honestly this is the least shocking part to me. I unfortunately live in this shithole city and the 911 operators are mostly complete idiots. have called them for a large tractor tire in the middle of the highway on a blind curve before and they told me that "wasn’t an emergency" and "not their problem to deal with." literally 5 minutes later there was a MASSIVE car wreck there. I routinely have to call the cops because people are randomly shooting their guns around, like emptying magazines and stuff and they will ask me what the people look like and can I see outside and ask for more details. this has happened almost every time I have called for that. I'm not going outside, I'm laying flat on my living room floor, like are you serious? the ONLY place I've lived where the 911 operators literally NEVER advise you on your own safety. have been asked repeatedly for more information or to approach people overdosing on drugs in public which is pretty regular to happen here. had to explain where a major, very basic, everyone knows where it is intersection to a 911 operator. I mean.... look it up? isnt that your job? honestly this crime is the perfect thing to be well known for happening in corpus. this place is disgusting, backwards, shit education, literally half the town smells like sewage and probably 60% of residents couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag even if they were being paid to do so.
The fact the 911 operator asked that woman to ask the killer if he wanted to talk to them and putting him in close contact with this woman is just crazy. I would have never opened my door.
Yes, that struck me as really not a good thing to do & so calmly as if they had witnessed a minor offense such as a stolen bicycle had been seen or something ...not answering their door after someone killed another with a hammer !! 😱
Umm...that woman who called 911 had put herself in close contact with him. She opened her door to him and even offered him something to drink. She was already in close contact with him before 911 had even been called.
That 911 operator should be fired immediately. I had to back it up to listen again to make sure I heard it correctly. Sure, let the killer in the house to use your phone and maybe offer him milk and cookies while you're at it. Unbelievable!
When he tells the cops that his mother had been the best mother and basically reassures them that she did nothing wrong for him to do this, that shit shook me to my core.
The best current estimate is that just less than 1% of all noninstitutionalized males age 18 and over are psychopaths.1 This translates to approximately 1,150,000 adult males who would meet the criteria for psychopathy in the United States today. Psychopaths are twenty to twenty-five times more likely than non-psychopaths to be in prison, four to eight times more likely to violently recidivate compared to non-psychopaths, and are resistant to most forms of treatment. So while yes, it is not likely, there will always be a number of active preditors on the loose at all times.
@Danimalsfan more common than you think. Seriously. You think anyone who was murdered thought the same as you ?? I bet they ALL did, "it'd never happen to me", "not in my town it's so nice", "not my son" !! Wake up
The fact that he said he will kill again and the judge only giving 60 years and not life without parole really shows how screwed up our justice system really is.
Yeah the system is screwed. For many things they give ridiculous sentences for things that dont deserve it, and in other scenarios like this they give sentences that are not harsh enough.
I don't think she bursted into tears like that because the brother did it. But because they asked her when she last saw her mom, which probably made her realize she'll never see her mom again
no she knew her mother had died before she came into the room, she cried and was angry because it was her brother who did it, if she was just sad she wouldnt bang the table
Its like the depression phase in grieve, where it sinks in for civilians. Most people know the line from media and officials are trained to say it, when something really bad happened to someone they know and there is no doubt about it anymore that someone is dead.
@@taeguthrie4890 I'm truly sorry that happened to you ❤One of my uncles died very suddenly and completely unexpected. I will never forget my aunt, his wife, speaking at his funeral. That morning she left for work before him, so she said I love you and they gave each other a kiss. I think that's a beautiful last memory. But I always remind myself and others that the last interaction is not the most important one. All the memories you shared with a person are much more important than the last thing they said or did. The love and their life is what's most important. Not the very last words or experiences they had. The love and happiness you feel will always be bigger than the sadness. At least, I always think. I'd rather feel the pain of losing someone, than to have never known them at all. I don't know if that can bring a bit of comfort to anyone. But it helps me deal with loss
I've always wondered how killers who were "bored with life" are ok with being incarcerated for the rest of it. Can't imagine a life more boring than the one behind bars
also, this is probably a little dark but if they are so “bored with life” and “hate life” so much, why don’t they just off themselves, instead of taking innocent people down with them/murdering? *not condoning self harm btw*
Proverbs 4:5, 7 (KJV) Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth. Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. 1 Timothy 6:3-8 (KJV) If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 2 Timothy 1:7, 9-10, 13 (KJV) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel: Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.Isaiah 26:3-4 (KJV) Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:
The whole tone was weird. She’s obviously in shock. I know I watch too many detective shows, but these guys didn’t seem to have any empathy. They didn’t even try to fake it to make her comfortable enough to get helpful answers.
It makes me angry how the detectives treated the sister worse than the actual murderer. They showed zero sympathy to her but shook the hand of the murderer and showered him with compliments even though he had confessed EVERYTHING already…
I have been looking for anyone else that picked up on that too... I get when they're trying to extract info from someone they need to build rapport but the confession was done. Why go that extra mile and thank him and shake his hand. I just don't get it...
It was pretty gross when he shook his hand, the irony is that the murderer looked a little weirded out too, like he was thinking "I just told you the most disgusting crime, why are you lowkey congratulating me"
Ive never and I mean never been more disgusted and absolutely SHOCKED about the fact that he said he lost his virginity to his dead mothers corpse. Absolutely sickening my head hurts too
Thats ridiculous. There is no statistic that shows that. We dont know how long they waited the second call could have been 10 minutes later and they got there in 12 minutes.. Then we dont know they might live somewhere the nearest cops are 30 minutes away. The funny thing to me is how so many commenters want to nick pick the cops after listening to this horrific story. I see it on every video.
@@chudleyflusher7132 The majority of police work is domestic violence so most people have no problem ringing them. Cops rescue women and children everyday from drug crazed criminals, thugs and lunatics, and sometimes crazy women.
It's actually common among psychopathic killers and serial killers since the detectives probably studied it at some point they weren't surprised that he did, it's text book killer really. That and there isn't anything to be gained from him detailing how and why he had sex with her corpse it isn't a therapy session, they focused on making him admit that he isn't insane so he can't plead insanity and suggest his own sentence, once he did all that they wrapped it up within a minute.
Right! My thoughts exactly it was almost like they ignored it and the voice over guy didn’t mention it either. So extremely weird and horrifying. And the damn detective telling him he respects him and shaking his hand, WTF!
My uncle killed my grandmother..... And when I told my mom grandma was gone, the way she screamed will never leave my ears. I feel for this woman. Its one thing to lose your mom to violence, it's a whole different type of pain when the person who inflicted that violence was your literal flesh and blood. I hope she finds strength and support. I just want to hug her
When I was eight, I found my grandmother after she was murdered. The main suspect was my grandfather but the police fucked up the crime scene to the point that none of the physical evidence was admissible so pretty much every piece of evidence was thrown out. The police eventually tried to pin it on my uncle to cover up their shitty work and close the case. My uncle had an alibi and witnesses during the time the murder took place but the police hounded him until he killed himself at the age of twenty six. We cut ties with my grandfather and he drank himself to death a few years later.
@@jeffprice4376 that breaks my heart, you were just a baby. I'm sorry that happened to you. I know for me as an adult walking into that situation kinda messed me up.... No matter how long its been that stays with you. I sincerely hope you have the guidance and support you need on those days
its because shes not really shocked. she knew how horrible the mother was and the emotional abuse she put her boy through. bet you 100 bucks she was expecting it low key
I wish people would stop blaming horrible things on ADHD. I have moderate diagnosed ADHD which I take medication for, and I’m still a functional, normal human being without the medication. It’s not a severe mental disorder. It’s not. This dude has other issues.
I think the sister only brought that up to mention that was the only psychological disorder she was aware of. She also mentioned how he was never violent with them necessarily nor threatening, but that he was occasionally a little more difficult to handle.
He was probably misdiagnosed. Things like conduct disorder or FASD can look like ADHD and autism. There's a lot of overlap. More likely he always had conduct disorder or oppositional defiant disorder.
Autism is a spectrum. Adhd is on it. So is ocd,,,intrusive thoughts followed by compulsive actions. Most autistics don't become killers,,, but most killers are autistic. I'm autistic with adhd. My ocd revolves around fears and I am agoraphobic. We don't get to choose our ocd though. It could have been anything. The more we know tge better we can see it ahead of time. You protecting your ego, puts people at risk. So you DO kill people....... grow up honey
Because you didn't get a trait in the umbrella,,,,, that means you shouldn't speak on it. I bet you have traits I dint have...should I tell your peers you're faking it because I don't do that? Think kippa, think.
The way the police and 911 operator handled this was incredibly unsafe and ridiculous. Asking her to make direct, prolonged contact with a brutal killer by giving him the phone, and the police for not even showing up until after the second call.
This once happend to me in california. Some meth addict was kicking my door in Long beach. I got my Banelli pump action shotgun and pointed it at the door and called 911. 20-25+ minutes later, still no cops. It wasn't till i called them again and told them that I had a shotgun pointed at the door and would blast anything on the other side if it opens that they quickly came. The police are a total friggen joke. They'll come just in time to discover your murdered corpse.
This happened to me when I was 16. My mother attempted to murder my father, and the police hung up on me; called me back, and then made me hand the phone to my mother. My dad nearly died of blood loss because the ambulance took so long to dispatch, since they hung up on my first call. The last thing I wanted, was to be even 10 feet away from her in that moment. Small town run police are especially negligent.
Murdering your own living mother wasn’t enough, that he also had sexual intercourse with her corpse. I can’t imagine what horror it would have caused Desiree when she found out about that. What a sickening case!
Thank you, I have been going through the comment section with the video paused right after I heard the line of him saying "Oh yeah, and I lost my virginity to a corpse" in that offhanded way. Literally just scrolling with my fucking mouth agape in shock, absolutely astounded that I wasn't seeing that being mentioned in every single comment. I actually had to scroll for a while to find one that mentioned it, I have to think most people just didn't catch that part likely because many don't get that far in the video but yeah, can we talk about that? Jesus fucking Christ. My God. That's just... That's not just someone killing someone from hatred or whatever that's, fuck I don't even know what to say about it. Just think about it this way; you can't lose your virginity like that or have intercourse at all as a man unless you are aroused. So in order for him to do that, assuming he's not just saying that, like I said I am still paused I have been paused since I heard that sentence because of how absolutely shocked I am because I was not even slightly expecting to hear that here, but assuming he was not just adding that on or something, that means that after bashing in his own mother's head 20 times with a fucking hammer which I would never want to see but I can imagine how awful it would be, that he was able to get an erection and aroused enough to do that. With his mother. Honestly I would be less horrified if he had succeeded in merely strangling her, that's still enough that I would have had the same exact reaction I'm having now, but fucking hell.... At least if she was strangled to death he could imagine she was asleep, or something. Fuck. Anyways sorry for the essay, I'm using voice to text on my phone so please forgive any odd out of place words or grammatical errors, I'm too impatient to edit it because it takes too long. Hopefully you all get the gist of what I was saying
Wow. When he first spoke and said "I had always loved my mother....." i got chills. Everything from his tone of voice to the subconscious placement of the emphasis within the words was chilling.
You people were the same ones whining in the last video I watched on this channel about the detectives being "too mean" to the perpetrator. That's the problem with the internet, everyone's a fucking expert.
