So there are a few things I'd like to mention: 1. I was actually scheduled to get Tesla Solar roof (+ 3 power walls) installed in 2020. 2 weeks before installation, they jacked up the price by 25% and wouldn't explain why. I cancelled. 2. You cannot buy their solar roof solution without also buying at least 1 powerwall 3. If you're going to do solar shingles, it's better to do so if you need a new roof anyway. Ripping off a 3 year old roof to do it is a waste of money 4. While it's aesthetically more pleasing, it produces less power per square foot than solar panels. Then again, they can fit into every inch of available space, as opposed to solar panels, where you might have huge gaps where you can't fit a panel
That’s actually an amazing observation I work in the roofing industry so I’m curious as well about maintenance As I highly doubt Tesla is flipping the bill to clean yearly 😂
ok i live in a verry different part of te world here we cant get those tiles. So i got traditional solar panels. Before installing my pannels i paid 35K to renew my roof tiles. +-200m2 roof 45° and 25m2 flat roof. The solar palals cost me 1.26€/wp thats the going rate here i instaled 12600wp on the main roof 128m2 i paid just under 20K for the inverter and connections ext. the advantige off these tiles is its a compllet fix and you need to see the price as a new roof with panels
The only real reason I would ever consider Tesla for solar is for their Virtual Power Plant potential, which could be pretty cool down the road. I just hope Enphase takes that idea seriously as well.
There are a number of factors that are in flux. The Powerwall Direct program is now running which can help with pricing. There are more certified Tesla Solar Roof Installers available around the country however these appear to have a larger price for installation however they take care of all aspects of approval and turn-up. Tesla has made improvements in the solar roof shingles. Concerning reliability, I believe people have the option to use more than one inverter. Although the micro-inverter approach talks to a failure of a cluster of cells since there are many more micro-inverters (two orders of magnitude) I am wondering how that affects the MTBF. Lastly, as you mentioned new construction seems to be an easier business case especially since layout problems with penetrations are easy to plan around.
I plan on building a new house in about 3 years. Installing the solar roof without an old roof tear down should save me money. My concern is the coordination between Tesla, installers and my contractor. The last thing I want is roof wood panels to sit up there unprotected for 7 months.
your roof sheathing usually has a water resistant underlayment installed immediately after the wood sheathing is put on. You should ask for synthetic underlayment rather than traditional tar felt paper
@@LincolnLog😂 yea If you have a good controctor you shouldn’t have to ask this! Only cheap ass contractors don’t use synthetic been a contractor for 13 years!!!! Synthetic felt shouldn’t be a question in 2023! Also no one should let their wood get wet! Smart contractors look at the weather prior to the build and if anyone is letting your house sit for a day without tarping and covering they should not be installing I would lose my mind on a crew who allowed my customers wood to sit in rain without covering
With current interest rate at 6.99% and the total cost itself, it's not really affordable to the average household. Their estimate comes to around 200k, this will take me over 40 yrs to recoup the cost. My current electric bill averages at 300/mo. With the load payment, it will be at 700/mo. If the government is serious about this, they could at least provide some type of assistance will the finance part.
What I don't understand is why does Tesla make their solar tiles install like actual tiles. That level of detail is unnecessary. Why don't they just make large solar panels that fit onto the roof from edge to edge and simply look like tiles? Faux tiles in modulars panels? Then that way you would still just need to run the track and then lift, place and connect. The intended purpose of the tiles is to "look" like tiles. They don't actually have to be individual tiles. This effect can still be done with single unit solar panels. It is only along the edges and in areas specific to the location being fitted that there would need to be pieces custom-made. And even in those cases those pieces can also be prefabbed in a factory and then taken to the site and installed.. Large areas of a roof can still be covered with large, standardized size, mass produced, single units that simply look like tiles to the naked eye. Either I just realized a major flaw in the Tesla tiles by stating the obvious, or this idea has already been thought of. Which is it?
Tesla's main goal is to try and emulate the look of a traditional tile roof. I am sure they did a lot of research to get where they are at now, with the product they have designed.
There are different shaped planes to roofs - some have eaves and valleys, some don't. Some are just angled rectangles, some are triangles. For roofs with vent pipes, there would be a thousand different places the hole needs to be for a thousand different houses. It's like asking "why do companies make paving slabs? Why don't they just have one large bendy length of tile that stretches from house to sidewalk or house to driveway?" - it would weigh multiple tons, be a nightmare to get to your house, and then all the groundwork would need to be done to make sure the surface is 100% level before putting it in. Because the vast majority of the paving slabs and roof tiles being put in place don't need to be cut. They just fit right in. If it were quicker to do it all in one, don't you think the people that make money off doing it (and want to do it in the quickest way possible) would have thought of that already?
So there are a few things I'd like to mention:
1. I was actually scheduled to get Tesla Solar roof (+ 3 power walls) installed in 2020. 2 weeks before installation, they jacked up the price by 25% and wouldn't explain why. I cancelled.
2. You cannot buy their solar roof solution without also buying at least 1 powerwall
3. If you're going to do solar shingles, it's better to do so if you need a new roof anyway. Ripping off a 3 year old roof to do it is a waste of money
4. While it's aesthetically more pleasing, it produces less power per square foot than solar panels. Then again, they can fit into every inch of available space, as opposed to solar panels, where you might have huge gaps where you can't fit a panel
A friend of mine has one and is very happy with it. Think they’re improving the process.
Social media influencers get very good response from Tesla solar.
Pretty much…
Normally on a regular roof you get algae or moss growth on your tiles due to rainfall and dew. So, I assume you've to clean your Tesla roof regularly.
