A͏s͏mongold Reacts To "Nuclear Winter - Keemstar" | By H3H3Productions
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- Asmongold's Reaction to H3H3 last response to the Keemstar (DramaAlert) drama, after the Content Nuke that was dropped some days ago. Asmongold also comments on the latest twitter feud between Keem and Ethan, is a boxing match actually gonna happen?...
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“Thank god it’s only 10 min long “ meanwhile his vid is almost an hour 🤣🤣 love these reactions.
I hate how Asmon pauses the video every 3 seconds then goes on to try to preach from a devils advocate perspective only to be proven wrong 2 seconds later into the video. Stop trying to defend that toxic fuck Keemstar.
Literal same thought
Jason M He’s being reasonable and logical, not defending him bud 😂
@Kaml Toez they're both shitty people dont pick a side here
Kaml Toez nice one LUL
Asmongold: “Thank god its only ten minutes long”
Me: “Oh nice I’ll be able to watch the whole-“
Time: 44 minutes
*Screams in confusion*
i was about to comment the same thing lmaooo
damnit, beat me to it!
Asmongold being asmongold lmao, love it
Literally my exact thoughts
Thank god its only 10 minutes..
Keem Uploads 90 minute movie.
Damn, let Tony play his games in peace! :(
2:53 thing is, Tony already addressed the situation Keem brought up back in 2017, its old news. Keem literally only brought it up to deflect the flak off himself and unto Tony
It's also 100% caused by Keem because of the fact it wouldn't have happened if not for Keem. Asmon was asking what percentage Keem is responsible for, well to most people in chat, and I, it's a pretty simple math question.
@@kingjest5257 keem is a clown
@@kingjest5257
Quick hypothetical - would Keem still have been responsible had the whole catfishing thing happened in 2018? In 2019? 2020? 2021? 2022? 2023? 2024? 2025? 2026? 2027? 2028? 2029? 2030? 2031?
Where's the cut-off point where Keemstar stops being the universal pariah for anyone's attempts to troll and harass Tony?
@@roadent217 when the person doesn't go to Tony and explicitly states they're talking to him because of Keem in the first place.
@@roadent217 I'd say a year is all it would take for it to just become a coincidence. However it's absurd to think it's a coincidence that someone would show up and catfish someone just after they've been falsely accused of being a pedophile.
"Thank god it's only 10 mins long"
*Asmon video is 44 mins* : Seems legit
They call him "PauseChamp" for a reason.
Look at the length of the new keem video....
Yeah never mind, it got deleted, but look at gokanaru h3h3 thing, 1 hour and 35 minutes, h3h3 is shit
@@adrianzealot1716 Completely unrelated, but alrighty I guess
@@Thisisausername556 keem reposted gokanaru's video on his channel
I respect Asmond's attempt to look at the information from both sides, but at this stage Keemstar simply doesn't deserve the benefit of any doubt anymore. Given the mountain of proovable crap Keem has pulled over the years, the burden of proof has shifted to Keem. His believability has just dropped into the negative at this point.
Yep, dude is literally inviting more harassment on the guy. Keem doesn't just simply say things and people don't speak like he does - dude had already addressed it and Keem threw it out there like a grenade and basically said "go bug this guy on stream because he needs to answer to this" - claiming keemshit is 'just saying this' even if just for a moment, is ignoring all the context around it.
It didn't happen independently of him! The catfish happened after he levied the original accusation - the dude is clearly a wannabe dramalerter trying to get noticed. After all this context, that's the smallest fucking reach ever.
The thing is, is that Asmond isn't defending him by any means. Regardless of mountains of evidence, every story should be looked at from both sides. That's the reason our judicial system is the best one that has ever been invented thus far.
What's wrong with looking at points of contention objectively?
@@Ryn0_333 Because A) this is no court and B) Credibility is a factor.
Keemstar has a trackrecord of being petty, vindictive and resorting to slander when he feels that he may have been wronged to some degree at some point. He has doxxed people, has admitted to doxxing them, and has spewed enough provably wrong "facts" to ruin his credibility for 3 lifetimes in his argument with H3H3 alone.
If he tells me that it's raining outside I will go and look. Because I may not know what wether it is, but I do know for a fact that it isn't raining.
At some point it falls to him to provide proof. If he can't back his wild accusations up with at least a shred of evidence, then no matter how often he screeches them into his mic, I'm just gonna assume he's lying once again.
@@Ryn0_333 if only it worked
@@Mawyman2316 no system will be perfect. With all of its flaws, it's still one of, if not, the best.
"I think that's a bit of a reach.." you clearly don't know Keems audience.
Can still see his point though. There's enough stuff against Keem. You don't need to keep fight for the weaker accusations.
@@theraven268 They aren't weak though, there is PRECEDENT of his call out leading to targeted long time harassment and there is video proof of Keemstar KNOWING that.
@@Laroac yeah, but if one of your accusations against the opposing side can be disproven, it will be disproven and ultimately weaken the true accusations.
@@eisgnom7383 you can't reason with fans of either side. Both of them willingly forsake logic so they can rage online. Keem is a terrible person but so is Ethan nowadays (or maybe always has been idk).
@@eisgnom7383 thats not how it ever works, you imbecile lol
Keemstar: it's bad parenting that he made his kids watch netflix and didn't make sure the kid didn't touch the dog.
Also Keemstar: Daddyofive did nothing wrong!
The cat fish literally said in the first message that they were reaching out to him because of the keemstar video...
he wanted to be neutral so bad that he started sounding dumb.
@@infernalz1337 the problem is that any1 can harrass tony and just say "I did it for keemstar"
Imagine if we used the same logic in a New Zealand shooting incident where the shooter said "subscribe to pewdiepie"....should we blame that incident on Pewds?
@@infernalz1337 keemstar never said any1 to harrass tony..
@@infernalz1337 how is he implying that exactly? by talking about other people? theb i guess scarce is also implying to harrass people lmao
dont get me wrong, keems an asshole, but this kind of opinions are retarded
@Daniel Menefrego stop what? having my own opinion and just be a sheep that screams "KEEMSTAR BAD"? Should i just use anything to paint keem as a bad guy while considering every1 against him as good guys even tho its fucking retarded thing to do?
LOL someone commented "MAK`GORA" when Keemstar wanted to box H3
😂
What a legend...
If he doesnt accept the makgora he got no honor. he shall be exiled out of the horde
It was me :)
Imagine messing with an old man just trying to play video games WeirdChamp
Messing with old men? Cringe!
