Inside the NBA talks Luka Doncic getting MVP trophy in his career
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Shaq finally giving Luka his props, and he's right, he's having one of the best seasons in league history.
shaqs just gonna say the opposite of chuck if chuck said yes shaq woulda said hellll no
"best season's in league history"... 8th seed 😅😅. Numbers mean a lot less if you aren't winning.
@@tonyl7000 Absolutely right. It's NOT a historically great individual season if your team is mediocre. The MVP is supposed to LIFT his team, the "others" around him, not just score in bunches. Westbrook did win an MVP when OKC was only 6th seed, but that almost never happens-- and for a reason.
Nah he a traffic cone on defense
Shaq's been giving Luka props since Luka hooked him up in Slovenia. I don't know why people still keep assuming he's a hater. The last time he was a "hater" was during the bubble season.
Luka is having a monster year statistically. He's improved in every area. FG%, FT%, 3pt%, are all career highs.
yes but makes team worst
@@kasparslange912 i don't think luka is the mvp but that's too far. luka and kyrie are the only reason the team is relevant. without them they're the wizards or hornets. people forget too that luka took the mavs to the wcf not that long ago and that was before kyrie even joined the team.
It makes no sense that his PER is down from last year, he is up in all metrics
@@kasparslange912dude has kyrie and nobody lmao. Watch the game
His team record ass tho
The mvp award is only an individual award, not a team award. Why is Victor wembanyama the front runner for rookie of the year even if they are 13 - 50? How come shohei ohtani wins mvps without ever being in the playoffs?
Totally agree
Because the best rookies are usually on the worst teams, because Baseball is a different sport with it's own traditions/history. I don't agree with it but historically speaking MVP in basketball aren't the best player (even if it should be), it's the best player on a near-the-top winningest team.
@@shibityrussell westbrook won mvp without being a top seed
@@youngsossy6509 there's always exceptions but 90%+ are top 4 seeds. I'm not saying that is how it should, just don't be surprised if he doesn't win it.
@@shibityLuka definitely belongs in that exception then .
I hate how much the team rankings weigh in the MVP conversation. In the race, Luka is leading in points, 2nd in assists, breaking records, 2nd highest percentage of triple doubles in the top 10 all time through all of his games (18.2%) only person higher is jokic with 18.9%. Third all time 30 point triple doubles. Just tied the nba record for most consecutive triple doubles, 2nd ever to hit 5 games in a row. 3rd in the whole league for assists, and 3rd for potential assists per game. Dropped 73 points, 4th most in nba history. How does this all get disregarded when his team isnt converting all his passes and is the reason theyre 8th seed? It's not even his fault, how much more does he have to do
and he's only 25 and most of the season 24. Also 7th in Steals Top 20 in Rebounds and Number 1 for guards. Second most 3pts made in the league so far. Everything is there. And the team is still only three games away from the 5th seed and half of his team has been injured. If this is not an MVP season than I don't know what. And usually he even improves in the POs I can't even imagine where this leads. (if they make it)
Then give it to wemby when the seed doesn't matter.
@@thefebo8987 Wemby's stats do not compare to MVP candidates' yet...
@@thefebo8987 ROTY is different, it doesn’t take into account team strength
Those stats are not giving even play offs for his team, that's why. He is unique, great player but without high rank of his team no chance for MVP.
Chuck: "we don't vote for mvp"
Ernie: "I do🧐"
😂😂😂😂 ernie is slick and hilarious
Finally someone who laughed at that part to hahahahahaha
They’re Detroit without Luka…
I would say that they would be the Raptors
No they’re Detroit and it’s bad! No one on the team can shoot off the dribble or create they own shot. Luka elevates the team so much and I think ppl forget he’s in the stacked WEST!!!! Like I think these guys talk without factoring in so many different points
Don't disrespect Kyrie like that or Dante Exum for that matter@@_004Bz
@@_004BzI wouldn’t say that but the only other person who can truly create besides Luka is Kai I’d say they would be like 11 or 12 seed without Luka more then likely negative
@@_004BzI watch Tim Hardaway and Kyrie drop 40 a piece and a win without Luka. He also didn’t make the playoffs last year and he won his first series he didn’t play in the whole round
Winning should be a factor in mvp conversations but not the only factor.
How much should weight is debatable
Finally an educated take, it’s one variable to be considered that’s all. It’s hurting Luka’s case.
