Korg M1 some custom patches and editing!
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- I found this KORG M1 in a pawnshop :) It was in rather bad condition: the internal battery died, most of the buttons did not work, some of them were broken and missing, the joystick was broken, the aftertouch did not work, some of the outputs did not work.. Someone painted the front panel with black paint.. badly :D
I repaired almost everything except the joystick, because I don't have it :)
So here are the results.
I did not want to show the basic presets, this is already shown a hundred times. Here are a few of my presets and also shows deep editing of the patch. Perhaps people who have never edited the sounds on this synthesizer will get some ideas :)
This style of text for the video was of course a little bit inspired by Red Means Recording :)
His channel is awesome and if you haven't seen it yet, be sure to check it out! - Hudba
Such depth can be achieved in Combi mode! When i was young I saved up and bought a M1 brand new, the year they were released. It was my everything, my only synth and I used the sequencer for complex songs, ran it in multitimbral mode so each individual program was 2 voices max. It got the job done but nowadays I approach it differently as it can integrate into the studio as a single instrument and use all those layers. Still have it!
yeah, and don't forget the keyboard itself, it is so much better than anything you can buy these days even in 3x price range.. Real mechanical keys and they are so nice to play.
This is one fine example of fantastic sound design prowess
THanks!!👍
So luscious. This has inspired me to unpack my old hardware Korg Wavestation.
I own the Wavestation too. Is really a fantastic synth!:)
Excellent. I love when people go deep with iconic synths. To show they are much more than just the preests they are famous for. I tried to do this with the DX7
Thanks! yeah exactly, it is a synthesizer, not a preset player :)
That's the best I've ever heard the M1. You did a nice job with those sounds!
Great to hear some non-factory sounds, it seems that everybody assumes that the M1 is only capable of doing the classic M1 sounds but in fact it is capable of so much more. Bought my one when it hit the market and still use it. Once you start to overdub you can get some really beautiful things out of it. I think that on the whole, it sounds surprisingly warm and organic for being a digital synth. Now my dream is to get a few low cost MIDI modules (TX816, Roland D-110, U-220...) to run from the sequencer, to Ibreak out of the habit and the comforts of my DAW + Vst. It should be an interesting journey.
These patches sounds great! Thanks for uploading this M1 demo!
You sure have some sweet sounds there. Loving the ambient strings at the end.
yeah, thanks! CZcams chews up some high frequencies, in fact it sounds even better when you listen in person
Wow the pads towards the end created some really nice sound layers.I really liked them. and that headbanginh bit in the middle and end was crazyness, in a Good way.
Wow,dude that's just beautiful,please keep releasing more stuff about Korg M1
This was my first synth! You make it sound fantastic!
Thanks man!
that last one is incredible... what a great sound
The beasts that lurk inside "romplers"...
Incredible acoustic palette!
M1 is still a powerful synthesizer and it can sound pretty awesome. Great video!
Thanks for this! I watched this video trying to decide whether I should buy an M1 available nearby, and after hearing what you've done with it, I gravitate towards going for it!
Thank you =) Don't forget M1 has great mechanical keyboard. If price is good, I would get it even for the keyboard itself, it is very nice.
Thought there was a reason I held on to my M1 this is it ,so mutch potential, just needs a genius to get it to sing,you did just that.
outstanding programming... I would definitely purchase those!
Nice synthesis job!, you have a lot of talent programming (and a very good taste). Congratulations!
Thank you so much!
Wow - that super saw!!
Freaking aaaaaawesome. Thats what i call a commercial keyboard in the right hands ;)
Thanks! I just love to dive deep into synthesis, it is fun :)
Great sounds! Was looking for one, but ended with a Korg DSS-1 which has some of the basic sounds on floppydisks that ended up on the M1!
The DSS-1 is far more complex than the M1. You lucked out. Of course now you can never part with it because it is the size of a Volkswagen.
excelentes sonidos oscuros! Ideal para el drama!
Amazing!!!
i would love to watch your workflow when making sounds for this wolf sheep thing of beauty
Yeeeeah, this is what I wanted to see. I needed someone to show me how much kick this oldie has, thanks a lot. I'm about to buy one for ~100 usd/90 eur. Will need slight repairs but nothing major.
For $100 you will not be disappointed :) Even as a midi keyboard, it's cool. Very nice fully mechanical keys with aftertouch, etc.. But it is bulky and takes up a lot of space in the room.
I think it's good for strings or pads (as of 2019), maybe bass.. and some pseudo-realistic retro sounds.
But the editing is not that simple, everything is done through the menu.. If you want to use an external midi controller, you need one with SysEx support.
