This is why Alienware computers are terrible...
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Let's be fair, that's a very old model.
The new ones are much worse.
Man I was about to go off on you lololol so true
lmao
Dw the only good models they had were up to the original predator case. And even then thats where the whole airflow problem came in. Before that the cheiftec cases they used were probably really good anyways.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
This is where the phrase "sounds like a jet engine" comes from.
Jimmy Good buy dude.. I feel the same way about Alienware 🤦🏻🤦🏻I’d spend $75 and get the white tower, Tempered Glass tower on new egg and put that stuff in and you got a easy $800 to $1000 for a used PC 👍 especially with the water cooling and the tower I’m talking about comes with 4 RGB Fans 120mm has a nice spot for all that stuff and for the Rad 👍 nice fine bro
Sounds about right.
Bro I still have an r9 290x lol at 50% fan speed
Alienware hasn't been the same since Dell aquired them.
true so true Dell is like Alienware must get smaller and smaller specially on the coolers when an over clocker is like I need a 240 mm rad Dell is like a 120mm is fine for overclocking
Dell = Alienware HELL!! 😈
facts
Remember when Dell made the best, most reliable, best supported computers? Pepridge Farm remembers.
THANK YOU!!! Dell watered them down.
Dell really ruined the Alienware brand after the acquisition they went from well built with good quality and highly engineered devices to low cost, low quality and it kinda works devices.
But they aren't low cost.
@@bobbrock4221 I think he means low cost parts
@@jamesjdm ah I see.
Dell could be the number one choice of pre-built gaming PC's if they made it right from the beginning. Dell with all resources and knowledge it's mindboggling.
When a regular Dell catches AIDS, it becomes an Alienware.
@PCDYYD Polio
@PCDYYD It needs to drink holy water, then it becomes an optiplex.
Yet Alienware lives on, showing how truly strong it is. To continue to live with AIDS? Lol are you kidding me? Not many things tougher than that mate. That’s truly a compliment. I mean look at magic Johnson, incredible. Now that’s great marketing for Alienware.
dell + facehugger = alienware.
@@deadlymarsupial1236 Suffocating and ready to burst.
I still have the one i bought back when i graduated in 2013. Still works too. Was my first gaming desktop. Still use it today
Lmao but why tho
Same ive had my Aurora ALX chassis like 10 years old+ only thing ive upgraded on mine was gpu ram and ssd it is a pain to clean and in traditional Alienware fashion looks out weigh cooling performance when it comes to case design
Run cyberpunk it'll die
Its so good u luky u have one I don't have a gaming one just a normal one
@Randy Names ya i built my own 11th gen i-7 rtx 3090 should be good for another 10-15 years hopefully
I remember when everyone wants a dell or alienware 15 years ago. Now the only ppl who wants them are ppl who don't keep track of tech news.
Replies on the same pc chaise Timmy trashed with an I7 3820, and protests in the poor.
Back in 2005 dell made some boring, but entirely solid computers
Guilty as charged here. 😒 I got an Aurora r11 with a 3080 GPU and i7 10700 processor. No need for a heater in my office with this little furnace. Once the warranty is done, I'm thinking of upgrading my cooling with a CPU liquid cooler.
quick question: does the suckiness of alienware products also apply to their laptops? in my country they're branded as the best, i don't know if their cooling solutions are good.
@@theretrogamers7690 yeah that's what i was asking. thanks!
Sorry about the focus hunting the whole video. Panasonic sure can't make autofocus, I usually manual it but I forgot :(
What you really need to be sorry about is wearing the same shirt for the past 50 videos and not washing it.
@@steelisreal4313I know right, smells like yo mama!!!
"Every single 290x i've own has died"
That sounds like a personal problem.
Somewhere, a 290x has sworn vengeance and it's looking for Timmy Joe for all the murders.
I agree. I had one and still working fine after 6 years.
The AIO on the Fury X is just as unreliable
They do like to die though. It pulls way to much power it kills itself and it runs way to hot. I have a dead r9 290 tri x. Makes sense, high current cores usually die faster.
