ignition upgrade replacing the points to accel 2010acc like kit for $25
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2022
- Went to replace the points on a 1968 Firebird and discovered the price for new points is quite expensive, we found a cheaper alternative plus should never have to touch it again. This kit is basically identical to accel brand 2010acc but a 1/4 of the price. This video is a walk thru on how to install and test before putting the distributor back into the engine.
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Always happy to see tips that can help people that have never had the fun of dealing with "points" style ignitions, you can't beat the electronic ignition. Great content as always.
Points aren’t to bad to set up for the most part, biggest reasons for upgrading was reliability and cost. This kit is less expensive then a set of points. Now hopefully it is more reliable,
We shall see
Points are perfectly fine IF they are of good quality that would not float at high RPMs because of weak spring pressures..Enter Acell, Mallory,ect... Earlier solutions were duel point distributors that jointly created more coil saturation with less points strain...Finally magnetos..They were unbeatable
Excellent detail on why you are upgrading the ignition, thanks for explaining.
Glad to help!
Excelente video buddy I like the way you brake everything down please make a video of installing the Ignition distributor and timing gotta save them birds 🐦 👍
Thanks buddy and will do.
Great work, your project is really coming together.
Getting closer to haven’t it back on the ground.
Pontiac had factory Electronic ignition long before HEI starting in 1963 with transistorized ignition. They were the first division before Chevrolet started using it in 64 in the Corvette
I was told years ago Pontiac was GM’s experimental Line and they did a lot of firsts. I don’t have any proof to that but this supports that theory
Hi John, Glade you did this one. Keep us up on how this unit holds up over time. I am a old Delco points guy for all my GM cars as I still use a dwell meter and found out the old Delco points with the condenser screw on them have the strongest spring tension on the contact point so you can top out rpm much higher than with Blue strek or Standard brand points. ( I got a part # for them in my glove box but can't get to it now.) I do run HEIs in my SBC Chevy's but still got points in my Bird. Question? did you really drop the Dist on the FENDER !!! of a 400 hood car !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG your killin me here son with the Homer Simson move ! Duuuoooooh . If you heard a noise after that happened, that was my nuts hittin the floor ! Firebird fenders make tearable work benches, they get enough of that on the side of the road.
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Hey I am not perfect… all the time. It was a bone head move to drop it, fortunately this car is in the beginning stages of body work so no real damage. I would never use a finished car as a work bench, maybe 😉
Points are great especially the delco ones but the prices!! Wow they must be gold plated now. I will keep you posted on the durability worse case plan if they fail is return to the delco point set.
The module in that unit is the old Mallory unilite trigger design. It is VERY voltage sensitive!!!!!!! 7.2 to 9 volts is what the Mallory unit liked. Once you get the pumpkin together, check the voltage for spikes outside that range when the lights, heater or radio are on/off. It will never kill a module at home……. Always at the cruise in or car show. It does also like a coil that is specifically for an “ electronic “ trigger. It will overheat and boil a points coil.
good POINT 😜, I might just buy an extra module and keep it in the glove box just in case. still cheaper than a set of points.
So just keep the stock ballast resistor in place, same as Pertronix.
I put an HFI distributor on my firebird but haven't tried it yet. I wish I had known about that kit you used before I bought it. It would have been much cheaper. The HFI is much bigger than the original distributor but still has enough clearance to the firewall.
True, HEI will fit in back there, but it is reeeeeally tight on the first gen F bodys
@@hydroy1 yes, I remember it was tight but it has enough clearance that I thought it would be fine even with any engine movement while running etc. I guess I will find out when I get it running.
I have an hei on my 1969 coupe it works great. I used the pointed distributor on this car because it has all brand new ignition parts and it was the cheapest way to go. Trying to conserve money, my money tree is not doing well it seems 🤣
@@VinylVillageGarage You need a money tree when you work on these cars. Way too many little parts that all add up to way too much money. I live in Canada so I have the exchange rate, brokerage fees, and taxes to deal with so it's even worse. It kind of sucks the fun out of it when you order parts and get bent over.
Unlike a points distrbutor, HEI mechanical advance was only 15-24 degrees and . for emissions, more advance was made up with the vacuum advance..If you use HEI, you have to re curve it for maximum 36 degrees with base and centrifugal advance..Limit the vacuum advance to 10 degrees with cast iron
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hope that thing works. I bought a new small HEI distributer and cap with coil from a company on ebay, came with plug wires. Could not get fire with it. Dunno what i did wrong but I think wasn't wired correctly. Went back to the reg HEI distributer with big cap and have clearance issues with firewall but it runs. I think I am getting some engine vibration from the distributer cap making contact with the fire wall.
I have heard of firewall clearance issues but never experienced it with the HEI. I have installed them on probably 15 birds. Wonder why some cars have the problem. Wish I could see some pictures.
@@VinylVillageGarage I will send you some pics of my ride. Thanks Jon
Yes please, what engine mounts are you running
@@VinylVillageGarage standard gm SBC
Interesting, now I have to know the answer
Good video. So does it work?
Yup works great so far. It only had about 2 hours of run time on it at this point.
Have you ever done a vid on removing chrome trim on exterior of car?
not yet, wish i
did when doing the great pumpkin disassembly. quick tip when it comes to the drip rail trim, use an aluminum bottle opener to help pop it off without damage to the trim
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Nice, ever consider MSD? (side note great shirt, I heard they may go on tour if all works out and last night I was able to see WASP at the Paramount)
I have yet to play with any of the MSD stuff, I have only done HEI, factory points, pertonix and now accel. i think MSD makes great stuff, just more then I want to spend. I see a huge benefit if I planned on racing my car.
lol, thanks for noticing the shirt, I saw pantera in concert in 94 with white zombie yes white zombie. would enjoy seeing what’s left of them one more time for sure.
did you make that wood arrowhead hanging on your wall?
LOL ----- I noticed it to. Needs to be stained & clear coated.
@@hydroy1 I have a large bird emblem i made out of wood.
Nope my coworker did, I repaired and painted his bumper for his mustang and he gave that to me in exchange. It’s cool wall art for the garage
@@eric530 Yeah, were all kind like that. Had a buddy with a 68 400 car that made a 6 foot first gen Bird out of heavy thick cardboard he put it on a stand, and I sealed it in exopy primer and painted it correct red & black base coat and free handed all the silver then cleared it in Imron. Took over a week. It was left out on the rain at a POCI car show a few years later, wasn't much good after that.
@@VinylVillageGarage Did you spray it with RAID to kill off all the Ford koodiees ??? can't have any of that around GM muscle or they tend to backfire !. lol. Yeah, I owned a Ford ! NEVER AGAIN !
Do you have the link or part number for this?
Cool shirt by the way. 🤘
2010acc was the part number on eBay and it was item number 223185346551 when I bought it.
Thanks, I thought it was appropriate