5 Reasons Why SBR's Suck (and what you can do about it)
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00:00 Intro
02:08 Feature Partner | Gallowtech
02:26 Reason No.1
05:09 Reason No.2
06:04 Reason No.3
07:23 Reason No.4
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09:20 Reason No.5
11:59 My 90% Rule
13:14 Summary
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One thing that I think really matters: caliber. Many calibers do really well out of a short barrel like .300 blackout or 7.62x39, but then you have their counterparts like 5.56 or 5.45 that do well out of a standard length barrel
5.45x39 is a great caliber for an SBR compared to 5.56 it’s excellent out of a barrel around 12.5 to 10 inches
@@amogoose5638 that’s true, 12.5 is great
Was thinking about getting an sbr in .308 what’s your opinion? Cause the only rifle I have rn is a 16” in 5.56
@@allaansnackbar4269 they are fun, kinda defeats most of the purpose of 308
@@allaansnackbar4269 9inch 300blk rocks 🔥
The thing is, having a pistol allows it to be carried and concealed in a vehicle in states with a concealed pistol license. And because SBR’s are an NFA item you have to deal with all that unconstitutional crap that goes with it
Yep, I spoke on this. It's why using braced pistols made so much sense, despite the braces being very subpar to a stock. But at least for those individuals that live in friendly states and don't cross into unfriendly state lines often, sbr's are still a fine option.
@@armandgun I made my comment before I finished your video. Glad you mentioned it.
Not for long, AFT is already changing its mind on braces and wants you to file it as an NFA item
I live in Connecticut where you can either have a pre-ban that costs as much as a new car, or you can have an "other firearm" which means pistol braced AR's with a front vertical grip, for some reason.
@@EdwardOrnelas and hopefully that’s the catalyst for the Bruen Supreme Court decision to Nuke the entire NFA
Are we gonna talk about how cursed the gun setup in the thumbnail is? Simultaneously loading a belt and a 60 round mag 😭
Thank you for noticing. I try hard to incorporate a cringe element every now and then.
@@armandgun It’s always informative😎
Glad to see some full length content
It’s weekly now buddy
@@armandgun if youre in u.s you must be a stamp collector... If youre in Canada... How the hell do you get mgs?
@@CallofDoobie585 it's nearly impossible for most people, but not entirely so. There are special license allowances that allow ownership of literally anything.
@@TheRealAaronSmith well of course in the states i know whats up... Its canada i don't know much other than they allow short barrels. But magazine restrictions etc. Sounds like its just gamed up for the entirely rich.
the channel is beginning to become more and more based, plus love the fact that he's Canadian and of course lives in Canada 🇨🇦 although still has a seemingly patriotic sense about him, and realizes, when the government is small, the PEOPLE ARE BIG, and that is when things tend to work out best for everyone involved..... except money and power hungry politicians. 😋
He wouldn’t be able to own any of those guns if he lived in Canada
@@ABCXYZ-jw6jy That's incorrect. There are legal ways, it's just VERY difficult in most situations, borderline impossible for most people.
He talks about USpistol brace and SBR rules. He’s obviously in the USA. Canada is banning all that stuff.
@@TheRealAaronSmith I’m pretty sure there’s no legal way for you to own SBR’s in Canada, and there’s no way for you to own ar pistols or what have you.
@@TheRealAaronSmith so basically they’re banned, you just described the US, machine guns here arent banned, but regulated to the point of being banned,
I love this channel, been watching for a while.
You have the most impressive collection I've seen period keep fighting the good fight man your content is gold
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Love the longer platform videos I literally saw one of your shorts like a year ago and it keeps getting better and better thanks for supporting even our 2a rights and the good guys don’t shoot back that’s why we are the target of the silly rules
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SBR's rock. If your target is over 150-200yrds get the guy next to you with an 18'' barrel to bag'em.
