One Day Shower Prep!!! MUD PAN with Kerdi and Ardex 8+9 : TileCoach episode 28
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2020
- In this video I show how I take a shower from studs to ready for waterproof using a mud shower pan and Schluter Kerdi membrane with Ardex 8+9 over the top.
Many installers don't know this, but you can actually install over fresh dry pack (deck mud) mortar. Our projects are time sensitive and we need to take advantage where we can shorten the time between each step.
I show how to install a Kerdi drain, how to slope a dry pack pan, how to install a curb, how to install the kerdi membrane over fresh dry pack, and how to install Ardex 8+9 over it.
Please leave your comments in the section below, and find me on instagram @tilecoach. - Zábava
I'm a general contractor (new construction, remodels, etc) and have been in the trades since I was very young. I've experienced the same frustrations that many have mentioned here. It's not always easy or glamorous and yes, there are times you lose work to lesser qualified contractors after spending a lot of time quoting it. However, I completely agree with you about entering the trades, especially for those who are younger. If I had a little advice, it would be this. Whatever you do (tile, flooring, framing, plumbing, etc) learn to do it well and never quit learning to be better. Don't be in a hurry to be your own boss. Rather, find someone who will teach you a trade, not just how to do the work. Lastly, look for a need and fill it. There's an electrician on every corner, where I'm at, and a serious need for plumbers and quality dry wall guys, as an example. The trades are not a get rich quick scheme. Instead, they're a path to a rewarding career that can provide a very good living and future for you and your family. It has and is for mine. Thanks for your enthusiasm and encouragement!
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I just want to say, while I am not a CZcams personality at all, I truly enjoy following both of you. My story is a bit different from yours. In my youth most of my training came from making my own mistakes and being penalized for it. Tradesmen were not so eager to share then. Or maybe, I was not a good student...lol. Possibly... However, upon finding my niche in floor coverings, I found tile to be very exciting. Everybody here in GA claims to be a tile setter. Many of us make jokes about a certain ethnicity being assumed to be very good at it. My point being, both of you gentlemen demonstrate the tenacity to do quality work, as well as enthusiasm for the next generation of tradesmen. Thank you for that! I don't know about Cali, nor NZ, but I have difficulty finding help in the generation after mine of any reliable quality. 20 years ago I could just pick up an 18 year old kid and they mostly were eager to learn. Not so much today. We need people to learn from the proverbial old timers (more so myself than you gentlemen as age goes). Otherwise, who am I going to pay when I can no longer do the work myself? Though, in my experience, presents another set of problems...😂😂😂
I agree, a construction career is a marathon not a track meet but when it starts to come together the sky is the limit.
I’m only handyman but I believe in taking your time and carefully follow instructions and then do that extra 10% extra I always use the best products I’ve done a few wet rooms now and none have Leaked Internet is great for cross-referencing advice and opinions and then eventually you come up with a really good idea to look sound in I do like your carpentry videos and a few ideas from you you are a really good craftsman
Amen......been a GC for 20 yrs and started as framer than finish carpenter but learned most trades after awhile.....do a good job, do your best to please client and learn as much as you can.....have been lucky enough to learn and be efficient at most trades and do most of my own work on remodels.....and still it seems I come across new things after 35 yrs......construction is an art and still feels good looking at what you built at end of day
To me it seems like common sense but clearly it isn't and has been pointed out that its not, lol
this from a finish/trim carpenter, i like that you use possibly the most expensive level as a deck mud scree... NICE !
I'm and HVAC contractor for over 10 years bro, and my impression of you is good people. May you succeed in everything you do. You teach me what to do in my home project.
I woke up this morning with the same job in front of me and 50 questions in my head about how to do it correctly. You answered every question I had! I have been following you since I started this job and feel confident that I am using the best system possible for a water proof shower Thank you for teaching us to be better!
Thin set on a freshish mud pan is next level flexing
BRAVO!!! I'm a 30 year veteran contractor/installer, and I started watching with the mindset of giving some suggestions to help you improve. To my delight and surprise, you did your install exactly as I or one of my good apprentices would. EXACTLY. The only thing we do differently, is we put metal lathe down right before placing the dry pack mortar. This may be overkill, but it makes us feel more confident. Besides that, there is nothing I would add to your presentation. I appreciate your suggestion that younger people look into getting into the trades. We need more young people to learn this stuff.
If I weren't on the East Coast, I would swear that one of my guys taught you. While watching, I would say to myself, "Don't start packing it like.... Oh, you got it right." Then, "Make sure to work it into.... Oh, you got that right too." From then on, my smile got bigger and bigger, as it became obvious that you are actually a TRADESMAN, not just a guy trying to make money. A tradesman learns how to do his job properly, and is quick to make any changes to improve his craft as newer methods, materials or tools become available.
Skillful work will keep you busy regardless of the economy.
If you were in our area, I would funnel you tons of work. You would never have to advertise. I'm sure you will do well wherever you are, with your attention to detail, and concern for quality work.
Again, BRAVO!
