I don't dislike the knee press change from an authenticity perspective, i dislike it because i have to retrain several decades worth of muscle memory. That said, I'm sure I'll get used to it and that M.Bison will become my main once more.
Me too, since SF2 turbo! Some of my friends dont understand. I'll need to relearn almost everything, all my muscle memory and i play on a keyboard/hitbox. I dont like it, maybe i'll buy Aki and stick with Aki and Blanka.
I mained Bison in 4 and 5 so I am happy to see him return for 6. I will say, at first, I didn't initially like Knee Press being a motion move now however, I have definitely come around to the idea and look forward to playing him! And the fact that we got Psycho Crusher back as his base moveset, it's like Christmas for me.
Isn't akuma's rice ball an extended taunt that gives him new moves? So this would be a joke in reference to Akuma's extended taunt? If yes then bisons horse transformation would be supposedly like akuma's extra moves procedure.
@@djscrawny1565 I hope his outfit 3 is him wearing a fucked up looking horse head. Or go the other way with it like Motaro in Mortal Kombat. As long as he still wears his hat, horse head, horse body, whatever. And yes, technically he'd be wearing a hat on a hat/mask thing, but if it falls off during the match it would be so funny.
My theory is that there is 2 M.Bison and that there was an incomplete resurrection. There is the bison that exist in the psycho power and the leftover amnesiac bison “body” from sf5. My evidence for this is that in the summer games fest we see bison punch the big psycho power face the face shouts in bisons voice inconceivable. This is the real bison with the usual dictator personality and memories that lives in the psycho power and always tries to come back to life. This body is a different sort of bison. Not only does he have no memory of OG bison but he has a different personality too. The horse was dying and this bison body healed the horse with his power and is now loyal to bison. OG bison would never care about an animal like that. This feels almost like a new charecter. The main story arc that we have now is that this new bison has absorbed the old bison/psycho power and now there is two personalities warring for control in the body now, New bison that would heal dying animals and the old dictator and we see that in the end of match animation where New Bison struggles with his power and tells his arm/old dictator that he will dominate him in due time. An interesting thing about that animation is that when new bison regains control over the arm the purple psycho power turns blue as a symbol of new bisons control. Maybe new bison is trying to purge the psycho power and the old dictator personality and convert it all into the blue soul power that he can use? This would be a great end to bison story if this new bison who seems to have no interest in shadaloo keeps this new personality and the old dictator as we know him cease to exist purged into soul power.
Bison mains: I can’t imagine having to learn a new input for the knee press. Akuma mains: **having to learn new inputs for Demon Flip with each game** Get over it.
Psycho Power is described as yes being stronger than Soul Power but it is also much more destructive. However Bison takes it a step further by using through his entire body essentially he's Psycho Power made flesh. However the sheer power of it quite literally tears his body apart. This is why JP, Ed, and Falke don't suffer it's side effects mostly because Ed and Falke have much weaker versions of Bison's powers, while JP restricts Psycho Power purely into his left hand. JP is able to use the power without being ripped apart by it, while Ed and Falke aren't using the maximum potential of Psycho Power because they only have singular abilities.
This is probably the most excited i been for dlc in a super long time. Maining Gief and AKI right now. Both characters have their flaws in this shoto meta. As a M. Bison main in all versions of the SF series of games; not only do feel confident in Bisons base gameplay and win conditions, I also greatly feel he will be super strong as the anti-meta character. Regardless of whoever picks him up or hates on him going forward, Bison is going to shake the game up like a true villain should. Bison about to have FGC scared like Dragunov be having people shook in Tekken.
I love EX2 plus Charge Bison but I don't mind the quality of life with the motion to case the combo potential. The charges that tilt me are the down>up ones but I like the excuse to make some thing really strong
Bison's body did not disintegrate though. You see him still standing in an aura of light before the base collapsed. No body = Not dead. Also his run animation is amazing. Straight out of CvS, just terrifying to see coming towards you like that.
@@2gunzup07 Bison is literally that now and with easier inputs, instead of more charge inputs, It seems hard to imagine any of us Bison main's lost something with his main gameplan.
He’s gonna be tricky to play. I feel that I have USF4 syndrome, i.e., I won’t pick a character without an OD DP, even though random safe Umeshoryus are a thing of the past 😂. But as a mainly Charge Character, Dictator just might make me pick up my Victrix again. Leverless is quite unintuitive for Motion Characters like shotos.
22:04 shorts combos arent a bad thing. Backfist combo combos off of lights, meaning you can almost always have a mine attached for pressure and setups. Just like AKI. AKI combos are short when the opponent doesnt have poison status. Once the poison is applied, not only do her combos go burrr, her damage goes BLAM 💥 Im ready for the combo and pressure setup videos with Bison’s psycho mine. I already got my pen 🖊️ and 🗒️ ready to write down my frame data notes to be able to spam my moves around the mine explosion. 👊🏾 💥
Head stomp does loook slow. Hopefully not too slow. Being able to attempt headstomp but call it off by using devils reverse to get away may be nice. Probably not legit though.
04,29 Really tough call , open minded is my mentality . Shouldn't his Knee press be kinda butt (for an oppressive move in SF6) to counter act it being a qc motion. Very curious to see how he turns out.