Who would have expected that, consedering you've got all these honorable and respectful people gathering here on the internet.
Keemstar is a fucking -2Head LULW
Nanide the internet is a place of gentlemen
@Kensei emotes are literally a large part of the twitch community and this community in general. We watch asmongold so why wouldn't we say the stuff the chat says. we literally watch his streams, and as you can see this is how chat talks. we are watching a vid about a streamer so...
Didn't Tony have like 20-30 viewers before the whole Keemstar fiasco? How would you even find a channel like that, let alone attempt to catfish the person running it, for any other reason than having found out about it through Keemstars accusations? To me it's rather obvious Keem is very much involved in the catfish attempt, even though he might not have directly ordered or taken part in it. That being said, I respect Asmon's way of trying to analyze things before jumping to any conclusions or taking sides. But in this case, I really don't see the arguments he's trying to convey regarding Keem's involvement in the hate Tony is still getting to this day. As for Keem, how about actually addressing what you're accused of with concrete evidence, instead of projecting and digging up 3 year old drama from someone else to get your point across (which has already been addressed) ?
@@ExarchGaming
"keem obviously either was directly involved, or at the very least knew what was going on."
And you *know* this... how, exactly?
@@roadent217 you cant legitimately think that a twitch channel of an elderly man that was getting low viewers, keem legit brought millions of eyes on tony, its INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST to say that and yall know it. and also why is asmon and yall hinging on this point, it was never implied that tony and h3h3 brought up the catfisher to put blame on keem even more. you know who did bring up the catfishing story that hes known about for 2+ years and knows has already been explained by tony, oh yeah keem did that i wonder why. yall need to actually call it out for what it is, keem doesnt acknowledge virtually anything hes done, but deflects extremely hard.
The issue with the catfisher is the same as the issue with the SWATter in the other video.
The police officer should not have shot the man. But the police officer would never have been there if the dude hadn't called in a swat team.
The catfisher should not have catfisher Tony, but he would have never been there unless Keemstar called him a kidder diddler.
If the SWATter should go to jail Keem should be blamed for the catfish. If Keem is not responsible for the catfishing then the SWATter shouldn't be sent to jail.
That's what I don't understand with his stance. Going by his words then Keem never did anything wrong. Etika chose to commit suicide and nothing Keem said can be linked to his death, there's no proof. Same for doxing. Same for everything until he actually physically acts.
The thing is, Keemstar is bringing it up now, in 2020, in a video that's supposed to be about Ethan. Seems like he doesn't know what he's doing, so he's just trying something desperately.
The most evil people are those who can commit horrible actions while avoiding blame.
@Evan Zuppardo yes actually, hilariously we actually learned that in my college political law class. Most politicians these days fall in this category because they grew up in the cold war.
Like h3h3 censoring valid videos against him as blacklisted through you tube?
@@gabe5363 while that's likely, I don't think it's right to make assumptions. Or at least, if we aren't going to make assumptions on Keem without evidence it wouldn't be fair to do the same with Ethan. But he really did then yes absolutely.
infinity 777 So basically, women in general?
@@user-rr3qg7ei4v either you're bad at telling jokes or you have serious issues.
With respect, I feel like you’re wrong on Keem bringing up the Catfish story. I feel like Keem is a master of semantics, able to word things in a way in which leaves a backdoor for him to get out of so he can be like “I wasnt saying hes guilty pr innocent, I’m merely stating there was this catfish story, tony i wont tell them your catfish story, you explain the catfish story, the least I could do is bring up the catfish story, and give your side of the catfish catfish catfish.
Asmongold's own mod Maylinn participated in harassing the Runescape streamer for weeks and weeks and weeks.
yep.. I commented this before as well. he was one of the most vicious, I remember seeing him in that chat attacking him and knew his name was familiar to Asmon's mod... pretty fucked up but I doubt Asmon even knows tbh.
@@omarali262 Probably not, knowing Asmons ban list he would have probably banned the mod if he knew. I often think Asmon is a bit of an asshole to people but one thing you can't fault him on is him banning people that are assholes to other streamers for no reason.
The catfish in the messages says she's messaging him because of all the drama / hate he was getting. the keem drama
I dont really know much about Keemstar, before this I had only heard the name. But it seems like he bases his thing on drama? Is that it? Everything I see surrounding him is bound in gossip and drama, and it just gives me a fucking high school vibe.
@@runthemeows1197 You nailed it.
@@runthemeows1197 old man who tries to act like he's a teenager, nvm teenagers are more mature than keem
He mixes in actual news and drama into his videos so his fans get confused and think everything he says is news and 100% true
Yeah, kinda don't get his logic here, of course it's not 100% Keems fault, as that would mean he orchestrated it but since his channel spurs on attacking people it's not 50% either. It's more.
btw he also has 2 "l"'s in his name and those are easy replaceable with an "i", dont need photoshop or anything. and oh what a surprise there are 2 twitch accs that suspiciously have the names:
rsgioryandgold
and
rsgloryandgoid
seems kinda strange to have that name what a coincidence 👀the guy cant even delete his traces
The fact that 50 ppl liked this makes me sad.
@nerd Surfer to make a conclusive assumption based on something as minor as that, its kinda ridiculous. My youtube account name, is my gamerhandle. Been using it for around 2 decades. Never had an issue making new characters. 2 years ago suddenly i log into games, try make char, "name unavailable, already taken". Someone can at whatever moment choose to take your name. For whatever reason. Then someone else can similtaniously choose to want that name also, or i can say fuckit i still want my name, and we could make an acc named nanidee. To assume one or another is the owner of the original account based on 1 letter difference in gamerhandle, its far fetched. U wouldnt be able to take that claim to court lemme tell u that.
@nerd Surfer so all you can say for sure based on this, is that there is a second account with a similar name. Hell maybe it was even someone who had this name before tony did. So that basicly tony took his name forcing the other guy to slightly adjust it. This is just as much speculative but just trynna point out its kinda sad these youtube detectives conclude a case based on "theres another account with an l instead of an i"..
@nerd Surfer amen
@nerd Surfer "wise men speak because they have something to say, fools because they have to say something" - Plato
Next from Keemstar: "I'm not going to tell them about the bodies in your basement! That's up to you!"
"I'm not not going to tell them about the kid touching the dog's dick, thats your story to tell!"
lets be honest if keem never mentioned his name nobody would make him a target
But once he did make that video what do you think he should have done to fix things?
