The Untold Secret of Mike Austin's 150+ MPH Clubhead Release!
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- In this video, Steve reveals how Mike Austin was able to make golf swings at over 150 mph with his steel shafted, persimmon driver.
Employing a whiplike and powerful clubhead release, Austin was able to drive a golf ball 515 yards in the National Senior Open in 1974.
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Steve, as a golf Researcher myself, this is the most important lesson of yours ever. I mean ever. You simply explained the so called RELEASE, where even Mike Austin struggled to explain in meaningful manner. Hats off, Steve.
Steve, you are the best CZcams golf instructor. I’ve built my swing based on many of the principles you teach. BUT, this one is an aha moment for me. I avg about 250 on my drives. After implementing this in my swing I’ve able to hit my drives around 290. Subtle wrists and the whipping did it for me. I really can’t believe it but it’s happening. Keep up the great work!
Wow that's amazing! Cheers!
Thank you Steve, an added element to my shoulder movements to try. Great video!
Can't wait to try this on my next range session Steve! Thanks for bringing this up to our attention.
Great tip Steve thanks for all you do going to try this I’ve always heard it was like cracking a whip first time it was explained thank you
Cheers Terry!
i love the way you explained this, especially involving the physics terms.
Do you use this motion when hitting irons too?
Basically what Mike Austin said when the hands work like a differential during the release. Though, one would have to understand some basic automotive jargon to comprehend what he meant by that. For those that don't know, basically a differential is a gearbox that allows the driveshaft of a vehicle to turn the rear axles. But when going around a curve, both (rear) axles cannot turn at the same speed because the outside tire has a larger turning radius than the inner. The differential allows the the inner axle to spin in reverse, relative to the outer axle. But relative to the car, they are both spinning the same direction. So, while the lead had moves backwards in relation to the the lower hand, they both are still traveling along the arc of the hands about the swing center.
Hi Steve, I tried doing the whipping motion before you showed this video, and it really works at my backyard..... not at the range yet.... tnx EdA
I believe this is exactly what I have been missing. I inadvertently did this on my last drive last weekend. Hit a massive drive with a 30 yard draw. I believe I have the body motion down just have had a hard time releasing the club. Been hitting pushes for the past month. Cant wait to continue practicing with a free release pattern.
This is great way to explain what I've been trying to explain to my buddy. I get more distance than he does, and when I closely look at his action, i see his hands are moving with the clubhead at impact sometimes even with his elbow rising. I slow my swing at just before impact and let the club head overtake at impact shooting out past my hands. I now want to see the results of incorporating a pullback as per your video...Thanks
Will do Paul that's a great suggestion. Cheers!
So glad I watched this video. Thought it would be just another ho hum golf video, but turns out it was the best one I've ever seen! The gentleman actually showed the "trick" of producing clubhead speed in the impact area. Can't wait to work on it!!! Thanks you so much, Steve!!!
You're welcome Tom! Please keep us posted.
Wow, great knowledge to have.
2 days ago I commented on your “flapper” video and had some questions. You said you’d have a video coming. I didn’t expect it so soon. Thanks Steve.
Cheers Penguin!
Excellent instruction
Bravo amigo muchas gracias por su labor Bendiciones!
Yes, also instead of using the hands you will see longer hitter on tour use their feet (up on toes) to create the vector. Also, look at Brook Koepka's left elbow at impact. Very interesting.! Great vid! As a joke....just when I thought all the speed was from the hips. I use to crack towels with my hips. LOL
Best video in a long time
Cheers!
I like this concept; thanks Steve. Can you post some super slo-mos FO and DTL doing this move?
DEFINITELY agree. Thx!
Jack Nicklaus did this with his fastest left shoulder on tour. This why he hit it 300 yds.
Today's fastest left shoulder is Webb Simpson especially during his iron shots.
The tour players just don't explain it.