Many old high end cards just die sooner due to running so long and so hat reduces lifespan of chip a lot. Electronics don't like heat.
Customer: Pay a Premium to get a Premium Product.
Alienware: Erm.....No. But at least we ripped you off and you didn't even care until it was too late.
Never owned one, but I know Alienware has an undying passion for mounting brackets and plastic shell
Same problem with the Dell Precision workstations, over-engineered, pointless proprietary 1000W watt PSUs, all these random plastic ducts and flaps inside the case that essentially suffocate the case and make the fans run at full-speed because it's so cramped, despite the fact that the ducts are supposed to "efficiently" channel air...
Not to mention the fact the cases are huge and built like a tank, weighing about 30-50KG, yet have 80mm fan mounts... what moron designed these things?
I think it's probably a case of the (likely) overpaid designers trying to justify their positions by trying to reinvent the wheel and just ending up making something that performs worse than the bare basics stock design of a normal PC case.
Timmy that's the sound of performance 😂😂😂
I just had one I sold that I replaced the cpu cooler on. The cooling plate was filled with junk to the point the water wasn't flowing and overheating the CPU. They used a proprietary connector to control it so I cut and soldered a new cooler to the header. Have to love alienware.
This is a known problem with the original cooler, the liquid turns to a gel and clogs the whole thing up. They would last until just out of warranty usually. Many think Dell should have had a recall on the part but of course, they never did.
@@ScottOmatic yea, it wasn't even much better than a stock cooler when new even. The entire computer is a case of over engineering and little real world testing.
I just remember the guys from the big bang theory using alienware and thinking I guess they arent that smart
Product placement sells!
people think if Sheldon has an Alienware, it must mean they're really good😂
@@goqwertygo and they are really good. I got mine specifically because of Big Bang Theory and I continue to use my new Alienware to study quantum physics and anti-gravitational pull conflicting with the absorption of anti-matter.
@@clemfandango3925 fascinating I can do that with my Lenovo Legion👌 without the Aleinware tax😂
@@goqwertygo ....I was just having a meme mate. All was well until come to find out, you’re here speaking Ill of Alienware....yet you use a Lenovo legion...
@Smashmouth Hockey Thell previous models may have had issues, but every brand has issues. I just got the new Legion 5 2020 model that has many improvements from the previous models. I like the enterprise grade sleeper aesthetic. Simple white backlit keyboard and none of that over glorified RGB battery wasting bullshit. I've always liked Dell tho, loved using my previous daily driver Latitude E6540. Still play around with it using an external GPU Beast dock with an old Titan Black just because it can😂
I did consider Dell/Alienware when I was shopping for a new laptop, but it would have been like an extra $1000 Alienware and GAMER RGB tax to get the same spec 17" 2060 Ryzen7 4800H.
I just imagine, you are playing at night, and your mom comes in to check if you are sleeping, you shut off your monitor and think everything will be alright, then the pc starts revving up like an a-10 warthog and loud errors start blaring that the computer is overheating, and you get caught.
They were AWESOME..... before DELL.....
Nah they were pretty bad before as well, no airflow from the beginning
No, not really, the design has always been terrible.
@@nathanhamman418 I've been in pc service since 1991, and I don't remember them having any case issues when they first came out. I mean, they used those Chieftec cases and they were pretty decent. Even the 2004 Alx had decent airflow. Case modders loved them. I do remember the first DELL version I got in, You could tell immediately who made it when you opened it up. Very different construction.
I have An alienware aurora pc ( same model ) and this one is still running after more than 9 years. They never failed. This isnt a fair conclusion.
Have you tried fixing the cases cooling solution as a whole?
You could certainly improve things at least a little.
Hell, flip the AIO fan to intake, mount it inside the case, and on an elbow blowing at the back of the GPU.
It's ghetto af, but I bet it shaves a couple degrees.
Just get the drill out lol I got lian li coffin from 09 thinking about it.