Exactly! I think it would be weird as an 8 seed to give it to Luka, but if the mavs climb to the 5th or 6th seed, he definitely deserves the MVP.
i bet you think the 4th seed is the best to be in
@@binemisko if you’re talking about MVP it’s the most ideal but for playoffs you probably just want whichever one gives you the team you match up best with in the first round.
@@joshahlstrom2764 nah it was a joke. If you play league of legends you would get it
I agree with Shaq, if I average 40 points 13 rebounds and 11 assists shooting over 50 percent but my team is number 8 seed I shouldn’t win mvp, yeah they wild af
also with how the records are right now, imagine the seasons ends 1-8 seeds manage to be like 3-4 games within each other you wouldn’t give a guy the mvp just because they the 8 seed that’s absolutely stupid, also saying anthony edward would get mvp just cuz they the one seed is also stupid like his TEAM is better, a player by himself has to be carrying the team as well
@@Apatheticsetthey don’t have to carry they have to show major impact to their teams success which in this case luka doesn’t.
Why not? MVP is in individual award, isnt it? Should MVPs only be picked from "top3" teams then? Or, to follow your train of thought all the way: MVPs can only be picked from NBA Champ teams?
yes it does because Luka single handed the Mavs half of the season when most of the starting line up was out @@ybwkel5836 Luka had one weak game this season as far as I remember and that was a 19point game. That's the measurements we're talking about.
@@Apatheticsetnot just that as long as he can make the playoffs I don’t see the problem at this point. Was Miami not the 8th seed? Did they not get to the finals? We all going to the same place you just get to face the lesser teams. Which would be funny let’s say ant comes 1st wins mvp faces Luka in the first round and gets bounced then what? 🤷🏼♂️ 😂
“Consideration” if he was a top 4 seed is an absolutely blasphemous take 😭 He’d run away with mvp if he was top 4 and it’s always hilarious these clowns never bring up the mavs being a top 3 injury riddled team all year
Even if we do consider it. The sun has a guy who's led then to a better record and had more injuries to his team and he's not being considered at all.
So I see no reason why Luka should be considered.
@@Christopher._M Luka is highest scorer and triple double machine. Who has better individual stat? It's not Most Valuable Team.
Exactly crazy
anything above a 4 might get him a unanimous mvp LMFAOOOO hes having a top 5 offensive season ever
@@vn_loc7316 individual stats are not the only measures for the MVP. It never was because it's a team sports and that's what all on the panel tried to explain except stubborn Shaq
Way to go Shak, everybody elese is hating Luka and they just making new escuses why not to give mvp to Luka. But still they cant deny that Luka is the best player in Nba right now.
There are more great players this year than in any year in the last 50 or so I've been a fan. Luka is absolutely amazing, but he isn't going to win the MVP with the Mavs in 8th place. When the dust clears, I can't see Shai getting it over Jokic, but if he does, I'll be happy for him. For him to be shooting 54% for the year is truly amazing. While on this subject, Giannis shooting over 60% is amazing as well.
Jokic? 🤷♂️
Its not only the hating Luka, its because the voters cant put two European on 1 and 2 jokic and doncic, because how would that look for the league?
@@alkers372I would take Giannis over SGA
Shak???? 🤣🤣😭😭😭
I’ve always thought of it as if they weren’t on the team how much would the team decline. Without Luka they horrible.
The problem I have is that even with Luka they're clinging to the 8th seed. I don't believe he's bringing as much value as the other stars like SGA who is both carrying his team as well as fighting for the #1 seed.
@rossbrydie937 If you watch the games you would see it's actually the coaching which is the problem.
Kidd gives guys like THJ 20+ minutes when he only scored 3 points. And the only thing that guy does is chucking up shots.
While we have guys like Hardy who is better then him but he keeps getting dnps.
Then you see Kidd give Kleber more minutes then gafford at the C position. Like wtf is he doing.
Or he calls timeouts when WE are on a run.
@@rossbrydie937stop this Shai comparison he ain’t as good as Luka he just got great players around him. Put Luka on the Thunder and they’d win 60 games minimum
Without Luka they wouldn’t be much worse, Kyrie without Luka has been just as serviceable, even without stat padding. Luka’s a special talent but his play doesn’t accommodate his team.
