Live Sound Designs, amazing horn loudspeakers, RCA's, The Capital Audiofest
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They sound Great ! Guess that’s why Klipsch has been basically building the same speakers for over 75 years ! There are no leaps in sound engineering since then. The old speakers sound as good or better than new ones . Love them !
This is one of the best youtube demos I've ever heard. Absolutely stunning. Thank you.
IMHO that is what a high end audio system ought to sound like. Wonderful!
Wow! Amazing detail, huge soundstage, I am amazed that I hear it through a youtube video. Thanks for sharing.
Well, you gotta admit this demonstration is in a perfect audio enviroment.
Excellent sound even when listen via youtube. Forget about silver/gold cables, silver transformers, blablabla.... this is HiFi and this is music!
They don't only sound good but you probably can listen to them off axis too (unlike most horns)...thanks to the multi horn spreader horns.
Incroyable démonstration . J'ai des WE15A qui manquent de graves. Je me demande ce que ce système reproduirait avec un grand orchestre symphonique !?.. et avec de l'orgue ?.. J'ai abandonné les tubes et préfère les transistors avec transfos de sortie comme les McIntosh . Est-ce que quelqu'un a essayé d'écouter ces merveilleuses "Live Sound Designs" avec amplificateur et préamplificateur à transistors ?.. Bravo pour cette merveilleuse reproduction musicale.
Had three of those bins with the MI-9449 15" woofs and the radial HF horns and driver's.The MI-9377 amps came with the system too. Eight amps. They jump a bit better if you feed them some "Alan Parsons project". Sold all awhile ago. Using mostly JBL now.
Excellent system, magnificent sound, we ere really in the concert hall nearby musicians. Thanks
I had the distinct pleasure of seeing and listening through these unique speaker and wow, incredible. I will not attempt to describe using words. If you ever get a chance ....
I hear through a pair of AGB in ear headphones from a Galaxy Note 20 Ultra,and the sound is marvelous.
Amazing ! The Altec 1570B's are modded by a wonderful fellow in Florida named Tom Tutay.
Astounding, after listening to this, I am thinking, what is sound reproduction quality is about. It is not just about flat re-production(response) abilities of the speaker.
Look at the timbre these speakers are able to produce, each and every plucking and the instruments' native activity sounds(like plucking, hand rubbing, finger scratching/rubbing etc. ) are so much well reproduced. Coupled with that, the KILLER Looks :) what else could you want for. Wish more and more consumers become aware of the quality and the timbre these speakers produce and we see more of such work coming in. You could listen to these speakers for hours together without fatigue.
You are absolutely right and it takes a good observer, fine ear and intelligent mind to pick up on such fine details. Imagine how good it sounds in the room, if it is this good online.
Wow! Very enjoyable. Would love to have heard these live.
with Avantgarde audio, one of the best i've heard, just extraordinary!!
Are they Avantgarde drivers used by Live Sound Designs speakers? You get what you pay for.
These must sound incredible, even made my $200 Samsung phone sound incredible, don't know how?
Phones have one thing going for them, treble, and the treble is clean on these babies.
About as real as it gets, just gorgeous!
Magical..............Simply Outstanding!
Now, this is what I call a pair of speakers.
Those horns gives you the impression you are actually there, a bit like your own personal time capturing system.
5 years later, theses are still the best sounding speakers on CZcams.
Make that 7 years later...
Wowww!!❤❤
ohhhh these bass cabinets
Im always a fan of horn loaded spkrs. They're loud and consume less amplification and it lets the sound play in a sweet sonic amplification level. Don't have to crank all the way up till reach the point of distortion. And horns do sounds more immersive. Like swimming in the endless sonic field.
But they can get fatiguing. I only like them with certain music and at lower volumes.
こんなに美しいマルチセルラーホーンは見たことがありません。
I've read all the seemingly well informed replies below -but- nonetheless -I like the way they sound.
Oh my god or something like that .... dream my whole life to have such a system
thank you for listening
Good range and very life like recording.
Sounds amaaaaaazing Sr.
lovely horns lovely soung
Nicest system I've seen in a loooooong time..
Most people can't hear speaker colorations but I can and these definitely sound squawky in the midrange. No doubt there are some nasty peaks in the midrange along with corresponding stored energy (ringing).
What do you find is better? This is only YT but it seems like the sound is fantastic.
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I HAVE HEARD MANY ! MANY ! SOUND SYSTEMS , NONE OF THEM COME CLOSE TO THE SOUND OF THIS ONE !
I JUST WISHED I OWNED A SET OF THESE SPEAKERS .
Turn the light off and the group is stood right infront of you...awsome
Jaw dropping!