There's a large cut in the video of an hour after she finds out. Tissues also appears and several have been used. I am betting they cut out a fair bit of crying and comforting. Or maybe I am just being optimistic. They were a bit harsh at the end, but that may just have been them trying to rip the band aid off as they know the newspapers would get hold of the details.
The fact that the prosecutor offered him only 60 years....even with a full confession....is almost as sickening as the murder itself. The *ONLY* reason he got a life sentence was because *HE* turned down the plea deal!
@@wesleyorange8133 He only turned himself in because he figured living in a prison would be easier than living on the run. He didn't do it because he felt guilty or sorry
@@wesleyorange8133 I mean he did say if he is ever free again he would kill again so I don’t see how they could ever risk letting him out after 60 years.
@@wesleyorange8133 why is that fitting? is he going to be a reformed member of society? will him being out with the public do any good to repair the damage he's caused, and prevent him from doing more? NO WAY. He needs to be kept out of the public for their own protection.
It’s a technique detectives used to gain his confidence to keep telling them what he did otherwise, no one else could tell them the truth but the killer himself.
Again, where are all the commenters bitching on another video on the channel about how mEaN the detectives were being to the murderer? I think the worst thing about internet culture is how people only really seem to care about expressing an opinion or observation that'll get them the most likes. You all just sway with whatever the mob says.
@@pahukolofooubut the problem is he told him that and shook his hand AFTER he had confessed and told them everything. They already had his trust, that was really weird.
I’m sorry but NO, I will not give my phone to someone at my door admitting to have murdered someone! What kind of 911 operator would even ask someone to put themselves in danger like that? Smdh
@@Partyhatpossum So what? Aren''t they suppose to give good advice? They opened the door so they deserve to get hurt? I don't think you should be a 911 dispatcher with that thinking lol
Not the best move, but just listening to the tape without the narration it sounded like the person was already in the house with them. The 911 operator never asked them to go give him the phone they asked "Can I talk with him?" That's a way to let them off the hook either by answering "No, he's outside," or, if he's standing there staring at them with a bloody hammer in his hand, to distract his attention from them to the phone call. To have him acting so casual about the whole thing I doubt the operator was taking it as seriously as they should have.
Imagine risking your life and health, suffering for nine months to create and then give birth to a baby. Then that baby you nurtured grows to a monster who ends up brutally killing and raping you. The horror is unimaginable, I feel so sorry for the young woman and I really wish the mother rests in peace.
From the way the 911 operator asked the woman to put herself directly in danger, the lack of urgency from the police, and to the way the detectives delivered the news that her mother was dead prior to asking her questions and not allowing her a moment to process, is truly heartbreaking and disgusting. Just adding to the overall atrocity of the crime itself
Yep. Crazy as hell. Imagine calling the police about a stranger outside ur front door, who’s telling u “I jus murdered someone”. And the operator asked to speak to the killer. SMH. So my safety is obviously not important. And to top it all off, the police took so long to arrive she has to call up a second time. Absolutely crazy
@seranakillian1423 I wondered too why the 911 respondent asked to speak to the murderer. Very scary response! Then they get the murderer in(?) or get close enough to offer him their phone(?) a drink(?) For real??!
I couldn’t help but notice her boyfriend grab a tissue, clearly he loved her. I hope they were able to navigate through this horror and found some happiness together. God bless them both
Hearing somebody give details of a horrific crime they just committed, without emotion and in such an articulate manner is quite fascinating. I seemed to feel more emotion hearing it be recounted than he did recounting it. Very intelligent boy. Such a shame that intelligence is wasted on a souless individual.
Sorry but there is something very weird about this whole case. How can a family not care about his social welfare? And to having a healthy life. Ie friends? And a girlfriend? Something not right about it all. And then how the sister said she loved this kid? Like he is almost a stranger. That's so odd? I'm not justifying his behaviour. It's sick and unhealthy. And psychopathic. But he seems like was treated like he wasnt normal. So then became so. But why didn't they actually care properly?
@@Sol8-jl9nf There is absolutely little you can do if your child is socially awkward aside from therapy. Forced socialization ends in tears and rejection. His sister certainly wasn’t responsible for making sure he got laid or making sure he had friends. You’re victim blaming. This guy’s problem was that he was a dimwitted sociopath and people subconsciously picked up on that and avoided him like the plague.
I’m particularly saddened to know the victim was a hospice RN. I had the honor of working with several and they’re some of the most patient, kind, empathetic, absolute professionals, and amazing people on the planet. Like angels. What a tragic loss.
I think it’s weird that they went out of their way to tell her she was on a list to be killed. She’s clearly distraught. She already told them that her brother had issues AND mentioned early warning signs when she said he drew bad things. Like shooting people. They didn’t need to “dislodge her loyalty” to make her tell them early warning signs. She seems pretty open to speaking to them despite her heartache.
@@bessmay5353 I don’t think she did. If he is going to jail I am not sure she needed to know he was thinking about murdering her. Now if for safety they wanted or needed to tell her fine, but he didn’t have to do it in such a blunt way. He didn’t have to do it like he was trying to convince her. She ALREADY admitted she is aware he is not in the right state of mind. The narration says they did it to dislodge loyalty - again that didn’t seem to be an issue with her.
Not only was he proud of what he did, but he joked about it. Not everyone can be healed. or rehablitated: They are permanently broken--so why use resources to keep them alive? Especially when he makes statements like, "I like my women dead."
yep, 100 percent. and it wouldn't even be a punishment, just a process to remove him from the earth. same way a doctor would cut out a cancer. We put down rabid dogs for much less. and a dog is more valuable life than this guy
“I lost my virginity to a corpse” this sentence really got me. It’s already terrifying and disturbing on the surface, but knowing the context is even worse. Knowing he murdered his own mother, then raped her dead body is sickening, as well as the way he said it like he was bragging is all just nauseating.
He wanted to feel something. It's a crazy thing he did but if you're ever *actually* depressed, you'll understand why he did it. Not necessarily the acts he did, but why someone would do things that seem so illogical and extreme. I hope you never reach that point in your life though. It's the worst condition to have. It's better to be sad than to be nothing.
@@ethanrandall3005 no, being depressed will never ever make me or most understand why he did it an trust me, depression is far from the worst conditon to have
@@ethanrandall3005dude, what the fuck are you even saying. I've been severely suicidal, attempted a few times. Not ONCE would I ever try to "understand" why someone would murder and rape their mother. That has nothing to do with depression, there is no understanding this, there is not a person on this earth that would try and justify that using fucking depression as an excuse. What an actually absurd and wild fucking comment, you should do some soul searching my dude.
off topic but the nurses at the hospital that cared so so much about her that went to check on her themselves, they are wonderful wonderful human beings. nurses really are the best people in the world, the type of people you want to surround yourself with always
That honestly also speaks to how wonderful of a woman she was. I'm well liked at my job but couldn't imagine them actually driving to my home to check on me. She must have been a fantastic employee and coworker.
Yeah, just their snide side comments when she is trying to process all the horrible information bombarding her rubbed me the wrong way. Like they told her he planned on killing her and she’s like “Holy fuck..” and they respond with “Whatever” like they are annoyed.
It’s ridiculous that the 911 operator seemed oblivious of the extreme danger the caller was in. It’s also inexcusable that police took so long to respond to the call. Between the 911 operator and the slow police response, it’s a miracle that there weren’t more murder victims.
You have no idea what it takes to be a 911 operator, they're trained to stay calm and keep the person on the phone as long as possible and teach you sound reasoning skills which isn't easy. Nobody can say for a certainty what they'd do in any given situation, so don't bash people for doing their job, who are you to criticize anyone?
The 911 operator is trying to get information on the situation that police are about to walk into. They also can use 911 confessions cause theyre recorded. They're highly trained. Do some research before speaking next time.
please don't let your emotions win over logic/research skills. you do not know how 911 works entirely so stop with your bashing and shut up. thank you.
@@SpookyNugs”do some research” 🥴 How about you take your own advice, & look into how many incompetent, poorly trained 911 operators there actual are & how they’ve caused loss of life. Pretending every operator is “highly trained” is about as naive as it gets, & telling someone to stay in close proximity to man that just confessed to a brutal murder is damn near negligence
I have watched a lot of true crimes. Some even showing or explaining things I couldn’t get out of my head. But for some reason, THIS is the one that made me actually get sick. This is absolutely INSANE.
Time mark 36:18….. They cut out the part where he tells the cops that he had sexual relations with their pet cat, Claire, after killing it. He did the same with his own mother and was planning on his sister also. This has got to be one of the worst, if not THE worst case, of any and all cases I’ve ever heard on CZcams. This guy is literally a monster. BTW, this is an abbreviated video of the full video that can also be seen on CZcams. This one cuts out a significant portion of his confession. Just FYI for those who may be interested is learning just how screwed up some people can actually be.
“And yeah I lost my virginity to a corpse” and smirked, expecting the police to be shocked and awed. I’m glad the police officers didn’t give him the satisfaction
worse part is that he actually DIDN'T mean his mom, did he? He could tell it to you like that and you'd assume it's her he's talking about, but no, it's the cat.
@@alessandromorelli5866 Poor cat having to put up with him in it's home. Cats can be surprisingly protective over their owner. You see it sometimes caught on camera where they will attack something much bigger and stronger to protect their owner....so I wonder if the cat had met it's demise doing just that.
That was one of the most horrifying cases I’ve ever learned about. It’s absolutely insane how anyone can commit the actions he did. Prayers for Desirae and her family.
@@thomasvalentine4636"hey god, I know you created this individual and witnessed this whole thing from your sky castle but I'm sending you a prayer (and thoughts) because it's easier than actually caring and striving for a better world as it looks good on paper to my fellow cultists."
parole at 2044 is WAAAY to early, this man brutally murdered his mother and planned to do the same to his sister, he is a danger to everyone and should never be allowed to walk free again.
Reading about a different case, I think as long as they are in the mental health lockup, they aren’t considered for parole. Sounds like the mental health thing happened in his intake. States differ but i think this probably holds true.
It's because some states life in prison is deemed cruel and unusual if there's no chance of getting out. The Manson cult has had parole hearings for ages but are unlikely to get out
The son admitted that she had been the best mother and that she had done absolutely nothing, and that she did absolutely nothing to deserve this. Wow. It goes to show that even if you do your best as a mother, your kids might still desire to participate in your demise. Man!!
@@anthonyoblatore292 ummmm...I didn't say that I thought she was ok, I said I hope that she WILL BE ok, they don't actually mean the same thing. I mean that I hope that she will be ok in the future, she's so young, she still deserves to have a good life even though she had to go through this
@fazie1370 wow, that long ago! Didn't realise. But yes, that's exactly what I mean, I really hope she is doing OK in her life today, she's a beautiful girl.
This makes me nervous with my mom and brother. I had to leave because he is a psycho. I tried to bring her with me but she wanted to stay because “he needs help”. He is a 39 year old man who needs mental help. Not mommys help.
This was crazeeee! The calm manner in which he spoke and explained his story. Not death row, not a life sentence will be good enough for him: some people should just not be breathing after such a confession.
Don’t even have words to describe the empathy i feel for that girl. She found out her remaining family is basically gone and she gives as much info as she can possibly give. I just hope she has more people around her that care for her because that is some serious weight to bare
I feel the same. Nothing could justify his actions and he should never see the light of day. Something about this case is just gut wrenching. I really hope the sister knows how many people are wishing her well and that none of this was her fault. Just ouch.