@@rossbrydie937has Shai even made the playoffs lol
He's going to win at least 1. Likely more. Biggest thing holding him back is the Mavs organization.
I think the organization did their part, Jason Kidd is holding the team back
@@LukaTheDon77 The fact he still has a job is the organizations fault. He should've been fired after last year.
@@connor_phillipz5689 yeah that’s fair, Kidd won a ring with the Mavs, that respect and loyalty is why he hasn’t been fired yet
@@LukaTheDon77 I understand that. But I seriously disagree with that approach to trying to win a championship.
No way Jayson Tatum should win mvp after the performance he put in today
It's one game. Relax.
After 1 game? lol
@@philb.1502Tatum does this frequently. He’s a brick half the games. So overrated
@@zacharybarlow518 His team has the best record in the NBA.
@@philb.1502Should give the MVP to his team then..
5 straight games with 30 plus point triple doubles wow
Six now
Got to 7 lmao
Conversation about 25 year old is crazy
He 25 in age but he 35 in NBA years
@@CoachRJ334??
@@Kushagra.j lol that went over your head I see 🗣️
None of the teams ahead of the Mavs would trade their 3rd and 4th best players for the Mavs 3rd and 4th best players. Team success takes more than 1 or 2 great players, especially in a conference as loaded as the current Western Conference.
True, or both Phoenix and the Mavs would probably be 1 and 2 in the west (not necessarily in that order)
Nice and succinct
It's 2024 and we still debating if the MVP is "best player on the best team" award. If you take Luka out of that Dallas team they would be in contention for a lottery pick. As far as a "Most Valuable Player" goes, there's absolutely no question who deserves that award
I've always hated how in any sport you can have a player who is easily as equally valuable to their team as other players and yet because the team itself doesn't have as good of a record There's somehow not looked at for these awards.
It's why these awards are so annoying every year.
To answer the questions, yes, Luka will likely have multiple MVPs in his future. He has been in MVP talks since joining the league. He has been spectacular.
Luka is the MVP
Most valuable Player
You also take this into consideration, you take Luka off the Mavs then they are probably the Hornets rn. Better organizations account for the Ws.
Joker is probably gonna get it and he’s the best player rn.
Luka is the best player.
@@philb.1502 Nah it’s Joker
@@philb.1502im a big luka fan but Jokic is the better player this season
Its debatable
@@fork6057 not really
They creating the narrative to put Jokic out of the MVP convo when he is clearly the best player in the league
How is he better than Luka? The numbers don't back that up. Jokic should definitely be in the conversation, but he isn't the best player this season.
lol
I don’t think Jokic is even better than Giannis
Just an example of two people who doesn't watch jokic at all, by them jokic is 3rd best player maybe 4th and 5th and that's all you need to know about people who comments on you tube, embarrasing. Luka and giannis are not playing the same sport as jokic they are good but jokic is on whole another level
Luka is the best player.
If Luka does not deserve an MVP because of their seed, then Chet will get the ROTY over Wemby?. Come on...
Luka should be one of the candidates for sure!
This is what I find so funny as well. Lukas stats are historical
Historically, team win is never considered for ROY whereas for MVP team in is absolutely neccessary
To be honest. When you watch any Mavs game, Luka is always the best player in the court, except maybe when facing Denver...and still its debatable. So for me its Jokic or Luka.
@@swarajthapa5798 that doesn't make sense. They're both individual awards. Why else did Bron win ROTY and not Melo??
@@joykenn9772 exactly, no sense at all. It's all about a stupid narrative that media come up with. The year Westbrook won it was ok for a low seed, because he put a "historic statline"
I agree with Shaq, the team record is not the main criteria, the stats and how good they are is first. Westbrook and Jokic won as 6th seed so should Luka.
Luka isn’t the 6th seed though, he’s the 8th seed
Luka is the best player now and is having the best season of everyone. He should win the MVP.
People forget MJ was winning MVPs before he won the championship and his team was good. You need to be ahead of everyone else by A LOT though if your team isn't good.
Best player where?
@@sholaabitogun2747possibly best ever when said and done. Definitely best player now with ease
Embiid before his injury was deffo going to be the MVP
@@billj4525Mj should’ve won the MVP every year but he didn’t. Why? Because his team wasn’t any good. If that’s the case, he would have about 7-8 of them things.