My roommate during college years really "loved" my 290x.
free heating
Space heater.
now you need an rx 6700 lol
@@raven4k998 You being serious? my 6800xt runs no hotter than 65 C with 1500rpm fan curve so 6700 should theoretically be better
@@kimjongpoontv69 Are you being serious? My Powercolor Red Dragon V2 RX 580 run at high 70s with near 3000 rpms. Sounds like jet and feels like sauna. I water cooled it, because all that noise was unbearable, now it behaves itself at 70s and 800 rpm fan speed.
After saying "The End" and leaving I honestly expected you to come back in frame ... with a sledgehammer.
Just bought a gtx 970
i5-4690k
msi z97
16gb ram
750w psu and an old Corsair case for $200 Canadian
Im still using that msi board but i upgraded the 970 to a 1660 super oc and cpu from i5 4590 to i7 4790.
Only if someone with an actual brain was in charge of designing Alienwares🤔🤔🤔
Aka any other person
@@kennethshen7265 fr lmao
The PC worked properly for 10 years, I would say that the design is adequate.
@@AthosJosue and if you poke a few more holes in the chassis it would be no where near as loud and last double that
Some Alienwares were really good designs, the Aurora, I think is the cheaper version of Area-51 and it's also worse than a lot of Dell XPS higher end offerings (720 series were really good for airflow). Now, it would be a surprise to find out that it's not the same engineers working on Aurora design who also worked on the very decent (in terms of cooling) XPS 720 design.
1) The ATX standard is unfortunate. This is why desktop computers require exotic cooling (look at a rack server for a better board layout). 2) That having been said, it is ancient and the problems haven't changed in 20+ years and Dell's competition manages to make computers that aren't awful that manage with atx components.
They had a good laptop once in 2010... So... There's that.
I owned 3 R9 290X cards due to a series of RMAs, and since the card was so recent the replacements were all brand new rather than refurbs. Both of the reference cards died within a month. The third one was a free upgrade to a brand new custom card because the last two died so quickly, and that one worked just fine.
My favorite part is all the random, pointless plastic all over the place.
plastic fantastic
i feel like their reasoning was to keep any airflow moving through the PC so in a way forcing it to go through the components and cooling them, but i don't think that worked out as well as they thought?
I have one of the Area 51 ALX. With a I7 980x with two HD5970s in crossfire. The thing was a dyson
That computer is siiiick.
i feel like alienware is like the apple of actual pc hardware, underperforming, overpriced, uses its styling and """""status"""" to excuse its faults
Except Apple makes products that people actually want, despite being overpriced. Alienware is just overpriced and nobody wants it.
@@sams_salad_service3653 yeah, ill never understand those people that buy apple's new iwathever every year because they think its somewhat a status symbol
@@AxisCorpsRep yeah, I hate most of their products.
Pretty happy with my apple phone playa hater
@@ohyabuddy12 their phones aren't bad but they are overpriced as hell, also saying "hater" makes you sound 12.
just proves that good marketing they had years ago only lasts until word gets around that your product sucks.
Just gut it and put the parts in a case with good air flow
Ah yes blower GPU's, my Vega 64 needed a lot of work it was so loud and hot. But after undervolting and setting a decent fan curve it's a pretty awesome GPU.
That you had to do that to ensure the cards life span is infuriating Imo. I say that while owning an rx 5600xt so no nvidia fanboyism here
@@WineLad Yeah it helps I like to tinker but most don't. It should have worked out of the box. Both my 3080 and 3090 both work without any of that.
'Fixing' a dead graphics card that succumbed to excessive levels of heat... with more heat.
*Why don’t you review a new non poverty spec Alienware with water cooling?*
I don’t know why your calling AlienWARE bad when that design came out 6 years ago.
its no different that the new models
@@SonnyListonStanAccount big difference
@@xaviervalentin1143 czcams.com/video/8ulhFi5N2hc/video.html
@@xaviervalentin1143 they all choke the fans and are all bullshit
@@SonnyListonStanAccount cause it’s a pre built computer dude, you can’t expect it to be awesome
I think my server rack is quieter than that thing on startup.
I died when i saw the video of an actual jet taking off 🤣🤣
Still LMAOOOOO!!!! 🤣🤣🤣👍
I'm still rocking my 6 year old R5 with the GTX 1080 and it's quiet as a mouse and hasn't crashed once (I've even OCd mine too). I would recommend Alienware over many other pre-built anytime of the day.