Steve I was watching last night and you were giving a lesson with the orange whip and releasing from top. You set up the player bag behind him and he had awesome efficiency. How do I find that video ?
You won't tell me?
@@desano1975 Was it Walt...the older guy?
I have heard this as a motion of hooking a fish using the tried and true up and back. This video hopefully will allow me to elaborate on that.
Yes I can see that analogy. Kind of a backhanded fly cast for sure.
Through impact ever get the feeling of pushing the butt of the grip backward with the lead hand, and the rest of the club forward with the trail hand? Like spinning the club about a pivot point in the grip that's between your hands... or is that bad?
K D! Loved you with the Warriors. Yes I think you're describing the same feeling...super supple.
K D if you are consciously pushing the club forward on the downswing with your trail hand; your lead hand will act passively and equally pulling the club head. If you push or pull with both hands at the same time then multiply mistakes happens. Cheers
Based on your boat video... I took my sc300 launch monitor to the range and really focused on trying to whip it. My average 108mph swing shot up to 114 in a less than a bucket of balls. Timing this new swing is my next goal so I'm not spraying them around. Thanks!
Terrific Bruce! Keep us posted.
Did you move your ball position and play Mike’s recommendation of an open stance?
With my former ‘off the instep’ position, I cold topped and pull topped so many shots. 1 ball inside heel was a magic pill.
So many MA instructors have said that it’s difficult not to hit a straight shot. I agree.
At 67, I haven’t been on in 2 at our 567 yard par 5 in 15 years. Yesterday, thanks to MA, Steve and the other Austin CZcams creators, I was on the fringe. No eagle but a tap in bird.
My head speed was down to low 90s 2 years ago and now at my age, I’m back over 100.
I hope you’re young enough to take serious advantage of Mike and Steve’s insights. Damn, I was in Pasadena and 22 years old when Mike was teaching in the LA area. I’ve been a lifelong 5-7 handicapper but with Mike’s method and my 22 year old putting eyes, I just know I could have been a plus handicapper.
All I hope for now is to keep shooting in the 70s from the back tees. That’d be about a 3 hc but my goal is scratch...all I need is the time I don’t have.
...but what a journey it’s been.
Fairways and greens!
@@penguingolf2805 I've found that about 1 - 1/2 balls inside my left heel works. My stance is a little open (5 to 10*) to get my hips clear and post up hard to yank against. I've been digging up tee boxes for the past year with my feet. My right foot wants to spin out at the toe, my left pushes back hard. I didn't really notice until a buddy pointed it out. I switched to a very aggressive tour shoe last spring and instantly picked up 8-10 yards. I think my goal now will be to make centered square contact for more accuracy. I found some going out hard and fast only to slice off into the net about 250 yrd out. A few pulled hard left but towards the end i managed to get a few nice push draws. I'll stay at it and hope to get my accuracy to a place that I'll game some of our tighter fairways. It's funny that I instinctively knew about the boat and skier but I needed to see it to realize it applies in the golf swing too!
Bruce...: I got my hint from playing roller derby and karate as a kid. I never heard it explained like in this video and although Tiger said flash speed would make him inconsistent, I believe he does it instinctively.
Mike mentioned ‘karate chop’ in a few videos but whip snapping works better for me.
I play with a former pro baseball player who hits it a mile at 65 years old. He mutilates the ground he’s on too.
I’ve seen just about every CZcams video on Mike but haven’t come across one that pertains to ball position. Viewing both Mikes in action led me to conclude the it’s further back than what I was employing.
In one of ‘Mentored by the master’ videos, Mike gets him to open his stance by drawing back 1-1/2 inches. By employing the open stance and ball position I’m now as confident hitting a golf ball as throwing a baseball - slow learner, I guess- took me 43 years.
BTW, Hogan special ordered shoes from UK with an extra spike under the ball of the right shoe. Wonder if that would help you?
Fairways and greens!
I have a very specific formula for ball position with every club that allows you to make the same swing with every club and yet strike with a perfect angle of attack. It’s one of the several things I ‘hold back’ for the members of my website.