Mvp is an individuals accomplishments to what he brings to the table. Its NOT a Team stat guys, being part of a team thats in 8th place doesnt make the argument.
Yes it does. If you aren’t taking your team anywhere you aren’t valuable
@@ryanamburgy2791 you cant factor a guess as to that they'd probably be 1 of if not the worst team in the league w/o him? Y'all keep reminding me of how many talented stars there are, Jason Kidd said it best, Luka IS the gameplan! Jordan dealt with the same thing with the Bulls early on in his career, the Team sucked balls but he still elevated them to the playoffs.
Mavs are not going to be high enough in the standings with Jason Kidd as the coach for Luka to win mvp.
Rick Carlisle couldn't do it either
@@geronimopratt7976nobody could. Luka's a ballhog. He only passes the ball after dribbling it for 20 seconds
Antman for mvp? Don't agree with that
If the Timberwolves remain the 1st seed, which means ANT would be going OFF.
It’s a short video. Listening isn’t difficult unless you’re deaf
@@Vito_CaligiuriBoston's record is way better than the wolves so Tatum should win the MVP
@@midgetporn9735 as of now? Yes.
But Jokic is MVP
antman cant even win without kat🤣🤣
@@alecvirtucio1407 you spoke too soon
I've always agreed with Shaq on his MVP take. If its an individual award, then the decision should be made on individual ability.
Only shaq answered ernie's question correctly. Chuck and kenny kept talking about Luka's chances of winning this year.
It's not about Edwards vs Doncic, the issue is that Jokic and Shai exist. You can't win with a low seed if there are strong candidates with the top seed
Exactly. Lukas stats put him in the convo, but then he loses to the similar mega stat guys who have had more team success. I’m a huge Luka fan but it is what it is. Some of Luka’s antics and dogging plays does hurt them in ways that don’t show up in the stats but do reflect on the teams success. Luka will have his moment though, the great ones eventually do.
I also think Luka is inherently the better player than SGA but for MVP voting it will go to SGA even though he clearly has a better team around him. They’ll both be first team all nba.
Lebron didn't win his first NBA title till he was 27 and he heard similar complaints. But Luka is a better, more versatile offensive layer than lebron ever was, and especially at the same stages of their careers - when the Mavs beat his Heat, he had no go to shot. What Doncic needs is a better more consistent dedication to D, more self control, and better teammates, especially a front line player who can shoot and score.
@@gaspersignorelli3724 lebron was a great defensive player(back then, not now lol). Luka is well, not.
I would still put Giannis over SGA
This argument is equivalent to the 2016-2017 season when Westbrook won MVP
Almost the same, but back than triple doubles were more special.
@@jerrymiemarcusno they were not and luka is scoring far more and more efficient
Yeah thats true. But what helped Westbrook is that nobody averages a triple double in decades. He didnt make the playoffs that year but won MVP because of how long it took for someone to average a triple double again. I agree that Luka's season is better, but I dont think the narrative is in his favour.
@@fk4410
@@fk4410 yes they were lmao, nobody was doing what Westbrook doing stat wise.
@@cyberbron2077 and now nobody is foing what luka is doing so how was it more special
no way kenny and chuck think dallas got better players than minnesota. minnesota got a better and complete team, luka only has kyrie. the mvp of the league is decided by the MOST VALUBLE to their team. if you remove luka from dallas, that team is a lottery pick team. remove ant and minnesota from 1st they drop to prob 5-8th. the mvp is clearly luka doncic but if it had to be btw anyone it would be him and joker and embiid if he wasnt hurt.
Value is how much does the individual make a difference.
If you take Luka out of Mavs we're not in top 12. Luka has dragged that team to playoffs and now with the recent trades we're going to fight for top 4.
If these Value discussions are going to be about team performance then Wemby shouldn't even be in the the conversation for Rookie of the year.
1:21 When Shaq gets louder to cut off Chuck and Chuck has to get louder to make Shaq back off lol
Agreed with shaq this time
Got me siding with Shaq here lmao.
Luka is the best player in the league, it's pretty straight forward.
They synced up heavy 3:30 😂
This has been a conversation for ages, best player vs most valuable.
Everyone’s right and everyone’s wrong. What a time to be alive where there’s such an elite and crazy amount of talent in the league. Whoever your MVP, they all unbelievable
MVP translates to "best player in the NBA" - PLAYER - and as of right now this is Luka, as simple as that...