AMD was pretty evil with this card. Whenever a company says 'the temperature is fine', it means it will probably die AFTER the 2 years warranty passed..
Dell has screwed me multiple times with defective computers, including a laptop that I bought this summer from them. When I called their support because it was crashing constantly they charged me $120 for tech support, even though it was a defect in the product that THEY SOLD ME!
Boy is dell ever a shit company.
So if you were screwed multiple times with dell, why did you buy another one this summer?
This Lenovo Legion I just got is Sweet! I considered Dell, I have used a bunch of other Dells. My previous daily laptop I still sometimes use is a Dell Latitude E6540. and all my other Latitudes were bought 2nd had never had any issues with them.
if they didnt sell out to dell they would still be good
yeah, those reference 290's are diying like crazy. When I acquired my 290X reference ack in 2013, I put an Gelid Icy Vision cooler on it and the card ran at 72 C winter/ 82-83 C in summer (during 35C ambient hot summer day), and the card always ran at 1000MHz without throttleing and I was happy. Only downside of it was that it uses 3-Pin fans, and 290x uses 4-pin PWM fan control, so Gelid fans were running @100%, so I used Scythe KazeMaster to control the 290X (with Gelid Icy vision) fan speed.
“I’m running out of content I need a video to put out”
“I Got it, I’ll put out a video in 2021 of a system nowhere near up to a current configuration of this specific pre-build company and I’ll use that as my benchmark for the current state of the entire company . This in turn will give me more views and ad revenue and at the same time will include absolutely 0 relevant information regarding the topic at hand limiting backlash and requiring me to spend money to get a current up to spec machine”
69. Nice.
@Mankirat Singh oh my mistake. I understand now.
@Mankirat Singh the R12 has no heating issues. The guy is using a fucking R4 and made the mistake of getting amd. This guy's better at eating than he is at reviewing alienware systems.
I have an Alienware Area-51m R2 with an RTX2080 Super. It has never thermal-throttled, and even flat out the fan noise isn't intrusive. I couldn't be happier with it.
I had that exact case and it wasn't great...
Ever since Dell took over Alienware they've been going downhill :P
Shit, well, as I'm sitting here watching this on my Alienware R7 1080ti 32 gb 8700k water cooled rig. I'm like holy shit batman. Well they did have a hell of a gig going with the look, was a great concept. I love the old Alienware cases. It used to be fun watching guys like you bringing them back up to modern stuff. But now everything is out of stock and so expensive. You have to admit, those old Alienware cases were something cool back in the day.
Yeah. It looks very good to this day. Got a similar setup. But I still got my 980 TI going strong
Run the machine with the sides off. :) There is where you will get your airflow. :)
put some christmas lights on it so you still get rgb
People that buy alienware are the same people who rep. supreme stickers, a whole lot of flash for a whole lot of no value and sustenance
Alienware is just a dell in a fancy shell
to try to trick 9 year olds to buy their shit products
@@kennethshen7265 bingo
i mean he has a 2009 model and they said it lasts up to 5 years so, basically, his pc was good till 2014
Alienware was an awesome computer, before Dell got a hold of them in March 2006. That is when they went to crap.
Got one of these cases for $50 and thought I'd build a little custom pc, but it was caked in cigarette tar and taking everything off this case is a nightmare.
My uncle was rocking that card till I got him a msi rx 580 8gb. That 290 runs hot!
I've had this PC (R2) for 13 years. All I've done is change out the video card 5 times. i7 920 with original liquid cooling and all original fans still running on a daily basis. It's been beyond reliable.
Have to admit it is an amazing case design on the outside! Screams 90’s and 2000’s Tech/badass unnamed henchman and I love it!
I mean I think it looks rather spiffy on my desk.