@@SkinnyVampiress It's gone! In just few hours after it was added! I'm gutted... There is another one for ~200$ in perfect shape... Must save up and get one though... Your vid made my mind on what I need :) I'm new to synths, normaly a bass player, sludge/stoner/doom, but after I got my first keys I just gone wild. I got yamaha psr36 and yamaha pss 380 both in mint condition for about 60$ altogether and I manage to squeeze some decent dark ambient sounds from them. They are cool, as the synthesis (although limited) is controled with sliders, quick and easy.
Still, I don't mind the way you create sounds on M1, I record on Korg D4, which is 4 tracker and digital effects processor (flangers and pitch shifters makes those yamahas much more alive), and it has very simmiliar input method. I actually enjoy it, I hate to use laptop when composing. It destracts me. Dedicated hardware is the way.
Cool, I also have some metal/industrial/doom background =) But now I am more into synths for some reason..
You can look at the rack version, M1R, and their -ex addition.. In fact, these days, you can find many old digital synthesizers at very attractive prices. Don't worry too much about M1, if you can not find it..
It was my first synth. So many great sounds, it's truly a classic.
Are you not disappointed that I do not show typical presets? :)
I had a feeling that those who once owned it, would say like "whaat?.."
In fact, sounds there are great. I can recognize a dozen of my favorite songs from the 90s that used these sounds.. It's such an iconic synth..
You playing with the distortion and the drum kit reminds me a lot of what I used to do back in the 90's when I owned one. Such great string sounds too. I especially like that Sawtooth patch with aftertouch, that's something I never did back then.@@SkinnyVampiress
It's nice to hear, thank you =)
Thanks finally a video I can relate too
Chris
Amazing how people can pick up gear in a shocking state and revive them TO GLORY! Well done. I did the same with a D50 and a XP80. However, some people who have responded to your video asked if the patches are available for sharing or to purchase. I am definitely INTERESTED. PLEASE!
Just fantastic! Can I get those sounds anyhow?
Skinny I can't wait to see what you come up with
I'm actually recording some ambient music on a cassette tape right now
Count me in to the list of those who would love the SYSEX of these custom patches if you still have this keyboard and want to share them. Cool stuff, man! I’ve plugged in some custom patches I found online but they’re not nearly as inspiring as yours.
Great Job! The M1 is so much more than it‘s presets…
I agree, thanks!
why does this paf in the end sound so warm?? great video, Skinny. have fun with ur m1
I don't know :) maybe it is m1 ensemble effect. thanks mate!
nice. I own a Roland D-50, some of the sounds are quite similar. And i have a Korg 05R/W
Sounds great Skinny. What luck finding a real one. I have the iPad simulation, but this is great! :-)
It cost me about $115 and a few nights of repair :D thank you!
@@SkinnyVampiress Well worth it! :-)
3:43 was the sickest my goodness
haha cool \m/
Wow, amazing sounds! Is there a user bank where you can store them?
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Спасибо за музыку Skinny и с наступающими праздниками! :)
тебя тоже!))
No one would believe that was an M1.
😮 M1.
wow
Wow I ordered a used Korg M1R ex the rackmount version with extended sounds, so it should be here in next couple of days. I think that the "supersaw" sounded really good and usually the JP-8000/8080 is credited with the first "supersaw" but I think the Korg M1 could do it all along since 1988 wow!
it's from 1989 :)
@@SkinnyVampiress no offense but on Korg's website it says "In 1988 KORG released the legendary M1"
@@bevolkisch4628 ok..... why I thought it was from 89.... lol. Congratulations with your M1R by the way :)
@@SkinnyVampiress I actually thought it was 1989 also but then I just googled it to make sure. Yeah I got it for that bass "organ" sound in this song czcams.com/video/Ps2Jc28tQrw/video.html but it's used a lot actually and it is a preset.
@@bevolkisch4628 yeah I know, and for me especially - there is a lot of russian songs from 90s that used M1 sounds, and this organ preset too, I grew up on this kind of music... it always brings some memories :)
It's amazing! I have an M1 but a don't know (i can make this with it?). I love my M1 but now much better! what a wonderful synth! Thanks for show me this. The best for me the 102 super saw sound . Can you describe or show for me how do you make it?
maybe a little late... but... first, create very basic synth saw patch. I used saw + pulse osc octave below, but it doesn't matter. Then go to combi, and add your patch in all 8 slots, detune and pan.. should work.
@@SkinnyVampiress thanks :-)
Can you make more of these please ??
The first thing you played
The beautiful sound
Is that in the factory sounds?