Hey Steve. I get how this works with a driver or wood off the tee. But, does it also work with long irons off the deck? Almost seems like it would cause a heck of a lot of toe down action. Would one just make the lie angle more upright?
No you don't go toe down doing this. For every club your brain is controlling the amount of ulnar deviation at impact to strike the correct depth.
Steve Pratt Golf gotcha. That makes sense. Thanks.
Steve, did Mike counterbalance his clubs like Hogan, Nicklaus, etc did? Any idea of swing weight?
@@Wiz51 Heavy swing weight. E8 on the driver perhaps.
This can surely to improve speed but worsen the delivery to the ball. Could you explain to me how not to increase dynamic loft using this motion? Or does dynamic loft increase as this motion is way stronger than the rotational motion? How should you balance the two? Cheers.
When synchronized with the proper pivot, this merely serves to slow the handle down. The clubhead should catch up with the left arm at the ball. On a driver I'm actually more interested in spin loft. On irons I will still arrive with the proper amount of forward lean to optimize AoA and launch.
@@Inmotion70 I'm assuming especially on longer irons this motion will work like a gem. But yeah the spin loft on driver is always the key isnt it haha
@@ToraxReborn Many assume that we can't freely release the clubhead and still have proper forward lean and forward divot. Mostly this is handled through ball position.
Would you thin the ball if you the handle up? Mike Austin talked about the distance between the sternum and the ball. Would we just turn the shoulder around the sternum then the upward action would happen naturally if we release the club when we our chest (or left shoulder )turning up?
Can you explain 'handle up'?
@@Inmotion70 Sorry I meant pulling the handle up.
@@m3toz4 Pulling the handle up torques the clubhead around the arc. I would imagine it would lengthen the 'flat spot'.
@@Inmotion70 thanks, Steve!
Steve, I saw your video with Eric Corgono! Where can I get the training club you used
in that video? Thanks;
JdP
Speed Whoosh. On my website www.hititlonger.com/pro-shop.
Where is this course at? That range is awesome.
Golf Development Complex - Moorpark, CA
Pole drill Dalton Mccrary straight shooting golf!
Nailed this move.
Would this put extra force/pressure on my wrists?
By the laws of action reaction....yes.
Some things like this are hard to verbalize. A person just has to experiment with it until he/she finds the feel of it. That’s probably why mike didn’t talk about it. He just did it instinctively.
How do you differentiate between this and a "flipping the hands" feeling?
Hey Hulk! To me it's a flapping move not a flipping move. I don't bury the face shut in the follow through at all.
@@Inmotion70 I first started using one of your catapult techniques from an earlier video, but was flipping my hands. First 20 or so drives were almost 290 to 300, but I fatigued and my timing was off. Had trouble hitting the ball at all after that. Going to the range again soon and will try to avoid burying my club face. Been playing about 4 months.
@@hulksmash6858 Keep the clubface square the the arc and keep us updated too!
Hulk Smash68 if I may interject. All of us golfers may tend to flip the club head through because we unknowingly push with equal powers from both hand or pull with equal power from both hands as we impact the ball. Both the golf back swing and forward swing can only be done correctly if in our consciousness we are either pulling or pushing with one hand. The other hand must feel passive as it is doing equally the opposite.
This is the same with when the wheels of our car move. Are they moving backwards or forwards? The answer is both equally; but our brain can only perceive backwards or forwards separately; but never together.
