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- The first of Jesus' apostles, guardian of the gates of Paradise, founder of the Christian Church, the first pope in history… Peter is a key figure of the Christian religion. Yet, there remain many unsolved questions regarding his incredible life.
How did he really die? Where was he buried? Why did this Saint have such an important place in the life of Jesus of Nazareth and the powers he was said to have? Today, there's an interesting twist to the mysteries that surround Saint Peter. Two large archaeological sites in Rome and Israel have unearthed unexpected discoveries, shaking up Christianity's long-held beliefs.
Based on recent excavations and ongoing research, this documentary shows us the latest findings on Saint Peter and his place of burial. Enough to overturn the legends and mysteries that surround the Prince of the Apostles.
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I’ve done the Scavi Tour. It’s breathtaking. They sent us down there with an archaeologist, there were only 7 of us.
Me too. I loved it. Visited more necropilis but this one is truely intriguing. I wonder how much of the former racetrack of Nero is still buried there.
So have I
Absolutely amazing tour
Wow, that sounds wonderful. I would have loved to do that.
Lucky you. 🙂
Good for you
me too, incerdible experience. St.Peter pray for US.
Very interesting, but the image of the emperor described as Constantine is actually Justinian :)
I noticed that also. Not too careful there. Hmm ;)
Yes
Gabriel Santamaria, I am always skeptical about documentaries. People here on youtube seem to believe in anything. Your comment is important to demonstrate that one has to be alert.
Spot on!
The structures they built were so solid with phenomenal detail. There is a serious issue with modern technology that our structures today can't compare.
Well we can build structures like that we just don't.
Most of what we build now is designed for a specific purpose. It's far more function over form.
We build stuff to perform a function. We don't build stuff to honor and commemorate, to truly celebrate. Not like they used to it at any rate
Moronic comment.
@C L really?
Funny the Taj mahal was considered one of the 7 wonders of the world. I don't think that's considered a modern structure by any stretch of the imagination.
I get the impression you probably never actually been to St Peter's basilica or some of the truly spectacular works of architecture you can find in Europe or Asia.
I'm sorry friend but the ignorance here is your own
@C L They are absolutely not. They could not duplicate the pyramids. Anything from the late 1800, early 1900s are barely still standing. Buildings built today will not be standing in thousands of years. They are lucky they can build a car these days to last 10-15 years. Everything is done with cheap parts and cheap labor. No quality anymore.
So if you don't like my comment then move along and troll elsewhere because it's staying.
@@toddrobbins4608 exactly. We could very well build a structure to last for ages, but why should we spend all that money and time for a building, of wich we don't know, if we still need it in such a long time?
In very special cases we do, by the way. Just look up "Svalbard Global Seed Vault". A really interesting structure with a very long term function.
We are capable of far more, then some people do believe. We just spend our resources differently, not necessarily better in many cases.
Despite an unremarkable beginning as the video progressed it began to hold my interest more and more and i am glad to say that it proved so absorbing and interesting programme,Well done.
St peter,pray for us❤
The Bible says to pray to Jesus directly.
@@studentoftheword6115 Clearly a neo-protestant making a strawman about the catholic church's stance on the "intercession of saints". smh
Fascinating historical insights! The journey of the Vatican Obelisk and the mysteries surrounding St. Peter's tomb add layers to the rich history of Rome and the Vatican.
"CHRISTIANISM" really?
Makes me seriously question the accuracy of the rest of the programme - from the very first sentence.
Exactly! Literacy, especially "AI", or narrations on these vids is lacking and poor, sometimes, at best. Also, seemingly one sided on occation.
Interesting documentary. One little thing though: when Emperor Constantine is mentioned, Emperor Justinian is actually shown...
The leaps are indeed breathtaking.
That Vatican Obelisk was originally in Karnack in Egypt but was moved to the Circus Maximus in the 1st Centry. It was then moved to the Vatican in 1587
Yes they removed from original sights to establish proclamation of the lands stolen. None of the obelisks belong to the Vatican none.
And the obelisk is also one of the influence of paganism. Just like the catholic church who has hundreds of "christianized donctrines" from the pagans.
It was moved to the square in 1587, however it had been in the circus since it was brought from Karnak.
Cleopatra gave three obelisks to Rome and had them transported to Alexandria. Only one made it to Rome- the one that eventually ended up at the Vatican. The other two sat at the docks in Alexandria for centuries until the French took one for Paris, then promptly lost it when the ship sank. The British took the remaining obelisk for London and it is now known as Cleopatra's Needle and stands on the Embankment in London. Ironically, the heiroglyphs on it's sides tell a story of a god who was born of a virgin, died and was raised from the dead after three days to reside among the stars. The god's name was Osiris and we know him as the star constellation Orion.
@@acampbell8614 thanks for these details.
The bones can be both in Peters basilica and in other old
Churches. There is a tradition in the catholic church to embed bones and relics of saints in altars. It doesnt mean that the entire skeleton are there, just a small piece of relic will do.
Where did the Catholic church get this demonic practice of burying bones under churches? It's DISGUSTING
Oh yes! Thank you for the historical reminder.
@@luminousem763a lot of people don't know.
All Catholic Churches have a relic embedded in the altar.