Never seen them all talk past each other more than right here.
Its individuell and luka is absolutly the best❤🎉❤
“i do” 🔥
Luka is a playoff beast that just how it goes
2020 game 3, 13 points 28% fg
1:55 Ernie “I do” 😂😂😂😂 it’s hilarious knowing Ernie didn’t vote for Shaq
I always think it should be if you take a player off a team how much of an impact would that make in that sense hes MVP. If your looking at best player hes also in the running with a few others. The team argument only partly makes sense because other players play the role in that more. It should be done on who is most valuable to their team and in that sense its also luka.
if they are top 4 not only he'd be in the conversation, man should be hands down the unanimously MVP
Mavs have gone 8-1 since this clip. What else does Luka and the team need to do. Cmon man
Shaq is right. I get rewarding winning but nobody in the league this season is more valuable to their team than luka, besides maybe jokic. As long as they’re in the playoffs they should realistically be eligible for mvp if they’re having as historic of a season as luka is
Team record is important because some people have to do less to do more
Shaq is right! MVP is singular, Luka 💯 for MVP
Luka!!
The sad truth is that it is also important that your team has to be at the top of the table so that your chances of winning the MVP trophy are higher. Luka is just unlucky that he plays for a team that doesn't offer him much. Every Dallas fan can complain, but the fact is that Dallas is not a successful team and without Luka, Dallas would probably be significantly further down in the table. If you look at Luka, he has deserved an MVP for a long time, the young man has gotten better every year. If we want to be honest, Luka is simply playing for the wrong team. For example, if Luka had ended up with the Suns (just an example!!!) then I would bet he would already have 2 titles and 2 MVPs in his pocket. And the sad thing is that Luka is happy in Dallas, which means he will stay there but as a fan of Luka you just think the boy could win a lot of titles like MJ but that won't happen because he's staying with a team that doesn't do anything for him brings because no matter how good you are, you also need good teammates and he doesn't have them and no matter who leads Dallas, they have never been good at building a strong team...waste of time for Luka
I agree with Shaq. Mvp should go to the baddest dude in the league
If the team spot meters we also know who is rookie of the year
Without Luka the Mavs would be having a Pistons type year, not as bad but not too far either. Need his playmaking, seen so many games where Luka sets up open shots and they miss them back to back, numbers don't lie he has the highest ppg, 3rd in assists. Better defense and maybe get rid of Jason Kidd the Mavs would be insane
If the Mavs finish as a top 6 seed he should be in contention. Top 4 seed and he should win it in my opinion
Luka is the clear MVP especially now, it’s best player not team?!? 😂
What about Jokers first mvp? What place was Denver and Dallas? Yall change narrative every time just to screw Luka...
In the modern NBA it’s been the 6th seed or higher for MVP.
@@datsapaddlinWestbrooks was unique because it was averaging a triple double for a season, idk about that one season with Joker I didn’t really watch so I can’t speak on it.
@@joshahlstrom2764 Lol yeah you probably shouldn’t speak on it because you didn’t watch. He was great that year and Murray was out with a torn ACL. He carried them to the playoffs and got them to the 6th seed.
@@datsapaddlin that’s why I said I wasn’t gonna speak on it lol
It’s ok to say you don’t know rather than make an ass out of yourself trying to defend something you don’t know anything about
@@joshahlstrom2764 Wasn’t really a point in saying anything then.
Luka hits every play I ever had for him ! Jokic is 85% . He deserves it !!
Shaq and Kenny are off their t'ts on this one...
What were okc when russ won it?
Or what was harden s team when he won?
It’s not greatest player award, it’s most valuable player
When Russ won MVP in 16-17 season, OKC finished 6th and lost in five games in the first round. He won only because he averaged a triple-double, and Luka's season is just as impressive (to say the least). Give this man the title he deserves!
And people say he can’t play defense when he’s been a good defender this year
Shaq is right, the assumption of the others is that if the team is not within the first 4 players then it is the players fault is an oversimplification. What matters us how much better a player a team makes.
To actually answer the question instead of just saying their 2024 roster isn't good enough for him to ever win one in his career on any roster, then do an Antman comparison; my official prediction is 1.