ACR SBR with extra 16" barrel to change out for distance when needed
You have the absolute best collection I've ever witnessed. Like that shit is art
I wonder if all of these issues apply as much to the new Sig 227 Fury (6.8mm) system
Pros outweigh the negatives in my opinion, also ballistic issues can be fixed by changing up calbers to get a better pew. say from 556 to 300blk.
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This guy is crazy about guns. And I love it)
I like learning 😌
After this woodworking vid marathon
I totally agree with SBR’s I got one soo many years ago and just haven’t gotten a suppressor for it so I don’t take it to indoor ranges for sure and when someone comes with one and is blasting away and it is soo annoying but all these people think it’s soo cool I’m like it isn’t it basically burns your face.
Best gun channel on CZcams
First statement completely true, I know you’re Canadian but there’s also another thing with the SBR law that people don’t know about is engraving an SBR if so you choose to sell or if you want to keep it with a family member/ friend etc
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What really sucks are states like New York that all SBR's, machine guns and suppressors are illegal. As a matter of fact all of your toys are considered "assault weapons" and can only be in New York if they were registered before the deadline.
you should do a AR platform building tutorial cause that white body one with the elcan on it is honestly super cool.
beautiful collection!
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I like the SIG MCX.
Because if you choose to configure it as a SBR. You can have it shoot .300 Blackout if you want. Which gives its SBR configuration a lot more benefits.
I love the ease of changeability with the MCX platform. Can't wait to get my hands on a spear.
I can't stop drooling over that g28. Dude you got some sweet toys.
What!!!! F that it's that G36/HK91 for me
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Cool to see the doggos! I too, am a firearms fanatic who loves huskies!
Hey I live in the states, Maine. Where we have pretty lax gun laws. And I've always been curious about Canada's laws. Would you consider doing a video breaking down some of the differences or laws you have up there? I know by area it can be complicated, but I didn't think you were allowed to own a AR of any kind. Just really curious. I own a large verity myself. Also I genuinely love your content.
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Canada was an AR "friendly" country from 1977 to 1995, you could hunt with them. In 1995, a new system was put in place that found the AR15 placed into the Restricted catagory, prohibiting it from being used anywhere but an approved range. In may of 2020, Justin Trudeau arbitrarily banned all AR rifles and various others based on how they look. 2 years later, under the guise of a handgun ban (Bill C21) an ammentment was added at the 11th hour to basically ban anything semiauto, centerfire, with a detachable mag. YET with these specifics, they still pushed to ban rifles not qualified for the ban. SKS is a good example.
Justin Trudeau doesn't care about legal owners, he is pushing for full civil disarmament. All without increasing jail.time for criminals, or even speaking about bail reform to keep dangerous criminals in jail.
Liberals will take away your rights, only if you let them.
Alright Canadian laws updated to the time of this comment:
Full autos non starter only gov/businesses
We can own any centerfire semiautomatic which is not banned by name most are by name banned including but not limited to:
AUG
AR
AK
MP5
FAL
G3
AR-18/180
Things we can own (for now)
Type 81
CZ Bren 2
M1 Garand
AR180B (yeah this makes a lot of sense)
Handguns:
Banned
Shotguns:
Same as rifles allowed if not banned by name such as the:
Sagia 12
Spas 12
Things we can own:
Benelli M4 and knockoffs
Now for SBRs any long gun under 18.6" is registered as a "restricted firearm" (handguns used to be here as well) can only be shot at a range and has stricter storage laws.
Mag laws:
Pistols are limited to 10
Rifles to 5 (some of your US AR pistols allow us to have 10 round AR "pistol mags")
Currently the government is trying to ban all semi automatic centerfire firearms with detachable magazines
what brand or sight is that box 📦 showing an IR sight display on it, 🤔 couldn't make out exactly what it said, but it looked pretty amazing.... a small Heat signature sighting system just a little bigger than some closed emitter RDS's??????
another great video from my Brother in Arms and Neighbor to the North🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦👍 Greetings from Washington State
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What‘s the name of that tiny rifle at 11:41? I need one of those! Do you have a review/ vid of that one?