I get the reason you use the same piece of excellantly recorded piece of music but Id still rather hear something a bit more band orientated,bass guitar,kick drum etc to hear that bass horn a bit more. Must say though Peter loving the Channel,great show reports and reviews :~}
ElvislaD
It seems like horn system owners/manufacturers tend to showcase their systems using “horns”..... brass, woodwinds and percussion which behaves often like a horn in some sense. I think this choice is made to conceal the inherent coloration of horn systems.
absolutely amazing
atmospheric sound ...
I wish these demos played conventional music everybody is familiar with rather than these special recordings that reproduce well.
Grab a copy!?...this is conventional music!
So sad to know late that those horn sound amazing on hifi .. I've worked in jeddah kaia for the PA system b4 the hajj terminal outdoor pas got thousands of those horns, but all destroyed when they upgraded the terminal
Great sound top
the main problem is everything works well up to one power level ,and when it intensifies everything goes into chaos,,that question has bothered me in recent years why
Easy solution: Play at a lower volume level and you won't get the same problem with standing waves and other distortions from the room.
@@FlowithdaGo Doesn't a proper room for these types of speakers need to be huge? Even bigger than the room these are playing in.
@@alanrogs3990 If you're playing loud, yes. Lower sound levels equals less energy in the room, and therefore the room doesn't matter *that* much.
I've had the opportunity to hear these again after new cables tone arm upgrade and cartridge upgrade. Much improved over this version
The top horns are at least 4 dB too loud, probably 6.
is it really that surprising that it sounds great when you do it right?
I have friends who swear their 5 1/4" midrange can sound just as good as this ....smh
Just wanderful !
Too bad Live Sound Design didn’t gain traction, I’m not sure how you’d get the people who love music and the means to buy them to become aware of this wonderful product. The craftsmanship involved in building these gorgeous Ubangi cabinets is ridiculous. If memory serves me right, he’s also using Great Plains Audio lower range drivers, maybe 516Gs?
yeah....super life sounds.......Clarity Sounds
Wow !!!
They sound pretty dark. Horn Fabrik pleased me more. One needs to get used to the diy look.
Very dynamic. I did not get to hear these at the show. Are these available to purchase?
Redell Napper Hi, Howard Swayne has a website Live Sound Designs, check out his contact info.
Steve Guttenburge would love these, he's a horn nut. But PS Audio (Paul) well, not so much. Paul can have his opinion.
Steve Guttenberg loves everything.
Both of those guys are wooden knob salesmen.
Nice!
😎👍.
Hello! I was going to be using those altec horns with the klipschorn bass bin. Do you know if these horns can go up to 20k hz, to be used in a 2 way? Can't seem to find a frequency range on this horn and you seemed to be doing it that way. Thank you, appreciate it!
The horns should go as high as you want, limited by the drivers you use.
Sound a mite coloured to me. They got that horn "squawk", really peaked up in the midrange. But dynamic and lively too.
can you share some info on the bass bins?
RCA Ubangi
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How much does this system cost, including the mono triode amps???
rustic sound
Love how people say sounds limp, coloured, bright or lacks bass, the mids are +6db to much .....you are listening to the speakers on CZcams that's been compressed to the max....I will place a Internet bet that most of the people that comment on this never even heard a system this capable or close for that matter, hell bet most hear a $2000 Klipsch from Best Buy with $1000 surround sound receiver running in stereo and think that's top of line high quality sound.
Exactly...Thank you. There is one smart person out there!
A shame there's no way fro us to hear what the cameraman hears.
I mean, he literally recorded a video, with sound included.
200! :)
Please take this as positive constructive criticism. I was ready to give a thumbs up until I realized 2/3rd's of the video is "Listening" to the system. You CAN NOT tell what a system sounds like with out being there, period. Even if you had used professional mic's and recording equipment and were able to get close to the quality of the original recording (you cant) the person playing it back on CZcams is only going to have the quality of their own speakers (plus the room reverberation where you recorded it added in). Just stick to the interviews so we can learn from the designers and the decisions making process they used in choosing what they did.
Музыка!!!
Quirky looking speakers...
Amazing system. Now, unfortunately the problem with almost all demos of "vintage" horns systems is that they never use complex demanding material, ideally a full symphony orchestra. They are great with 5 instruments, but how about 100? I am sure they will be - in terms of sheer scale, at least, such systems are difficult to match.
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its..from alien planet ,,,,wtf,,,i live for sound...oooo i love this art horn set......wtf,sorry,,,wtf
big time
you have to draw this line box not
sound*
Jhon Atkinson I will never believe a word that comes out of your mouth
None of the salesmen or designers from all these show videos appear to be genuinely happy people. Perhaps some tiredness from jetlag, moving shit around....but doesn't explain the whole 'energy' around them - it's as if they are very, very depressed. Money, huh? It's a drag...
