The WORST EGO in Limbus Company
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- It's been a while since I have talked about Project Moon's biggest blunders in terms of EGOs or IDs, and this EGO in particular needs to have more people talking about it, and specifically...calling it terrible, like it deserves.
What do you mean you thought this video was about Lifetime Stew Sinclair?
i mean clearly it about soda, look at the background. you need some soda to survive in that heat.
Im still using lifetime stew, its funny and useful for my teams (NO JOKE)
It's that shrimple
At least Soda's awakening can't kill or stagger your sinners💀💀💀
I can't wait for this video to be immediately invalidated when hong Lu gets a poise healing based ID that increases clash power the same turn it heals an ally during walpirgisnacht
Blud is so pressed he made a PREMIERE to his rant
It’s a really good rant.
@@therealESGOO unrelated but do you think you can mentally prepare for railway 4
@@Thatkid_one sshh let him cook in peace for railway 4
@@therealESGOOhey, are you planning to use an uptie IV edgar gregor, or an uptie III edgar gregor?
I'm asking mostly because on uptie III, edgar gregor takes away 7 sp from one of your allies instead of 5 sp that he would take at uptie IV, so using an uptie III gregor would be worse than using a max uptie gregor
@@Thatkid_one not with the new gregor lmao.
From the thumbnail I predict that the worst EGO is single coin
From Source A, I can infer that the author (ESGOO) wish to convey that one of the E.G.O with a capability to heal is the worst E.G.O ingame. Source A show an E.G.O sihoulette with a healing symbol on the side of the shadow.
This implies that the worst E.G.O ingame can heal you. Therefore, ESGOO message in this source is that Fluid Sack is the worst E.G.O ingame.
(i failed the written exam :(
Nope. It's wingbeat lol
Well that rules out wingbeat
Sinclair not beating the "[On Tails Hit] inflict 7 burn" allegations 😭
just YOU wait until Nclair or any future negative coin sinclair id with burn and a VERY specific burn type like der outis or better AND burn gets buffed AND it becomes meta AND it becomes the new poise, then YOU'll be sorry
but for now yea, it sucks
@@roqui_ come back to this comment once we have more info on Philip sinclair
@@Zawaito no
Counterpoint: Hong Lu gets a magical girl transformation, and that makes it worth it
Crazy how some of the worst egos are liquid related (Lifetime Stew and Soda)
And fluid sac
may I have the ryoshu pfp sauce?
@@eugh2541 None of the fluid sacs are even close to how awful these two are.
@@GoneAngelthey're not even awful at all
@@qazisgone7292 I was going to say that but I don't have the Don one so I wouldn't really know.
You could say this ego is one in a krillion 🦐🦐🦐
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ESGOO you've just invoked the curse, the walpurgis 00 is gonna be a hong lu poise ID... You fool..
Worth
Yuna Hong Lu? Not what I was expecting, looking forward to it nonetheless.
@@user-hr6jb2vz7p Hong Lu Yuna? Hold on man, let's let him cook
@@WiidLover meaning Sinclair is secretly infatuated with Hong Lu in that Mirror World... based
@@user-hr6jb2vz7p Burn + poise 🙏🙏🙏
It's a shame because I love the animation on Hong Lu's Magical Girl Transformation here.
he really went "its krillin time"
Man the S.E.A. Event really is just absolutely cursed huh.
Soda Hong Lu and Ryoshu
Boatworks Sinclair
The horrid grinding from the first few Intervallos.
And of course the tragedy.
I wondered why nobody talked about Boatworks Sinclair until I saw his skill 1 rolled a 6💀 I only have him for the support passive.
@@aegisScale boatworks sinclair is a fun id to use tbh but those number just make me go aeeeeeuueeegghhh????
soda ryoshu is atleast usable, and has a unique animation if you kill.
@@aegisScale His S3 used to give him Tremor Count below 10 tremor, and he was almost useable, S3 into S2 for 10 tremor Count and 4 coin 11 rolling S1 was actually fine, then he got bugfixed and he gives himself tremor potency bruh.