@@DeezNailz Protestants believe in predestination and salvation by faith alone. I think both are heretical. “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn”. What they think. Half of them seem to think we kill young children, drink their blood and use their skin to make hosts. Heck, half of them think Trump is the second coming.
Saints aren't "worshiped," they are "venerated." For being a documentary on a key Christian figure, their familiarity with actual Christian terminology is disappointingly lacking.
They also said Peter betrayed Jesus 🙄
Agreed. It's more for SENSATIONALISM than for accuracy.
Right? He didn't betray- he denied knowing him.@@VangelisFilms
Absolutely: if you call yourself Christian and believe in the Resurrection, then yes, saints can intercede for you.
Where is that? Paul’s letters, Hebrews, Revelation.
@@VangelisFilmsand then repented three times
There really should not be any controversy here. The bones under St Peter's are likely the real bones of the first Pope. The bones found in the other church are likely Peter's also. The explanation is easy. Constantine's mother, St. Helena, encouraged excavation throughout the empire. It was her doing that the birthplace of Christ was determined as well as the place of crucifixion and the tomb. It would have been easy for her to find St. Peter's tomb as certainly local Christians kept the memory alive. It is likely at least some bones were removed from the tomb when Constantine built the first St. Peter's basilica. The original altar is still there, directly under the current altar at St. Peter's basilica. It makes sense therefore that the current altar is directly above the original tomb, as Constantine would not have built St. Peter's basilica there had he not found the original tomb and put the altar directly above it.
PETER WOULD NOT EVER BEEN MADE A POPE
Oh my goodness! Clever deduction, yes!
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The video forgot about St. Helena
@@TheElizabethashby READ MATTHEW 16:18
I thought that it is Good Friday I would learn something more about the Popes and how it works. Happy Easter!
i'm also here watching in 2024 because it's good friday
Pope Urban II could have had part of the bones moved to another church to assure he had an insurance policy against any usurper. That the terra cotta jar also has the names of the next three popes also leads me to believe this may have been in his mind.
"Jesus left the synagogue and went to Simon’s house. Simon’s mother-in-law was very sick. She had a high fever. They asked Jesus to do something to help her. 39 He stood very close to her and ordered the sickness to go away. The sickness left her, and she got up and began serving them. Luke 4:38-40
A MIRACLE like we see today
St Thomas Cathedral Basilica Chennai Indi s also built on Relics of St Thomas called as Patron saint of India.. St Thomas bones preserved in 4 churches in south India ,St Thomas came to India in 52 Ad and was martyred in 72 AD
I visited the Church there he is said to have founded, in Kerala. There is an old Jewish population there as well.
@@Madmen604
Yeah, the Cochin Jews.
Though a lot of them have now immigrated to Israel and other developed nations and the remaining ones are mostly in Kottayam District nowadays.
@@ultron3693 I never met any though. Fascinating.
Perhaps, but that still predates Catholicism by about 250 years!!
An interesting fact I learned is that St. Thomas might be Jesus’ twin brother. “Tomos” (might be spelled wrong l) means twin in Aramaic, the language the first Christian documents were written. When translated to Greek they were written the same way and then when translated to Latin it changed to Tomas because they thought it was a name. The writing of Thomas speck of him and Jesus looking similar. The story of Thomas did not fit the virgin birth narrative so they were taken away from the main bible and Thomas was labeled as doubting Thomas.
The presence of the supposed relics of St. Peter in 2 churches-- in the Vatican and in a chapel some kilometers away-- does not necessarily question the authenticity of the one in the Vatican. It has been the custom of the Church to distribute fragments of the bones of various saints. It has also been a custom of the Church to bury relics of the saints and martyrs in the altar.
There engravings and writings on the tomb, indicating it is Peters grave site. You have understate there is oral and written tradition in the first 5 centuries of the Church. Protestant divisions did not occur until the 13th century. Now there have always been false teachers and heretics inside and outside the Church. Judas was but the first of millions of schismatics and heretics in Church history
NECROMANCY IS SIN!
Peter was married and never went to rome. He was an Apostle to the Jews
@georgeo785 Then why doesn't Christianity rule in Israel?
Because you're blaspheming.
All Catholic Churches have a relic.
Although this is an interesting documentary, it's a ridiculous debate. Even if you had a box from the right time period saying "Peter, the First Pope" it would be impossible to determine whose bones were inside. Today you can find the names of celebrities scrawled all over different objects but that doesn't mean those objects belong to those celebrities (or are even vaguely connected to them - they can just be a fan's handwriting). Peter was a huge celebrity in antiquity, and a huge fixation of a hyper-religious population, so there's no telling what was done with his stuff or his body. He could have even been buried in a different country and an early Christian raided his grave, stole his bones and bought them to Rome to start a new church with. For all we know, all of his stuff was taken and buried with other people as sacred objects.
More, importantly, archeologists should all know this is a pointless discussion. Archeology can only ascertain the traces of what still physically exists. Things like physiology and pathology of a person can leave traces in their bones (and even traces of how they lived), but not their identity - you can only say there's supporting evidence of someone who fits certain parameters. Furthermore, lots of evidence has been lost or destroyed over the years for many different reasons, so you can't say that absence of evidence is evidence of absence, either. Saying "we're not 100% sure whatsisname was here 2000 years ago" like that means anything is stupid too, because you can never be sure about someone's whereabouts that long ago. Even records of where someone died very publicly with a whole crowd watching (like Caesar's assassination or Jesus's crucifixion) could themselves have been fabricated at the time or later, so you can only say "our sources say this". I mean, seriously.