Its the only reason a troll pretended to be in love with Tony in the first place. In fact, if this "evidence" was used in a courtroom it would be considered entrapment.
Also lets be honest, if keem never mentioned him ,he would never have a following over 100 people
“Your words have consequences”
yea your right
“Thank god it’s only ten minutes long” makes reaction a 44 minute video. Nice 👍🏻. Love ya Asmon
34 mins of bonus content
its not him who makes video
The problem with Asmongold’s logic here is when you choose to do and say the things he’s done and hurt the people he’s hurt with 0 consequence, you no longer get the benefit of the doubt from the communities involved, therefor Keemstar is 100% responsible for the cat-fishing happening. It derived from his irresponsible reporting. There were no repercussions from his false reporting because he’s created this sinkhole of bad entertainment where he destroys reputations and lives and calls it news, and nothing legally can be done about it, so then it grows and grows into this monster of a problem it is today. When someone is evil in the face of society and can’t be touched legally is when mob mentality takes over and society implements it’s own justice, i.e. social justice. This battle is going to keep going and going until Keemstar gets shut down, which if I had to bet, will probably happen sometime this year. The thing that I can’t understand is why Asmongold chose that hill to die on, so to speak. Like, it’s not even that relevant of a point to defend, just seems like the smallest part of the story is what he chose to focus in on
I believe it might have something to do with the fact that if no one chooses to see every situation with an open mind, and try to be objective, there is a larger chance of someone being punished for something they didn't do. Exactly like Tony experienced. Now that's not to say that Keemstar specifically, deserves this open mindedness, but rather that this is a healthy way to look at drama like this in my opinion.
I do agree that Keemstar holds a fair amount of responsibility for that situation, without a doubt. However, I don't think he's 100% to blame. I'm not saying that in an attempt to justify his actions, not at all, but the reason I'm saying it is that if 100% of the blame for the cat-fishing falls upon Keemstar, then that leaves 0% of the blame for the person who actually acted out the cat-fishing. If the two of them are going to have their own responsibility for it, then they can't each individually be 100% responsible for it (the total responsibility of the two is of course 100%), and if one of them is 100% responsible then that means the other person is innocent of it and has no responsibility for their actions. Maybe I'm wrong, but it currently makes sense to me at least.
Nah man. That is just witch hunting. You are delusional
It's not jus about whether that accusation is true though. We CANNOT prove it. I think Keem has done enough shitty things that if you won't drop this one you make him look better because you don't seem willing to see his side at all. I just feel trying too hard to link him with the catfish thing makes it seem like people just want him to be at fault in everything instead of what he has provably done.
"therefor Keemstar is 100% responsible"
That's not how the law works, and if you want to come back and say "well, this isn't the law, it's public opinion," then you need to research WHY that isn't the way the law works. Hint: Because it's illogical and immoral to work the way you suggest. Sure, fair enough that people don't give the full on "benefit of the doubt," but turning that up to 11 and just saying whatever happened is definitely 100% his fault? Absurd.
Keem: we are both adults
Keem 10 second later: KMON, LET ME FIGHT YOU BRO
There’s a lot more to this drama, Keem twisted Tony’s old manager words, the manager came forward on Twitter about it, for example, idk there’s a lot of stuff that keem changed to fit a narrative
Also, the Woody situation was also heavily twisted by Keemstar, Woody made a video explaining everything
he enable his viewer to swat someone on stream
for that kind of person anything isnt below them
can you link that?
What's his twitter?
I'm glad somebody in the chat sent him to 3 minutes, 20.
His chat is bizarre-- They hold all of the evidence he's asking for but it takes them so long to give it to him.
I mean, if Asmon would actually pay attention to the videos he wouldn't have missed it. Yes, he also has to be in comment/content mode, so it is somewhat understandable... but still.
@@noenken True, but if somebody misses a moment in the video, and you have the power to send hin there, you may as well save some time instead of demaning he take your word for it.
And yeah, trying to say enough to make it transformative while trying to keep track of the chat and donations probably isn't helping him.
@@Preacher_. Pepega Clap
D.C. Gold Its not that, it's just that he formulated his opinions prematurely without seeing the full scope of things, the exact thing he was accusing his chat of. Don't get me wrong, asmongold is a smart dude, what he says has merit.
currently watching it and im really glad that someone showed him, cause it was so excruciating to watch him not know
I've spent many years with toxic people in my life, and I learned to cut those people out of it. When I hear Keem talk, my toes curl and red flags start popping up. I think for a man convinced mental health issues are a myth, he certainly has a few that he needs to address.
The catfish literally said they “took notice cause the internet controversy”
But that don't means they saw keemstar video. They could have heard it second hand
@@TheBrazilRules eventually it circles back to keem though.
I love how willing asmon is to disagree with his audience. Its very refreshing to watch.
because the shit they're saying is retarded and asmon is 100% right
Exactly. Asmon is also almost always smarter than his retarded chat.
@@billy-gl4gp usually but hes wrong here. Keemstars actions literally laid the ground work for the catfishing and he obviously is insinuating its a true story.
Hes usually right but in this scenario it's pretty clear keem was trying to sow seeds with the catfish accusation.
@@Deminese2 I just think H3H3 was the wrong person to call out Keemstar. Keemstar is not that different from any other CZcamsr so this is like the kettle calling the pot black. Like if literally.... Anyone else called out Keemstar we wouldn't have added drama like sponsorship take downs against people you disagree with. If you go into this scenario thinking it's black and white you miss all the little nuances that will affect the bigger picture in the end. At the rate H3H3 is going this is just a shit slinging competition and everyone is getting shit on.
It's a clear case of the bad faith fallacy, the way Keemstar brought up the catfishing story, a story that was dead and buried back in 2017. Look at it from a perspective of ethics, and why journalists don't do the same shit Asmon.
Especially in a society where people's faith in journalism has been tested and a POTUS that takes every opportunity to attack the news media. Doing stuff like keem does would end the career of any real journalist.
Thing is I get Ethan has done douche things. Maybe even equally douchey things. But he doesnt pretend to be a news source, thats the key difference if you want to be in the place where theyre both pricks
Hannah Cassar I agree with everything you said except the comparison to Ethan. Yes Ethan has done douche things. But how the fuck are they on level of Keemstar? Ethan has literally said some poorly aged jokes... Compared to making fun of mentally ill people and then on of them killing themselves, false pedo accusations with no evidence, making a news story of a 8yr old autistic child “jerking off”, need I go on? Name one thing Ethan has done that’s on the same level
@@Hanloss yeah, dunno if Ethan is as bad as keemstar, but he isn't a saint from what I've seen said about him. Keem only pretends to do news so he can stay on the platform, I'm sure. I've actually never seen either or their content before this squabble and honestly only care about the people that are negatively impacted for views.