@@rexofired I actually like that he gives himself tremor potentency. When I use him I play the long game of building up something like 8 tremor count, use their S3 to give them 10 tremor potency, then move on to build the rest of their tremor count. Next time I use their S3 the boss now has 20 or so counts of 10 tremor added to whatever they have. Though I will admit, I avoid their S1 like the plague.
Can't wait for poise hong lu to appear out of the nether, just so ESGOO can look in horror that soda becomes 0,1% more useful
Walpurgis poise hong lu for life
Maid id Hong Lu pls
"I have nothing but my sorrow, and I want nothing more. It has been, it still is, faithful to me.
Why should I begrudge it, since during the hours, when my soul crushed the depths of my heart, it was seated there beside me?
O sorrow, I have ended, you see, by respecting you, because I am certain you will never leave me. Ah, I realize it: your beauty lies in the force of your being.
Because I know that on the day of my final agony, you will be there, lying in my sheets, O sorrow, so that you might once again attempt to enter my heart."
Prayer for Loving Soda
@@WhiteHairSupremacyGone Shrimps...
@@awesomehazimex7410Poems of a Shrimp
I can't get over that the corrosion has 5 tremor potency. Hong Lu has no Tremor ID. Why did they have to dip into TWO STATUSES that he can't support.
Most ego have tremor burst for fun... but its only potency on soda? (tremor + poise id in the future?)
@@Judgemental_Bunny We'll Get LCCB Hong Lu tremor/poise ID. Trust. (also yes soda has no tremor burst. just in case you were worried about it having a niche use)
TRUST ME NEW HONG LU TREMOR EGO MEANS NEW TREMOR ID
@@nonsensicalhumanoid sadly I think it’ll be detective hong Lu if anything, but complaining about that is like getting a million dollars instead of a million and five dollars. (Though soda and this new ego share the same slot so soda won’t be used lmao)
I do use Soda Lu in Mirror Dungeons, but never for the healing. It's usually "Oh, I'm about to use an envy resonance effect, and need as much Envy this turn as possible. Time to pull out the worst EGO in the game to make all the others better."
Soup segment incoming
My only source of healing for most of Railway 2 was Soda Hong Lu. Needless to say, my plan became "don't get hit at all" when I realized my poor situation.
ESGOO almost distorting at the mere mention of stew is just keeps getting better 11 minutes and the times stew is mentioned he displays twice as much hate in comparison to the ego of the video lol
You're in my walls?
Aight good luck fighting the rainbow frog for space
You had me fooled; I was 1000% ready for a ten-minute long Stew Segment.
🦐🦐🦐 In shrimp we trust 🦐🦐🦐
YOU CANNOT DENY THE SHRIMP GOSPEL 🛐🦐
can't wait for this playthrough of New Soup Sinclair Bros.
to add insult to injury with soda's ego costs, you need 5 gloom for hong lu's base ego, land of illusion (which reliably refunds spent sanity)
blud really thinks we don't know it's Soda Lu
Or soup clair
@@LTDLetsPlays you fell for his trick.... his ruze.... a pity....
As a Soda Lu defender, I would like to make an “uhm akctually 🤓☝️”
The magical shrimp is not gonna krill you the way the Soup did
One day… My arm has changed
It's definitly Soda Lu, at the very least soupclair heals 10 percent hp while Hong lu only gives 8 hp and only if his ego crits! (Although he is mainly used for SP recovery)
Consider. Soda hong lu has the best animations of any awakening ego. Therefore, it can not be the worst because it has a niche.
The next day, ESGOO woke up to every Hong Lu in their support tab rocking Soda in the Teth slot
yeah but hes so ~cute~ in the shrimp outfit~
I’m glad he remembered the Envy bit, the one legitimate reason to use Soda since it gives Lets Envy teams bring whatever Hong Lu they want
That is something for me to think about since I have a Envy team, and he does have a lot of good IDs.
I have do have plenty of E.G.O.'s I need to get first though.
Thank you ESGOO. I will now uptie 4 soda hong lu.