In any case, religion of any kind is all about faith, so don't start complaining now about wanting "evidence" to back it up.
Its based on faith.
The part about Jesus' death is in the bible, so it is beyond mere folklore!
@@yosef8060 Eh, I’m treating the bible like a contemporary primary source for the sake of argument, in which case plenty of mistakes can get made by people recounting events later on. My point is that the archeological evidence is never going to be that specific. And of course, if you’re basing your reasoning on faith, then the archeological evidence is irrelevant anyway.
@@13minutestomidnight true
You make very good points that I agree with.
This documentary ended strangely. It seems like it was cutoff in the way that I would expect a Part 2 to follow.
Indeed.
Yeah I thought the same
Agreed.
Yes - inconclusive. However the proposition that Jesus would elevate Peter to the status of a prince is totally unbiblical.
And 27:15. Intead of "...Peter is not", the voice in off starts over the lady's voice.
This documentary is actually rather like a tabloid newspaper. Many of the comments are contrived to give sensational conclusions that are inaccurate and cast doubt on the authenticity of some of their other documentaries. Peter didn't betray Jesus, he denied knowing him, that was all. HIs humanity was shown as his courage let him down when he was afraid. Much of the tradition isn't essential to the integrity of the Catholic church as is often the case.
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verb 1. state that one refuses to admit the truth or existence of. LOL
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Peter was married and never went to rome. He was an Apostle to the Jews. roman emperor constantine started catholicism around 325AD mixing roman tradition and pagan idolatry from babylon and Christianity. The result is a man made cult
@@georgeo785 very true Peter was married
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Helen Bond mentions @29:17 that there is complete silence of the bible if Peter was in rome. But there is, in the greeting at the end of the first epistle: “ The Church here in Babylon, united with you by God’s election, sends you her greeting, and so does my son, Mark” (1 Pet. 5:13, Knox). Babylon is a code word for Rome. It is used that way multiple times in works like the Sibylline Oracles (5:159f), the Apocalypse of Baruch (2:1), and 4 Esdras (3:1). Eusebius Pamphilius, in The Chronicle, composed about A.D. 303, noted that “It is said that Peter’s first epistle, in which he makes mention of Mark, was composed at Rome itself; and that he himself indicates this, referring to the city figuratively as Babylon.” Then there’s early historical reference - Tertullian, in The Demurrer Against the Heretics (A.D. 200), noted of Rome, “How happy is that church . . . where Peter endured a passion like that of the Lord, where Paul was crowned in a death like John’s [referring to John the Baptist, both he and Paul being beheaded].” Protestants admit Paul died in Rome, so the implication from Tertullian is that Peter also must have been there.
In the same book, Tertullian wrote that “this is the way in which the apostolic churches transmit their lists: like the church of the Smyrnaeans, which records that Polycarp was placed there by John; like the church of the Romans, where Clement was ordained by Peter.” This Clement, known as Clement of Rome, later would be the fourth pope. Clement wrote his Letter to the Corinthians perhaps before the year 70, just a few years after Peter and Paul were killed; in it he made reference to Peter ending his life where Paul ended his.
Evidence is evidence and that's evidence
The majority opinion in scholarship is that Peter the Apostle did not write 1 and 2 Peter.
One apocryphal story of St. Peter in Rome was whenever he heard a rooster crowing in the distance, it would cause him to pause and grow reflective. I always loved that story. It makes the city of Rome seem more real. I like to think it is a true memory of the real man that has survived the millennia, although it could have easily taken place in Antioch.
But what about the fact that the Apostle Peter was Jewish? How can he become a Catholic Pope? I find nowhere in the Bible dealing with Peter's conversion prior to his death.
@@sharonwhiteley6510 because of the simple fact that Jesus was also Jewish UT it is only after Jesus's crucifixtion and reserruction that there came to be a new faith the Roman Catholics or Christianity as we now say
@@sharonwhiteley6510 probably missed it because he was using another name at the time.
That's an amazing story I've never heard! It makes Peter himself more human. I've come to pause and grow reflective whenever I heard birds because of their role in keeping me grounded in faith. They're like messengers from God, their song captivates you. Birdsong was used in a Gregorian Chant Solitudes album, this is the true reason for the association. There's a lot of pre-Christian symbolism about birds that became adopted by the early Church and the various cultures in it.
@@rambrosius7006 Well written, you have a very good understanding of the subject.
I wrote a paper on this very subject in college. I found it very, very difficult to find evidence of any kind.
Good for you! you are correct and will not find ANY evidence because there is none! it was simon MAGUS not simon peter that went to rome!. Jesus told his apostales where to go. Jesus told Peter to go to the Jews, not the gentiles. So the bible is correct not the papacy!
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Well Peter was married and never went to rome. He was an Apostle to the Jews. roman emperor constantine started catholicism around 325AD mixing roman tradition and pagan idolatry from babylon and Christianity. The result is a man made cult
I suppose you are going against the historical consensus. Peter died in Rome. So I’m not sure how he would have never been there if he literally got crucified there.