Even an alien woudlnt want that crap
Ok so what should I get if I want the same quality
"Aluminum coffin" haha I like that
I have a Alienware Aurora R1 that I've had literally since launch in 2009. It was over $3000 at the time of purchase with a x2 1tb HDDs, i7 920, 24gb ram on 6 lanes (4x6), and x2 GT 730s (I think). Anywho, I retired her in about 2015 - 2016 but I have a weird relationship with my computers where I refuse to let them sit in a closet or collect dust.. So I turned her into a NAS using Unraid. And honestly, back in 2015 - 2016 this thing felt YEARS ahead of anything else on the market at the avg consumer level for a homer server. I ended up replacing the i7 920 for a i7 990x, replacing the ram with some higher clocked.. fancier looking stuff, and also added a huge dual 5.25 bay fan that houses 3 additional HDDs in 2 of the front bays (This thing moves HUGE amounts of air through 2 of the front bays). I then stuffed it with x6 4TB IronWolf Pro's and x1 2.5 SSD for cache and it literally ran for MONTHS at a time with absolutely 0 errors. I had alot of family in my household back then and was hosting a media server and all kinds of different apps from this this thing with multiple people connected, file sharing, swapping stuff around all at once and NEVER exceeded temps.
Although, the lower 4 HDDS in front of the PSU would run hotter than the ones in the 5.25 drive bays (obviously because of the huge ass bay fan), they never exceeded temps of about 47C. Nothing in this unit ever exceeded a temp of 47C (The drive bay HDDs in front of the bay fan were ALWAYS under 34C). The 5.25 dual drive bay fan HDD converter thing was a life saver IMO for longevity, but even before running this Aurora R1 as a NAS and adding the bay fan.. playing WoW back in 2009 on this thing was an ABSOLUTE EXPERIENCE. Still never exceeded temps of about 175F-ish playing WoW on max settings on two 730 GT GPUs.
I've since upgraded my storage again (thanks isos) to x3 22TB ironWolf Pros and x1 8TB IronWolf Pro for Vms. Still running the x1 2tb ssd cache. Also upgraded the GPU to my old 1650 Super to allow for better 4k transcoding within JellyFin. I have literally been running this things balls off since 2009 with no remorse and it's never gave me a single issue that wasn't something I caused in the first place. As far as overheating is concerned, I don't think these things as a whole overheated much at all. I think in the end it was all down to what kind of CPU and GPU you stuffed inside the rig. And lets be honest 2009 - 2014 was just a weird era for GPUs. Alienware Computers are most definitely overpriced (Thanks Dell), but I think most people just hate on them because "Oh I can build a better rig myself for cheaper".
You're just buying the brand. Just like with a Corvette, Mercedes, or Ferrari. You are paying for the brand. And lets be real.. these early generation Alienware Computers are modern art masterpieces. lol. Anyways, Awesome video brother! I too have never had the heat gun trick work for me, so I'm stoked you were able to revive that old GPU!
Sorry for making this a book.
-Baylough Technologies
oh fella i feel your pain...
I had that model and it was definitely loud.
I now use and actually really love my Alienware R10. When you buy the higher end models and not the value models you get upgraded cooling and more options for cooling upgrades.
If you buy the cheapest Lexus, you're going to get a Toyota. This isn't a brand for people on a budget. An Alienware logo on a $1200 build just shows you wanted the logo more than you had sense.
People don't buy Prada when they need sneakers because they're looking for value. If Prada made a $200 pair, it would be a red flag that that's not the pair you want from that brand.
you wear that chiplet shirt every time i didn't wanna mention it before
Might as well not put fans in that case
This thing is a coffin an aluminum coffin! 😂👌
a good method for heatgun repair which worked really good for me is: Leave some thermal paste on the Die to deal with the heat stress and get one of that high heat capable temperature probes from amazon for like 5 bucks with the little lcd screen, put the probe in the thermal compunt on the die and cover it with thermal paste to get a near to good reading of the temp. Then start slowly heating up the entire board , than go to the Die, circling the heatgun around it until it reaches about 230°C. Than stop, put some aluminium foil over it to let it cool down slowly and leave it for about 15
I like how every video that does a review over the old machines says they’re bad, but every channel that review that does a new machine has almost no complaints lol
I just retired my Alienware R4 last weekend. Bought some new quiet fans and another mb 2 years back (Ryzen 3600) and happily gamed along... Old mb went to my nephew and he still uses it. My old case goes up for sale soon....