These are amazing patches, did you ever sell or share the SYSEX files for these I would be happy to pay for these? many thanks
Well, I need to do more patches first because there are too few of them to release as a preset pack.. But it's so boring to navigate trough all menus all the time, so I wanted to make a programmer for M1. I mean hardware programmer with 60+ knobs for parameters and all that stuff.. it's not that hard but it will take a lot of time probably. So I always in the state of "yea I need to do it, but first I need to finish %something%..." and so on. So I don't really know. I want to do it and put a lot of patches for download though..
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cool, man! thank you! I am really grateful that you did it :)
you actually did a great thing! I can see 200% increase in views and some new people too! thank you a lot!
3:46 sounds like something in blackspace from omori
WOWWW. I've just bought an M1 and I love your patches. Would you consider selling them?
I don't think I have enough patches to sell them as a pack.. maybe in the future.
Como fazer pra baixar estes patches?
Would you ever create tutorials for your patches?
Recently I purchased a very scratchy used one... and I have to say that is awesome... even with a lack of buttons, and no programmed sounds (only the raw samples) the variety of sounds you can get with a little of patience and experimentation is ridiculous... I think I will clean and restore a little bit... It is very dirty under the keys and exhales a smoke/cigar smell
I would really recommend you to replace the battery and upload factory sysex… because there are also combi sounds, you can tweak them... and get outstanding results.. It's a little difficult to program everything from scratch for multi-layer combi
Yes . I'm trying to clean and restoring a little the caps and joystick piece... it's very damaged... . I changed battery. But in the process I figure out the dirty state of the interiors and started a deep clean...and recording the process. Now the plastic from the front panel recovered a piano black polish I'm very proud... hope It come back to life very soon😃
Time to reset my setup XP 50 on the shelf and Korg M1 back in bussiness.
cool, do it :)
As others have said there is a definite interest in purchasing these patches if you ever make them available. Even if you just have a few. For now could you share how you got the (spring in a tube)? sound fx in cthulhu summoning patch. Very much appreciated. Like the dark ambient stuff.
oh well... I need to make more patches and made them available then.. How I did that sound - I think there is a distortion in fisrt slot (maybe with lo-end boosted) and a long reverb in second fx slot...
@@SkinnyVampiress Thank you man. going to subscribe to you.
@@RF-go5lp cool, thanks!
I have 2 of them. One working perfectly after switch repair. the other one still give some troubles I can't fixe. the A button keeps blinking when I turn the synth on. so I can not chose a program with up and dows arrows. some one any Idea. all switches has been replaced.
well, you can check the entire front panel with a multimeter.. the switches are organized in some sort of a scan-matrix, you can check if it's working by probing the connector itself.. I don't remember if there are any diodes on a front panel pcb, if so - you should check them too.
@@SkinnyVampiress Thanks a lot I will try it
Amazing , are you making these available for purchase in any way?
I never thought about it... Maybe I will make a pack for downloading, so far it is nothing more than a few presets.
do it! I'll buy it
@@SkinnyVampiress I would buy these! I'm very interested in exploring the more experimental side of the M1. Do you have any tips for programming it?
@@technopriest8686 well.. I treat it like a VA with somewhat unique oscillators.. You could program it like any other synth, then swap the oscillator sample to something unusual and interesting.. FX section also adds a lot of character.
@@SkinnyVampiress would also buy!
can you make the supersaw polyphonic ?
not really, it uses all voices of the polyphony. you can make it duophonic without significant change in sound though... but in order to play chords you need to limit the voices. It will sound good anyway, but not that massive.
What did you do to fix the aftertouch? Mine doesnt work...
There is a small PCB on a keyboard... It has two trim pots, one controls gain and another - sensitivity. or treshold.... So one will control when aftertouch starts to act, and another - how easy it will reach 127. So you need to adjust them to your taste, use something like midiOX to monitor midi messages...
i had the korg m1 and it's a great synth, too bad it only has a low pass vcf filter, with the resonance and the ring modulator it would have been a bomb. Very, very good.
I agree... but if you want just a little resonance, you can use the exciter effect, it's different but anyway. and ringmod could be kind of faked with chorus 2 (or 1, I don't remember) where modulation can go to audio frequencies.. again, it is not exactly ring mod, but something like that. M1 lacks many features but it has a lot of samples to work with, don't forget osc pitch adsr and combis... with careful programming you can do a lot. It is a special synth, not for every day use, but it can generate very interesting textures.
@@SkinnyVampiress I agree, in fact it is not a synthesizer for conventional use ... unfortunately my M1 got ruined because it took water. Now I really like the Volca Fm, the microfreak e Roland jdxi. Congratulations for your compositions. 👍
@@riksentenza thanks!