Trust in the Lord who said 'upon this rock I will build my church.'. He build the Church on St. Peter literally.
When they were talking about Constantine @ 41:00, isn't that a mosaic of Justinian I?
Oh, you are so transparent. Please care of your own, not ours. Peace be with you🙏
There's a whole lot of people with their heads up their keesters in this video.
Folks it doesn't make one iota of difference how or where Peter died or where he was entombed.
What matters isn't how Peter died it's how he lived. Merry Christmas
Most people ,who are not brainwashed from childhood, recognize religions as a total scam run by charlatans and scoundrels. E;G. Catholicism, Scientology, Mormonism, Protestantism, Bushism etc. etc. Benny Hinn, Billy Graham, Franklin Graham, Jim and Tammy Baker , Oral Roberts, et al are pretty representative of these money grubbers.
As a non-Catholic, I completely agree. You have to remember, Catholicism has been very attached to their worldly items connected to God ever since the beginning. The bones are another physical symbol of the Pope’s connection to God, and another tool (one of many) used by those in power (again, one of many) to retain their power. Humans in general are very fond of their physical manifestations and, more importantly, reminders of power.
@@psychologymajorptsd62 well I can't speak for what Catholics are or not attached to. I can point out that without Catholicism there wouldn't be Christianity.
It was Catholicism that protected and nurtured the faith through all those dark years of persecution.
For the first couple hundred years Christianity was not a very popular idea at all.
But they held on despite incredible odds and survived. Because of that we have scripture. We have a Bible. We have all of that preserved down through history thanks to the Catholic Church.
Honestly when you look throughout the history they managed to survive events that are quite astounding.
So even though you may not agree with all of the tenants of the Catholic Church just try to be a little more generous when you think about them. Because without them whatever brand of Christianity you practice probably wouldn't exist.
Just food for thought
Pope John 23rd came after Pius Xll not Paul 6th
I did not know before that Vircengentorix of Arverni was also imprisoned for 6 years there by emperor Julius Caesar, just as Saint Peter and Saint Paul then later were placed there by emperor Nero.
Winston, is that you narrating Bible docs from the Continental Hotel???
We don't need any such relics etc. for power and glory but only Jesus Christ is Power & of all glory over all! PRAISE THE LORD!
Relics, icons, crucifixes, etc all help us draw closer to Him. They aren’t essential, but they are helpful to many.
Has this been translated using Google Translate? Christianism is not the same as Christianity (I am sure the Pope would be surprised to find that he is the head of Christianism), and there is a difference between Martyr and Martyrdom. Really surprising in a professionally produced piece.
Sadly I can confirm it's not a mistake on their end, it's part of a new progressive movement to "align" Christianity with the other religion, compare to Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judaism.
@@jeremias-serus Wow - thanks, I didn't know that. I thought Christianism meant a fundamentalist attitude similar to Islamism. Or will Islam be replaced, too? Frankly, I don't care either way, as I am an atheist. I just love words.
It's just the same... for the first 1500 years,. There was only one Christian Church, the Catholic church. Being Christian that time means being Catholic.
@@randomvideos3187 Wow you really need to learn your history if you think there was only one form of Christianity for 1500 years.
@@nakinilerak We do not recognise anyone like the Pope in Christianity.
WE only know Jesus Christ the head of the church.
Historical evidence for Peter being a pope, or ever even visited Rome, is pretty sparse. He's tradition's first pope, not history's.
@@drjanitor3747 Jesus is head of the Church.
@@helives2630 You are correct. Regardless if you are Catholic or Protestant, Jesus is head of the Church. He will ALWAYS be head of the Church.
Peter would have never allowed himself to be called pope, since it means Father, and Jesus said to call no man father. We have ONE Father.
@@helives2630 and Peter is his Vicar
@@ringthelivingbell saint Stephen called the pharisees fathers in acts 7:2
wow ty
reliques or bones of saints were shared in parts and given to different churches
May i ask why, and for what purpose?
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Gadfly here 🙁. I believe it is vital to up hold our history. You can’t worship the past and ignore the future. You must look for knowledge constantly 😶🌫️🥶
In actual fact, Pope Paul VI's predessor was Pope John XXIII. Officially Romans stopped being called 'Latins' in the year of Rome's founding, 753 BC, though being used as an epithet for their language stuck. It's the first time I've ever heard Christianity referred to as 'Christianism'. Most dictionaries and Wikipedia prefer 'Christianity'.
It lost a bit of its credibility with the Pius Xll to Paul Vl mistake….
Always found it odd the church's elevation of St Peter when it appears that St Paul had a larger role. At least Paul definitely reached Rome.
I've always thought that it was an accident of history that more of St. Peter's role in the early church hasn't come down to us.
@@dadtheripper I suppose it's because Jesus called him the rock. Yet much of the doctrine is Pauline and Paul was a Roman citizen and travelled everywhere establishing early churches.
Shows you politics was at work even then.
The only one a sant. In all three religions is Abraham. Muslim,Jewish, Catholic. Wonder Why?
@@nickbarton3191 Jesus actually called him a pebble, which was probably somewhat of a rebuke to Peter's pride. The rock (petra) was the truth of the statement made by Peter in that verse about who Jesus was. Peter was not listed as the first Pope until the third century when someone claimed that he had been the bishop of Rome. There is no evidence that Peter ever went to Rome and the title is probably the result of Rome attempting to claim dominance over the church during a period when the seat of the church was in Jerusalem. Peter's location after the middle of Acts is unknown and it is likely that this was seized upon a few hundred years after he died to concoct the story.