Having a used a 390 crossfire config for a good year can confirm hot ass cards. They only really work well with a triple fan aib cooler like the xfx or sapphire cards.
Just came across this video. Within the first 30 seconds a agreed with everything you said about them being the worst. I have an Alienware Aurora R11 i9 2080Ti (when the card was relevantly the time) liquid cooled and it’s a F**king expensive pos. Gets super hot, hot enough I don’t need to use the heat in the winter, dead serious, loud as hell under minimal load (sounds like a 747 taking off only it never leaves the runway) they also cheated me and installed a non branded GeForce 2080ti that looks nothing like the official card at all. Had it serviced twice because their updates from their own site fkd up my bios and ruined 2 out of 4 RAM sticks. Each time the service techs did a half ass job repairing the pc I still had to go back and finish what they missed or neglected to fix. I’ve bought several over the years simply because at the time I didn’t have the time to build one. Never again will I buy their crap. Overpriced, glorified garbage.
I really wouldn't mind the sound I'd buy it off ya Timmy I wear headphones when gaming
When blower cards are maxed out of fans (especially older ones) headphones don't help much
I think you'd need those ear-defenders that they wear on aircraft carriers..... :P
Hope you have a pair of closed-backs.
I purchased on FB Market an old blue big Alienware non Dell case for $50. It’s heavy and big. I plan to build an amazing gaming PC with it.
i have an alienware...and i love it..i had to upgrade the cooling as air cooling was crazy loud...but i really enjoy it!
i'm not saying, it's the aliens
but it's the aliens.
Exactly that model was my favorit pc in the world i love it even today but never could aford one. But dell pcs are a pain in the ass to work around.
Man I had one of the last pre-dell Alienware Auroras. They actually used to be really nice they'd give you a custom car-quality paint job and before rgb they lit the system up in whatever color you ordered, then overclock it before sending it to you. The ventilation was way better, each side had ribbed alien "gills" that would take in plenty of fresh air in a smart manner. The side panels came off with the lift of a lever and they had custom 12v contacts on the inside so all the power running to the light and fans in the panel didn't have to be disconnected whenever you took it off. Cooling on that system was really well thought out they didn't use the stock heatsink instead opting for a huge passive one (no fan, no jet engine sound). I wouldn't be surprised to find out they had those custom made for their computers too. Dell really ruined that company.
They might now be great pcs. But I love their older cases.
Honestly, I wasted SO MUCH TIME dealing with Alienware computer,s! All the crashes, hard-drive issues, blue screens, etc. With every Alien-ware computer I ever bought. Finally decided enough of this shit, and went to PCLapTop and got a customized computer with a LIFELONG warranty, parts too! No more of this pay for help with their crap computer service. I can proudly say in 5 years I have only had 2 minor issues with PClaptop computers, with Alienware it was MONTHLY and ongoing issues, even chipset issues, having to fight with them to fix anything. Calling Costa Rica all the time and only occasionally got the help needed. If you like headaches buy their computers, if not get yours from PCLaptop.
I just bought and put an RX 6800 in an Aurora R4 Alienware a month ago.
I still have and use an R9 290x and could not be happier.
It even ran overclocked for quite some time, I really wasn't too kind to it.
Granted, nowadays it uses too much power for what it does, but man can it still run!
I used to run 2 R9 290x's in crossfire with an FX 8350 OC at 5 GHZ my computer back then doubled as a space heater
Everytime I find a Alienware at the recycling center I expect it's going to be a monster, I always end up selling the case and ditching the motherboard, alien motherboard are always so bad it's almost unbelievable they sell those at the price they asking for.
I recently got an Area 51 R2 with a 5820k and a reference EVGA blower 1070 for $450. It doesn’t have thermal problems, but there are so many things that make me question my life decision...