What a world, all the allegations made are years old, but you think saying the response is old is an actual answer. The human race, 2020
36:45 I like how some people in chat start having an existential crisis realizing that an 8 year old in 2012 is now halfway through highschool
When Asmon said "isn't that a bit of a reach?" I was like dude you said and use the same logic when you argue with Keem on Twitter.
ikr? i generally think he contradicts himself multiple times reacting to this
‘Thank God it’s only 10 minutes long’ video is 40 min
Look at the new keemstar video
I like your work Mr Putin, especially when you had the cleansing of Oboomers people in Russia;)
Плоти нологи
"I don't care how many people hate me for speaking facts because truth is not a democracy" - Asmongold
That is a actually a really good quote
A real shame he was using this actual good argument on something he was wrong (thinking the catfisher would have never found rsgold trough keemstar)
@@DradthemercenaryXV he owned up to it immediately when chat pointed it out though. And his point still stands. Both of these middle aged millionaires we're watching yell at each(not just keem) are being intellectually dishonest as asmongold stated, while he is just looking at the facts and forming his own thoughts from those instead of just parroting what one or the other is saying. I can't stand either of these guys to be clear.
@@MohawkSquirrel The issue is, he obsessively repeats this type of action. He argues in Keem's defense of something with false facts, or he takes false information provided by Keemstar and says "these are the facts" before then being proven wrong in the next minute of the video or by chat.
Something he ends up getting away without realizing at the end, Woody didn't put his son at the attention of his stream. His son was in the background, and Keemstar stan creeps were watching for his son to do anything weird throughout the whole stream, and Keemstar even admits to looking for it.
It's not Woody's fault for not locking his son away, it's Keem's fault for going after Woody's son and looking for anything embarrassing or bad to spread about Woody and the WORST part was that in the end, ASMOND AGREED WITH KEEM. He fell for Keemstar's underhanded manipulation, and fed into his bs, even if he still admits Keem's a terrible person.
Now we can wait for the 6 hour video of Asmongold reacting to H3's 3 hour video reacting to Gokanaru's 1.5 hour video.
Asmongold is, in my opinion, a very intelligent and open person, who has a surprisingly clear cut view of the world. But he also sometimes says things that are morally questionable and, in some cases, flat-out wrong. Like, for example, him defending Keemstar when it comes to his responsibility for the tony catfish story. Here's how I see it:
Imagine that USA and Russia go at it once more in a nuclear war. And the president of Russia drops a nuke on New York, effectively killing millions. Is he directly responsible for those deaths? YES! Without a question he is. Now, due to the subsequent radiation, emitted from the nuke, decades into the future children born in that affected area will suffer physical abnormalities and mutations, illnesses and such, as a result of said radiation. Did the president directly put cancer in that child? Did the president go into the mother's womb and give the child an extra thumb? Not directly. But do those families suffer AS A RESULT of the president's actions? YES, THEY DID!
In that sense, was Keemstar directly responsible for Tony getting hate after he made his initial 'report'? Yes, he was. But he was ALSO responsible for the subsequent fallout afterwards! You can't defend Keemstar by saying "the catfish has no correlation to Keemstar" or that "the person who was catfishing was independent" BECAUSE the only reason tony got catfished in the first place WAS Keemstar's absurd 'report'. No ifs, ands or buts! Anyone who even thinks of defending Keemstar in the way Asmongold did is, in my eyes, completely wrong and should think things through more carefully.
Well put and a fitting metaphor considering the theme of Ethans videos
There is a situation where Keemstar's report would have caused no person to catfish Tony. The person that catfished Tony had the choice of doing it or not. While a Nuclear Bomb is almost guaranteed to emit radiation and therefore cause negative health effects on people living/born there.
@@TheDeterminer that "situation" is moronic if you have massive fan base you are responsible for the information you give out. there is a know thing called correlation. keem called this dude a pedo and went off stating information "slander" without any proof what so ever. so millions of people watch this and the seed is set. video=infomation=truth=track down this person and attack them. its only after the mob has attacked keem was like "ow i was wrong" but by then 100 if not 1000s have seen the video and will never watch another one. keeping the idea this man is a pedo. which made some dude try and catfish to try catch this pedo in the act. so yes keem is responsible for this.
asmon is very middle ground. which is sometimes good but when there so much water under the bridge. showing that he is wrong he still sits there on fence.
@@aiden5star5 - Being responsible for giving out information is not the same as being responsible for everything people DO with that information. Keem's obvious attempt to get people harassed and maybe SWATted is one thing, that is a predictable consequence of his doxxing (covered in a previous video), but you cannot say the same thing about this fishing story. There's plenty of evidence he encouraged harassment of Tony but not of this type (maybe he did, but the evidence is weak). He's a sociopath so I don't doubt he likes to see even that level of harassment, but the connection is flimsy compared to the other types of harassment he's encouraged.
This analogy is completely off because you're cutting out the fact that there is another level of responsibility in-between the nuke being dropped and the effects of the radiation i.e. the guy doing the catfishing. The only way you can make Keem directly responsible is by changing the chain of events.
To make your analogy actually relevant, after Russia nuked New York an unrelated third party, let's say China, would have to come in and nuke Los Angeles. They may have been inspired by the actions of Russia, they may even have been taking advantage of the chaos caused by Russia's actions, but Russia isn't responsible for the second nuke.
I'm not defending keem, I think he's a massive degenerate and the internet would be better off without his presence. But the mob mentality of the people that went after him was utterly lacking objectivity and was entirely driven by emotion, hence people's inability to accept asmon taking any kind of nuanced approach to the situation. This is a pattern of behaviour that's been exhibited time and time again on the internet, and in the long term it's going to do far more damage than keem or ethan ever have on their own.
The editors are really fast, I just watched this.
Yup, I watched a little longer than this on stream and then switched over to YT and it was already up. Minus YT encoding time, these videos must be produced pretty much on the fly. It's impressive, honestly.
@@noenken well this editing its just cut the points of content thats gonna be uploaded
@@carlosdiromero It still has to be captured first, imported, cut, intro zoom, end card, more often than not the audio must be filtered to remove music and so on. I know it's not complex at all but it has to be done in minutes.