Would LOVE to be able to get a 300blk SBR, but damn this shit get expensive.
I'd much rather have a 20" barrel ar platform with 5.56. Just feels right getting the most bang for my buck in ammo capabilities
I actually talked about that specifically in this video. Reason 5, and also covered it in my "90% rule" section.
16" is good for me. I had one as a patrol rifle for years. I started as 18 year old with a Colt with a 20" barrel, still have it. I'm now 71.
18" is the perfect recipe for me for 5.56 and .308
I never got the point of 5.56s over that sweet spot of about 12", seems to me that as an individual user you may as well just go with a larger caliber if your rifle's already gonna have a full sized battle rifle footprint anyway. Like what actual task does a 20" 5.56 do irl that either a 12" 5.56 or an 18" .308/6.5 wouldn't have done better?
Then you have calibers like 8.6 black and .277 entering the fray to potentially make even battle rifles obsolete if their barrels are longer than a foot or so too. We're quickly getting to a place where there's no technological reason for any rifle to be much bigger than a smg unless it's a literal anti-materiel rifle.
This is exactly why I bought an RDB 20...
M16 power in an M4 size package
Another aspect of the cartridges fired through SBRs is lose of ballistics too. 55gr 5.56 doesn't fly the same coming out of a 12.5 in barrel as it does out 16 in with a 1:7 twist.
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My biggest complaint of sbr's is the atf redefining pistols as sbrs..... And waiting for permission to take them across state lines.
What type suppressors have the steel and Titanium/aluminum in them?
Stamp?!?! Sawzall goes brrrrttttt
Any guns you saw coming at Taccom that your looking forward to?
It's All ok, here in the middle of Texas!
My 10.5 inch .300 BLk with supers or Subs without a can with my Hera arms gen 2 linear comp is so pleasant to shoot it’s not too loud and I Can’t shoot it enough ! My 11.5 inch 5.56 is a monster way too gassy and annoying to shoot but they each have their purpose my 16inch is my battle rifle and I don’t shoot it too often because it’s literally for battle 😅
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How does he have all this in Canada?
1) Agree with you on ATF and the bullshit tax stamp. 2) They are no more or less loud than any other AR, port bark is higher with long barrels and pressure is higher with shorter barrels. Wear Earpro. 3) If you are shooting at the range during daylight, the flash is nothing. If you are shooting professionally than you are using a can, especially on an SBR and flash in the dark is moot. 4) I have a Surefire can with 90k rounds out of it, it has outlive two ARs. My suggestion would be to not buy shit cans. 5) To get a full powder burn with 556, you need a 24" barrel. It is not a tax, it is a tradeoff. For most people the smaller package and increased maneuverability is worth the tradeoff. If you want to get max velocity, get a long barreled AR like the military and police use (oh wait, they don't).
Bro, i really wanna know the name of the stock of The SawKiller, please!!!
Thats why I love my hk 416 very little loss of speed on the ammo, on chronograph I have clocked it up too 2950 fps with 62 grain m855
Well the addition of a gas piston to an AR should under no circumstances increase velocity so I'm assuming it's a 16" barrel?
@@ravenwing199 on 10 .4 inch . Its not the piston but more the dewell bolt carrier design that hk makes, which creates more back pressure. Gas impingement don't have extra spring behind the bolt.
@@ravenwing199 you don't know what your talking bro, hk 416 10.4 inch barrel is a beast
@@survivalgear5058 It's not the Barrel. According to HK the 10.4 should be doing 2600ft/s which is nowhere near 2950. Are you firing hot reloads or light bullets?
Nice bro.
Where did you find that vertical grip for the m203? Been looking forever for one!
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Dam good video there ol- boy... r ol-Arm & Gun....
the more ya know thanks for the info
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Being in that room would be my heaven
Shorties have their place,but in context,muzzle velocity does suffer in certain calibers. I like the compact size but it's a compromise with range. Hey,you can't hump a galil everywhere...