-Tony Hill
Anthill Construction
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MD MHIC and MRHB
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No better feeling than having a great productive and efficient work day. Great job man and great tips! 🤙
Good advice at the end.
I would add- always 1/4 twist when putting glue up plumbing parts together
This guy is the man ! Love his vids.. keep doing what you do..
I'm a 75 year old DIY er I owned a 37 unit apartment building for 17 years in Cass corridor of Detroit. My son and I did most of the renovation on our own. I love vedios where I can learn and expand my knowledge weather it's used or not, because knowledge is a powerful tool. Thanks for your vedios.
One of your best vids so far! I love all the detailed explanations, and I can tell you have all your procedures honed. That is a ton of work to accomplish in one day. And only possible with experience and smart processes.
Nice im digging tile work ,you rock bro
Loving the work Issac! I'm. In Scotland but live the videos. So many good processes I have introduced after watching your videos.
Great, thorough, well expressed and illustrated. Thanks so much!
I have been a flooring installer and tile contractor for 25 years. And I must say. You have changed the way I do things. You have definitely taught me alot. I think you!!! JB flooring
I have an existing dry pack mortar pan that had some moisture issues so I ground away some little problem areas. I’m thinking of adding some thin set and then another thin layer of dry pack mortar to smooth it out and then perhaps the Schutler liner or shower kit. Did he put a dry pack mortar on top of a flat concrete floor or over an existing dry pack mortar pan?
Man your such a artist/professional! Knowledgeable and well spoken! Thanks for sharing!
Thats a clean install. Super helpful information. Thanks for the detailed clear instruction.
I like this system, looks full proof, nice job.
I love your methods. Nice work Isaac.
This is epic!!! Literally just trained my guys with this!
Awesome video bro!! I learnt allot from this one. I’m starting to float out my pans instead of using schluter. Smart idea on the curb. I have a sheet of 2” and it’s been sitting forever lol
Best video I've seen on sloping the pan. Great work dude.
I love love love the trades and diy rehabbing
29:48 Pretty cool that you get paid “playing in the sand”😉 (yes, hard work, but if love it, it’s worth it👍🏻💪🏼).
Thx for the great complete vid, & didn’t mind the length of it at all.....went by so quick.
Appreciate the tip about not “hammering” the mud, to prevent flaking the next day😁
Cheers✌🏼
Excellent work well done.
God bless you continue to do what you love and help others!!!
Great video as always. Appreciate your honesty and effort in sharing your experiences. Your customers are very lucky.
Great Video! Great attiude! Thank You for the video! Stay safe and stay busy!
I install Kerdi showers. I have also seen most of the the videos on shower and tile preps for showers and Your technique and quality is far better than anyone out there. Your shower will not leak. It is nice to see someone enjoys doing it right. Keep up the great work.
Awesome video.... thanks for all your input and professional instruction.
Great job I do enjoy the job as well and learning new ways to improve my work 👍🏼
You did a great Jonah and I would like to thank you for your directions and that you gave step by step detail u have helped me to give it a try lol.🇺🇸💪🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸
Inspiring words at the end of a great job. Thanks
There are many options when it comes to jobs in the building trades. I love your enthusiasm for what you do.
a wonderful video for others to learn. your a great coach and can see your pride of accomplishment. your positive attitude will inspire many others.
Nice work... I've been out of work in Houston since March. Had some experience with remodeling homes and grocery stores as a young man. I'm 62 and back to doing small projects. I appreciate the new product information you provided and the how to. Thanks!
Great work!
Good video man. Appreciate your detail and attitude. Makes for good work and a good work day. Nice!
Impressive work!
Oh ... for a new set of knees and a back! Thank you for doing this! Excellent video and narrative.
I've been looking for this EXACT kind of walkthrough. Its perfect!
Excellent Work!
Should have watched before I did mine ,excellent teacher
Damn dude! This is an incredibly informative video! Well done!
Love the honesty and positivity . I agree that youngsters should get into the building trades. Earn a living creating great homes for people. Love from the uk
Hey man I felt good just seen you work you floated , one day amazing , and looks good , thanks a million.. Maestro !
Thank you for leading and who you are. You inspire me thank you!
I always learn something from your shower vids -- subscribed. Thanks man
Your work is amazing. I watch a lot videos and wow. Never seen anyone as good with tile showers as you.
Enjoy watching video and love your positive outlook. Great to see thanks
This is amazing reference and great resource for shower installation. Just got a project and will be utilizing this method. I love this video.
you'r the best thanks for your info and advices your videos helped me a lot
My man, I have been doing that method for Kerdi flanges since my union diapers, lol! So happy to see a fellow tile installer who has pride in proper preparation!!!
Hey Mike, quick question- Did he put a dry pack mortar on top of a flat concrete floor or over an existing dry pack mortar pan? I have an old mortar bed that I grinded away some moisture damage and wonder if I can just put a layer of dry pack right over it….after setting a Kerri flange adaptor in.