Thats a nice video, however there is many reasons why it doesnt matters for me,i will name 3.
First is that Hong Lu's ids are above average consistantly,if not one of the best ids,but egos are like below awerage.
Second is you can beat the game as long as you not crippling yourself and reading,if it works,it works.
And third is that my love for Hong Lu is undeniable,i will love all of Hong Lu's egos and ids no matter how bad those are for usual player they are,Praise be Hong Lu.
counterpoint, Suddenly One Day exists, and the fact that this has to be pointed out is telling
I love Soda EGO so much, afterall, surely it will be a part of your Worst Railway team clear where you must use the EGO... it sounds truly entertaining dear Esgoo esquire
It would be funny if the Walpurgis night made Soda Hong Lu usable ,somehow, thanks to the ESGOO curse.
Not only that: Hong Lu's ALL identity aren't meet this EGO need:
Moon : You need Poise when head hit.
Hong Lu : I don't have Poise identity
Moon : You need Tremor when tail hit.
Hong Lu : well, I'm also don't have Tremor identity
Moon : You need Gluttony+Gloom+Envy for activate this EGO
Hong Lu : ALL My identity's skill color only match 1of 3 of them
That straight punch answer was beautiful
Ngl I actually really love when you just rant on about whatever upsets you. This is the peak Limbus content I'm all for
An ego that relies on heads hit that heals? Its gotta be fluid sac
amusing opinion esgoo, unfortunately i am inside your walls with:
First Turn Start of an Encounter: all allies gain 4 Poise Potency and +4 Poise Count.
When activating Pride Absolute Resonance, all allies gain 2 Poise Potency and +2 Poise Count at Combat Start.
dont forget the GOAT ++ upgrade that makes the potency and count gain go to +3 AND makes the activation condition regular degular old Resonance instead of Absolute Resonance, so you dont even need to line up 3 pride skills in a row and can just have 2 period.
I mean if you count mirror dungeon stuff you can run literally anything and have it work with a little luck. We have to operate as if they're in 'normal' conditions until we know more about specific situation. I mean fuck, I've had W-corp BLEED teams because of ego gifts.
Oh! Finally, I can be on time for an ESGOO video!
I thought this would be about 4th Match Flame Yi Sang. While I don't think Soda Lu is *good* by any means, I always thought about Soda Lu as a "Fluid Sac we have at home" and I still use Soda Lu in my envy res teams that include Ting Tang Hong Lu. The current Opportunity Cost for equipping Hong Lu with Soda also isn't really that bad at the moment, It's either Soda or Roseate Desires, neither of which are great. Roseate is very niche in what it can do, and while Soda realistically only either heals HP or SP in negligible amounts that is a lot less niche compared to what Roseate can do. The only thing FMF Yi sang has going for it is that it's a 5 attack weight on a TETH and Slash, and it's going up against Wishing Cairn. Who has a higher floor than fmf's ceiling, has 3 attack weight, and is usable for it's EGO passive alone
We are about to see what is stronger, ESGOO curse or Soda silliness.
sure your point is "valid" but does any other ego in the game have a magical girl transformation? yyyeah.
Soda hongle feels like they forgot the % on the healing, truly impressive
Change all [On Attack End] into [On Hit] effects and suddenly all healing gets multiplied by the effective Attack Weight, which can go as high as 3, becoming a 90 HP (or SP) heal.
Not to say it'll save it by any means, but if we are to explore options that don't involve bringing back the % sign...
Did you just turn British at 7:40 just for one funny?