Where are the tutorials on how to do this for anyone new to the M1? Thank you
I wonder what Effect you use for that Super Saw?
It is just all 16 voices playing the same note, you can combine up to 8 identical patches in 'combi' mode, and you have 2 waveforms/osc per patch, so 16 oscillators in total. I used a little bit of overdrive on top of it, but it is not really necessary..
@@SkinnyVampiress That's what I thought you used, just want to confirm. Thx
The M1 sttring pad is like it is almost alive. Sort of faeries and angels in there, inside the thing, then a chainsaw came out and ripped all the faeries and angels to shreds at the end, what ? Poor unicorns didn't stand a chance.
haha yeah :D thanks! actually M1 sounds really alive for a digital synth, I would totally agree with that
@@SkinnyVampiress I have a Korg Kross 2 and have been making customised patches for various songs for use in my live shows, it wasn't until digital sampling technology improved and became affordable without having to sell your car, no house, to buy a Fairlight that synthesizors started sounding more alive and organic in my opinion...czcams.com/video/k_4PQYwWhoM/video.html
Sorry if this comes across as completely and utterly noonish but how would I go about getting custom sound banks onto my M1 I’ve looked online and all I can see is digital/ computer screen representations
banks are stored in sysex files. usually. then all you need to do is to download a software that can send system exclusive messages, I used this: www.korgforums.com/forum/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=99291 or midi-OX but it is more complicated, you also need proper audio interface with midi-out, or midi interface. cheap usb-midi cables won't work sometimes, so you need normal interface. And then just follow the instruction, press receive on M1, send the sysex file from computer, it is very easy.
Skinny whats your opinion about his synth , from what I'm listening to ... it sounds unreal
It sounds great, but its engine is pretty simple, based on samples, so you can't do a lot..
Thanks Skinny ... I did find a demo Korg VST everyone , says it sounds very similar ...Ive been playing around with it today creating patches ,I guess the M1 came with different sounds cards , if you buy the Korg M1 Vst you get them all ....very interesting ...heres a link if anyone wants to try it out www.korguser.net/m1le/download/@@SkinnyVampiress
you can also try the Korg Legacy Collection, I don't have it, but people who have tried it, say it sounds pretty close. you can buy it or download it for free from the internet :D
ah, lol it is Korg legacy collecton. I didn't check the site from your link
@@SkinnyVampiress noprob Skinny. It let's you try it for ten days, it's just a stand alone vst so you don't need any other software
My M1 lost all of its sounds, and I don’t have the equipment to get anything loaded back onto it. Do you have any way of teaching how you created any of this?
First you need to change a 3v battery inside the M1, or it will not "remember" any of patches that you create.... then I would recommend to load factory .syx anyway, because programming everything from scratch is very long and not so easy to do with all menus and stuff.. You don't need any equipment to upload factory patches, just a sound card with midi out, or usb-midi cable, or any other midi interface... although some usb-midi cables are buggy and I won't recommend them unless you already have one. Or ask some friends maybe someone have midi on a computer... then just follow guides on the internet, it's actually very easy to do, and your M1 will be like new again.
@@SkinnyVampiress thank you so much! Finally accomplished a few nights ago!
Learning from your videos how to customize them now!
@@mattmorton9488 cool :) have fun with your M1 🎶
Чтож.... Садись за альбом уже....
да, надо бы позаписывать) только для серьезных треков нужен особый настрой, состояние мозгов..
can you get me to put it on the internet through the keyboard to export the information inside those MSC cards not those feeling I'm talking about those others you have so I can import it into my Korg M1 keyboard because I don't have the cards physically I wanted to import them. I'm not referring to feeling I'm talking about the other cards. please.
interesting patches, i only disliked those super distorted sounds, its too much forced.
A neighbour calls the cops, they kick the door in, burst in pistols raised, step away from the synth! You stand up, and one of your minions drapes a black satin cape with a red silk lining over your shoulders, as you shamble off, James Brown style........
FUCKING CZcams keeps giving me the same garbage over and over. I'm subscribed here, but I never heard about this till now. Im subscribed to 400+ channels, but I click reload, and its the same exact bullshit over and over. Fine. Fuck it. I'll hunt for good things myself.
Some people spend thousands of dollars to go to fucking Disneyland. I'd spend the same to drink home-brewed hooch with Skinny and cast Magic Missile at the Darkness. But, I'm poor, so "hello from Texas"
Yeah, youtube really does that..
It's all nice to hear, thanks man! :)