There are so many layers of complexity here, each one worse than the other. I can’t imagine what she feels here. Ugh, my heart hurts so much for her, especially hearing what he put their mother through when she was alive let alone after she’d died. This case is a lot.
@@patriciaw636respectfully, people have been through much worse and survived....i feel her pain. But she is going to get therapy qnd move ahead. Some ppl never had a mother to lose, if you look at it that way. I think Kevin was ALWAYS weird with his sister and his mother.
Unfortunately, trying to get decent medical care, both physical and mental, is practically impossible. People in the medical field don't care, or take the time to listen to patients or their parents. Takes months to get an appointment & have any issues taken seriously. It's shameful that our physicians & insurance companies just worried about the almighty dollar 💰💰💰💰
You could tell that she was in shock and going through the motions to give the officers what they needed. I felt so bad for her when she reacted and hit the table then pulled herself together. Hopefully she allowed herself the time to process all of her emotions and had people around her for support.
those cops with Desirae were the absolute pinnacle of cops. just cold, heartless monsters. if it weren't for their paychecks, they would be exactly the same as Kevin. "whatever. you were on the list." what do you mean "whatever"? whatever??? what the hell
Tell me you two have never watched any of EWU’s content without telling me you two have never watched any of EWU’S content. You two can stop with the ignorance all over this comment section. Given the fact that her boyfriend was in with her, the tissues, etc. and the fact that they needed to assess her brother’s character and whether she thought him capable of the degree he went to, for the purposes of having the strongest charges possible, it was a kindness for them to tell her face to face rather than for her to find out via the media.
I feel so bad for his sister. She has to live her life knowing that he’s done horrendous things to their mother, and fantasized about killing her too. And the way he’s so nonchalant about everything too?? This is so sick in the head
@@politicallyincorrect9027good question, actually. Ofc im not totally sure why, but it seems like from the interview with her she’s aware that her brother has issues. Being his sister, she’s probably more aware of his behavior and how he was acting leading up to the murder (because her mom told her about their arguments). Either way this is a messed up situation
I love how the people who 'dont like living' and 'want to die' ALWAYS end up living, but killing everyone else - usually the ONLY people that cared about them.
Sometimes, down the road, they started feeling anger towards others. Why they live wonderful life while I'm struggling. Honestly it's just egoism, they want others to suffer too. Been there n climbed out
For myself I really don't feel any joy being alive. But I have the unrational fear that my discomfort somehow could potentially trap me in an afterlife constantly in this misery. Probably that is not a common thing given how absolutely unlikely and scientificly absurd that fear is but I think happy people are less scared of dying because they can go saying they lived their life like a normal person does and so their death will be normal and unspecial. I dont understand this life and going into death is the next possibility to get into another state of confusion and being unhappy without a cause. Does this make any sense? i guess not even the slightest
@@user-mj8bg3fw8wit made sense to me. I feel the same. And I’m really sorry to hear you do. I wish I had something helpful to say. But all I can say is I’m in the same boat as you.
Someone needs to investigate that officer saying at the conclusion after they’ve gotten everything they need out of him “I admire your mind” and shakes his hand. That guy has got to be a sicko himself
Her reaction was the most realest, sob inducing reaction i have ever seen... That emotional pain thats physical, punching the table in anger. I hope shes doing better, her and her mom deserved better
Same physical reaction I had when I found out my mom's surgery went bad. I punched the dash. Luckily I was in the passenger seat. I also threw the phone away from me. they kept her on cardiac bypass until we got there. Her heart swelled up and died during a bypass surgery. When they turned off the cardiac bypass machine all of her blood ran out into a tank. It was a nightmare inducing experience.
@@HallieEvaSo, it was not supposed to run out into the tank? Did they do something wrong? I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine losing my mom although I know one day I probably will.
Treating a killer with kindness is not only expected and normal- it's also a valuable interrogation technique to build rapport and keep them comfortable so that they're able to disclose as much information as possible. HOWEVER; shaking the hand of a killer at the very end of an interrogation and giving him a genuine compliment by saying "I admire your mind" is flat out bizarre and disgusting. That killer will remember that moment for the rest of his time behind bars. He will see that moment as validating. Especially given the sexism behind his actions/words ("I prefer my women dead"), that handshake from another man validates his sick actions even more.
Both detectives look, talk and interrogate as if they are on the first episode of Law and Order: they smell of 80s, they both are unprofessional, but the bald guy takes the cake. The way he told the sister that "yeah, you were on the list" like she won a prize, or when he asked how the killer would kill the two of them, how he interrupted his colleague - this was cringe to watch. Even if he is toughened by all the things he has seen, he had to at least pretend he cares and have some sympathy for the sister.
I understand that the detectives might have been trying to put it harshly so she didn’t try to defend him, but holy cow, SOME sympathy would have been nice. That poor girl has been through things that almost no one else has. Them coming out the gate like she had some kind of hand in it was really, really hard to watch. And what was up with the 911 responder telling the couple to walk up to the murderer at their door and put him on the phone? The police are a joke I stg.
I was so so angry watching the one to the right of her. I get that he’s seen it all and is detached in some way but my god there’s no reason to be to rude toward the victims family members. She wasn’t a suspect, he even admitted that he was planning on killing her!
Absolutely. Can they pretend to be human for just a minute? This poor young woman just lost her mother in the most horrendous way imaginable, lost her brother after finding out that he murdered their Mom, has to identify her Mother's badly beaten body, and found out that she, herself, was almost murdered. How much more trauma do they need to put her through just to maybe slightly strengthen their case? They already had forensic evidence, written confessions, a recorded interrogation with a confession..... they didn't need to do this to her. No soul.
@crosisofborg5524 the 911 operator and the bald interrogator are abysmally and objectively incompetent. we all know the world is fucked, but that does not excuse how horrendously this case was handled.
@@angryman8779 Parents aren't the scapegoats for their child's issues. Personal accountability is a thing, and the blame game needs to stop (some dads skip out for younger women or "go to get the milk" but the kids turned out just fine). People need to look in the mirror and realize choices are deliberate. Influences come from all over (media, internet, and friends having more sway then family now). He said himself that he had mental issues, but that family (or those close to you) usually refuse to acknowledge (or just in blind denial) their own family member is capable of such atrocities (Its a psychological thing: not believing someone's capable of doing such terrible things because it is against your own nature, comprehension, and reasoning). Therapy is also worthless if the one forced into it doesn't want the help (He reveled in his issues (point when he slept with his mothers' corpse)/he enjoyed festering in his dark thoughts and didn't want help) because he already had nothing else to live for. There are many other true crimes where people are sick in the head and brutally murder their families and admit that it was a fantasy, spur of the moment, or thoughts finally given birth to action....and the family was innocent. Great Examples of Socio/Psycho family murderers: Caroline Young, Amy Bishop, Ronnie O'Neal (very messed up), Tyler Hadley (tragic), Marie Robards (selfish stupidity), Chandler Halderson (one of the worst pathological lazy liars). Check out Boze vs. the World if you want someone to walk you through them, or just do your own research. Sorry for the long reply: doubt people have the attention span to read these now. 😅
@@alondra_missi growing up with one parent makes you 20 times more likely to end up in prison-this is data and statistics. Instead of writing this book (a fiction book, as a matter of fact) you could spend 30 minutes actually researching what data shows about what mommies do to their kids.
Thanks so much. I have been a reader for a really long time. I find that my clients who are older people don't really use the internet. I am trying to find a new audience online. You are so correct about the money and the experience. I see so many potentially great readers that still are looking at a book. That being said, everyone gets a break with Oracle decks😅 I wish you much happiness and success ❤
Desire if you see this, I’m so sorry for your loss. Idk if you watch these videos. But if you do ever happen to scroll through the comments, I truly hope you are healing, ❤️🩹, and I wish I could have been in the interview room, while you doing your best job, to tell the detectives what happened.
That wail of pain that Desiree let out is the most heartbreaking part. Losing someone you love, especially in the midst of such violence is something I don't think I could ever recover from. She may never heal, but I hope she'll live a life happier without her brother in it. I hope she lives a long healthy life to spite the monster that her brother has become.
@@wendyhatcher508ummm the cops told her and I am sure she was at his court trial and so therefore she heard about it all straight from his twisted mouth... 🤢
I saw this case on Signs of A Psychopath, Kevin Davis showed zero signs of remorse, no empathy, no guilt, no contrition. Even in court he showed zero emotion nor remorse.
why in the hell were these guys treating the sister like trash, they informed her that her mother was murdered and then psychologically messed with her like she was afkking suspect. DISGUSTING get them retrained asap!!!!!
They told her what they told her to: 1. Diminish loyalty to her brother (very necessary) 2. Be honest with her (also necessary) 3. Get information (also necessary) This is for her own good.
They also don't know if she had something to do with it. They watched her reaction to their statements- saw she reacted normally, and moved on. Think about the times in these videos that the suspects aren't straightforward and behave oddly. You people are hilarious. The detectives are doing their job.
I’m so glad that so many people are more concerned with being “nice” than being kind…not. Consider that the media will not pull any punches. She might still have the instinct to protect him. We have the benefit of knowing she wasn’t involved at all. Detectives play roles and they have to be really good to lie to liars. Understand that what would be “nice” and “polite” in society, isn’t always what gets the best results in an investigation.
@@tylerlormand5644 i mean if the police is asking about your mom and their investigating your brother. you can infer what happened. Especially since she knew that he was messed up. she connected the dots. it was obvious.
There was another awful case covered by the Misery Machine (a case of extreme child Abse & murder) that was by far the most horrifying case I’ve ever seen. Loads worse than this. I have never been so viscerally shocked by any case like I was by that one. I can’t remember what the name of the episode was.. it was truly horrific.
I think its important for parents to recognize psychopathic tendencies in children. My heart goes out to this poor woman that died in such a tragic way.
@@DeviceAnathemablessed to be unaware you are. Doesn't take someone with a degree to see behaviors that should NOT be displayed by a neurotypical person
I’ve known two kids who were literally born bad. Displayed behaviors early on. Their mothers saw it too. So wether you attach a name to it or not, not all kids are ok. Nor will they grow out of it.
For real. He talks about how he’s interested in “meticulous” murders. 🙄 Guy thinks he’s some Hannibal Lector genius, meanwhile he even admits his murder was sloppy and full of “blunders”.
"I was just in a very playful mood at the time" That statement just chilled me to the bone, especially when he laughed a little. That just creeps me out to no end!! I hope they never turn him loose, ever. I feel terrible for his sister and whatever family they keep close to them, and the poor woman's friends and coworkers. It is always heartbreaking when a child kills their parent, even worse when a parent kills their child.
Wtf is WRONG WITH HIM!? He needs to be donated to science and studied this is just so gross and disgusting and insane!!! He “lost his virginity to a corps?!!!” Like HOLY FUCK!
For his sister's sake, I hope he never gets out. He may have a change of feelings and need to finish what he started. I would put money on him doing just that, if he had the chance.
Her heartbroken cry is so soul crushing. I can't believe what feelings she must have gone through. I truly wish her the best and that she, and everyone who loved Kimberly Hill can find peace.❤
@@joshuac.6437just because someone is a creepy loner doesn’t mean everyone should assume they’re going to do THIS. I am very curious of his behavior in school and other parts of life, though.
