action, story, and acting are all top notch. They don't make them like this anymore.
Fun Fact: The weapon Indiana Jones uses to threaten to blow up the Ark of The Covenant with was not a bazooka. No, it was a Soviet made RPG-7.
Fun Fact #2: The RPG-7 was first deployed during the Israeli vs. Conglictim fiyur
Thank you for this. I’m a huge INDY fan and I learned new information… *WOW!!!*
Bravo! So well done.
Way back then, you could order a Beta cassette version of Raiders of the Lost Ark a few weeks after the movie premiere and host your own cinema experience (if you had a big TV and great sound system). I was lucky enough to have a tech-geek dad and we had a copy of this movie with a cardboard sleeve. One of his mates eventually started a video hire business in Tasmania called "Video City" which was successful enough to prevent Blockbuster from ever gaining ground on my island. The movie studios stopped releasing video versions soon thereafter, hence the huge delay between cinema and home releases. $0.02
Good times! Where do you go?
@@Tazza81 Ha! Video City! Fun fact (I believe) ... Christine Lincoln sang the female part of the jingle and it was recorded at Spectangle Studios in North Hobart by Nick Armstrong.
Having living in that period of time, Raiders wasn't released on home video till December of '83. It was released theatrically in summer of '82; I'm confused by the few weeks statement. I see you're in a different country so you're story is different.
@@Schush I was only 11 at the time, but dad (and some others) had been involved with commercial video since the Umatic days (mostly corporate training videos), and when Beta was a new thing, some cinema releases were nearly (very nearly) sync'd with video distribution, but only to a select group of customers. It is the only movie of any noteworthiness that he got early. He also got one of the first Yamaha DX-7 synthesizers which he rented to Richard Clayderman during his Australian tour and eventually gave to me. He was a resourceful bloke ... I believe this all happened before "home video" was a thing.
Speaking of Chip and Dale: Rescue Rangers, in the movie, Dale cancelled the series after he signed on to appear in his own solo spin-off: Double 'O Dale. Unlike Tom Selleck, his spin-off was cancelled after the pilot flopped. Another fact is that it was based on the prototype version of Darkwing Duck.
Im glad you are honest when it comes to good movies and bad movies.
FYI; I grew up with this on BETA. I watched it over and over. There is a part at the end where the newly stored ark in the warehouse starts to burn through the box it is in and it makes a noise like WOAHWOAHWOAHWOOOOAHWOAH like an electric humming. I have not been able to find this ending since I lost that tape in the late 90s.
I don't recall watching it and it being any other way.
@@turboL67 cant find it online please link?
That may have just been your tv set? My cousin's TV didn't like some noises/frequencies and would make an electric hum over the intended sound
@@lordcantiismyname HAHAHAH no. I watched this hundreds of times on many different TV sets as a kid, it was part of the movie and is not shown in any ending I can find now. Waiting for a link
@@lordcantiismyname I also specifically said, it BURNS THROUGH THE BOX.
The movie was set in 1936 but ends in The Pentagon, which wasn't even started until Sept. 11, 1941. That's a goof that I'll never be able to use!
And in the end, it's the DIRECTOR who REALLY gets the girl. Spielberg got Kate Capshaw and Cameron got the girl from Titanic, Suzy Amis (the granddaughter of Rose).. but he went back to the other girl he dated from his movies, Linda Hamilton.
Minty filming while in the bath, movie memorabilia even on the bathroom wall I like it.
One of the reason Raiders is so good is it is a streamlined movie. Indy's side kicks come and go here and there, but he's the common thread throughout. Note how in Raiders, Marion ends up separated from Indy so he can adventure on his own some more. The later movies become more and more an ensemble cast culminating in Crystal Skull where he had way, way too many people with him in the last third of the movie. That just doesn't work, and I hope in the new Indy it's about Indiana Jones as the core with a much smaller ensemble. But I have my doubts and concerns considering this is now coming from Disney.
sort of the same thing in later Die Hard movies, you get less of Holly (by the third one she's mentioned only in passing and left hanging on the (phone) line. By the 4th and 5th films, his kids are featured
I'd say he's still the common thread throughout Last Crusade. I mean yeah by the film's end, he's with his dad, Marcus and Sallah, but he's the one driving the story.
Interestingly, Spielberg reused the whole "villain receives enlightenment from creepy otherworldly being then dies horribly" is reused in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
2 amazing movies.
I should’ve seen this coming,
I guess elements weren’t scrapped from the original draft after all!
The Marvel Aadaptation which I just sealed up yesterday in a bag, has a few changed scenes. Toht goes off the cliff, no face-melting. Lucky for him. Indy removes Forrestals body from spikes. German mechanic struck by Marion, not chopped up by propeller blades ( comics were for kids, then ). Many sequences removed for short format, but extended scene of Indy lashed to a periscope. Also, promotions for Marvels upcoming 1982 Indiana Jones monthly comic initially advertised as Raiders: Insert Adventure Name Here ( I forget title )
Piss off grifter
The MinTS! Great show, thx from Arizona Dude.
"It's not the years honey, it's the mileage".
I think Selleck would have made a pretty good Indy.
Educational video! Learned new stuff about one of my favorite movies. 👍🏻
Magnum P.I. debuted in December 1980. About six months before my family moved to Hawai'i.
Good morning Minty!!!❤
Actually, he was going to be called Nevada Smith, but Lucas found that name had been used in a Steve McQueen movie, so he changed it then.
This sounds like a great movie too. Only a few changes but the same movie and style. It would be great as a animated movie or something. Now I want to read that script. Edit: And I found the first draft of Raiders with the Samurai! So many great ideas in it.
i remember how starwars, indiana jones, willow and labyrinth influenced my childhood. When i learned a bit more about the people behind the scenes, i was surprised to learn the same guy worked on those movies.
I never knew about all this. Cool.
One of the best movies of all time!
It was nominated for best picture for the 1982 Oscar's. Sadly, it did not win.
It is a little ironic, though. Raiders lost to Reds. Ironic because most people have never heard of Reds, but almost everyone knows Raiders.
"Indy tries to hijack the jet..." -In the movie it was a propeller plane.
Thanks Minty, I now know why Temple of Doom just didn't hold up, the movie was full of thrown out story lines from Raiders.
OUTSTANDING!!