Only one problem... Peter was not in Rome, much less Italy. He was to witness to the Jews in Jerusalem and the surrounding areas.
Acts 18:2 And he found a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, *recently come from Italy* with his wife Priscilla, because *Claudius had commanded all the Jews to leave Rome.* And he went to see them,
So, you was there?
nand - Hmmm... no content on your CZcams channel. That is typical of trolls and shills, so which are you?
How can Timeline present
The picture of Constantine on the video showed is Justinian II. Not Constantine.
Imagination can lead people wherever!
Pre conception will lend a crooked path leading to what you expect. Question everything in every case. There is only one truth...everything else is perspective.
Now as then!
Imagination took us out of the trees, and gave us everything that we have today. It even put us on the moon. I know that you are poking fun at religion, but let's not belittle the value of imagination.
@@theobserver9131 How do you reach the conclusion I'm poking fun as you say. You seem to be doing more of that calling religion imaginary.... Do you work for DISNEY?
@@2brokeToBeWoke sorry, I confused you for someone with a brain. Carry-on.
"I don't know what part of the body they belonged to, but they were clearly human."
Possibly the best one sentence example of the willing blindness and absolute idiocy required to believe in the absurd BS of organized religions I have ever heard. Amazing.
It insults your intelligence for it's Wisdom!🥰🥰🥰
My immediate thoughts, as well! How do you know if they're clearly human??
Is the Jay off the inbetweeners at 15:15 aka (James Buckley) 😂
"Christianism" isn't a word, but the producer's use of it is instructive.
What I wonder is was Peter crucified in Rome? Nero had St Paul beheaded at the time he was in Rome the last time he was there. Was Peter in Rome at that same time or was he at a different place like Jerusalem or Antioch? It is an interesting documentary.
I do have another question. I do not ask that to undermine anyones knowledge and/or opinion.
How can someone know, if bones are human, without knowing, wich part of the body they belong to, as that monk early in that documentary said he does?
According to the Holy Bible, Saint Peter flees the city of Rome and has a vision of Jesus Christ going to Rome. Jesus tells him that He is going to be crucified. Saint Peter understands this to mean that He is being crucified in Rome, so he returned to his persecutors, but insisted on being crucified upside down because he is not worthy to be crucified like his Lord and Savior. It's in the "Acts of the Apostles" which is one of the books of the New Testament in the Holy Bible!!
@@jeffreybayer4386 Where in "Acts of the Apostles"? I thought I had heard somewhere that Peter was crucified upside down. I just didn't know where.
stop this nonsense...
nobody knows how paul, peter and the other apostles died.
there are no historical records, no historical proofs and no archeological findings to back up these legends and myths!
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Wonder how long before Ancient Aliens will say Peter was an ET?
Jesus was the 👽.
That's why Spielberg had ET die and get resurrected. Look at him standing in the ambulance. LOL
JESUS CHRIST IS THE WHITE MAN'S BUDDHA.
Thanks for posting.
yes I believe that St Peter did come to Rome, moreover I am sure that the christians that went to pray and pay homage on St Peters' tomb would not have mistaken it for a pagan tumb. And the fact that after that lots of people called their children Peter testifies to the fact that Saint Peter really did come to Rome and really was a very special person for the christians of the time. "Peter" was not a name, it was a word that meant ROCK. There are no precedents of people called "Rock". Naturally christians that were aware of the existence of an ex fisherman very poor who had came from Palestine, who was a jew, not a real roman and therefore "second class" would not have set up a shrine unless he indeed had been a special person starting from the fact that he spent years elbow to elbow with our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans used to cremate their dead. The deceased poor and the slaves were usually thrown in the rubish, there was a large area in which romans dumped anything that they wanted to throw away, including the bodies of the dead and unwanted infants. The custom of burying the dead was jewish not roman! If any the romans made urns of the ashes of the dead.
Any pregnant woman who met Saint Peter and believed in his message and of the work of Jesus Christ, would have considered heresy to call her child Jesus for it was to equivail the child to God or to the son of God but would have surely considered calling her child Peter (Rock) who had had the priviledge of spending a few years elbow to elbow with Saint Peter.
Non biblical beliefs
Why would a small container with shards of the bones of St Peter mean that the tomb under the Vatican didn’t contain St Peter’s bones? Don’t these people know that it is the norm for the Catholic Church to take small pieces of the bones of Saints and place them in churches all over the world? And yet these saints also have permanent tombs that contain their remains.
Why do Catholics keep bones of the dead ?
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From the death of Saint Peter a lot of children were called Peter, which in ancient Greek meant "Tomb Stone" I lived and studied for 8 years in Greece and my teacher of litterature was Greek 100% and she had also qualifications for ancient greek and she tought us that in the old greek version of the Bible and Gospels, the world that we translate as Peter or Rock is not any rock, is "grave rock" grave stone". She was a truly outstanding teacher and I am sure that she tought us the right thing because she was Orthodox and the topic of the lesson was the correct translation of the Bible, and eventually the shism between catholic and orthodox church and books that were written about it at the time and the historical context.