He has the talent to win many MVP's & I hope he does (him and Kyrie are my favorite players; wasn't even a Mavs fan before they got there), but factors like team success, injuries, voter fatigue & other talent will always serve as roadblocks for a string of MVP's.
The biggest factor is will he end up being the leader of a championship team, which to a capacity isn't up to him. I don't see him signing somewhere else, so his fate is somewhat up to free agent signings, lucky draft picks & good development of other talents. I fully believe that if he's on a roster that can be a top 3 seed in the league, he will do so & he will have a good chance of winning MVP.
I predict he'll consistently hover around 5th seed & not win. Then near the tail end of his prime they'll make extra acquisitions, go hard & make it happen 1 time. Or the league will have a down year & he'll go Toronto Raptors Kawhii mode on the league (but actually play games).
Whoever convinced the jet to get his beard painted on then put a 5 o’clock shadow on top of dude head needs to be fired
MVP has always been an award given to the player that provides the most value FOR HIS TEAM. Luka should get it
Just change the award's name to MVPIAGT = Most Valuable Player In A Good Team
Maybe that should looks the record mavs have with Luka and not combined
Didn't know MVP stands for most valuable team mates, now I do 😂
Here's something to think about... Embiid has missed quite a bit of time and the Sixers have gone from 2nd in the East (I think) to 7th... does that make him most valuable to his team? 🤔
Yes 100%.
He was possibly the lead candidate to MVP before his injury
How is this a question. Duh. You take Luka out the Mavs and we go to the g league in the first south move ever.
Yes he's very valuable to the 76ers, but at the same time he's not valuable as he cannot stay healthy
that's the case for most superstars though. outside of probably the celtics just because that team is loaded.
You have to factor in the game schedule. The first half of the year was mostly against weak teams while their losses were against top seeds.
If the Mavericks atleast secure an 4-6 spot Luka should absolutely win an MVP, cause Westbrook already did it in 2017 season where he's team is at 6th spot whilst putting 30ppg 10 reb 10 ast
Both of them pretty much has same the scenario
Jokic is still better player, and his team is winning.
When Steve Nash won those MvP what were Shaqs stats and what was his team record?
Chuck is right. If Minnesota stays 1 seed that means Ant is gonna be putting up performances like he did last night. naturally his stats will rise to rival Jokic and SGAs. However, I don't think the wolves can keep the 1 seed and in that case the mvp is likely going to go to either SGA or Jokic depending on who finishes higher in the standings.
Fast forward 2 months..I’m sure Luka gets his props from the whole panel now. 😂
Shaq was spitting, Luka deserves more respect
LUKA IS THE BEST PLAYER OF THE NBA RIGHT NOW PERIOD. SHAI, JOKIC, GIANNIS, AND ANT COMES AFTERWARDS. HE IS DEFINITELY IN HIS PRIME AND THE MOST DOMINANT PLAYER ON THE COURT.
MVP is an individual award. Team record is only consideration. Wemby should not win any awards due to record and Chet should be ROY.
only shaq has a clue in this one. you can be the best player on any given season but can't get on those top spot because your team was much weaker fron other. mvp should not only factor on who the best player on those top teams. remember the term most valuable. so it should be who has the greater value and impact on the team win or loose. what your team will become without you. so if your on an any playoffs team you should have a consideration if you are performing well
Chuck is not even answering the question...
Nah fax 😭
Not the first time lmao
Shaq told it like it is, Luka is the baddest mofo in the league for sure, meaning he is the best player. He should definitely be MVP this year because none of the other players are better than him, and it's not his fault that the team is not doing as well as as some of the others. If you look at total production, ability, he's got everyone beat. He's the best player I've ever seen, and a lot of people are trying to ignore the fact that he is the baddest mofo in the league, like Barkley. And I'll save this for the record, Luka is a lot better than Barkley ever was or ever could be. He has the most all-around game I've ever seen any other player possess, that's the truth. To me, that makes him the greatest player of all time. He is better at more things, more aspects of the game than any other player that's ever played. His production is unbelievable for the minutes played. I appreciate Shaq pointing that out here. And Shaq is absolutely right, there's nobody on Minnesota better than him, there's nobody on any other team better than him. It shouldn't be based on team performance, the MVP. It should be based on total production, how much the player means to his team, how much he had to do with each and every win of the year. Also, he makes other players better, he plays unselfishly because he gets everyone involved, it's very sad to see guys like Barkley continue to put him down, he already has a lot more triple doubles than Larry Bird did in his whole career, and Larry Bird was a great player, one of the greatest actually. The fact is, Luka is a lot better than Larry Bird ever was, and that is saying an awful lot
Luka won EuroLeague Finals & he got the EuroLeague Finals MVP -- at 17 years old. He's been NBA first team 4x.. his stats are nearly identical to Lebron's stats, if u compare their first 5 or 6 years in the league. He got to a Western conference finals. LeBron did same, he got to a Finals early on with Cleveland, but he didn't win. Luka is phenomenal. He is just different, his style of play is more similar to LeBron in his 30s, he isn't as explosive and, I mean, he has a 40 inch vertical, which is not shabby. But he doesn't jump out the gym. In the US, a premium is out on athleticism, on qualities like high vertical jumps, and the average white player does not have this. It isn't a bad thing, it just means that they'll have to make up for it with a little extra space & separation, and the entertainment w/high flying isn't there.