+EpicDemos it seems to be inversely proportional that the guys w/ some of the most interesting and unique audio equipment play the most god awful music imaginable to demo their products. yawn.
You hit the nail on the head.
Im the owner of this system.F WIW, I'm not rich, and was hung over when the vid was made.
Кто исполняет?
игорь тимофеев Hi, the album is "Sera Una Noche" a 45 rpm recorded by MA Recordings
www.marecordings.com/main/index.php?cPath=61&osCsid=9709b4f971b27eeab1eb54331130c5ea
***** Благодарю!Спасибо!
***** Спасибо!Попробую искать.
These horns have efficiency of around 50% reference, know that a 90db/1w is 1% reference efficient....so most of these 'low efficient' speakers do compress dynamics
You can look at meaningless charts, or you can listen to the speakers. Your choice.
Have you people never heard of rock and roll? Or is this obscure, whatever it is, tooooocooool?
Nursery rhymes are for children, son.
I'd give my left gonad for the RCAs. Thanks
Except it costs a right gonad ;)
I know this recording and sorry but the sound is obviously coloured. The midrange is entirely too forward… 'squawky' is the word. It seems very dynamic and clear though, just needs a little EQing… maybe some work on the crossover will fix it.
Impossible to judge over the internet through secondary speakers, but I never found the LP12 to be suited to horns; colouration in the lower mid/upper bass being the primary issue, plus too mid-dominant sounding with not much bite/attack at the extremes.
SSF... you are correct. This has "horn" colorations quite obviously.
Why don't they ever play real mainstream music? You can't get a grasp of how they sound if you have never heard the music before, nor want to hear it ever again!!
alot of modern music is recorded and mastered wierdly where alot of instraments get muddied together and no matter what you play them on it will sound like crap because thats just the way it was mixed. It sounds fine for listening and enjoying but when your listening for detail and accuracy its just not in the original recording.
There are usually copyright issues that keep the music from being played on CZcams.
If you listen to mainstream music, these are not the right kind of speakers for you. Mainstream speakers for mainstream music.
Klipsch LaScala are the only hornspeakers of interest.
Everything else is either overpriced or underperforming.
my belles sound as good as any la scala I ever heard
NO TOP END on those...period. Coming right out of the driver on an Altec 288G into a standard tube, you're already down -10 dB before it even hits the throat. Efficient, yes..."good?" No. Polar plots of these and the 1502s show "fingering" of the top end with 15 KC down -16 dB on axis with each cell's mouth, similar to the rolloff you get with a modern CD horn. THen there's the issue of the Altecs' famous harmonic distortion due to the squared corners...higher thrid harmonic production than even a lousy early SS amps of the late '60s. Want multicells? You'd be FAR better off with old Community 2X5s and JBL 2440s. Also, the bottom end cuts off on the "Ubangi" bottom bin around 5O Hz as the horn unloads, just like the A2 and A4s. This is not "high fidelity;" this is "colored sound" reminiscent of hi-fi in the '50s, including Paul's corner horn. What used to make up for the lumpy freq response and distortion was the dynamic range then impossible with direct radiators. That's been overcome with better driver designs today and gobs of clean MOSFET power available fairly cheaply. However, a full horn system WILL save on your power bill, a fact not overlooked by owners of large dance halls I've known! A pair of JBL 4331As driven by a Hafler DH-220s would romp all over this rig in all catagories for this program material.
+DeserT BoB All talk of frequency extension, harmonic distortion, horn shortcomings and what not; that's the (highly compressed) song of marketing BS that's supposed to convert us poor saps into avid buyers of products that suffer the fate of an overriding and now long-standing tendency to squeeze sound from speakers the size of milk cartons and amps of newer technology. Any missionary efforts would be better spent (instead) advising people to use their ears, and whether what's heard resemble live acoustic sound - insofar sonic authenticity is sought. Upon listening to the speakers of above video the interviewer exclaims "Super, super sound." Oh, let's just tell him what you wrote above and find out if he'll consider changing his statement. Surely the man must be a brown-noser or someone who has no concept of how to assess good sound, right? Well, go figure; I'd rather go by his hands-on impressions than your hypothetical scribblings. Btw, I like MOSFET-driven amps since I own a 30 watt Class-A MOSFET amp myself, and it's driving my 105+ dB horn speakers just brilliantly..
you mean to your ears the jbl sounds better.
So arrogant...
It's like driving an restored old car, it's for the feels over the specs even though I agree with you.
he's not being arrogant, he's being factual, and for the record he's right...
Now slap a bit of metallica on please
+shaun marshall I was thinking the same thing.Only slayer!
or some Bob Marley Live