A brief google search would show that you either misunderstood, or your teacher is completely wrong.
‘Scattered upon the Earth’
It would be interesting to get dna if possible from the bones. Compare to skeletons from that period found in judea
Odd, if Jesus was to walk the earth today, anyone thinks He would appreciate seeing crosses around the necks of His devotees?
Was Jesus materialistic? How come the Vatican even owns its own bank?
Jesus Christ was everything the Vatican is not!
I don't think it's just the Catholics, the whole damn religion is pretty much anti-Jesus. I think the alleged message of Jesus is awesome. It would be nice if his followers were too.
@@drjanitor3747 Sure, a filthy rich organization like Vatican telling the world is against poverty and hunger but then do not do a thing pratical to help! Hypocrisy at its finest.
You seem to get it
If such a man existed and came back today they would put him in jail or an insane asylum immediately, he would be considered a threat to all world governments and banks.
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Well it can't be much of a secret if there's a story on CZcams about it.
Why is Constantine illustrated with a mosaic from Ravenna representing much later emperor Justinian? There are great representations of Constantine that could have been used...
41:21 Mosaic image, which is repeatedly referred as Emperor Constantine is in fact an image of the Justinian I, Byzantine emperor, around two hundred years after the Constantine. It's quite strange that the creators of this documentary didn't realize such a significant mistake🤨
There is nothing wrong with there being two reliquaries. The relics of saints have often been distributed widely. The relics in bothe these reliiquaries can easily be from the same person. There's not an entire skeleton present between both. In other words there's nothing controversial about the two reliquaries.
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exactly, they did it to many and they know that.
@@J_a_s_o_n True
The problem is that Peter was married and never went to rome. He was an Apostle to the Jews. The emperor constantine started catholicism around 325AD. Mixing tradition and pagan idolatry from babylon and Christianity. The result is a man made cult
He wasn’t the “Pope”. He was the bishop of Rome. One of several bishops at the time. It wasn’t until some time later when one of them decided they were in charge of the whole church.
Correct! It wasn’t until Phocas in 606AD that he confirmed the Bishop of Rome to be, Universal Bishop. Rome was the ecclesiastical half of Rome while Constantinople was the military half.
He was the pope
@@thebigalow2 there was no such thing.
@@joelapp there was his name was peter
@@thebigalow2 nice to know you are utterly ignorant of church history. The title did not exist back then. There were 7 bishops all equal in power. There was no “pope” until the Empire of Rome decided he should be in charge.
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wait.. why are these religious scholars not aware that judgement and forgiveness can ONLY be granted from the creator? The Assignment to Judge (2 Corinthians 5:10)has been given to Jesus from his father. Why don't they know this its literally in the books written by Paul
Funny how (even in this very informative documentary!) Jesus is still shown as the only blue eyed blond haired person as oppose to all the black haired dark eyed people that surround him. It's like seeing a white tiger within a group of black panthers.... and most people, even today, take it as an accurate representation of Jesus.
I suspect that is in large part due to Roman Catholic idolitry where images of him are everywhere. Jesus was of course an outdoor working scruffy Jewish carpenter for a couple of decades before he started teaching. He possibly still made woodwork while he was teaching to provide for his family. He was the eldest child and his mother was under his financial care by Jewish law. (Same reason he instructed John to take over that role when he was dying.) Some of the apostles likewise continued their trade to provide food and income while teaching after the ascension. His hands would likely have been scarred long before the cross by chisels and the like. And of course being Jewish he would have had short hair and a long beard, probably brown or black hair and brown eyes. It's specificly stated he wasn't anything special to look at physically.
@@allanmck If Jesus had direct siblings it would have been against Jewish law to give his mother to the Apostle John. And if you knew your Bible, you would understand how those “brothers and sisters” of Jesus are not his direct siblings.
That's not blonde and that's not blue eyes either 😂
@@MGR1900so you don't believe that Mary had other children?
Pontiff was a Pagan position in Rome's pantheon. Julius Caesar had been a Pontiff.
It comes from the Latin root - pon - which means bridge.
The Pontiff was the "bridge" between man and the Gods.
Now, when was the head of the Catholic Church titled "Pontiff" is a good question.
I suspect it would have been after Constantine made Catholicism the official religion of Rome.
So much of Christianity, especially Western Christianity, incorporates pagan elements to make the faith more relatable so it makes sense
@@Awakeningspirit20 Yep, a lot.
Easter is a Celtic Goddess of fertility. They kept her name for the holiday. Also kept symbols of fertility --- bunnies and eggs.
Christmas tree is also a Celtic symbol of the promise of life and spring -- it is EVERGREEN. Along with Holly and mistletoe. Kissing under the mistletoe was a Celtic custom during a wedding.
Halloween also has Pagan origins.
Gift giving during Christmas comes from the Roman Saturnalia holiday.
That is interesting. *I watched a program that explained that each Vatican leader has many titles…but ( Pope ) is not a title held by Roman Catholics. But they let the public and media call him that.
The Title (Pope) I believe they said is actually the title of the Greek Orthodox leader of the Church.
@@mmblue3986 I have to disagree. I was raised Catholic, and the nuns and priests called the head guy -- Pope, and Pontiff.