I respect it, honestly. Having seen your last meme review with Welvader and the others, I find it hilarious you have the same joke meme voice for Heathcliff that I do with my friends. The over-the-top cockney accent sounding like a hooligan
I like the animation, it's shrimple as that
Ok, you have a fair point, and it does make sense
However sailor moon transformation scene
a premier rant. this is gonna be good
Why do i feel addicted to your videos
The Umineko ost in the background,,, thats so awesom,e
Holly hell i love your damn videos so much
I remember you talking about this in the podcast that got wiped... It would be really nice to have rn :(
Hello goo man, this is a bit late but I was thinking about Soda Hong Lu because of this video and I wanted to hear your thoughts about this idea I had to make the EGO better and more interesting. For the awakening, how about making it on hit instead of on attack end? This would make the healing notably better as with no crit it would be 45HP to 2 allies which is still below average but much better than it currently is, and with crit it would be 69HP to 2 allies which is actually quite average (I'd say average health is around 200HP, and Pursuance heals 30% so that'd be 60HP; with excellent HP (around 250HP), it'd be 75HP). However, what I'm interested in is the potential the SP healing would have. It could heal 45SP to 2 allies with no crit and 69SP to 2 allies with crit. Obviously, this is REALLY GOOD and would give this EGO a niche that hasn't been filled by anything else in the game, (relatively) single-target high SP healing. And because of its high SP healing along with its moderate cost, one might be inclined to use this in the beginning of fights to jumpstart their SP economy which would mean that the passive the EGO has would also become better due to a more cohesive design. The best part about all of this is that it's so simple, it's just changing the on attack end to on hit, nothing is drastically changing in what the EGO itself does, it's just effectively making the numbers better in a more roundabout way. Also, we have nothing that gives allies SP on hit so it'll make Soda Hong Lu more unique as well.
As for the corrosion, there's the simple boring idea and the hopefully unlikely idea. The simple idea would be to make the actual power on the EGO better (either change the coin power to be -7 or change the skill power to be 33, both lead to the base becoming an 18 instead of a 10) and change the bind from a 1 to a 2. That's it, boring but it would make the corroded EGO not completely dogshit and instead only slightly dogshit. The more cool and unlikely idea is to not only add the things from the boring idea, but to also add a reversed effect that harms those who are hit instead of healing allies. On tails hit, deal HP damage to target; on heads hit, deal SP damage to target; on crit hit, deal HP and SP damage to target. It's pretty basic, but it would give the corroded EGO some much needed damage or utility and it thematically makes more sense than the current corrosion we have for this EGO.
Appreciate you reading this if you did, I would like to know if I'm healing everyone 10% of my max HP or giving everyone 7 burn.
tldr; SODA❗❗❗
4th Match Flame Yi Sang, TRUST.
Edit: Damn I was wrong...
Imagine being a teth ego yet somehow having less effects than most modern ID skills
Blud rolls worse than most S3s only to inflict a little burn. At least Soupclair can heal (most of the time)
He's really good at kickstarting the Burn team for quick MD runs
Yeah I'd argue both match yi and lantern greg suck far harder
@@TheChiefMoron UT4 Lantern is one of the best EGO for Zwei Gregor so def not worse than Soda Hong Lu
YIPPEE ANOTHER UPLOAD FROM MY FAVCORITE CZcamsR
I really thought it'd be Yi Sang's 4MF because of how BADLY it rolls.
Then I got reminded that Soda Hong Lu exists..
Thanks, very cool ESGOO for making me remember that cursed EGO :)
Lmao was that a Binding of Isaac reference during the lifetime stew segment? Peak.
I like how Lifetime Stew is the EGO version of Mariachi Sinclair. It's objectively bad possibly even the worst but people still love it and or find it funny because of how Sinclair uses it
Or maybe its just me, cause i just love how EGO is such a big deal in this game and its this thing that's supposed to peak your fighting capabilities yet LTS Sinclair completely fumbles using it having to catch his breath and regain his bearings everytime its used
Soupclairs passive is actually pretty good for burn teams though, and it can output decent healing if you get lucky.
Soda Hong Lu is just atrociously bad.
There's one thing this EGO is good for, and it's summoning ESGOO's wrath, manifesting this funny video.
Whelp, now I can't wait too see the 00 Hong Lu ID that's Poise focused for Walpurgis Night.