@@joshuac.6437 fair enough but that all depends on the way one’s mind works and if you’re an optimist or pessimist lol. Some people really don’t think they’ll ever cross paths with such people etc. Many people see the news and what horrors are out there and they think it’ll never happen to them or their loved ones etc. When it’s close to home it can really shock people because then it’s “real”.
I have known a handful of people who are capable of doing something like this. I babysat a beautiful little boy who committed his very first horrific assault at only nine years old, he beat a four year old boy with a baseball bat. This nine year old had genius level IQ. As he got older he became sadistic and clever. As a child, he appeared angelic. Authorities had a difficult time keeping him locked up in juvenile detention. He escaped several times. He was finally arrested and charged as an adult when he was 17. He said then, his worst mistake was letting his victims live and, if he ever got out again he would not make the same mistake. He would kill the next victims. This was back in the early seventies.
In these videos we usually see the interrogations, and hear the story. So much of it is focused on the suspect, and how evil they are. Witnessing the sister hearing that her brother killed their mom BROKE me like none of these ever have.
Me too. It is agonizing to hear that kind of pure sorrow and despair. She lost her mother and sibling in one fell swoop, in two horribly different ways. She showed quite a bit of strength all things considered. I know I would be inconsolable. I really hope she has enough of a support system to have gotten her through that. Humans can be truly selfish.
yea i felt like disclosing that interview with his sister contributed close to nothing but parade some raw emotion. "hey check out this lady's sorrow. eh? eh? cool stuff huh. now gimme clicks"
@@user-bx8jq8kl7ithey're all selfish. Thats how we learn to stay alive. Its at what level we decide to shut it off and on. Ie. Abused people, or addicts need to learn how to become selfish, after their acceptance of the situation. Most ppl are people pleasers, and dont know how far to give, and when not to.
Yeah I got super annoyed at that part aswell. Like what if he had escaped during that time? Sure he willingly surrendered at first, but he could have had a change of heart just as easily cuz the thought of going to jail can make people become irrational again, what if he had decided he wanted to take more people out before he gets put away and gone around stabbing random people??? Anything could have happened during that time. Dealing with unhinged people you can't predict what's gonna happen. Jesus Christ I would take a serious look at why that police department was so tardy when there is a confirmed killer roaming the area. Surely every minor thing would be dropped immediately and the closest available cop would get there ASAP??? Some of them out on not as urgent police work could have come there ASAP and been at the scene within 5 minutes tops!
To paraphrase the Supreme Court ruling on the case Gonzalez vs Castle Rock......"law enforcement officers have no legal or Constitutional duty to protect anyone"
"There's a murderer knocking on my door." "Oh, can you put him on the phone?" HUH?
“Uhm yeah, hello Officer? I think someone’s inside my house and trying to kill me”
Officer: “oh well it’s fine, he can’t do that. It’s illegal.”
honestly this is the least shocking part to me. I unfortunately live in this shithole city and the 911 operators are mostly complete idiots. have called them for a large tractor tire in the middle of the highway on a blind curve before and they told me that "wasn’t an emergency" and "not their problem to deal with." literally 5 minutes later there was a MASSIVE car wreck there. I routinely have to call the cops because people are randomly shooting their guns around, like emptying magazines and stuff and they will ask me what the people look like and can I see outside and ask for more details. this has happened almost every time I have called for that. I'm not going outside, I'm laying flat on my living room floor, like are you serious? the ONLY place I've lived where the 911 operators literally NEVER advise you on your own safety. have been asked repeatedly for more information or to approach people overdosing on drugs in public which is pretty regular to happen here. had to explain where a major, very basic, everyone knows where it is intersection to a 911 operator. I mean.... look it up? isnt that your job? honestly this crime is the perfect thing to be well known for happening in corpus. this place is disgusting, backwards, shit education, literally half the town smells like sewage and probably 60% of residents couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag even if they were being paid to do so.
Right! Like wtf!
Not to bright...
Yeh...wtf 😮🙄
The fact the 911 operator asked that woman to ask the killer if he wanted to talk to them and putting him in close contact with this woman is just crazy. I would have never opened my door.
I know right. That was so messed up.
Yes, that struck me as really not a good thing to do & so calmly as if they had witnessed a minor offense such as a stolen bicycle had been seen or something ...not answering their door after someone killed another with a hammer !! 😱
Umm...that woman who called 911 had put herself in close contact with him. She opened her door to him and even offered him something to drink. She was already in close contact with him before 911 had even been called.
I couldn't agree more. I would've told the 911 operator to come over and ask him herself.
That 911 operator should be fired immediately. I had to back it up to listen again to make sure I heard it correctly. Sure, let the killer in the house to use your phone and maybe offer him milk and cookies while you're at it. Unbelievable!
"Open the door, give the killer your phone" might be the worst instructions ever given by a 911 operator.
Lol right?!
I don’t get it!?
@@SnowWhite-ub3gj the 911 operator asked to talk to the killer
The operator should get jail time
Well done Sherlock. The dude was already in the house, as the woman offered him a drink.
When he tells the cops that his mother had been the best mother and basically reassures them that she did nothing wrong for him to do this, that shit shook me to my core.
And these types are ALL around you 😮
@@bethanyduffy5381 well, not exactly. People like THIS are not very common i wouldnt think
The best current estimate is that just less than 1% of all noninstitutionalized males age 18 and over are psychopaths.1 This translates to approximately 1,150,000 adult males who would meet the criteria for psychopathy in the United States today.
Psychopaths are twenty to twenty-five times more likely than non-psychopaths to be in prison, four to eight times more likely to violently recidivate compared to non-psychopaths, and are resistant to most forms of treatment.
So while yes, it is not likely, there will always be a number of active preditors on the loose at all times.
Yet he claims nobody’s been nice to him before… he’s not ok upstairs
@Danimalsfan more common than you think. Seriously. You think anyone who was murdered thought the same as you ?? I bet they ALL did, "it'd never happen to me", "not in my town it's so nice", "not my son" !!
Wake up
The fact that he said he will kill again and the judge only giving 60 years and not life without parole really shows how screwed up our justice system really is.
And thats longer than most life sentences
In 60 years, he’ll be 78 and most people don’t make it that long in jail.
Even if he makes it to his firat parole hearing, he won't get it. He got a life sentsnce dont worry
Yeah the system is screwed. For many things they give ridiculous sentences for things that dont deserve it, and in other scenarios like this they give sentences that are not harsh enough.
@@lil_doggo_of_doomnever too old to walk into some crowd and start blasting. It's possible
I don't think she bursted into tears like that because the brother did it. But because they asked her when she last saw her mom, which probably made her realize she'll never see her mom again
no she knew her mother had died before she came into the room, she cried and was angry because it was her brother who did it, if she was just sad she wouldnt bang the table
Its like the depression phase in grieve, where it sinks in for civilians. Most people know the line from media and officials are trained to say it, when something really bad happened to someone they know and there is no doubt about it anymore that someone is dead.
I agree, like I knew my cousin was murdered but it really hit me when I thought about the last time I saw him and how I’d never see him again.
@@taeguthrie4890 I'm truly sorry that happened to you ❤One of my uncles died very suddenly and completely unexpected. I will never forget my aunt, his wife, speaking at his funeral. That morning she left for work before him, so she said I love you and they gave each other a kiss. I think that's a beautiful last memory. But I always remind myself and others that the last interaction is not the most important one. All the memories you shared with a person are much more important than the last thing they said or did. The love and their life is what's most important. Not the very last words or experiences they had. The love and happiness you feel will always be bigger than the sadness. At least, I always think. I'd rather feel the pain of losing someone, than to have never known them at all. I don't know if that can bring a bit of comfort to anyone. But it helps me deal with loss
@@taeguthrie4890♥️🙏🏾
I've always wondered how killers who were "bored with life" are ok with being incarcerated for the rest of it. Can't imagine a life more boring than the one behind bars
I just don't think they think that far ahead
They live for free, while citizens Pay to become free
also, this is probably a little dark but if they are so “bored with life” and “hate life” so much, why don’t they just off themselves, instead of taking innocent people down with them/murdering? *not condoning self harm btw*
Proverbs 4:5, 7 (KJV) Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
1 Timothy 6:3-8 (KJV) If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
But godliness with contentment is great gain.
For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
2 Timothy 1:7, 9-10, 13 (KJV) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.Isaiah 26:3-4 (KJV) Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.
Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:
@@megmoo96reported for encouraging sui***e
The way these detectives handled the sister is unconscionable.
They have zero bedside manner and aren't even good at eliciting the facts. Not a fan.
Oh boo hoo🙄
@@smdsnowflakes5107 Well, that was helpful.
Are you always this articulate?
The profundity is awe inspiring.
Please tell us more.
Should at least had a woman detective instead of two dudes especially a dude looking ready to retire lol
The whole tone was weird. She’s obviously in shock. I know I watch too many detective shows, but these guys didn’t seem to have any empathy. They didn’t even try to fake it to make her comfortable enough to get helpful answers.
We probably assume that detectives are a lot better than they actually are.
It makes me angry how the detectives treated the sister worse than the actual murderer. They showed zero sympathy to her but shook the hand of the murderer and showered him with compliments even though he had confessed EVERYTHING already…
I have been looking for anyone else that picked up on that too... I get when they're trying to extract info from someone they need to build rapport but the confession was done. Why go that extra mile and thank him and shake his hand. I just don't get it...
Wut u guys talking abt they never been disrespectful to her
I agree..a handshake and the words : “ thank you brother- man” ? Are you kidding me?
That pissed me off too.
It was pretty gross when he shook his hand, the irony is that the murderer looked a little weirded out too, like he was thinking "I just told you the most disgusting crime, why are you lowkey congratulating me"
Ive never and I mean never been more disgusted and absolutely SHOCKED about the fact that he said he lost his virginity to his dead mothers corpse. Absolutely sickening my head hurts too
That’s the worst part of it all to me. Revolting…..
I don’t think it’s really losing his virginity, it’s like losing virginity to a sex doll or something. It’s disgusting
That part was just too much for me, made me sick to my stomach😭
He had sex with the grey cat he murdered as well. It's beyond fucked.
Technically he lost his virginity to the dead cat...sick
It's funny how cops can turn up quickly when called by a Karen, but have to be called twice when someone is reporting a homicide
Ha! Soooo true. Lol
They're scared😢
Thats ridiculous. There is no statistic that shows that. We dont know how long they waited the second call could have been 10 minutes later and they got there in 12 minutes.. Then we dont know they might live somewhere the nearest cops are 30 minutes away. The funny thing to me is how so many commenters want to nick pick the cops after listening to this horrific story. I see it on every video.
They don’t want to be put in harm’s way. They’re the LAST ones to call if there’s trouble.
@@chudleyflusher7132 The majority of police work is domestic violence so most people have no problem ringing them. Cops rescue women and children everyday from drug crazed criminals, thugs and lunatics, and sometimes crazy women.
“i lost my virginity of a corpse” AND THEY JUST GLOSSED OVER THAT PART I WAS LIKE WAIT WHAT
and the CAT
It's actually common among psychopathic killers and serial killers since the detectives probably studied it at some point they weren't surprised that he did, it's text book killer really.