Keep up the good videos and positive ways.
i just watched half a dozen videos on this subject and this is by far the best, clearest, and most informative instructional video. thank you. so glad to have found this resource!
Awesome video!!!
Love your work man im a beginner and ive learned alot from you.
Thanm you
Issac, been watching alot of your videos over the past few years. I love your work ethic, demand for the highest level of craftsmanship and thirst for knowledge and understanding of all building techniques. Little tip with that stabila level when you set your drain, turn the level on its side and you can use both bubbles at the same time to level it across both planes in one shot, give a try some time and you will see how much easier it is.
Man you really did it the way it’s suppose to be and beyond!! I never seen or even thought about putting thinset between the floor slab and the mud so it can truly bond!! 👍👍👍 awesome job I gotta check out some other videos on you
Nice and solid under that drain , good job
Wow really good job
Thanks for looking out for the glass guys dude. Im down in Napa doing showers and appreciate the tile guys that look out for stuff like that
Thanks so much!! What a great detailed video!!!!
Great video bro, I love the way you working
This has to be my favorite shower setup.
It’s look so easy when you it 👍 awesome thanks for video
It’s good to watch someone who is good at what they do
Great job!!!
Isaac you’r the best brother thank s for your videos
Wish i felt as energized on a Friday :D
Great vid and really helpful info. Im doing a shower pan like this soon for a Friend,. In Ireland we have precast trays on 99.9% of jobs so very rare do i get to do this kind of work.
Again thx for taking the time to make our job easier when try to figure this shit out,.
I love painting and doing flooring and tile work
Bro, you're clearly passionate about your work and that's what it's all about! This video was super informative. Thank you so much for what you do. This will help me become a better installer!
Love your coaching brother god bless
Love watching your videos . Learning a lot as I am about to tear out my tub for a shower because having knee replacement surgery soon.
You are an excellent teacher and your workmanship is impeccable, this is coming from a retired electrician after 48 years in the trade👍
You did a beautiful job on that shower Isaac! It's like watching an artist at work. Also, it's great that you're encouraging people to get into the trades, especially youngins. It's so rewarding to have your own business and know that you're doing a great job. (P.S. if you can recommend a shower install / tiling expert like yourself in Los Angeles please let us know, thanks!)
Batta Bing!!!! Nice Work. About to get back in the flooring saddle. Good to watch a few of your videos just to re kindle the flames of the artisan.
Great video. If you’re a newbie, you can cut 3/4 strips to the correct height for the correct slope and level them around the shower that way you have a straight firm place to screed from. Once it’s sloped, you remove the strips and fill the void.
How can I better visualize what you said?
Great video brother... I'm a GC in southern California. Riverside/ San Diego. Def need to inspire more younger generations to join the trades...
I'm a third generation remodeler, been self employed now for 5 years... I can't believe it took me this long to switch to kerdi and schluter systems... I was still using hot mop in 2019 haha. Any of you younger guys looking for a full time apprenticeship jobs, leave me a comment...
Keep up the great work Isaac
Hey Isaac. I just found your channel today. I'm a contractor in Alabama and I do a lot of tile work. I've enjoyed watching your videos today.
Always had concerns about the seams in the Schluter system. Your solution of using Ardex 8+9 to address the seams issue is awesome. It is going to be an absolutely must have when I do Schluter showers.
Been a builder for many years. Excellent work.
Good job 👏
Thank you for your excellent videos and being a champion for the trades. In my younger days in school they were pushing us to go to college which caused me great failures. I have now been in the trades for many decades and wished I had started sooner.
Great learning video !
I'm a diy individual. You have helped me with my planning of my remodel. Thank you
Thank you for the excellent presentation. Been in the trades for more than 30 years. Recently decided to go on my own again but this time doing remodeling. Thanks for the encouragement.
Use a grease pencil or sharpie around your parameter line, easy to see for a quick check. You put this backer board directly down into the pan. You trust this product over others. In the past vids you mention to keep the backer out of the pan. This is really beautiful work, wow! Great messages at the end of your vids, uplifting, thanks.
Thank you, you are a real PRO !!!
Great work
Phenomenal video - thank you.
I enjoy your videos. Tile contractor in Eugene Oregon. Keep up the good work! 👍
Isaac, I appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos. Your testing of the different waterproofing products has been an eye opening ...Many Thanks...I live in Regina, Sask.Canada. I was able to locate a local supplier for Ardex products and picked up some Ardex 8+9 today..bit pricey, but I trust that it will pay for itself. Would like to wish you, your family and community wellness, especially at this time.
Another great video
Great video
Thank you so much for how thorough and well-explained your videos are. You tube is full of people making how-to videos that are sped up with little to no explanation. I really appreciate your long form format and great explanation of not only what you're doing, but why you're doing it too. Thanks again!
man those videos are the bomb 💣 keep making good ones!!
Great video!!
Awesome video! I've been using Kerdi for a few years, no call back so far. I like the idea of Ardex 8+9 coating for additional protection. I will defintely use it on my next bathroom project.