So Steve concepts works 100 percent as long as he pushes his body back with the consciousness of his lead hand and at the transitional part of his downswing; he changes direction; pulling his body and the club head with his lead hand going forward all the way to the finish of his swing. I know it may sound strange; but believe me it works as every part of your body responds automatically just as a car moves backwards or forward as the wheels spins equally. Cheers
PS: Hogan did just the opposite pulled back with his trail hand and pushed forward with his trail hand. That why he said he wished he hand 3 right hands on the downswing because he knew as long as he was forcibly pushing with his trial hand the lead hand would be passively pulling with equal power. Hogan swung with his right hand. Moe Norman said he swung with his lead hand. The choice is yours to make
@@thomasfraser9072 Thank you for the detailed comment. When I first started playing, I stumbled upon Moe Norman. It was great in the beginning as I had little flexibility. I am 6'1", and 305. As I have been increasing my flexibility, his swing technique no longer helps. I am working on a more traditional swing, and working on coming in shallow. I will work on the the push pull method next time I am out on the range, and probably in my yard today. I have become inundated with information, and trying to process all the information as best I can. Thank you.
Hi Steve. Hope your keeping safe! I don’t trust any other channel as I’m 100 percent working on Mike Austin’s methods. Its taken me 3 years of my wasted time with all the confusion out there. I know me biggest fault is pulling down with my arms and not opening up at impact. Should I stay connected with my left arm against my pec , so my arms and upper body should move at the same time. Is this correct. I’m practicing golf all the time cause this lockdown. I don’t want to ingrain bad habits. I haven’t seen a video of yours explaining this can you please help? Thanks your channel as given me hope 🤝
That's a good topic for a video thanks! Pulling with the arms is tough to get rid of!
What’s happening with D Duval
+ 13 at pebble anyone know?
Joe Talburt And he was on his way to a mid/uppers 80s second round too until he withdrew
Tom 54
Wow
Thanks
He’s trash
Man!! Never thought fore arms rotation had this dimension!!! Hope I learn it👍
Suppleness first. First with a towel or rope. Then with a club no ball.
@@golf4life357 Supple quickness....explosive whipping!
Anyone play table tennis- I like to call it ping pong.
I haven’t played in a while but I was always amazed that I could whip, flip, flap- otherwise control the face with not much conscious effort. The same can and should be possible with a golf club. At a higher level (say 12 handicap or better) of golf the conscious/subconscious; self 1/self 2; or other mental processes that hinder a good swing.
I can’t play ping pong left handed and I wondered what makes me think that I can control a golf club with my left?
Age old debate but I’m a right hand hitter (sorry Bobby, whether you think you swung the club with your left, you had that magnificent control with your right) and my face control is better than ever.
There’s far fewer right (or dominant) hand control advocates but for many of us, it’s the logical hand to use. It’s the smarter hand.
Remember Hogan wanted 3 right hands.
Yes you can control the face like ping pong - but only if you have control of the handle path first.
PenguinGolf I am with you I push my club head on the downswing all the way with my right hand to the finish of my swing as I allow my trail hand to passively pull my club with equal power. Hogan wrote it is impossible for the right hand to overtake the lead hand if you have the power of three right hands pushing on the downswing. Cheers
@@Inmotion70 of course. We control path/face with the handle. Teaching otherwise is simple "feel vs. real".
@@GripJenkins I mean even if your handle path is not good, you can still control the face like a ping pong paddle. You're just more likely to be off, and the attempt to draw the ball (topspin) will turn into a smother/duck hook.
Looking back on college days when I did play ping pong, tennis and just a little golf, I remember duck hooking and smothering shots after ping pong.
Not so much after tennis and the forceful whipping, flipping, slapping and flapping I did in ping pong had to be pacified for good golf.
MA and MD both demonstrated the loose whippy hands but I got bad results when giving it an all out whip. So I assumed that like my more sedate hand action after ping pong, the action MA advocates was an exaggeration to simply aid in loosening the hands/wrists.
Can the forceful application of the hands/wrists/fingers used in ping pong be used in golf if applied properly? Can this be the reason I can’t carry more than 250?
BTW I don’t use credit cards. I’ll try a debit card to join your site.
Thomas Fraser 👍. Do you hang your hat in the UK?