That and there isn't anything to be gained from him detailing how and why he had sex with her corpse it isn't a therapy session, they focused on making him admit that he isn't insane so he can't plead insanity and suggest his own sentence, once he did all that they wrapped it up within a minute.
Right! My thoughts exactly it was almost like they ignored it and the voice over guy didn’t mention it either. So extremely weird and horrifying. And the damn detective telling him he respects him and shaking his hand, WTF!
Don't worry, I'm sure the DA used that on the trial to get the jury to see how much of a monster he was, that's why everything is recorded
Me too.
I paused the video I just couldn't watch anymore.
My uncle killed my grandmother..... And when I told my mom grandma was gone, the way she screamed will never leave my ears. I feel for this woman. Its one thing to lose your mom to violence, it's a whole different type of pain when the person who inflicted that violence was your literal flesh and blood. I hope she finds strength and support.
I just want to hug her
:/ that's rough.
When I was eight, I found my grandmother after she was murdered. The main suspect was my grandfather but the police fucked up the crime scene to the point that none of the physical evidence was admissible so pretty much every piece of evidence was thrown out. The police eventually tried to pin it on my uncle to cover up their shitty work and close the case. My uncle had an alibi and witnesses during the time the murder took place but the police hounded him until he killed himself at the age of twenty six. We cut ties with my grandfather and he drank himself to death a few years later.
@@jeffprice4376 Well... that sucks.
I'm so sorry. I pray you and your family find peace. Sending you love and comfort ❤️
@@jeffprice4376 that breaks my heart, you were just a baby. I'm sorry that happened to you. I know for me as an adult walking into that situation kinda messed me up.... No matter how long its been that stays with you. I sincerely hope you have the guidance and support you need on those days
Desirae is an incredibly strong young woman to even be able to TALK to them coherently after this incident. My heart goes out to her.
It's not hard when you're in shock to do that, it's way worse in my experience to talk about it a week or two after everything happens.
@@Topdoggie7for some people it affects them straight away. Like you said in your experience it’s harder to talk in a week. Everyone is different
@@honeybunches4371 Yeah after a few weeks reality sinks in.
Why did she say he probably did it with a hammer 14:44 / 39:44 when the detectives never mentioned a hammer to her?
its because shes not really shocked. she knew how horrible the mother was and the emotional abuse she put her boy through. bet you 100 bucks she was expecting it low key
May the woman and that poor cat rest in peace. They’ve been through a lot.
I wish people would stop blaming horrible things on ADHD. I have moderate diagnosed ADHD which I take medication for, and I’m still a functional, normal human being without the medication. It’s not a severe mental disorder. It’s not. This dude has other issues.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS, OMFG I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO SAY IT, BUT NOT ONE OTHER PERSON SAID IT.
I think the sister only brought that up to mention that was the only psychological disorder she was aware of. She also mentioned how he was never violent with them necessarily nor threatening, but that he was occasionally a little more difficult to handle.
He was probably misdiagnosed. Things like conduct disorder or FASD can look like ADHD and autism. There's a lot of overlap. More likely he always had conduct disorder or oppositional defiant disorder.
Autism is a spectrum. Adhd is on it. So is ocd,,,intrusive thoughts followed by compulsive actions. Most autistics don't become killers,,, but most killers are autistic. I'm autistic with adhd. My ocd revolves around fears and I am agoraphobic. We don't get to choose our ocd though. It could have been anything.
The more we know tge better we can see it ahead of time. You protecting your ego, puts people at risk. So you DO kill people....... grow up honey
Because you didn't get a trait in the umbrella,,,,, that means you shouldn't speak on it. I bet you have traits I dint have...should I tell your peers you're faking it because I don't do that? Think kippa, think.
The way the police and 911 operator handled this was incredibly unsafe and ridiculous. Asking her to make direct, prolonged contact with a brutal killer by giving him the phone, and the police for not even showing up until after the second call.
This once happend to me in california. Some meth addict was kicking my door in Long beach. I got my Banelli pump action shotgun and pointed it at the door and called 911. 20-25+ minutes later, still no cops. It wasn't till i called them again and told them that I had a shotgun pointed at the door and would blast anything on the other side if it opens that they quickly came. The police are a total friggen joke. They'll come just in time to discover your murdered corpse.
Yeah 💯
@@DeepFriedDave THOSE police were!
This happened to me when I was 16. My mother attempted to murder my father, and the police hung up on me; called me back, and then made me hand the phone to my mother. My dad nearly died of blood loss because the ambulance took so long to dispatch, since they hung up on my first call. The last thing I wanted, was to be even 10 feet away from her in that moment.
Small town run police are especially negligent.
@@benamisai-kham5892I am SO sorry that you experienced that..smh
Murdering your own living mother wasn’t enough, that he also had sexual intercourse with her corpse. I can’t imagine what horror it would have caused Desiree when she found out about that. What a sickening case!
🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮
Especially since she was on his list to have the same thing happen to her.
Thank you, I have been going through the comment section with the video paused right after I heard the line of him saying "Oh yeah, and I lost my virginity to a corpse" in that offhanded way. Literally just scrolling with my fucking mouth agape in shock, absolutely astounded that I wasn't seeing that being mentioned in every single comment. I actually had to scroll for a while to find one that mentioned it, I have to think most people just didn't catch that part likely because many don't get that far in the video but yeah, can we talk about that? Jesus fucking Christ. My God. That's just... That's not just someone killing someone from hatred or whatever that's, fuck I don't even know what to say about it. Just think about it this way; you can't lose your virginity like that or have intercourse at all as a man unless you are aroused. So in order for him to do that, assuming he's not just saying that, like I said I am still paused I have been paused since I heard that sentence because of how absolutely shocked I am because I was not even slightly expecting to hear that here, but assuming he was not just adding that on or something, that means that after bashing in his own mother's head 20 times with a fucking hammer which I would never want to see but I can imagine how awful it would be, that he was able to get an erection and aroused enough to do that. With his mother. Honestly I would be less horrified if he had succeeded in merely strangling her, that's still enough that I would have had the same exact reaction I'm having now, but fucking hell.... At least if she was strangled to death he could imagine she was asleep, or something. Fuck. Anyways sorry for the essay, I'm using voice to text on my phone so please forgive any odd out of place words or grammatical errors, I'm too impatient to edit it because it takes too long. Hopefully you all get the gist of what I was saying
@@babyblue_22 it’s incredibly sickening and mad!
i was thinking i was the only one :O
@@babyblue_22
Wow. When he first spoke and said "I had always loved my mother....." i got chills. Everything from his tone of voice to the subconscious placement of the emphasis within the words was chilling.
Detective🤡 No tact, no compassion, no common sense.
You people were the same ones whining in the last video I watched on this channel about the detectives being "too mean" to the perpetrator.
That's the problem with the internet, everyone's a fucking expert.
Detective might need to be on a watchlist. Who shakes the hand of a murdering necrophiliac?
@@VeneficaDelirium womp womp
There's a large cut in the video of an hour after she finds out. Tissues also appears and several have been used. I am betting they cut out a fair bit of crying and comforting. Or maybe I am just being optimistic. They were a bit harsh at the end, but that may just have been them trying to rip the band aid off as they know the newspapers would get hold of the details.
He got a detailed confession out of the killer, which led to a conviction. I can tell you've never sniffed law school 😂
The fact that the prosecutor offered him only 60 years....even with a full confession....is almost as sickening as the murder itself. The *ONLY* reason he got a life sentence was because *HE* turned down the plea deal!
Example number 74 million on why the legal system is a joke
He has a chance of parole in about 20 years. I highly doubt he will be released but none the less, he still has that chance.
@@wesleyorange8133 He only turned himself in because he figured living in a prison would be easier than living on the run. He didn't do it because he felt guilty or sorry
@@wesleyorange8133 I mean he did say if he is ever free again he would kill again so I don’t see how they could ever risk letting him out after 60 years.
@@wesleyorange8133 why is that fitting? is he going to be a reformed member of society? will him being out with the public do any good to repair the damage he's caused, and prevent him from doing more? NO WAY. He needs to be kept out of the public for their own protection.
His note and light-hearted mood about all this is sickening. He is and will be a danger to society all his life.
What wild is he fucking knows it and just accepts that is his fate in life. Cannot imagine thinking in such a way
Needs to be put in a straight jacket and put in an isolation cell for the rest of his life.
He will forever dwell in hell.
@@sanderdeboer6034oh 😢🎉o😢😢😢f😢 u hey 😢😢😢 put t😊 up😊 😢😢 😊ud😢it 39:44 right rthere 39:44
Monsters aren’t really born they are created I’m sure if he killed her she did more than we think she did
What the hell. "I admire you" and shaking his hand? That cop needs to be investigated. 😶
It’s a technique detectives used to gain his confidence to keep telling them what he did otherwise, no one else could tell them the truth but the killer himself.
Again, where are all the commenters bitching on another video on the channel about how mEaN the detectives were being to the murderer?
I think the worst thing about internet culture is how people only really seem to care about expressing an opinion or observation that'll get them the most likes. You all just sway with whatever the mob says.
@@pahukolofooubut the problem is he told him that and shook his hand AFTER he had confessed and told them everything. They already had his trust, that was really weird.
@@VeneficaDeliriumwomp womp
@@chillicheeseballs-zf1rm Posting shit just to post.
I’m sorry but NO, I will not give my phone to someone at my door admitting to have murdered someone! What kind of 911 operator would even ask someone to put themselves in danger like that? Smdh
The kind who just got told that these people opened their door for a murderer.
Yeah wtf! I was just thinking that 💀 why would she give him the phone and why would the operator ask her to 😭
@@Partyhatpossum So what? Aren''t they suppose to give good advice? They opened the door so they deserve to get hurt? I don't think you should be a 911 dispatcher with that thinking lol
and they took forever to get there like what the fuck??
Not the best move, but just listening to the tape without the narration it sounded like the person was already in the house with them. The 911 operator never asked them to go give him the phone they asked "Can I talk with him?" That's a way to let them off the hook either by answering "No, he's outside," or, if he's standing there staring at them with a bloody hammer in his hand, to distract his attention from them to the phone call. To have him acting so casual about the whole thing I doubt the operator was taking it as seriously as they should have.
Imagine risking your life and health, suffering for nine months to create and then give birth to a baby. Then that baby you nurtured grows to a monster who ends up brutally killing and raping you. The horror is unimaginable, I feel so sorry for the young woman and I really wish the mother rests in peace.
He also Fok his own mother corpse after hemurdered her.
Women are the only ones that act like birth is dangerous. Y’all want to be 4’11 and carry the baby of a 6’5 man. Y’all the dummies.
He raped his mother?
Women don't create babies ,God does.
well, the counter argument also can be used. the baby never asked to be born 🤷
" Life bores me " > * spends rest of his life between 4 walls *
That is the devil in human form!
From the way the 911 operator asked the woman to put herself directly in danger, the lack of urgency from the police, and to the way the detectives delivered the news that her mother was dead prior to asking her questions and not allowing her a moment to process, is truly heartbreaking and disgusting. Just adding to the overall atrocity of the crime itself
Yep. Crazy as hell. Imagine calling the police about a stranger outside ur front door, who’s telling u “I jus murdered someone”. And the operator asked to speak to the killer. SMH. So my safety is obviously not important. And to top it all off, the police took so long to arrive she has to call up a second time. Absolutely crazy
@seranakillian1423
I wondered too why the 911 respondent asked to speak to the murderer.