But at the end of the day, the reality is nobody in the league can guard Luka, nor have they been able to guard him since he came into the league. He's put up 60 points, several 50 points games, he has done everything except win a title. He isn't like Jayson Tatum, being on a team like the Celtics, where they have all the pieces. And even he hasn't won a title. But his stats are not comparable to Luka. Luka is a top-5 player in the league, and it's a league with so many talented guys. The league is great. But ppl need to stop finding reasons to not give this man his due, bc he is really good.
Barkley was about to say you can't get mvp from the 6th spot even tho jokic and westbrook both did while putting up smaller numbers then luka is this year. If the mavs hit 6 or better and luka don't win it; it's a damn shame
Luka Doncic in the basic categories number of points per game, rebounds, assists, number of points per game and fantasy points Luka is better than Tatum, Janis, SG and Jokic and holds the first place except for rebounds where he has almost 10 and assists where he is third. . Check the stats and admire the artist. Shame on you for constantly mentioning the team's ranking as the main criterion. This is an individual award. Luka is a magical genius and MVP 2024.
Westbrook won mvp thunder was the 6th and was 47-35 the Mavs are 45-29 so please make it make sense he should still be able to win mvp they can still have a 50 win season
It’s certainly an interesting question. Luka is playing at a level we have seldom seen. And it’s not simply stat padding. With the efficiency, assists, and how his number correlates to winning, he’s playing great. However, they aren’t wrong that it’s a team award. He needs to learn to either lead his team differently than stats, or find ways to upgrade the team through proactive building with the FO. Without the wins, even if it isn’t stat padding, it’s empty
a championship is a team award. mvp is an individual award. i know that's not how it's awarded but i don't agree with it.
convo should just be between jokic and luka, Luka's unlucky with scrub coach and org cutting brunson instead of fuking hardaway.
the award is literally called Most Valuable PLAYER, how is that a team award?
If people would like to play with the semantics, sure MVP is PLAYER and not TEAM. The reality however in which the NBA operates is that the players impact is directly correlated with team success. While I stated above he is far more than a simple stat padder, as his teams record doesn't reflect his carry, it's hard to give him that award when people with slightly less gaudy numbers have vastly more wins.
@@S0SH1N that is at least a take I can respect
First time I see shaq being right where everyone else was wrong
Shaq is speaking facts
Shaq's finally right about something.
"Most Valuable Player" The meaning itself means as a player achievement not on Team achievement.
Giving an individual award based on group performance is criminal, Luka just had 4 games in a row with triple doubles of 30+ points and the Mavs only got one win, Luka has been averaging 37+ points in the last 15 games, it's not his fault playing with cones as teammates
I’ve never seen them two team up to shut the Disel up
Luka's defense is getting better too
Mark Cubin doing everything in his power to keep Luka right where he is. Luka knows that, he was cruising and apperceive at first but he wants the glory, he'll leave unless team revamp
Shaq is right. MVP is one singular player. The most valuable team wins the championship.
Yall in comments forgetting Luka didnt have his best players playing with him for more than half a season due to injuries
I wish I didn't come here after just watching @jxmyhighroller video(yes I'm name dropping) on Luka, because he just proved what these guys are saying. An individual MVP award shouldn't be based of where the team finishes. It's Most Valuable PLAYER overall...in the entire league for the season...regardless of team position.