I believe they changed the requirements for sbr now. They ask for barrel lengths different calibers ECT and they have to match paper work. If I'm wrong please correct me I looked into it not long ago and decided it wasn't for me
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Luv this channel
Doesn't everyone?
@@Quarterpounderwithcheeese my wife doesn’t because she knows every time I watch this channel I end up spending money 💰 directly there after lol
Are all of his mags limited to five rounds?
4 out of 5 of those reasons get thrown out with .300 Blackout. Subsonics for super quiet, supersonics for a little more power
As for the laws, yeah you just gotta deal with a pistol brace or sbr it
Is there a set up for the Rattler which doesn’t make it an SBR under the new “law” ?
everything that doesn't meet the length will be considered an SBR technically, under the new law
That’s a good question.
@@shadyp-zv3uf no, remove the brace and your good. It specifically says BRACED firearms..remove it and good to go.
Love that man cave 🎉
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I changed out an AR15 16" barrel for a 14.5" with a faux welded on suppressor. It was horribly loud. It a shooter wasn't hard of hearing to start with, he would be soon.
Try replacing the BCG or just the bolt. Usually overly loud guns are popping off super loud due to this. I had a 11.5 that was super loud with an Aero BCG, thought it was just because it was short but a new bolt (SRC) fixed it.
@Jason Puddy if your bolt is not sealing with proper head space it will be much louder than normal. Could be an issue with the bolt or the barrel.
mirin those wide handguard
No SBR laws in Canada tho right?
I thought yous arnt allowed to have any of this stuff in Canada? How you doing this?
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8:13 my guy just causally has a Lewis machine gun laying around😭
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Nice
I am a retired Auto Tech, 36 years. I also spent 8 more in the Air Force and Coast Guard (decorated). Proud of my work, service, and help to people over the years. BUT, I could never afford all the guns you have, nor would I want to. At 67yo I do not expect to last long (but I am preped) and my only goal is to take as many with me as possible. Then they will take my stuff just like they will take yours.
One undisputed fact that all others pail in reference is the fact it is considered illegal to own unless you give money to the government who then says its ok to own as well as having it registered to them so they know where to come and take it when they deem it illegal.
Yes, the crappy laws are the hardest aspects of sbr’s to overcome, especially that particular one. As mentioned, almost every else can be addressed or mitigated in some other fashion.
@@armandgun we need to mitigate the FIRST reason more than any other. Just say it.
One of my favorite Canadians 🇨🇦
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Is this in canada or the US?
The worst part is that the governmrnt knows something they shouldnt.
I think Gas busting charging handles were left out, or a gas mask. I saw some comments on specific ammo for short barrels and the permission slip to cross state lines already so ill just leave it at that.
Hopefully we can dissolve the NFA GCA 1 day here in the states 🙏
SNBI
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Me: i am 15 y/o and i am totally need this at 4 am
What rifle is in the thumbnail?
I thought you lived in Canada, did you move to the US?
Like you said I think that if you take a smaller firearm and SBR it you can add tactical advantages to it instead of taking a Rifle and just making it smaller.
I would love to SBR a MPA30T.
Imagine if civil war broke out and you ran into this room on a time limit like “uhh uhhhm uh oh mayb- noo uhh”😂
Got my SBR today, 14 months
Ak or ar
SBRs only real drawback is terminal ballistics due to velocity decrease. They're still amazing 200 yards and in.
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@Arm&Gun hey a day or two ago I got a message stating I was picked as part of a random contest and won stating to text or call the number. I want to know if that’s true or if it’s a scammer.
Scammer. I’ve been deleting and blocking everyone I can find but they seem to hit my channel everyday with a few new accounts. Unless I announce I’m doing a contest or something in a post or video, it’s spam.
@@armandgun thank you for the response, that’s what I figured it was as well but wanted to be sure.