Very scary response!
Then they get the murderer in(?) or get close enough to offer him their phone(?) a drink(?)
For real??!
NONE OF THAT SOFT SHIT WAS GOING TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT HER BROTHER KILLED HER MOTHER… shut up.
Cops and everyone around them are idiots haha
I couldn’t help but notice her boyfriend grab a tissue, clearly he loved her. I hope they were able to navigate through this horror and found some happiness together.
God bless them both
I noticed that too😢
I think it's unusual the boyfriend was in the room
@@nikkid8729he is there for support, it happens a lot you just don’t normally see it.
@@nikkid8729it’s because she was not a suspect.
Tissue = Love...
A questionable algorithm.
Whenever you're having a bad day, you can always instantly feel better about yourself knowing you're NOT this guy 🤣
Hearing somebody give details of a horrific crime they just committed, without emotion and in such an articulate manner is quite fascinating.
I seemed to feel more emotion hearing it be recounted than he did recounting it. Very intelligent boy. Such a shame that intelligence is wasted on a souless individual.
"I've never had a girlfriend." I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY.
good thing, he also said he had to take a bath first cuz his penis was well, dirty. omg how filthy!
Thank goodness. Can you imagine what he'd do to HER?!
Incel
Sorry but there is something very weird about this whole case. How can a family not care about his social welfare? And to having a healthy life. Ie friends? And a girlfriend? Something not right about it all. And then how the sister said she loved this kid? Like he is almost a stranger. That's so odd? I'm not justifying his behaviour. It's sick and unhealthy. And psychopathic. But he seems like was treated like he wasnt normal. So then became so. But why didn't they actually care properly?
@@Sol8-jl9nf There is absolutely little you can do if your child is socially awkward aside from therapy. Forced socialization ends in tears and rejection. His sister certainly wasn’t responsible for making sure he got laid or making sure he had friends. You’re victim blaming.
This guy’s problem was that he was a dimwitted sociopath and people subconsciously picked up on that and avoided him like the plague.
I’m particularly saddened to know the victim was a hospice RN. I had the honor of working with several and they’re some of the most patient, kind, empathetic, absolute professionals, and amazing people on the planet. Like angels. What a tragic loss.
Yes they are a special type of people. My mom is a hospice RN as well ❤
As a hospice RN I appreciate your kind words.
❤❤❤
@@thanksyutbeisacn7fu6r50who nurses are high school mean girls..Why so?
@@adessa97thank you for being with those in their closing pages of life.
That poor kitty 😢
Poor kitty ? A human life who was his own mother was murdererd and you’re feeling more sympathy for the kitten lmao America
@@anaxemurderer5094what on EARTH does that statement have to do with America??????? Are we always on your mind????
@@anaxemurderer5094 yes, all animals > human life
@@mileswilliams4356 I said what I said
@@anaxemurderer5094yeah wtf r these ppl on abt
I think it’s weird that they went out of their way to tell her she was on a list to be killed. She’s clearly distraught. She already told them that her brother had issues AND mentioned early warning signs when she said he drew bad things. Like shooting people. They didn’t need to “dislodge her loyalty” to make her tell them early warning signs. She seems pretty open to speaking to them despite her heartache.
exactly, they just hate her because they relate to the killer
Maybe it's to let her know
He was planning to kill her and have no sympathy for him at all
She said she did not want all the bad info dragged out. Get all done at once. She definitely needed to know she was on his list.
they were so fucking weird to her when she said “that’s crazy” and he jumped in to say ”it’s not crazy” and almost excuse him???
@@bessmay5353 I don’t think she did. If he is going to jail I am not sure she needed to know he was thinking about murdering her. Now if for safety they wanted or needed to tell her fine, but he didn’t have to do it in such a blunt way. He didn’t have to do it like he was trying to convince her. She ALREADY admitted she is aware he is not in the right state of mind. The narration says they did it to dislodge loyalty - again that didn’t seem to be an issue with her.
18?
The guy looks 47, with a mortgage and a divorce behind him already.
😂😂😂
Wicked people age faster. The spirit of God doesn't grace them in aging.
C'mon man 😂😂😂
Behind on his mortgage too. 🤦🏾♀️
@@Chiyembekezo EMERGENCY
Instant death penalty. No reason to keep an individual around like this.
He didn't get anything near the death penalty
Not only was he proud of what he did, but he joked about it. Not everyone can be healed. or rehablitated: They are permanently broken--so why use resources to keep them alive? Especially when he makes statements like, "I like my women dead."
yep, 100 percent. and it wouldn't even be a punishment, just a process to remove him from the earth. same way a doctor would cut out a cancer. We put down rabid dogs for much less. and a dog is more valuable life than this guy
100% agree. They should have taken him out after the confession
No reason to keep any of them around
“I lost my virginity to a corpse” this sentence really got me. It’s already terrifying and disturbing on the surface, but knowing the context is even worse. Knowing he murdered his own mother, then raped her dead body is sickening, as well as the way he said it like he was bragging is all just nauseating.
The "Oh and yeah" before he said that is what got me. So causal. So unexpected.
He wanted to feel something. It's a crazy thing he did but if you're ever *actually* depressed, you'll understand why he did it. Not necessarily the acts he did, but why someone would do things that seem so illogical and extreme.
I hope you never reach that point in your life though. It's the worst condition to have. It's better to be sad than to be nothing.
@@ethanrandall3005 no, being depressed will never ever make me or most understand why he did it an trust me, depression is far from the worst conditon to have
@@ethanrandall3005dude, what the fuck are you even saying. I've been severely suicidal, attempted a few times. Not ONCE would I ever try to "understand" why someone would murder and rape their mother. That has nothing to do with depression, there is no understanding this, there is not a person on this earth that would try and justify that using fucking depression as an excuse. What an actually absurd and wild fucking comment, you should do some soul searching my dude.
off topic but the nurses at the hospital that cared so so much about her that went to check on her themselves, they are wonderful wonderful human beings. nurses really are the best people in the world, the type of people you want to surround yourself with always
That honestly also speaks to how wonderful of a woman she was. I'm well liked at my job but couldn't imagine them actually driving to my home to check on me. She must have been a fantastic employee and coworker.
These police officers offered more kindness to the killer than his sister.
Thats their job to keep him talking goober 😊
@@ninjalivesmatterThey were needlessly unkind to the sister though
@@ninjalivesmatter how does that mean they have to be mean to a witness/victim?
Yeah, just their snide side comments when she is trying to process all the horrible information bombarding her rubbed me the wrong way. Like they told her he planned on killing her and she’s like “Holy fuck..” and they respond with “Whatever” like they are annoyed.
Grateful you aren't in law!
It’s ridiculous that the 911 operator seemed oblivious of the extreme danger the caller was in. It’s also inexcusable that police took so long to respond to the call. Between the 911 operator and the slow police response, it’s a miracle that there weren’t more murder victims.
You have no idea what it takes to be a 911 operator, they're trained to stay calm and keep the person on the phone as long as possible and teach you sound reasoning skills which isn't easy. Nobody can say for a certainty what they'd do in any given situation, so don't bash people for doing their job, who are you to criticize anyone?
The 911 operator is trying to get information on the situation that police are about to walk into. They also can use 911 confessions cause theyre recorded. They're highly trained. Do some research before speaking next time.
please don't let your emotions win over logic/research skills. you do not know how 911 works entirely so stop with your bashing and shut up. thank you.
In just about every 911 call I listen to, I'm silently screaming, "say that help is on the way!"
@@SpookyNugs”do some research” 🥴 How about you take your own advice, & look into how many incompetent, poorly trained 911 operators there actual are & how they’ve caused loss of life. Pretending every operator is “highly trained” is about as naive as it gets, & telling someone to stay in close proximity to man that just confessed to a brutal murder is damn near negligence
That detective was so happy that he made the paper work easier for him. He even shook his hand
I have watched a lot of true crimes. Some even showing or explaining things I couldn’t get out of my head. But for some reason, THIS is the one that made me actually get sick. This is absolutely INSANE.
Time mark 36:18…..
They cut out the part where he tells the cops that he had sexual relations with their pet cat, Claire, after killing it. He did the same with his own mother and was planning on his sister also.
This has got to be one of the worst, if not THE worst case, of any and all cases I’ve ever heard on CZcams. This guy is literally a monster.
BTW, this is an abbreviated video of the full video that can also be seen on CZcams. This one cuts out a significant portion of his confession. Just FYI for those who may be interested is learning just how screwed up some people can actually be.
Sick
He said he lost his virginity to a corpse, how sick can one be? I’m going to look for the longer version, thanks.
He sounds like all the 1970s serial killers everyone hears about
@@Harley57 If you can imagine it, a human is capable of it. If you can't... Another human can and is capable of it.
Yep. Seen the full version. The cat part is pretty gross.
They cut quite a bit out here.
“And yeah I lost my virginity to a corpse” and smirked, expecting the police to be shocked and awed. I’m glad the police officers didn’t give him the satisfaction
worse part is that he actually DIDN'T mean his mom, did he?
He could tell it to you like that and you'd assume it's her he's talking about, but no, it's the cat.
@@alessandromorelli5866oh no he did it with his mom as well not just the cat
@@coolingindaboot6853 you are aware that by virginity he means the first time, right?
you cant lose it twice
@@coolingindaboot6853 by saying he lost it with a corpse he didnt mean his mom
he meant the cat
@@alessandromorelli5866
Poor cat having to put up with him in it's home.
Cats can be surprisingly protective over their owner.
You see it sometimes caught on camera where they will attack something much bigger and stronger to protect their owner....so I wonder if the cat had met it's demise doing just that.
The incompetence of the 911 operator to ask "can I talk to him" after she just told you SHES SCARED .no INVITE him inside ...WTF??????
..that is just...sickening..
That was one of the most horrifying cases I’ve ever learned about. It’s absolutely insane how anyone can commit the actions he did. Prayers for Desirae and her family.
I'm saying a prayer right now.
Peace ✌🏻
Can you think of something more positive to say, as prayers don't work?
he's obviously menta, a psychopath. But in prison that doesnt matter...he's a short skinny virgin boy. He'll learn real quick how the world works ...
@@thomasvalentine4636"hey god, I know you created this individual and witnessed this whole thing from your sky castle but I'm sending you a prayer (and thoughts) because it's easier than actually caring and striving for a better world as it looks good on paper to my fellow cultists."
Look up takoda Collins case. It's even worse 😥
parole at 2044 is WAAAY to early, this man brutally murdered his mother and planned to do the same to his sister, he is a danger to everyone and should never be allowed to walk free again.
The parole board likely will never let him out
And his answer to if he would kill again was "Yes, definitely." Lock this man up and throw away the key.
They’ll never actually let him out, he’ll just have the eligibility for it to be considered which is insane within itself
Reading about a different case, I think as long as they are in the mental health lockup, they aren’t considered for parole. Sounds like the mental health thing happened in his intake. States differ but i think this probably holds true.
It's because some states life in prison is deemed cruel and unusual if there's no chance of getting out. The Manson cult has had parole hearings for ages but are unlikely to get out
What a sick, twisted individual! His mother AND a CAT? Wow, gross!!!!! I feel so bad for his sister 😭
Those poor investigators, they take these crimes with them.