I question the credentials of the guy who made that program you watched. It does match reality.
@@craigkdillon Please look it up…he has 8 titles and Pope is not one of them.
Of the many things quite incorrect that the Catholic Church promotes as true is that an inverted cross is evil. When crucifixion is given as a sentence it was quite common that inverted crosses were a common sign posted or painted by they related to the criminal begging the Romans to use an inverted cross method of execution because, as St. Peter knew, it is much faster and much less agonizing than an upright crucifixion.
the whole inquiry to proof or disproof theology bores me to death ........ many questions make sense.
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Anyone ever wonder if St. Peter or any of the apostles would welcome them if seen in person?
I Peter 5:13 & II Peter 1:13-14 & 3:1 -- he himself says I am going to die -- both letters are looking like farewell message from Peter who were at Babylon...
Jesus is the the answer to our salvation not some relic they try to look for in the ground for the church is a spiritual place where two all more gather togethere for the worship of christ ❤
Peter was a rabbit! Duh! South Park did a historically factual cartoon on this matter. 😂
This is hilarious. 😂
Not only he is the first pope, he is also the OG "The Rock"
Lost soul!
If it’s the one true church why doesn’t Jesus return there.
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It likely was Apocalyptic Christians that set some of the fires that burned so much of Rome in the time of Nero.
I take more heed of the teachings of Jesus himself and the Apostle Paul.
The Roman Empire didn’t fall it just turned into the Catholic Church . Every pope might as well be an Emperor
More like the ghost of the Roman Empire.
Not so.
They maintained separate jurisdictions for much of the last 2000 years.
Roman empire continued way over the pope in Constantinople
Kind of a silly comparison. The Catholic Church doesn’t conquer land or enslave millions of people. Yes, they have tremendous wealth, but pretending it’s the same as a countrys wealth is disingenuous. Most of it is made up of artifacts, and the cash they do operate with feeds/clothes/educates millions of people around the world as well as supports the church infrastructure (lotta priests and nuns that don’t make any money, schools, maintenance, etc. )
One of the most moronic, untrue hot takes
Peter was not the first Pontifex Maximus. That was Julius Caesar.
The Pontiff today had his authority given to his predecessor popes by the Pontiff Constantine, just as it was prophesied in the book of Revelation.
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Is it possible to trace the bloodline of Peter? Maybe there's a great-great-great grandchild that shares his DNA then test it for comparison?
That would be like looking for a paper needle in the ocean.
@@psychologymajorptsd62 Yeah. It's just that I came across with those 'geneaological dna,' contact tracing... Naah, just wondering. 😀
And make him/her Pope
@@diandoxlee7346 if you are a believer you can ask the Holy Spirit.
Acc tradition Peter tho married had no issue but an adopted son ...so his DNA died with him unless he was NAUGHTY...like BerGOGlio...
Why are only shards of bones found? What happened to the rest of the bones? 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
In ancient times bones of Saints were priceless, so they separated them and send to different churches in the world.
@@anycyclopedia did the Apostles or Christ do this?
Where did this DEMONIC culture come from ?
Not the bible...
It's been 2000 years, a complete skeleton would be more suspicious than fragments
Ultimately if we don’t read find accept understand submit recognize see the truth we are doomed? Hmm man made conditional love … fine doc although just another allotted sorts of details that thrive for an interested party of people in need of affirmation in a conscience ness of uncertain awareness ❤
Well is there a part two or just a bad editing ending?
Why is this age restricted?!?
because children shouldn't have spiritual hoaxes pushed on them
‘Peter was a fisherman, so he was probably sturdy’… again, this is about the level of ‘proof’ supporting the entire catholic theory that Peter ever even came to Rome, let alone that these are his bones 😂
The Vatican did a test on those bones and found they are 2000 years old and belongs to a 60-year-old man, but it isn't confirmed whether it's St. Peter's or not
@@anycyclopedia so the Vatican tested some bones they say they found - very important bones on which not only the foundations of the basilica are built on, but the entire Catholic Church. Hardly a surprise that they say it’s evidence & proof… that’s what they’ve done for 2000 years ‘look at this old bit of bone… it’s Jesus’ toe, now give us some money’.
@@balke7935 The thing is that the Vatican didn't want those bones to be in power. The bones were found almost 2000 years after Papacy began, until then no one needed Peter's bones to convince the authority of the Pope. The Catholic church does not need those bones to convince people it's the true church.
@@anycyclopedia finding them is extra substantiation though, surely you can see that. Apart from that, there isn’t even any evidence that Peter the humble fisherman went from Galilee to Rome, let alone set up shop there.
@@balke7935 Church Father Irenaeus (2nd century) wrote in one of his books that Peter founded the Church in Rome. If you don't want to belive you don't want to but the truth is truth
Keeping the bones of an ancient apostel of the early church as holy relics shows me how depravend this so called church obsessed with materiality has become.
15:15 is that Jay off the inbetweeners ?
How can the Catholic church claim Peter, an Apostle of JESUS, when both were Jewish? I have asked this before and treated either as an atheist or totally insane. To me, it's a very simple question. The Apostles and JESUS were Jewish.
When did Peter become Catholic? As far as Peter denying JESUS 3 times, the Bible states Peter was forgiven by CHRIST when He arose from the Tomb, before His ascension to Heaven to sit at the right hand of GOD.