Christian Nönken they use scripts and macros
@@novaz8936 Yeah, and fire and the wheel... Someone still has to do it. Macros and scripts won't cut content in the right places...
I disagree with Asmon's take that it is dishonest because this whole scandal was initiated because of Keem's initial claims
bingo. you win the internet.
I just think that both of them are pure trash, and both deserve to be punished... and leave the oldman alone
Does anyone realize that we’re feeding into their ego they want attention their attacks on each other are self destructive both of them are immature children
Remember when this about Etika being bullied by Keemstar?
@@tylercafe1260 no it's about a pattern of irresponsible behavior by keemstar.
The catfish literally said in the screenshot they reached out because of the Keemstar story. It's the same as the point you made in a previous video about a swatting. If the guy wasn't doxxed, there would have been no swat ending up with a man being killed. In this case, if there wasn't a bogus story, he wouldn't have been targeted by a catfish.
Tony has since passed away, rest in peace my man.
Keem's parents had the benefit of foresight, they knew their kid was gonna be a huge douche bag so they gave him up so they didn't have to deal with his demonic antics.
Dude… the supposed (I'm no expert) "fake" evidence surfaced in 2017 supposedly...
Keem's allegations are from 2016?
He started it. The catfishing is a DIRECT result of Keem's actions.
He DOES have something to do with it.
It's no reach. There is an attempt to frame Tony, because of Drama alert's false news. There is quite a clear cut correlation to the two.
I agree but say you thought you had some evidence that a guy was a pedophile. You went to the police, but it turns out that he wasn’t actually a pedo. A couple years later, these kids beat the shit out of the “pedo” because of allegation. You wouldn’t be charged with accessory to a crime. But without you, the man wouldn’t have been beaten up
@@joshhusband8147 I can't follow your explanation and hope you can explain it into more detail.
But I think I can guess what you mean… so here it goes...
You think you have evidence, you bring it to the police. Yes...
They'll investigate it properly.
Where do the kids come from? If you gave it to the police… you gave it it to the right authorities...
No one else.
If you mean media might pick up on it, then it certainly isn't true that you're responsible.
The police might have leaked it then… and that's a moral problem for them, specially if investigations are still on going, I believe.
The media meanwhile will have to hold to a moral standard normally aswell. They have to make clear there is an investigation and allegations. Not like Keemstar, who acted as if it was set in stone. He stood behind his mistake originally and didn't rectify it immediately, unlike Asmon claimed, by the way.
Media has been taken to court over false news before, like MAGA kid, and have been fined for it.
@@joshhusband8147 well, that isn't completely the same as what happened here. Keem reported the pedo story in early 2016, and the same month these guys start harassing Tony. And to make it even worse they even use "all this internet bullshit"(i.e. the pedo story) as the backstory as to why the character they played contacted Tony.
That is direct cause and effect. Keemstar laid the groundwork for the following year of harassment by reporting a fake story. And therefore this is partly his fault too.
Carl Hansson I agree with you, without keem, the cat fishing story would have not happened. But we cannot act like keem consciously and knowingly created the catfish story. But I do think keems a piece of shit
@@carl_hansson He also didn't back down originally, if I remember correctly. I remember seeing some short vine style vids and maybe some streams segments talking about it... untill one day he retracted the statement on drama alert.
But... that's the sole thing he did… retract via drama alert, as far as I know, unless someone knows otherwise. But, let's ask ourselves what if someone only had seen Keem's stream and didn't watch the vid.
This would be another thing in which he could be held accountable, I believe, as he didn't retract his statement in equal proportion to his allegations.
11:54 "Everything everywhere was wet when i walked outside this morning, but you can't prove it rained"
20:53 Is that said, ironically? That's kind of you to afford that to him considering the topic.
22:53 absolute gold.
24:32 at this point, that's a stretch. No longer giving keem the benefit of the doubt that catfish wasn't directed by him.
The catfishing was highly likely to have been inspired by keemstar.
I understand why Asmon takes this stance. If he agreed keem was responsible for the catfish then he would also have to agree the actions of Asmon's toxic fans would be his fault too.
Either way it still isn't 100% their fault, they can't control people especially thousands into targeting someone, and no neither of them told their fans to attack
Asmon has never condoned hate towards anyone as far as I know. Keemstar actively encourages his' fanbase to harass people.
It's different.
To be honest, I'm just glad that Asmon at least says it's 50% Keem's fault. He used to be more on the edgy "sceptosphere" side. I remember a conversation on a podcast (maybe Rajj's show? Not entirely sure) with the topic of "Is a streamer/CZcamsr responsible for his fans" and back then I'm pretty sure he gave a clear no as an answer, although that's just objectively not true. Just compare any of the "bad" Twitch chats that are just mindless, often times racist, spams and then look at CohhCarnage's chat which is super chill and orderly. It's all about what kind of community you want to grow.
That's why I would rather say that Keem is more like 80 or 90% responsible in this case. You still can't control the actions of everyone obviously, but with the kind of person he is (aka a fucking asshole) and with the kind of drama content he makes, it is very clear that a significant percentage of his community is out for blood and would harrass someone. Keem has to know this so he's either lying or just fucking stupid. That's why I feel more of the responsibility falls on him. Asmon's community still has a somewhat decent amount of "edgelords" who think it's just so funny to repeatedly spam black emotes when there's talk about a black guy in a video and that kind of stuff, but it's gotten a lot better in general and he finally stopped some blatant racism and shit like that in his community during his own learning process, from what I can tell.
@@asokta that's the argument that's no where near being solved. Keem didn't encourage it outright. It was implied. You can make the same argument about Trump's racist dog whistling. People have free will to listen and act on information from anywhere or anyone. As far as I'm concerned only your parents can take responsibility for your actions and that stops at 18.
@@KiIowatt If that's the case than you simply do not understand human psychology. I mean I can just throw out anyone who has a mental illness is not going to be responsible for their actions. There are many times where we are not as in control of our actions as we like to think we are, brain chemicals are a powerful force. Of course the quest to achieve control over those urges is a noble one. For better or worse, humans are not rational-thinking robots. If you have an audience, you have some responsibility for any mob mentality actions they may take. I don't think it's a stretch to blame Hitler for convincing Germans to hate their neighbor, he took advantage of the circumstances and manipulated the people to his goals. This has been known for centuries, it is just new to the internet. Just look at almost any psychology study, I suggest you look up Milgram's Obedience experiments.