The duality of man
You have a lot of nice guns
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I so like that the lower is the ONLY firearms parts , because they allow ya to have WHATEVER GONE YOU WANT AT HOME THEN WHATEVER GUN AT WORK. To me that awesome. .308? Fine. 5.56mm? No problem, VERY reliable... .22 one of the most economic conversions due to it affordability... Just ALOT of good options.....
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Wait they have tax stamp in Canada too?!
No, you need special licenses to have an AR under 18”.
That's why he's in Canada! 😆😆😆
I would like to know how to own these beauties because I thought it was impossible in 🇨🇦 😢
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Request,, sniper SPR 2
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Can we get a bloop toob only video
Neat
"Can of pop"... Do they say "pop" in Canada? Thought that was only a local thing.
I think it’s a north thing. Somewhere around Kansas it switches to soda ha
Where is you're maxim defense pdx?
They have yet to return my call
He sounds so much like some other person I watch that does gun videos
This man is living in a COD meta verse irl lol 😅
SBRs are cool for sure and with some designs it's still the only way to go, but the advent of the brace gets users of the most popular platforms *almost* all the way there in terms of functionality with none of the nonsense: Asking if it please the crown. The cost difference (because it's not just $100 vs $200. It's the best market price you can find for your brace vs $200 for permission to install whatever you separately pay for the stock). Any transfer of an SBR across state lines requires permission in advance. Because the top quality training facilities in the US are all over the place and we have a LOT of states with a LOT of lines compared to Canada, that's a legitimate limitation for more than just people living in proximity to borders. Every other detriment of SBRs, I would happily consider the cost of doing business and a trade-off I am free to make if I choose. Reason #1 is the only one that matters.
I agree with you. And the fee/waiting period aren’t the problem, it’s ultimately the legal restrictions associated with them that is, and is what would frustrate me most. My solution would to have one or more pistol lowers for out of state travel and just swap whatever upper was most appropriate for the occasion, but have dedicated sbr lowers at home for use the rest of the time.
@@armandgun you're still trying to work around the problem of your government taking your right to live freely.
Arm&gun arnt you in Canada and how are you allow to have all these guns?
@@nathanielyoungman4454 The guy has a deep, established investment in guns yet his country has a Premier like Trudeau and no comparable constitutional anything like the second amendment. Speaking out is dangerous and expensive for him. The United States is literally the last, best, greatest, only hope for the right to bear arms on the entire planet. Nowhere else is even remotely as interested in that liberty.
Wow 😳 what a gun collection ! really amazing.but it is illegal in india
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Less barrel leaves more space for a suppressor 🙃
How the heck did you get all this in Canada???
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No one absolutely no one has sexy firearms like arm&guns 😂
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I don't understand? You live in Canada and we don't have any of these laws and taxes. Please make me understand this process.
I should have stipulated that reason 1 is primarily a USA thing, but other countries (including Canada) also have additional unfortunate laws against sbr’s. My largest audience by far is American, so I generally gear the law aspects around that. Reason 1 can be summed up across the board as ‘crappy additional laws that affect sbr’s’. Reasons 2-5 are general to all sbr’s.
Cool
Don't contact the fake Arm&Guns account. It's a sçãm and CZcamsrs will never ask for you to contact them in the Comments.
Just move to TN if you don’t like the SBR laws we are free over here👍🏼
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I would have all those guns and go on my phone and look for more to buy
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So you know he’s in Canadian. FJT.
In USA: Can open carry anything here, conceal carry any type of pistol. Can ride in truck with whatever you want on your lap or whatever. Many have truck guns here, pistol magnets etc. I carry a scorpion or .300 pistol in my SXS- for bear or tyrants.
Elaborate please?
@@L2HMforever gloooooooooowing strong.
How do you have all those beautiful things living in Canada??
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At 5:25 I thought he transitioned to B&W bruh
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SBRs are friggin LOUD : And holy s*** I left this comment before you did number 2
Give me that fal though..... I need it.
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