Fun fact: the 3 stock fans, 2 front intake and 1 on the AIO, are 1.54A delta fans
Its mid 2021, my 2012 alienware r4, gtx 1660s, 8gb ram, samsung ssd still runs strong till now. Yes there have been thermal issues during the first few years but the warranty covered it. I still have a spare liquid cooler from dell (which the dell technician kindly gave me). Im running dual thinkvision monitors for productivity, keychron k2, and logitech g pro x mouse, though it doesnt matter. I still can play games like apex legends on high graphics without issues. No auto shutdown due to heat. I just did a full dismantle and clean today (incl. repaste and new cmos battery), took me 5hrs. Overall, this computer lasted me 2 university degrees, work, and all the way till my kids are now 6 and 5 years old. I'd say this was an awesome purchase!
I have a alienware aurora r4 with 16gb and a e5 2690v1 with a rtx 2080 and it works perfectly no complaints runs everything on three screens the problem is the r9 290x not the whole computer.
My rule of thumb is any Desktop PC that uses proprietary hardware (like the motherboard or PSU) is garbage to be avoided at all cost.
Even if it's well designed, if something goes wrong (and with electronics it's more like when) or if you want to upgrade, you either go through the company or you've got yourself a fancy looking paperweight.
Desktop PCs with off the shelf components can be worked with fairly easily, even if they're cheap off the shelf components.
Hahaha I literally clicked on this because of the thumbnail pic.
I bought an Aurora R3 back in 2010! Got it for $999 as my first pc and no knowledge. I ran this base computer (well) as my main gamer until literally the beginning of this year (Jan, 2021) when it finally was just too old to really be useful anymore for realistic modern gaming. It's original spec was with a 3600k, GTX 450 (ha!), 650 watt psu, and like 8 gigs of very slow ddr3.
At its end of ownership all I had upgraded was graphics cards and ram over the years ending with 16 gigs (maxed) of used Gskill ddr3 ripjaws, a GTX 1070, and all the ssd's it would let me use. Oh, I also removed all those plastic swing covers as well as the crazy loud hard drive fan which actually somehow lowered temps.
I was actually sad to see it go (cough, for $600) because I apparently managed to get away with running this heat coffin just fine for literally over a decade with no major issues and it still did 1080p gaming no problem.
I'm not necessarily saying this to defend Dell but rather to say I guess I beat the odds and only upgraded because I was able to get my hands on a 3080 gaming system or else I'dve just kept waiting.
P.S. The guy that bought it is still using it, it hasn't died yet, and surprisingly doesn't regret the purchase haha.
Still rocking my X51R3 with the biggest GPU its TDP can handle. Even upgraded the CPU to the most powerful Skylake available for the board. No fires, no performance issues.
Why didn't you fix the real problem, airflow? It's called a hole saw and a wire fan grill. It's amazing what one fan on the bottom of the case with spacers under the case feet can do.
I had an r9 290 reference for many years. My cat used to like to sleep on top my computer because it's warm up there. I used to turn the fan to 100% to scare the shit out of her for a lark. These things were so loud. I also HAD to run my card at 60% because I don't really care what AMD said, there was no way in hell it was good for the card to be running at 94c at all times during a game. Seriously, that's what the default fan curve would do for just about anything demanding.
Tim, Cut a hole in the side panel and mount a nice big RGB fan. Don't forget to remove that stupid swing-out panel while your at it. If the card works fine when cool make it so.
I got 2 Alienware Auroras (an R1 and an R3) from a recycling facility and was excited to refurbish them until I realized what an *_absolute nightmare_* they are to clean and fix:
- They collect dust / fuzz and it is nearly impossible to get all of it out.
- Their bios and proprietary software is as stable as a drunk man doing a handstand on a tightrope.
- Customer support for these is basically non-existent, so if you have an issue then may God help you, because *Dell certainly won't.*
- Replacement parts are overpriced as hell (assuming you can even find them).
- They are built solely around aesthetics, with functionality being a very late afterthought.