We've Been Tricked, We've Been Backstabbed and We've Been Quite Possibly, Bamboozled!
not that shrimple is it
Man, imagine after this video Hong Lu gets a poise ID on the upcoming Walpurgisnacht Banner, or even the next 0.5 event just to make Soda crit
I really wasn't epecting to see a Binding of Isaac Reference at 4:20, but here we are. I will become back my Lunacy ESGOO
absolute fucking whiplash having this open in the background during the premiere, and showing a friend some roblox lobotomy corp stuff, and working with opened can of wellcheers
we were like "where the fuck is that music coming from" and i just hear esgoo go "it's soda"
that potential man of ego segment got me fearing for my life
you gave me a headache and took my will to live as I learned this
I'll see you in therapy, Esgoo
I was just talking about this exact topic with my friend yesterday, it popped up during a conversation about how forgettable/unused some ids and ego are and it sat right there next to diecei Yi Sang for us.
I, for one, find a certain beauty in the fact Hong Lu, the man with no bad IDs, got the single worst EGO that reads like a multilayered in-joke. I'm sure he himself appreciates it, too.
I will now use Soda Hong Lu even more just to spite this man. I don't care that it's bad, it gives Hong Lu a Magical Girl Transformation into a shrimp and that's funny to me.
I kinda excited. Im putting my money on Soda Hong Lu because at least soupclair at least has a descent passive if your using ninclair and a burn team while Soda Lu is just really boring. Or if your factoring opportunity cost I could see an argument Tele Faust the EGO i actively forget that I have because its not fluid sac but once Faust gets a good charge id then I imagine it will pop off (although I blame the existence of that ego for why PM has been hesitant to give her any new ones)
Now watch the Esgoo Curse work it's voodoo and then honglu NOT only gets a baller Poise ID, but also an amazing upgrade on Uptie 5.
0:46 Okay, but to be fair, Molar Ishmael is good enough to make up for the rest of it.
A 10-14 Evade is actually extremely useful in the current Canto, because so many enemies can stick down paralyse to force your first evade to roll minimum power.
Prepare an apology form for soda Hong Lu.
Unexpected Happy Maria!
I use it because I love Hong Lu and magical girls transformation
The esgoo curse striked again, we got a double ego banner.
It must be Lifetime stew! No way is my favourite magical shrimp transformation sodaLu!
SODA I WILL ALWAYS LOVE U
Deadass I forgot that Stew and Soda were a thing so I thought you would be talking about 4th Match Yi Sang or something
ok but i like the aoe damage and the funny lil animation :33
Plus he has never wronged me he carried the Ahab fight so hard
i love your enthusiasim about this, i will now never touch soda honglu
I can’t wait for the soda hong Lu buff now that the Goo has talked about it
So excited for uptie 5 when this video becomes obsolete
Thank you ESGOO you made me dispense Soda Hong Lu and even Uptide IV it to
I like how ESGOO Waited for PM to announce who we would get in warpulgisnatch so they wouldnt blindsing his video with them releasing a poise hong lu id
7:40 i just can't get over how he says "absolute giggle" lmao
let's goooo talking about my favourite magical girl ego for 10+ minutes!!! 😆😆😆
Hmm is this... Some short of future predictions shenanigans? Cause I feel strong aura of walpurgist here
Saw this coming after the 50000 soup segments
Well....sounds like a new addition for Refraction Railway 4.
It's left to find some trash Hong Lu ID for walkthrough and we will have content.
"Trash Hong Lu ID" is an oxymoron and we both know it.
The moment I saw the gloom cost I knew the problem, as someone’s been running an Envy Res team since Line 3 dropped, that gloom gen has been a problem, I had to switch Captain Ishmael to Reindeer Ishmael to get that gloom gen
ESGOO, I will offer you one niche counterpoint off the top of my head: Shi Heathcliff and Ishmael, Mirror Dungeon and a Blue Zippo Lighter.
Might still not work out well but if nothing else, it would be a funny experiment for me to try later.