The catfish story indeed was related to keemstar’s accusations because it was one of his fans who tried to frame Tony.
Edit: it was actually proven by a guy who has watched Tony for years.
This person literally said (there is proof) to Tony that “she” felt bad for all the drama (keemstar’s drama)that happened.
@Elaine Exactly I just watched Toni's video on his true unbiased side!! He goes in on how much of a liar Keemstar is!!!
Did she say she watched Keem's video and the video where he corrects himself? Or did she just hear the rumors and run with it like a piece of shit without doing any research? As I've said to the other commenters, Keem is a piece of shit, but this specific thing is maybe 10% his fault at most. If the catfisher had even watched his correction video, this wouldn't have happened. He did everything in his power to let people know Tony wasn't a pedo and the person still rolled with it.
Okay then by that logic if Asmon says something bad about someone once he takes that back but some retarded fan starts bullying that guy is it Asmon's fault? Or maybe the guy who literaly did it?
Aukora I never even said it was “keemstar’s fault”, read again. I said it was RELATED. Y’all are so focused on trying to pinpoint who is on keem or ethan’s side that you miss the point entirely. I never even said keem didn’t do enough; I watched the ex manager’s whole video and keem did try to make things right, but that doesn’t mean the catfish story isn’t RELATED to keemstar’s first video.
Seriously guys, y’all need to fucking chill. Did I ever say it was keem’s fault? No. Did I ever say it was the kid’s fault? No. I just said the catfish story is indeed RELATED to the first video keem made on tony; the fact that y’all took my words as “it is keem’s fault” shows how y’all are so focused on whose side people are when there are literally no sides but just facts and what is right or wrong.
the look on asmongold's face around 8:00 when he realized his entire take on the video has been totally wrong lol
8:00 is when he talks about Tony being Hef
The problem with his beginning argument is that the “claims” would have never existed if not for the initial mistake made by Keem
*EYES CLOSE, HAND ON FACE, LIPS SLIGHTLY OPEN*
"Thank god, it is 10 mins long" the vid is 44 mins xD
I came here to say this.
@@PersonalMunchies so did 5 others it appears lol
Pausechamp
Your outro music makes me feel like a kid again! And your perspective gives me hope. Thank you asmongold stay true as always brother!
When we got to the kid part; I felt myself shaking with anger...
You have to remember that Keemstar didn’t respond to everything that Ethan accused him of. He didn’t mention the racism, false allegations he keeps spreading as facts and the self obsessiveness keem keeps showing in that he can never accept faults unless it’s super obvious.
Oh also the bullying, attempts to ruin other people’s lives/careers and views on mental health.
Keem clearly can’t respond to this because this shit is absolutely undefendable so he just tries to ignore it and hope every1 forgets. There is a reason Keem’s response video was half the length of the content nuke video.
Keemstar replies to one or two accusations in a very loud and obnoxious fashion. His viewers see his feigned confidence and think “he must be right then.” All to draw the eyes away from the 20+ other accusations levied against him. He’s the slimiest man on this entire site.
Or it's half the length because Ethan invested a month while Keem had less than 12 hours. It's no different than a "Destiny" debate of where he riddles off three or more claims and expects you to answer all three of them at once while never allowing a counter question.
You're just another H3H3 cultist.
@@gmoney9469 h3h3 and keemstar fanboys malding. LUL
Johan Edfors 1) racism was addressed a Long time ago. Tho I agree for the false allegations
Aladdin Jr I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it wasn’t because keem was already old when he expressed those views, old enough to understand what he says can be offensive. He also said these racist remarks in such a disgusting way that it’s hard to think he wasn’t extremely racist. Like, they were obviously not jokes which is the other reason I have a problem with it.
"Is Keem responsible, even though someone else was acting independently?"
Well, we seem to agree that SWATTING makes the SWATTER responsible, even if police independently pull the trigger."
keem had left him for 18 month, a random person catfished tony, pretending to be 16, keem i repeat knew nothing of this
Keemstar is a piece of shit, but to say he is reasonable for the catfish bullshit is ridiculos. It's like saying it's Martin Scorsese fault that Jodie Foster got some haters because they wouldn't know who she was if it wasn't for him making her famous. Would the scumbag have found the GloryandGold without the publicity from the Keemstar scandal? Probably not, but neither would most of his fans.
@@thetruthofit398 considering this happened for a year and the person came during January 2016, same month the Keemstar allegations were released, it seems very likely the person was a keemstar fan.
Do you think that he would've gotten catfished if he wasnt getting these false allegations? No, I dont think so. Keem caused this due to his false reporting in the first place, and his fanbase added more to it.
Now I dont think comparing someone's fanbase to themselves is fair, but he made a mistake, hasnt taken down the video, and continues to deflect even though he should acknowledge the fact that this wouldnt have happened if he would have done a small amount of research
@@furen4962 LOL IT IS ON RSGLORYANDGOLD NOT TO FALL IN LOVE WITH 16 YR OLD
@@thetruthofit398 considering it said 25, not 16, there is no issue with it. He didnt know. He got set up, by a keemstar fan, which the catfish clearly addressed the drama in the first message of the conversation. He started talking to a 25 year old, not a 16 year old. Did you even watch the video?
the best part of this whole thing is watching you try to be logical about it and TRYING to get your chat to do the same lol. but watching how you look at it i did take a step back and go "okay yeah maybe i am jumpin on the hate train a lil too easily" and that doesnt happen enough today
How could you not jump on the hate train when there’s so much more besides this one story
@@Nashh_enry to be clear i think keem is human garbage. but still you gotta really look at both sides but to make sure.and honestly keem basically used this reveal of the catfish story to try to steer focus off him regardless of how he worded it. he is attacking in his passive aggressive "im not the one who did it" kind of way. which shows he is a sociopath and if you watch h3. every time keem has any backlash from youtube or anything for some dumb reason he attacks h3 cause he is crazy and i think really h3 dropped this because they were tired of the dude constantly blaming them for his own idiocy
the best part of this is watching it later and seeing the next part is keemstar vs asmond on twitter lmao
32:25 THIS WHOLE THING WOULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED IF KEEM ACTUALLY ANALYZED, AND PROCESS THE FACTS THE FIRST TIME!!!!
Asmongold: "Thank god it's only ten minutes long..."
Keem: Releases a 1 hour 35 minute video
Asmangold's thoughts: "This just isn't gonna hold up in court."