That’s actually an amazing observation I work in the roofing industry so I’m curious as well about maintenance
As I highly doubt Tesla is flipping the bill to clean yearly 😂
I am happy with mine!
Sounds like good things to keep in mind.
ok i live in a verry different part of te world here we cant get those tiles. So i got traditional solar panels.
Before installing my pannels i paid 35K to renew my roof tiles. +-200m2 roof 45° and 25m2 flat roof.
The solar palals cost me 1.26€/wp thats the going rate here i instaled 12600wp on the main roof 128m2
i paid just under 20K for the inverter and connections ext.
the advantige off these tiles is its a compllet fix and you need to see the price as a new roof with panels
Great information. Personally, I think the most ideal roof is standing seam metal with panels mounted over it.
Nice!
You are 100% correct
At the price of the tesla solar roof, you might as well choose that route
You seriously think solar panels mounted to a metal roof look BETTER than the Tesla roof? No way.
@@TrendyStone read my comment more carefully.
The only real reason I would ever consider Tesla for solar is for their Virtual Power Plant potential, which could be pretty cool down the road. I just hope Enphase takes that idea seriously as well.
Sounds interesting’
There are a number of factors that are in flux. The Powerwall Direct program is now running which can help with pricing. There are more certified Tesla Solar Roof Installers available around the country however these appear to have a larger price for installation however they take care of all aspects of approval and turn-up. Tesla has made improvements in the solar roof shingles. Concerning reliability, I believe people have the option to use more than one inverter. Although the micro-inverter approach talks to a failure of a cluster of cells since there are many more micro-inverters (two orders of magnitude) I am wondering how that affects the MTBF. Lastly, as you mentioned new construction seems to be an easier business case especially since layout problems with penetrations are easy to plan around.
by inputting you your location and your average power bill lets you figure out your kw usage. it really just simple math.
I plan on building a new house in about 3 years. Installing the solar roof without an old roof tear down should save me money. My concern is the coordination between Tesla, installers and my contractor. The last thing I want is roof wood panels to sit up there unprotected for 7 months.
your roof sheathing usually has a water resistant underlayment installed immediately after the wood sheathing is put on. You should ask for synthetic underlayment rather than traditional tar felt paper
@@LincolnLog dosnt Tesla use some kind of proprietary membrane that goes on the wood panels?
@@Cello69. it's basically a branded peel-and-stick membrane
@@LincolnLog😂 yea If you have a good controctor you shouldn’t have to ask this! Only cheap ass contractors don’t use synthetic been a contractor for 13 years!!!! Synthetic felt shouldn’t be a question in 2023!
Also no one should let their wood get wet! Smart contractors look at the weather prior to the build and if anyone is letting your house sit for a day without tarping and covering they should not be installing
I would lose my mind on a crew who allowed my customers wood to sit in rain without covering
Still waiting on my solar roof and Tesla keeps trying to get me to cancel it.
Why are they trying to cancel it?
Let them. Stay far away from tesla solar of all types
@@jackthesolarguy IDK they keep emailing me telling me if I don't respond to the email they are going to cancel my order and mail me my deposit
@@mattbrew11 yeah, I figured tesla was just slowly killing the solar shingles so no one would notice
@@missingpiece2071 There is NO evidence Tesla is trying to slowly kill their product...secretly. Silly comment.
With current interest rate at 6.99% and the total cost itself, it's not really affordable to the average household. Their estimate comes to around 200k, this will take me over 40 yrs to recoup the cost. My current electric bill averages at 300/mo. With the load payment, it will be at 700/mo. If the government is serious about this, they could at least provide some type of assistance will the finance part.
Great points. Until rates go down, cash is the best option.
I heard they pretty much pulled out of the solar tile market.
I wish you’d stop showing the slate looking tiles. Tesla doesn’t offer them. 🤨
The solar credit is a "nonrefundable" tax credit, which means you won't receive any benefit if you already receive a tax refund.
they quoted me 206,000 lol
Wow
What I don't understand is why does Tesla make their solar tiles install like actual tiles. That level of detail is unnecessary.
Why don't they just make large solar panels that fit onto the roof from edge to edge and simply look like tiles? Faux tiles in modulars panels? Then that way you would still just need to run the track and then lift, place and connect.
The intended purpose of the tiles is to "look" like tiles. They don't actually have to be individual tiles.
This effect can still be done with single unit solar panels. It is only along the edges and in areas specific to the location being fitted that there would need to be pieces custom-made. And even in those cases those pieces can also be prefabbed in a factory and then taken to the site and installed.. Large areas of a roof can still be covered with large, standardized size, mass produced, single units that simply look like tiles to the naked eye.
Either I just realized a major flaw in the Tesla tiles by stating the obvious, or this idea has already been thought of.
Which is it?
Tesla's main goal is to try and emulate the look of a traditional tile roof. I am sure they did a lot of research to get where they are at now, with the product they have designed.
There are different shaped planes to roofs - some have eaves and valleys, some don't. Some are just angled rectangles, some are triangles. For roofs with vent pipes, there would be a thousand different places the hole needs to be for a thousand different houses.
It's like asking "why do companies make paving slabs? Why don't they just have one large bendy length of tile that stretches from house to sidewalk or house to driveway?" - it would weigh multiple tons, be a nightmare to get to your house, and then all the groundwork would need to be done to make sure the surface is 100% level before putting it in. Because the vast majority of the paving slabs and roof tiles being put in place don't need to be cut. They just fit right in.
If it were quicker to do it all in one, don't you think the people that make money off doing it (and want to do it in the quickest way possible) would have thought of that already?