Specifying here as I didn't want to spoil the surprise made revealed not even a second into the video;
So, Shi Heath and Ish. Two IDs that requires >50% HP (>25% in Ishmael's case) to get the most of their kit and (as a certain other video in the community pointed out) has EGOs that can be used to safely drain their health throughout a mirror dungeon run. Of course, keeping them at that state can be a juggle between keeping their health as close to that point as possible and simply hoping whatever might hit them next won't absolutely murder them. This is especially the case if the intent is to try and ignore any EGO gifts that may wind up healing above that point AND we're taking the ramping difficulty of MDH into consideration.
So, say you've calculated what that half-way point to be and you want to "top off" your overworked assassins without going over the halfway point. As mentioned here, a vast majority of healing EGOs heal upon percentage, so if you're already close to 50%, any of those can easily push them over and thus the draining of health starts anew...
ENTER, SODA HONG LU! With a hard limit of 15 HP for the two IDs with the lowest health- assuming you've been keeping everyone else fairly healthy- you won't have to struggle with even further math involving percentiles to ensure that Heath and Ish stays as close to >50% as possible. It's still an inconsistent heal, that's just the reality of the EGO, but since it's just being used to nudge their health a little, it's not an action I would think puts the rest of your sinners at risk. You wouldn't even have to run a team that HAS gloom, as long as you manage to get AN EGO Gift that can give you resources your team normally wouldn't have access to- Blue Zippo Lighter is simply the most notable example I brought up because it ALWAYS gives gloom per turn.
Though to be honest, I don't really want to call this a SERIOUS counterpoint, especially after everything pointed out in this video. It's a niche purpose for an already niche sort of team implementing a niche form of playstyle that can only be achieved in the mirror dungeon. It's an oddball EGO that's nearly vestigial in any other form of content with everything else that's available. Either way, this has been a rant worth watching. This whole thought process of mine probably wouldn't have come up if you hadn't gone over just how absolutely lacking it is.
Funny how the one sinner I hear has the most consistently good IDs somehow managed to get the worst EGO, huh?
I guess at least soda doesn't get your hopes up before setting your team on fire.
Is it really worse than Roseate Desire Ishmael, which has a negative coin awakening and a positive coin corrosion? It applies two defensive current-turn effects, and is an EGO for Ishmael, whose ID speeds tend to be below-average and don't have access to haste (at least this was the case before Maid Ishmael). It also applies bind next turn... but only 3, half of what Snagharpoon, her ZAYIN EGO, applies.
It also competes with Capote, which is actually a really good EGO that applies teamwide wrath damage up (and wrath fragility on corrosion).
1 SP HEAL, not only that but its capped AND RESETS?!?!?
The fact that i sharded soda honglu several days before this video
Bro hated the ego so much that he doesn’t even need an intro, that’s crazy
I personally just find it funny that between Hell's Chicken and the Boatworks event, the on banner event EGO for both were either niche or terrible.
Stew back on its release I could *almost* see a use case when the encounters had less health than sinners by default and were kind of squishy. The clash potential was vexing, but workable.
Soda... Had the clashing potential, sure. But the healing and targets were lackluster and the effects are everywhere and also... Just small.
The tragedy of Soda is that it was an EGO that shined in the way a lucky penny would due to the sheer absence of healing options on its release for sinner teams that didn't center around gloom, lust and Pride.
The only other option at the time was soup. But even that was unreliable given that during those levels, the burn could stagger you out and make you regret using it.
Then fae lantern Sinclair came out.
This EGO has aged about as well as Blade Lineage Sinclair and every other Meursault ID that isn't Blade Lineage Instructor. In that they're technically usable... But there are significantly better options.
Hong lu is getting an edgar family butler poise/haste id, trust
You said that but soda hong lu carried me through railway 2 (it was my only healing ego), therefore making it one of the best ego ever!!l!l
I uh, knew what ego you were going to say. Not going to lie, even as someone who unironically uses the ego on some teams... Yeah, its bad. It's only redeeming quality is its passive and we literally don't have a single mode it has a noticeable impact in. I guess it could of been useful against Erlking heathcliff with how they constantly summoned adds, but the team I was using for the canto didn't have honglu ID in it.
Who knows, maybe one day they'll realize no one is using it anymore and buff it to be more in line with the other ego since it's so obviously below expectation.