This is an over complicated explanation of the cause and effect. In the Mike Austin and Count Yogi swings the left arm acts similar to the primary lever of a Trebuchet, the club shaft the sling holding the projectile, and the club head mass acting as the projectile which instead of flying off into space hammers (quite literally) down into the back of the ball at the point in the swings where hips shift laterally to target then reach 45° and feel stuck, like hitting a physical wall, which also puts the brakes on the shoulders which are lagging 45° and just reaching parallel as the hands bring club shaft horizontal allowing the force of gravity to act in the club head mass. The lead left arm flies off the chest dragging the hands and club forward as golfer lifts back heel to allow hips and shoulder to turn to finish as club force whips the club head mass down around the hands.
The significant conceptual difference between the Austin / Yogi swing and what is currently taught is there is no attempt to sustain the lag in the downswing trying to lock the trail wrist into radial deviation and extension. The dual plane, “sustain the lag” technique was developed by Byron Nelson when switching to metal shafts in the 1930s with to goal of bending the club shaft at the start of the downswing to store energy in it like a leaf spring then release it into the ball. To keep the bend in the shaft the hands must keep accelerating, which is done with side bending in the downswing. Yogi and Austin just let the club whip freely around the hands which results in more acceleration that occurs by bending shaft and releasing the bend at impact.
Nobody on tour ACTUALLY sustains lag. It's an illusion.
@@Inmotion70 Three things cause the club head to lag behind the hands: 1) The forward lean of the shaft created by the hosel when face is at nominal loft, more for short clubs, less as they get longer which is why ball position must change back to front respectively as clubs get shorter; 2) radial deviation in wrists, and; 3) extension in trail wrist. Many recreational golfers I observe don’t grip the club in a manner which allows the club force to force the wrists into maxed out radial deviation in the takeaway or the start of the downswing when club head reverses direction so there isn’t much if any radial deviation lag to release. Those who don’t create a lot of radial/ulnar deviation also tend to maintain extension in the trail wrist which pushes butt of club to target, opening face and causing a slice.
I believe mike Austin was very articulate when describing the benefits of centripetal acceleration to maximize club head velocity by using relatively small displacements at the center of swing arc.
Applying a force perpendicular to the path of the club head will keep it accelerating in a circle.
The force must be applied “in phase” with the desired motion, otherwise the input will be counterproductive.
“Pumping” a swing.
Using a hula hoop
Twirling a weight on the end of a string.
Cracking a whip would seem appropriate .
However,
The abrupt 180 degree change in hand path described in the video appeared to kill club speed more than enhance it.
imo
You're oversimplifying.
@@Inmotion70
Thanks,
My feeble mind pretty much insists that I keep things simple.
I do appreciate the explanation and meant no offense.
I suspect you have a much better understanding of swing mechanics than me.
The details you offered provide a lot of insight.
However the single detail of reversing your hand (as well as the accompanying slo-mo) appeared to reduce momentum transfer and club velocity.
I have seen many old clips of Mike A explaining his version of a “back-hand slap” incorporated into his release.
I never got the impression he was retracting any part of the lead hand.
Perhaps your point was too subtle or I just misunderstood.
But thanks for trying
Ya Steve, like the idea of
slowing down the handle at impact
Supple quickness Sam! Cheers!
Second!!!! J/k first. Thanks for the help!
J/k is Jump/___? Thx!
I already have the Duck Hooks. Guess whats going to happen now!!!
It's most likely body related not hands or release.
Hope the cake was nice !
The cake was ridiculous. Moist with chocolate chips inside!
In one of the videos with Austin and Dunaway, Austin shows the left thumb flipping action while sitting and chatting with Dunaway. This clarifies it and it isn't that hard to pull off during the swing. Think "flipping the left thumb" See "Austinology Chapter 5, czcams.com/video/12s-5UADHvI/video.html time:24:40-32:00
Parematic acceleration is just sling shot.
Hmm I like bull whip crack better.