Accusations make you a target. And for some folks even when the accusation is disproven it won't matter they need that bad guy. So at that point innocence doesn't matter to folks like that and Keemstar originally put that idea out in the ether.
100% of the chat: it's 10 min only "video 44min length"
It was foretold that the great Ian The Idubbbz will return from the land of the simps to end this.
"Truth is not a democracy"
-Asmongold for President 2025
Your an idiot!
@@jacktyrone5772 I'd like a more constructive insult at least.
"thank god its only 10m long"
Asmonbald - hold my wendys
this is perfect, I can watch Asma and also since I hate both of them, I can see how this amazing/cringe/comedic drama is building without giving their chanels any views :D
Exactly!
The difference is Keemstar presents himself as a internet journalist/news reporter. Ethan is someone who talks about current events added with his opinion/ social commentary/ jokes. With how they present their show/ personality Keemstar, should be held to a higher standard then Ethan no matter what at the end of the day no one should take side but recognize this whole situation is a total toxic clusterfuck and youtube twitch or any platform/sponsor shouldn't be happy with either of them.
No, they shouldn't be. Ethan has thrown wild accusations and then defended himself with "I'm not a journo lolololol". If you have a reach of hundreds of thousands of people it doesn't matter if you present it as news or not, you are influencing people all the same. You have to do research and think about what you say.
But in the end, this is a shit flinging contest between 2 parties that should be held in contempt for the same fucking reasons, both are giant hypocrites, do underhanded crap, throw friends and associates under the bus and in my personal opinions, are absolute assholes in general. I hope that no side survives this and both channels will finally sink into oblivion.
Woodys gamer tag extorted his family by telling them, “you fucking kids wanna eat tonight? Then you’re gonna watch this god damn Netflix movie!” Keem has the brain of a four year old, it’s incredible.
I feel like keemstar needed the advice my dad gave me "if there was one thing you could have done differently to change the outcome, it's as much your fault as everyone else's"
It's not independent. I don't know how much clearer a correlation has to be between falsely accusing someone of being a pedophile and then someone trying to frame that person as a pedophile... Both Keem's fault.
Agreed. I was gonna write the same thing.
Asmon says that keem doxing someone makes them getting swatted partially keem's fault, but struggles with keem calling someone a pedo leading to this.
Usually agree with Asmon's takes but in this case even Stevie Wonder could see the correlation
You know if it wasn’t for Ethan and Collins dad, 99% of people would have forgot about the autistic boy touching his dogs penis. The tweets were even deleted from keemstars twitter. Now that it’s on H3H3, you can be damn sure that everyone will remember that he touched his dogs penis when he was 8 years old. Father of the fucking year, screwing you son over to own Keemstar. Bravo! Ethan did exactly what Keem did with tonys catfish story.
I saw the original upload, but i waited until asmon reacted on it.
i enjoy his take on things. dont know much about asmo but he seems chill
It’s nice when someone is objective
I hate how he wouldn't allow Keemstar to take blame for the catfish even know the person who did catfish admitted to talking to RSGold because of the claims Keemstar made. Like how is he not making that connection?
He does make the connection he’s just saying that the person who did was given an opportunity by keem but it was the catfishes will to act on it its not that hard to grasp lol
I'm pretty sure the guy who made the catfish video on Tony said he was directed to Tony via Keemstars video.
The guy was trying to catfish tony to PROVE that keem's story was real, what other motive would there be? Would that person have tried to catfish tony if keemstar didn't run that story? Keem is directly responsible for it and then brings it up as if it's tony's fault LOL.
Indirectly responsible. If someone made a video saying you had tons of gold in your house, and you were robbed, are you going to charge just the video maker or also the robber? Individuals are responsible for their own actions by law. A call to action is different then misguided information, by law and definition. Keem is a goof but don't be a commie with this association crime
Indirectly if a terroist misinterprets the Bible is Jesus or god responsible for Terrorist action no that’s dumb that’s a stupid way to think you aren’t responsible for others actions that would be stupid
@@Toazt42o I'd say this is closer to someone swatting someone else and causing their death, they didn't shoot them but the cops would never have been there in the first place if the call wasn't made. The caller is usually held responsible.
@@silentrebel6564 did keem call the cat fish person directly, give false information, and say people's lives were at stake? Very very different scenarios. Calling swat, saying lives are at risk and something needs to be done is a Call to action. Making a video based on false information is misinformation. Someone acting on that misinformation is still acting on their own will as the misinformation was not targeted to a specific person. Again keem is a goof but please learn a little about law and being subjective vs objective before passing a false judgment on someone..... the exact thing keem did.
@Jordan Churchso thought crime isn't a basically understood law in most communist countries? I'm not pro cap. If that's your next reply. Your subjective trigger are showing
Asmon turning into penguinz0,transforming a 9 min content into 50 min one :D
"thank god its only 10 mins long" he says as the intro to his 45 min long video
Woody is a great and loving father and he's even said in retrospect he should have foreseen something like that happening. His audience was extremely positive about it but outside audiences like keems had just begun really attacking him and at the time he thought it would be a safer environment for him to do some more wholesome family oriented content. Since then he's rarely featured Colin on his channel and doesn't talk about colins personal life as much. He keeps his children way more removed from the public after that. Woody has a great response video to keens response about this. He owns his accountability but also calls out the lies keem says
Please watch Tony’s live from today. He explains how the person started contact with him the day after Keemstar ran the false story and kept it going.
The timeline doesn’t even add up. The person was cat fishing him for 1 year. The first pedophile allegation was 5 years ago, while the catfish story was 2 years ago. There’s a two year gap.
Does tony have proof that it started it the day after?
@@kylevernon the catfish story wasn't two years ago. Tony addressed it in 2017, meaning it happened before that. Could have started being a story a couple months prior to that.
So there 3 years and some change. 1 year for the catfish to make 4 and some change.
Timeline is adding up.
@@kylevernon Also, Tony has shown the text history on stream before.
Lycan the man is being used and could rightfully sue if he wanted. Maybe keemstar should just leave him alone like he’s asked him to. But I’m sure it’s easier to try to destroy an old man than be empathetic or even concerned about his life and well being cuz it’s all about the drama. Right?
@Lycan are you stupid, obviously some old man that nobody knows can't go to war against keemstar he will get destroyed , if you can't endure it anymore of course you gonna try to make peace and get him on your side, if you think he was truly believing the ''nice thing'' he said about keem you are just dumb. If you watch the first H3 video there is literally a clip of tony basically saying he can't endure it anymore and from now on anything someone gonna talk about keemstar he will say that he think he is a nice guy and all that stuff, he literally said he gonna start saying that because he can't endure the harassement.