Grifter Paul, who never actually met Jesus, stole his legacy as a RABBI from his own family and turned it into a cult.
All of the Christ’s Apostles were Jewish.
Jesus Christ was and remains the Jewish Messiah.
Although, He is still denied by the Jews.
Nevertheless; followers of Jesus Christ, even after His death and resurrection would meet in the Jewish Synagogues.
That meeting and preaching was practiced until the Jews themselves declared them as followers of Christ as not Jewish at which point they became known as Christians or followers of Christ. Catholic, which means Universal or all, was adopted and remained used as synonymous with followers of Christ. Catholic and Apostolic refers to the Origins now of the Catholic Church. Decreed and affirmed throughout the conclaves and councils of the early Church and including those up to this time. Christ himself established His Church under the authority of St Peter, His Apostle.
Catholicism is a direct descendant in Faith from the original Jewish believers in Jesus Christ. The Jews remain our older brothers in Faith as the chosen people of God. Peter was the first leader of the Jewish sect that was later to be called Christian and Universal.
I hope this clarification in historical reference and explanation assists you.
@@josephmaxwell5033 no it doesn't, because it's a lie. Christ established nothing, he didn't create any dogma or ritual, he only gave sermons. Jehovah's Witnesses are closer to early Christianity than anyone else in that regard. Paul is the one who created the church as we know it, the early church was coopted by him and his sect grew faster because they baptized as many gentiles as they could. The OG Christians, adherents descended directly from the Apostles themselves, were declared heretics at Nicaea.
@@MrTaxiRob If you will not Listen, then you cannot learn, which makes you stupid. Good Bye!
@@josephmaxwell5033 sorry Your Highness, but I've been listening since I was a child. You haven't provided anything to contradict anything I've said, you only hold fast to what you BELIEVE to be true. I'm done listening to the same old regurgitated trash; history is a series of real events with real consequences, not your fantasies about what you think they meant. There is a sufficient enough lack of evidence for a historical Jesus to begin with, but giving you the benefit of the doubt doesn't even support your case within the confines of belief in his physical existence.
5 Thomas asked him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going; and how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus assured them, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14
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And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
I think he likely did go to Rome. He was caught up in the early persecutions and was crucified. They granted him the wish to be crucified upside down? Maybe on that last one. He was buried in a simple grave. The burial site was kept by the Roman christians. Eventually, after Constantine converted he memorialized Peter.
I was really curious about who the first pope was
Doesn't matter.
It wasn't any of the disciples of Jesus Christ.
@@J_a_s_o_n Exactly because they were all executed by those so called religious leaders
Cannot believe #youtube censors this video.
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@@johncarter1288 What do you think of my surname? It's Jewish, by the way.
@@vickyabramowitz2885 So? Did the hat fit you?
All jokes aside, I do not know you, I only talk by the things that surround me and affect me.
And despise a few control all media / social networks, being jews, does not mean all jews control the media. Sorry but ur not special.
@@vickyabramowitz2885 I think you just ate the troll bait.
@@johncarter1288 What have the Jews got to do with this? Please if you want to truly show your ignorance, lack of education, stupidity and mediocre upbring I would suggest doing your own youtube video of you sitting in the corner with a dunces cap on, rocking backwards and forwards, drooling and eating your own faeces ie another stereotype image......I am sure you would get the likes and attention you deserve.
Can't be the first to cringe every time Constantine's name is illustrated by the repeated and mistaken use of the face of Justinian.
If anyone is looking to anything or anyone other than the person of Jesus Christ for salvation, he is not a Christian.
"I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the father but by me. " John 14:6
Every time they mention Emperor Constantine, they show a mosaic of Emperor Justinian..... Why???
Maybe it's because when you've seen one roman emperor you've seen them all🤣🤣
The authority of the pope does not rely on relics, it is on biblical testimony of Christ directly giving him that authority and the full understanding at the time [church fathers] and in all subsequent ages of what that meant. Decisions need to be made? Take it to Peter ... Gentiles also allowed to be Christians? Take it to Peter ... the chair of authority was clear from the very beginning.
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May I ask, where is this written?
@@Cici-st2yz Papal authority? Matthew 16:18 'You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church.' Later on St. Paul came to Peter as the known head of the Apostles for verification of his assignment to and views concerning the Gentiles. He got it! Point being ... Paul did not go off on his own without aligning himself with the known church authority.
If you I don't chair and clouds give red sometimes rain in a week or sit down on where is it .
That's how much sense your comment makes
@@autumnvickydanny Matthew 16:18 'You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church.' Later on St. Paul came to Peter as the known head of the Apostles for verification of his assignment to and views concerning the Gentiles. He got it! Point being ... Paul did not go off on his own without aligning himself with the known church authority. You can choose to believe what you wish and seek truth if you actually want it. But honesty is painful ... The god in the mirror will never bring you joy or peace.
There are up to 213 bones in a human body, it might well be that both the Vatican and the Santa Maria in Capella church have bones of St Peter.
All guesswork and folk tales
206!
bondage (any sort) is the Devils Game..... Read the words, do not give it power to hold you hostage. God Gave us freedom. Jesus gave us education. So , no idea why people are so clingy to things that is material made or from man.
I thought you wasn't suppose to worship idols