_I paid $50 for each of them, and I still felt like I was getting ripped off. I ended up selling them for $200 and $250 on Craigslist, but I honestly don't know if I'd want to mess with these again._
I bought a bricked Area 51 Xlr for $20. Rebuilt it with intel parts and an asus rog 1070, loaded it with a bunch of fans. drilled holes. Sold it on the marketplace for $900 2 years ago. Guy says it still runs great.
before watching the video, my immediate thoughts:
1) Because it's Dell's brand, they use low quality cheap components
2) They're overpriced AF
3) They don't understand what Dual Channel memory is
4) They can't design cases that have at minimum workable airflow.
5) Short lifespan of hardware
6) Bloatware?
I got the first gen Aurora with some bent pins on the LGA1366 socket. It was from my old job, an eWaste recycler, and I guess they messed up the upgrade. It was gutted, and required me to get a cooler, which I went aftermarket. Luckily everything worked after throwing a i7-930 and crusty GPU I got for $50. I added an intake fan to pull from the above to alleviate the poor intake. Also the CPU liquid cooler was too big to fit in the rear, so I threw it behind the dvd bays.... It was a looker lol
I've got an R4 - owned it from new. It's still going strong, not my main machine anymore, it lives in the den for web browsing and a bit of office work. Mine is in a similar case but has moving slats all along the top which might have improved the cooling. There was always some fan noise when gaming with it but it was never excessive like yours seems to be. It was a good system in its day, the only negative thing about it is the weight - mine weighs a ton.
My friends parents got him a $3000 alienware laptop for Christmas and it didn't even last a year before it started sounding like a jet engine and SHUTTING OFF DURING NORMAL USE due to over heating, and the battery only lasts about 20 min; not even during gaming, just browsing Facebook. Biggest piece of shit ever smh
Bought a vertical testbench from AliExpress for $70. RED and Black ALU frame with plexi mounting brackets for the SSD and RGB fans. Looks cool and it keeps the components very cool. A HDD rack in the rear for my storage drives, it makes a fine conversation piece on the glass top desk. Super Easy to keep clean...about one minute with a little electric air blower.
i had an alienware aurora r4 with 3930k and radeon 6870 from back in 2011 i got it as a present and it ran smoothly for 8 years never had issues with it and sold it for 900 euros.
why not take out that piece that covers the gpu, and slot in a fan there, or 3d print a fan holder for it, maybe that will work
The problem is it's like the current rgb cases with glass fronts. They look good but there's no place for it to physically suck air from the outside in. The only way that it looks like you can get air into the case would be to either have a fan pulling in from the back and having the top fans pull out. Or have the top fans pull air in and keep the rear an exhaust. But you still have the problem of nowhere for air to be pulled in from the front.
@@Slane583 dermal and a 3d printer problem solved, but I know wat u mean. They were not thought out to well
@@jimsinnovations2737 That's the problem you have when companies just design things to look good. As for the Dremal and 3D printer, good idea. But if someone is buying this thing as a cheap pc I highly doubt they'd have either of those. Especially the 3D printer. :)
@@Slane583 lmao rite
Hey hey hey.... I paid $2000 for this portable heating device I call a laptop.
It keeps my bedroom super hot on the coldest nights.
Dell tech support said a 100*C for your cpu is within manufacturers specs.
I've purchased some of the newer Alienware desktops to harvest the GPU for gaming/mining as they were relatively inexpensive, and relatively easy to flip.
The liquid cooling option for the CPU is a must have, but often expensive and/or the option delayed my shipping dates, so I added AIO units to them before reselling them.
They lock some of the bios options, so you can't get maximum memory speed unless you pay for this option, even with DELL, or aftermarket memory, not really a big deal in my case.
Many buy Alienware desktops due to their onsite/in-home support as they don't want to deal with mail-in hassles.
@Derp Buu Yes we've been able to negotiate lower prices and/or free/reduced priced upgrades, faster ship times etc by speaking with reps.
When Dell was selling Alienware Desktops with 3700X CPUs and RTX 3070 GPUs for $1200 they'd advertised them for over a week, yet you couldn't buy them yet.
I chatted with Dell reps and was able to get the systems with upgraded liquid cooling and a 2 year extended warranty for around $100 extra, plus buy the units before the others were officially for sale.