But bless the sister... 😢❤
The son admitted that she had been the best mother and that she had done absolutely nothing, and that she did absolutely nothing to deserve this. Wow. It goes to show that even if you do your best as a mother, your kids might still desire to participate in your demise. Man!!
Brain chemistry
this is what happens when psychopathy isn't scanned for at birth. couldve been avoided if he had been put down at birth
@@fen_vt who is blaming the mother? Do you have some resentment towards men?
@@fen_vt ok, can you give me a single example by tagging me in one of the comments? I can't seem to see any.
@@fen_vt I'm still waiting for you to give me an example of a single person blaming the mother 😂
I cannot even imagine how painful this would be for Desirae. I hope that she will be ok. Nobody deserves to go through this, it is horrific.
umm.. she's definitely not ok😮
@@anthonyoblatore292 ummmm...I didn't say that I thought she was ok, I said I hope that she WILL BE ok, they don't actually mean the same thing. I mean that I hope that she will be ok in the future, she's so young, she still deserves to have a good life even though she had to go through this
@@Danica.Powellthis case occurred in 2014. Though you can never fully recover from this, I think these past 9 years have helped her recover
@fazie1370 wow, that long ago! Didn't realise. But yes, that's exactly what I mean, I really hope she is doing OK in her life today, she's a beautiful girl.
@@Danica.PowellShe will never be ok. It's just not possible after something like this.
This makes me nervous with my mom and brother. I had to leave because he is a psycho. I tried to bring her with me but she wanted to stay because “he needs help”. He is a 39 year old man who needs mental help. Not mommys help.
This was crazeeee! The calm manner in which he spoke and explained his story. Not death row, not a life sentence will be good enough for him: some people should just not be breathing after such a confession.
Don’t even have words to describe the empathy i feel for that girl. She found out her remaining family is basically gone and she gives as much info as she can possibly give. I just hope she has more people around her that care for her because that is some serious weight to bare
I feel the same. Nothing could justify his actions and he should never see the light of day. Something about this case is just gut wrenching. I really hope the sister knows how many people are wishing her well and that none of this was her fault. Just ouch.
There are so many layers of complexity here, each one worse than the other. I can’t imagine what she feels here. Ugh, my heart hurts so much for her, especially hearing what he put their mother through when she was alive let alone after she’d died.
This case is a lot.
@MummyBrown yeah I'll say it was a lot. I couldn't even wrap my head around it. Peace
I cant imagine how much help she would need for this. Realistically her therapist is probably gonna need a therapist
@@patriciaw636respectfully, people have been through much worse and survived....i feel her pain. But she is going to get therapy qnd move ahead. Some ppl never had a mother to lose, if you look at it that way. I think Kevin was ALWAYS weird with his sister and his mother.
Letting people like this continue existing is what's most criminal
it seemed he wanted to die though. now he will rot in jail.
Amen
True
I think the smart thing would be for a profiler to study this one in hope it can be used to prevent others
Yes. A waste of resources
We have to sensor the word "Abuse" now too?! Wtf
We need more early detection of children acting cruel against animals to filter out the Psychos
There were many signs that something was wrong with him. I wonder if they ever had him evaluated because "severe ADHD" is the least of his issues.
YES. It is ignored like 99% of the time but no one wants to admit their kid is a sicko for hurting animals.
As soon as he paused and said “well…” about losing his virginity I immediately yelled “DON’T FUCK THE CAT!” at my screen
I don’t understand. Did he rape the cat ?
Unfortunately, trying to get decent medical care, both physical and mental, is practically impossible. People in the medical field don't care, or take the time to listen to patients or their parents. Takes months to get an appointment & have any issues taken seriously. It's shameful that our physicians & insurance companies just worried about the almighty dollar 💰💰💰💰
She is absolutely in shock. She seems calm for the moment but she’s clearly traumatized and will need therapy for years.
You could tell that she was in shock and going through the motions to give the officers what they needed. I felt so bad for her when she reacted and hit the table then pulled herself together. Hopefully she allowed herself the time to process all of her emotions and had people around her for support.
those cops with Desirae were the absolute pinnacle of cops. just cold, heartless monsters. if it weren't for their paychecks, they would be exactly the same as Kevin. "whatever. you were on the list." what do you mean "whatever"? whatever??? what the hell
exactly they’re disgusting
They were more polite to the killer than they were to her. The balding one acted like he wanted to finish the list.
@@La-PetitMort cops are basically paid to do what that murderer did, after all
Tell me you two have never watched any of EWU’s content without telling me you two have never watched any of EWU’S content. You two can stop with the ignorance all over this comment section. Given the fact that her boyfriend was in with her, the tissues, etc. and the fact that they needed to assess her brother’s character and whether she thought him capable of the degree he went to, for the purposes of having the strongest charges possible, it was a kindness for them to tell her face to face rather than for her to find out via the media.
@@TheBaumcm you are giving cops and EWU too much credit. acab
This is so sad. My heart goes out to the sister. May her mom rest in peace
I feel so bad for his sister. She has to live her life knowing that he’s done horrendous things to their mother, and fantasized about killing her too. And the way he’s so nonchalant about everything too?? This is so sick in the head
Why did she say he probably did it with a hammer 14:44 / 39:44 when the detectives never mentioned a hammer to her?
@@politicallyincorrect9027good question, actually. Ofc im not totally sure why, but it seems like from the interview with her she’s aware that her brother has issues. Being his sister, she’s probably more aware of his behavior and how he was acting leading up to the murder (because her mom told her about their arguments). Either way this is a messed up situation
riight, something is sus here 🍎@@politicallyincorrect9027
He would be dead to me. I would never speak to him or even speak his name again.
@@lulumort Agreed. Very horrifying situation
I love how the people who 'dont like living' and 'want to die' ALWAYS end up living, but killing everyone else - usually the ONLY people that cared about them.
Sometimes, down the road, they started feeling anger towards others. Why they live wonderful life while I'm struggling. Honestly it's just egoism, they want others to suffer too. Been there n climbed out
Most people who fee this way probably normal non violent depressed people tbf
For myself I really don't feel any joy being alive. But I have the unrational fear that my discomfort somehow could potentially trap me in an afterlife constantly in this misery. Probably that is not a common thing given how absolutely unlikely and scientificly absurd that fear is but I think happy people are less scared of dying because they can go saying they lived their life like a normal person does and so their death will be normal and unspecial. I dont understand this life and going into death is the next possibility to get into another state of confusion and being unhappy without a cause. Does this make any sense? i guess not even the slightest
@@user-mj8bg3fw8wjust glad you're still here giving it your best
@@user-mj8bg3fw8wit made sense to me. I feel the same. And I’m really sorry to hear you do. I wish I had something helpful to say. But all I can say is I’m in the same boat as you.
All these videos are bringing a lot of light on so much
Someone needs to investigate that officer saying at the conclusion after they’ve gotten everything they need out of him “I admire your mind” and shakes his hand. That guy has got to be a sicko himself
Her reaction was the most realest, sob inducing reaction i have ever seen... That emotional pain thats physical, punching the table in anger. I hope shes doing better, her and her mom deserved better
Same physical reaction I had when I found out my mom's surgery went bad. I punched the dash. Luckily I was in the passenger seat. I also threw the phone away from me. they kept her on cardiac bypass until we got there. Her heart swelled up and died during a bypass surgery. When they turned off the cardiac bypass machine all of her blood ran out into a tank. It was a nightmare inducing experience.
@HallieEva I'm so sorry. My condolences to you and your loved ones. Take care.
@@HallieEvaSo, it was not supposed to run out into the tank? Did they do something wrong? I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine losing my mom although I know one day I probably will.
Treating a killer with kindness is not only expected and normal- it's also a valuable interrogation technique to build rapport and keep them comfortable so that they're able to disclose as much information as possible. HOWEVER; shaking the hand of a killer at the very end of an interrogation and giving him a genuine compliment by saying "I admire your mind" is flat out bizarre and disgusting. That killer will remember that moment for the rest of his time behind bars. He will see that moment as validating. Especially given the sexism behind his actions/words ("I prefer my women dead"), that handshake from another man validates his sick actions even more.
I agree with you. That was bizarre and disgusting and I'm still in shock he did that.
Both detectives look, talk and interrogate as if they are on the first episode of Law and Order: they smell of 80s, they both are unprofessional, but the bald guy takes the cake. The way he told the sister that "yeah, you were on the list" like she won a prize, or when he asked how the killer would kill the two of them, how he interrupted his colleague - this was cringe to watch. Even if he is toughened by all the things he has seen, he had to at least pretend he cares and have some sympathy for the sister.
He did give him an awesome easy job that day. I guess he was admiring his honesty.
Shaking hands with evil murderers seems like bad JuJu to me. Talk about bad vibes to one's soul.
It is very sad that misogyny is alive and well.
Her reaction wasn’t about her brother but her mother’s passing. When the inspector asked her when was the last time she saw her mother.
This is a good depiction between a psychopath and a sociopathic they are not the same and people often get them confused
I understand that the detectives might have been trying to put it harshly so she didn’t try to defend him, but holy cow, SOME sympathy would have been nice. That poor girl has been through things that almost no one else has. Them coming out the gate like she had some kind of hand in it was really, really hard to watch. And what was up with the 911 responder telling the couple to walk up to the murderer at their door and put him on the phone? The police are a joke I stg.
I was also really frustrated with the investigators with how they talked to Desirae. Like jfc can SOMEONE show this poor girl some empathy??
I was so so angry watching the one to the right of her. I get that he’s seen it all and is detached in some way but my god there’s no reason to be to rude toward the victims family members. She wasn’t a suspect, he even admitted that he was planning on killing her!
@@crosisofborg5524yeah real life where empathy is a thing that exists you cornball plz go outside instead of being an edge lord
Absolutely. Can they pretend to be human for just a minute? This poor young woman just lost her mother in the most horrendous way imaginable, lost her brother after finding out that he murdered their Mom, has to identify her Mother's badly beaten body, and found out that she, herself, was almost murdered. How much more trauma do they need to put her through just to maybe slightly strengthen their case? They already had forensic evidence, written confessions, a recorded interrogation with a confession..... they didn't need to do this to her. No soul.
@crosisofborg5524 the 911 operator and the bald interrogator are abysmally and objectively incompetent. we all know the world is fucked, but that does not excuse how horrendously this case was handled.
Someone needs to make a video about how amazing the mom was. No one deserves to be known for this.
Amazing? The dude was not once examined by a psychiatrist-a clear sign that his mommy could care less.
@@MikesDIY she at the very least contributed to his insanity. Where is daddy and why hasn’t this dude been to a therapist?
You should make the video then… if you really cared any bit whatsoever
@@angryman8779 Parents aren't the scapegoats for their child's issues. Personal accountability is a thing, and the blame game needs to stop (some dads skip out for younger women or "go to get the milk" but the kids turned out just fine). People need to look in the mirror and realize choices are deliberate. Influences come from all over (media, internet, and friends having more sway then family now). He said himself that he had mental issues, but that family (or those close to you) usually refuse to acknowledge (or just in blind denial) their own family member is capable of such atrocities (Its a psychological thing: not believing someone's capable of doing such terrible things because it is against your own nature, comprehension, and reasoning). Therapy is also worthless if the one forced into it doesn't want the help (He reveled in his issues (point when he slept with his mothers' corpse)/he enjoyed festering in his dark thoughts and didn't want help) because he already had nothing else to live for.