Very nice, Steve. In your explanation you mentioned the left arm straightening. This doesn't actually happen in your swing as yours is always straight from the top to impact. It could happen, though, if you bent it at the top as some people prefer or even have to. Some pros actually play with a bent left arm at the top - Jordan Spieth, Andres Romero, Angel Cabrera and Kevin Stadler to name a few. Do you think having the extra lever of the lower left arm could increase club head speed? It would still be fairly straight at impact and certainly gives you a more comfortable and longer back swing position at the top.
Cheers Ken😃😃.
Its not grip pressure imo. This is what instruction gets wrong. Its loose wrist joints rather than loose grip in hands
Grip pressure changes during the swing, but I think it's both.
6:30
I think Ricky Fowler is a good example of it.
All about timing, difficult move to consistently perform
It’s amazing how our body actually know how to whip or sheesh the club naturally. But how do u maintain accuracy while trying to do it, and not causing the club be father out 1 inch or 1/2 inch inside. Forget about squaring the face, just make sure u hit it in the middle that’s already hard enough.
“A water boat” aka a boat
HA! I guess I meant to say a Water SKI boat. :)
I have a secret. There are secrets.
Shhhh that's a secret.
@@Inmotion70 I found a secret i have never remotely heard anybody say ever. I found it them on my own. I think ive found the holy grail. I dont use a swing plane at all i directly hit the ball with my theory. I think tour pros really do not know what i know.
absurd!, wait i meant absolutely absurd!! 🤦🏻🤦🏻
Yes that is an absurd amount of clubhead speed. But yet it's true.
What a load of shite
Mike Austin played with wooden clubs & steel shafts
Pullimg the handle cause a stuck position this is horseshit
What an absolute load of rubbish! 150MPH?
Let's see you prove it.
That's way faster than the tours longest hitters.
Golf is difficult enough without nonsense like this!
Mike Austin was measured at over 150 mph clubhead speed in 1940 in Chicago. The current world long drive champion, Kyle Berkshire has swung 156 mph on Trackman and recorded 230 mph ball speed. There are at least a dozen guys I personally know who have achieved 150 mph including 50 year old Eddie Fernandez who is the Senior champion. Look them up on CZcams and you'll find clips from live network TV. The guys on Tour are pretty slow, relatively speaking, but very straight.
Yeah in competition right now the long drive guys are in the 140s. If they hit 150 in the grid it’s usually a winner. 148 usually does it.
@@Inmotion70 What did they use in 1940 to measure Austins swing speed? No way Austin was achieving the same results as Berkshire in 1940 with persimmon even his Guinness record which isn't recognized anymore was aided by a tail wind of at least 25 mph. Plus his playing partner "stepped" off the distance from where the ball was to the center of the green... hardly accurate.
Austin was a long hitter but not in the same league with that equipment in 1940 maybe if he had today's equipment I could buy it.
Anyways your video about pulling back on the handle isn't correct you don't understand the forces and torques involved. the angular force on the handle makes a golfer have to fight through that in the opposite way that you show, the golfer is using his body to pull the club up and around which facilitates what you think pulling the handle backwards does. Sorry you need to talk to Michael Jacobs about this.
@@jaydubeck3435 How do you think the handle slows as it goes up and left?
Also, Austin was measured by MIT professor Harold 'Doc' Edgerton who invented stroboscopic photography. You've probably seen his images of Bobby Jones and Francis Ouimet...as well as the 'Bullet Through An Apple'. Edgerton was accurately measuring clubhead speed, ball speed, and angle of attack back then - first in his lab at MIT, then at the University of Illinois, Chicago where he and Mike crossed paths around 1940...the same year he met Count Yogi who had a golf studio there.
@@Inmotion70 Where is the data from that measurement? What was he using to measure the club head speed? How about ball speed I doubt Austin was 150 mph and so far you are the only source that I have seen that claims this.
That concept might be a bit hard on the left elbow and wrist while trying to duplicate... Just my observation