The person catfishing said she felt bad for the internet BS in turn it’s Keemstars fault
I don't watch WOW nor do i like WOW but i really enjoy Asmongolds reaction videos. He seems so genuine and calm about everything. He's like ASMR without whispering if you will.
“Keep watching”
keem is literally using selective wording to direct things on to tony again i think it may be a habit of his idk but i disagree with both parties this needs to stop to protect the platform
I think he’s being intentionally vague to fuck with tony on purpose because Tony sided with Ethan. Keem had no bad faith against tony until he came out and made his videos playing up the innocent old man.
The platform turned to crap when they started censoring the creators.
Master manipulator moves
Asmongold is taking some serious hot takes early on -- I can appreciate that Zack is open to Keems defense in the start, but the fact he's unwilling to change his opinion on it after the video shows how the accusations clearly influenced the catfishing; what a coincidence that someone spends a year catfishing a guy who was just falsely accused of pedophilia. Can it be proved without a shadow of a doubt? Of course not, but I'd be a liar if I didn't say I wasn't at least 95% sure.
The argument being made of 'keem not being the sole cause of grief' is a weird fabrication. Of course no one is arguing that, not everything in life is the entire problem of a single individual, but Keem was clearly the catalyst for a GIGANTIC amount of the hate pushed towards Tony, especially with his idiotic 'accidental leak' of the old catfishing story, not to mention doubling down on the mistake by then tweeting it as well.
Didn't you just agree with Asmon?
i believe Asmon didn't take Keem's side at all. He just tried to explain what it is. in fact he still think's that keem is a shitty person.
This beef started with things that wernt 100% true but just opinions and 'false news'. Asmon is saying we cant start accusing keem for the catfish because there is no proof that he's behind it. its like when t&e accused asmon for his viewers hating on them when in reality all he did was watch their video and the viewers acted on their own volition (so it was stupid that asmon was getting hate for something his viewers did, kinda like keem and the catfish that has acted independently.
"KEEP WATCHING"
I'd say it's 50-50 Keem and Catfish's fault and here's why. Analogy: One guy doxs a CZcamsr, another guy swats him. They are 50-50 at fault because the first guy ENABLED the 2nd guy's action. Keem in this case is the doxxer.
Same stance i have on that. Asmon pretty much aswell. As long as there is actuall proof that Keem enabled him, of which there is (even tough asmon overlooked that part at first), Keem is as much at fault as the Catfisher.
Asmongold: "I don't watch exposed videos I'm not a loser"
Also Asmongold: Watched 4 videos and made 5+ hours of content on exposed videos
Quit being a smart ass, the only reason he watched them is because his stream requested it, in his own private free time, he doesn't. You know that's what he meant so why be so naive?
@@dakotasavage5397 quit being a bitch
@@KZA061 Because that's a valid argument
hey man gotta get those monetization dollars
Money bitches
In the beginning he said "thank god its only ten minutes long". Keemstar's new video is 1 hour 34 minutes. I wanna see his reaction when he finds out.
@Kaml Toez i think the same and i was not a fan of keem and am still not but he really killed H3H3 with that gokanaru video
"you cant hate on a player man." I actually hysterically laughed during this part.
"i dont like this mischaracterization of keemstar, i think its intellectually dishonest"
-- this comment was made without having any actual information about the catfish story.
talk about hypocrisy
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No, Asmongold knows that the catfish story is fake. What Asmongold is defending is that keemstar had no part in the entire catfishing story. The worst he did is get Tony’s name out there originally and that catfish acted on his own volition.
That’s like blaming Jody Foster for the attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan, where the guy did it because he was in love with Jody foster who hated Reagan and was a popular left winger.
@@kylevernon I think most of Asmon golds responses are some pseudo-intellectual bullshit. To your point, Asmon has no scientific study to prove pretty much any of his arrogant points.
@@MrGoldenApe only people who don't understand what he is saying would say that - otherwise you'd just say he was wrong...
@@v816333316351 Sounds like a flat earth argument, yeah I'm sure i just don't understand what he's saying.
Let me guess, Asmongold continues to defend Keemstar's actions and pretends its for some neutral reason.
YEP fence sitting
Its funny because before on another video people called him "nuanced"
Open head and listen to both sides equally reasonable and objectively. I'm not on keems side but what Asmond is saying makes sense in some degree
Let me guess , Asmongold is reasonable and that hurts your feelings ?
@@telmobrito519 XD true hurts the most
Asmon: "Thank god it's only 10 minutes" me: *looks at video size*, "Oh boy it's going to be a good one"
"He's like Garrosh" Best quote I've ever heard from Asmongold haha
I’d fight him. H3h3, name me as champion
Even though I am completely on h3’s side he should’ve addressed rest of the videos points...
Ethan didn't address those things because he has no valid arguments for why he accused Patrice Wilson of being a pedophile, and he can't claim that it was "just a joke" since he was very serious about his "pedophile vibes" comments on his podcast. He could probably claim his Catholic Church comment was a joke, but he also sounded very serious there as well. Ethan is just as much of a slimy opportunist as Keemstar. They both use people as shields, for views, and to boost their own images.
@@Ploobie86 Keemstar is a bit of a bigger asshole than Ethan. If you listen to the H3 podcast and read his twitter, Ethan comes off like a massive dumbass, but at least he doesn't make destroying people's lives his literal job.
@Gotham Thot Slayer everyone is a hypocrite..people attacking him for being one is stupid imo..no one is a perfect angel , especially people on the internet
"Thank god it's only 10 minutes long"
45 minute long video
I know this is an old vid, but I can't help but wonder if Asmon knows the history behind Woody and Keem and how close of friends they used to be and how this makes it even more messed up how Keem portrays him.
I think the whole thing about the kid's father filming his autistic son, sitting down to watch movies, was to humanise people with autism.
Sure, the son might do some weird shit sometimes, but it might actually help people get over biased first impressions of people that are different.
Thank you asmongold thanks to you I don't need to give either of them views and I can get someone who is calm and rational to play devils advocate and present things in context. Asmon for prez
This beef introduced me to asmongold.
Thanks for being the best channel covering this trash, lol you are the only person on yt who hasn’t taken a side. Haha your reactions are better than the actual video
.... "this one's photo shopped".... XD
Im Autistic and I would actually agree with asmons point on the autistic kid in front of the live stream. 37:15