There are many other true crimes where people are sick in the head and brutally murder their families and admit that it was a fantasy, spur of the moment, or thoughts finally given birth to action....and the family was innocent.
Great Examples of Socio/Psycho family murderers: Caroline Young, Amy Bishop, Ronnie O'Neal (very messed up), Tyler Hadley (tragic), Marie Robards (selfish stupidity), Chandler Halderson (one of the worst pathological lazy liars). Check out Boze vs. the World if you want someone to walk you through them, or just do your own research.
Sorry for the long reply: doubt people have the attention span to read these now. 😅
@@alondra_missi growing up with one parent makes you 20 times more likely to end up in prison-this is data and statistics.
Instead of writing this book (a fiction book, as a matter of fact) you could spend 30 minutes actually researching what data shows about what mommies do to their kids.
Thanks so much. I have been a reader for a really long time. I find that my clients who are older people don't really use the internet. I am trying to find a new audience online. You are so correct about the money and the experience. I see so many potentially great readers that still are looking at a book. That being said, everyone gets a break with Oracle decks😅
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Desire if you see this, I’m so sorry for your loss. Idk if you watch these videos. But if you do ever happen to scroll through the comments, I truly hope you are healing, ❤️🩹, and I wish I could have been in the interview room, while you doing your best job, to tell the detectives what happened.
"I admire your mind. Thank you brother man." That was deeply disturbing.
I couldn’t agree more. He shook hands with the devil.
That's how detectives work 💀
Nah. I get it. They never meet sick murderers this forthcoming. He admires that aspect of his mind. Believe me, he knows how sick this dude is.
Maybe they also have a desire to hurt women.
Yeah WTF was that.
That wail of pain that Desiree let out is the most heartbreaking part. Losing someone you love, especially in the midst of such violence is something I don't think I could ever recover from. She may never heal, but I hope she'll live a life happier without her brother in it. I hope she lives a long healthy life to spite the monster that her brother has become.
Yeah, I agree. But how did she know how he killed her?
@@wendyhatcher508ummm the cops told her and I am sure she was at his court trial and so therefore she heard about it all straight from his twisted mouth... 🤢
@@KatHeart-dd6sk Why did she say he probably did it with a hammer 14:44 / 39:44 when the detectives never mentioned a hammer to her?
Why did she say he probably did it with a hammer 14:44 / 39:44 when the detectives never mentioned a hammer to her?
@@politicallyincorrect9027I don’t know, why?
I saw this case on Signs of A Psychopath, Kevin Davis showed zero signs of remorse, no empathy, no guilt, no contrition. Even in court he showed zero emotion nor remorse.
why in the hell were these guys treating the sister like trash, they informed her that her mother was murdered and then psychologically messed with her like she was afkking suspect. DISGUSTING get them retrained asap!!!!!
They told her what they told her to:
1. Diminish loyalty to her brother (very necessary)
2. Be honest with her (also necessary)
3. Get information (also necessary)
This is for her own good.
They also don't know if she had something to do with it. They watched her reaction to their statements- saw she reacted normally, and moved on.
Think about the times in these videos that the suspects aren't straightforward and behave oddly.
You people are hilarious. The detectives are doing their job.
I’m so glad that so many people are more concerned with being “nice” than being kind…not. Consider that the media will not pull any punches. She might still have the instinct to protect him. We have the benefit of knowing she wasn’t involved at all. Detectives play roles and they have to be really good to lie to liars. Understand that what would be “nice” and “polite” in society, isn’t always what gets the best results in an investigation.
18??? He looks older than me and I’m 35 😂
The way she tried to keep it together when they told her and then she lost it broke my heart I wish I could hug her 😭😭
nahhh .....she knew bout that shit
@@tylerlormand5644you are disgusting
@@tylerlormand5644 i mean if the police is asking about your mom and their investigating your brother. you can infer what happened. Especially since she knew that he was messed up. she connected the dots. it was obvious.
i watch a lot of true crime and interrogations, this is by far one of the top 5 most evil and horrific cases i’ve ever come across.
I can't think of 1 crime show I watched where a kid killed his mom & had sex with her dead body. Disgusting!
Ed Kemper came before this guy
The depravity is beyond words.
There was another awful case covered by the Misery Machine (a case of extreme child Abse & murder) that was by far the most horrifying case I’ve ever seen. Loads worse than this. I have never been so viscerally shocked by any case like I was by that one. I can’t remember what the name of the episode was.. it was truly horrific.
The most fucked up one is Grant Amato.
The fact this poor woman’s last hours were knowing her own son was a monster who was gonna kill her is fuckin awful
How disgusting of the detective to shake his hand and say “Thank you brother man”. He made me sick to my stomach.
imagine how it made him feel, i can't
I think its important for parents to recognize psychopathic tendencies in children. My heart goes out to this poor woman that died in such a tragic way.
My son is still very young, but these videos help remind me that I need to watch for these subtle signs closely.
Children cannot be diagnosed with psychopathy. Their brains are still developing. The last things we need are more Google MDs.
@@tancred12 You don't have the skills for that. I know this because you're suggesting it in the first place. I'm terrified for your son.
@@DeviceAnathemablessed to be unaware you are. Doesn't take someone with a degree to see behaviors that should NOT be displayed by a neurotypical person
I’ve known two kids who were literally born bad. Displayed behaviors early on. Their mothers saw it too. So wether you attach a name to it or not, not all kids are ok. Nor will they grow out of it.
It's funny how murderers get so "deep" when they kill someone. "She may yet live" ohhhhh brother. No one talks like that you dork.
Fr they think they like Shakespeare or something
@@grahamkight9111 right?! Like they've just become some great philosopher or something
@@joshzzygamingwondering if it’s maybe an ego thing for them ?
All weirdos speak like they are in some kind of play
For real. He talks about how he’s interested in “meticulous” murders. 🙄 Guy thinks he’s some Hannibal Lector genius, meanwhile he even admits his murder was sloppy and full of “blunders”.
"the killer is at your door? can you do me a favor and open the door....." lmfao she needs to be fired immediately
“I’m a cruel disgusting person”
Yeah. Yeah ya are.
“I’ve never had a girlfriend”
I bet we were all really shocked by that revelation 😂
That's the only funny part of this 😂
@@DrJ-hx7wv funny ?
Thank god for that!
By the way he acts, no fucking surprise!! 💀💀
@@DrJ-hx7wv I couldn't find humor in this.
"I was just in a very playful mood at the time" That statement just chilled me to the bone, especially when he laughed a little. That just creeps me out to no end!! I hope they never turn him loose, ever. I feel terrible for his sister and whatever family they keep close to them, and the poor woman's friends and coworkers. It is always heartbreaking when a child kills their parent, even worse when a parent kills their child.
Then youre giving the exact response that he wants. He's just trolling for attention.
Sir. he commited a crime@@jb2599
Oh, he'll never get out!!
Wtf is WRONG WITH HIM!? He needs to be donated to science and studied this is just so gross and disgusting and insane!!! He “lost his virginity to a corps?!!!” Like HOLY FUCK!
For his sister's sake, I hope he never gets out. He may have a change of feelings and need to finish what he started. I would put money on him doing just that, if he had the chance.
That's so messed up. Rest in Peace Kimberly Hill.
19:28 Ah. Mig. Dah. La. He said amygdala, like it was 4 separate words 😂❤
Her heartbroken cry is so soul crushing. I can't believe what feelings she must have gone through. I truly wish her the best and that she, and everyone who loved Kimberly Hill can find peace.❤
The fact that it was the first thing she even thought of when they mentioned him is crazy. Like she knew he was gonna do it some day.
If he is hating life so badly, instead of putting it out on people that love him, he should take it out on himself.
Exactly. Or just get help you know?
This is why I'm so overly protective of my kids. 😔 This world and the people in it are crazy
It's terrifying what goes through the minds of certain men. Scary stuff.
I suggested this to you! 😭 Thanks for listening! I went to school with him… it was a huge shock to the community…
He wasn't creepy or weird or anything before this? Why was it a shock?
@@joshuac.6437just because someone is a creepy loner doesn’t mean everyone should assume they’re going to do THIS. I am very curious of his behavior in school and other parts of life, though.
@@Lunar_Butterfly yea but it makes it less shocking
@@joshuac.6437 fair enough but that all depends on the way one’s mind works and if you’re an optimist or pessimist lol. Some people really don’t think they’ll ever cross paths with such people etc. Many people see the news and what horrors are out there and they think it’ll never happen to them or their loved ones etc. When it’s close to home it can really shock people because then it’s “real”.
I have known a handful of people who are capable of doing something like this.
I babysat a beautiful little boy who committed his very first horrific assault at only nine years old, he beat a four year old boy with a baseball bat.
This nine year old had genius level IQ.
As he got older he became sadistic and clever.
As a child, he appeared angelic.
Authorities had a difficult time keeping him locked up in juvenile detention.
He escaped several times.
He was finally arrested and charged as an adult when he was 17.
He said then, his worst mistake was letting his victims live and, if he ever got out again he would not make the same mistake.
He would kill the next victims.
This was back in the early seventies.
In these videos we usually see the interrogations, and hear the story. So much of it is focused on the suspect, and how evil they are. Witnessing the sister hearing that her brother killed their mom BROKE me like none of these ever have.
Me too. It is agonizing to hear that kind of pure sorrow and despair. She lost her mother and sibling in one fell swoop, in two horribly different ways. She showed quite a bit of strength all things considered. I know I would be inconsolable. I really hope she has enough of a support system to have gotten her through that. Humans can be truly selfish.
yea i felt like disclosing that interview with his sister contributed close to nothing but parade some raw emotion. "hey check out this lady's sorrow. eh? eh? cool stuff huh. now gimme clicks"
@@user-bx8jq8kl7ithey're all selfish. Thats how we learn to stay alive. Its at what level we decide to shut it off and on. Ie. Abused people, or addicts need to learn how to become selfish, after their acceptance of the situation. Most ppl are people pleasers, and dont know how far to give, and when not to.
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I can’t believe he did that with his Moms body
My mom used to work at monford in lubbock texas as a nurse. From the stories ive heard that place is hell.
She had to call the police twice to ask where they were. Bravo. They should hang out with the Uvalde cops and exchange stories of incompetence.
Yeah I got super annoyed at that part aswell. Like what if he had escaped during that time? Sure he willingly surrendered at first, but he could have had a change of heart just as easily cuz the thought of going to jail can make people become irrational again, what if he had decided he wanted to take more people out before he gets put away and gone around stabbing random people??? Anything could have happened during that time. Dealing with unhinged people you can't predict what's gonna happen. Jesus Christ I would take a serious look at why that police department was so tardy when there is a confirmed killer roaming the area. Surely every minor thing would be dropped immediately and the closest available cop would get there ASAP??? Some of them out on not as urgent police work could have come there ASAP and been at the scene within 5 minutes tops!
Dave Chappelle's gang skit - "police promptly arrived four hours later"
The police asked her to put him on the phone, the police literally put her in danger …. After that, what can surprise you more?
To paraphrase the Supreme Court ruling on the case Gonzalez vs Castle Rock......"law enforcement officers have no legal or Constitutional duty to protect anyone"
I've heard the same stories about Harris County Police as well. Texas cops man