There should be a Legacy Controls option for characters that have had their moves changed. Even if the frame data is balanced around the new motion input there should be the option to revert them back to a Charge move or mash. If Dee Jay players could change Sobat Kicks and Machine Gun Upper back to Charge moves then they would feel more comfortable and actually just have a worse/harder character. I might've grown accustomed to them being motions but my instinct is them being Charge. Giving Bison the option to have Knee Press would legitimately not make the character better, just make Bison players more comfortable.
it looks very goofy with the more realistic direction SF6 took compared to older titles, imo they should've used his SFV redesign for his nostalgia costume, the longer coat makes it look so much better.
@@merkyofaycemfx2944 all of that because of a shitty made modern control scheme. ridiculous. but we have to adapt to it unfortunately since it's a software problem.
I'm very happy i get my main back i just hope i like playing this version of him. Also can we stop this whole lie that charge characters cant be rushdown and aggressive? its not like you're constatnly holding charge if a cancelable attack hits theres usually enough time to charge and get your specials out. under a second is all you need to charge not 20 seconds or something ridiculous like that. charging is easy ..advanced charging is hard but you work your way up to that . oh and no for the thousandth time theres no Charge partitioning in any other SF game except for SF3.
@AnthonyBottari with normals in a game with parris good luck I'm a bum master rank with 2 characters nobody just throw out buttons on me and I suck I know dam well nobody below me can perfect parry you all day
@@AnthonyBottari yes not all the time but yes we just want pure rush down go play guile nobody wants to stand still for even 1 sec in sf6 its not how the game is ment to be driverush get in do work parry get in DO ANYTHING TO GET IN
Rose is the only one that can kill Bison and let's be honest what story when it comes to SF. Capcom doesn't even care about the SF story because it's all over the place. 👀
lol you guys are waaaaaaaaay to optimistic that all this will be eventually thrashed out in world tour lol. SF6 has no actual story,just lil catch ups with characters. In no way will all this come together eventually in world tour to resolve all of it . Ken and Bison are now hobos and that will be until SF7. Capcom seems to be incapable of coming up with a story for street fighter
I love Bison and I’m glad he’s back but I think they brought him back kind of too soon .. they probably had him scheduled to come out early… but I feel like JP could’ve been a better character.. I love his place in the story.. we know he’s doing some shit behind the scenes… but he’s a gentleman.. kind of like Kingpin from Marvel.. he’s neatly dressed but he’ll get blood on it to fuck you up and he’s not above taking someone’s life 😂 I just feel that too many people Bitched about JP despite him being the SF6 Boss 😂 he’s cheap and too strong but he’s the boss and he should be that way 😂 I remember Fighting M. Bison as a little kid.. he was waaaayy too fucken OP but I fought my little heart out and beat his ass 😂
It’s odd that they changed the knee press to motion while retaining crusher as a charge. I know some people have mentioned it’s so that is not an over lap on modern controls but it seems like they should have swapped it. Knee press is more commonly used for bison players. Also, crusher was not even a normal move in the SFV and did not retain the charge. It’s a weird choice in deed
For the Scissor Kicks Boomers that complain about Scissor Kicks is a Motion Input now i got a Solution.Just hold back and charge and do a hcf Input so you get the Feeling you did a charged Sicssor Kick, Problem solved and stfu. 💜
I don't dislike the knee press change from an authenticity perspective, i dislike it because i have to retrain several decades worth of muscle memory. That said, I'm sure I'll get used to it and that M.Bison will become my main once more.
Me too, since SF2 turbo! Some of my friends dont understand. I'll need to relearn almost everything, all my muscle memory and i play on a keyboard/hitbox. I dont like it, maybe i'll buy Aki and stick with Aki and Blanka.
@@LuttiApce Keyboard!? Oh hell no, yeah you’re in a whole different type of pain. Lol
That's like DeeJay he's got alot of quater circle special moves and supers, was hard to get use to him when game first came out. Easy peezy now. lol
It's because of modern controls, it limits the number of charge attacks to two. Absolutely stupid.
No you won't.
I mained Bison in 4 and 5 so I am happy to see him return for 6. I will say, at first, I didn't initially like Knee Press being a motion move now however, I have definitely come around to the idea and look forward to playing him! And the fact that we got Psycho Crusher back as his base moveset, it's like Christmas for me.
Yeah and it does mean that this new bison enthuses a more aggressive playstyle
The horse is actually Necalli in disguise. He upgraded from sheep to Horse......... 😂
🤯
Lol from Devour to Nibble
they really REALLY need to retcon SFV's story. lol
@@duckhive bring back dem shadowloo boyz il take Rog and Sagat, intergrate my man Dudley into the story too
@@Eternal_Champion The only thing Necalli was devouring is L's
I was reading the chat and a person going by the intriguing tag guyheavengym said 'bison can eat a riceball and transform into the horse' lol
Is this during taunt animation like Akuma? Or supposedly like that?
@@djscrawny1565 I think they were referring to Akuma's taunt
@@djscrawny1565neither, it was a joke
Isn't akuma's rice ball an extended taunt that gives him new moves? So this would be a joke in reference to Akuma's extended taunt? If yes then bisons horse transformation would be supposedly like akuma's extra moves procedure.
@@djscrawny1565 I hope his outfit 3 is him wearing a fucked up looking horse head. Or go the other way with it like Motaro in Mortal Kombat. As long as he still wears his hat, horse head, horse body, whatever. And yes, technically he'd be wearing a hat on a hat/mask thing, but if it falls off during the match it would be so funny.
i agree with Vesper we literally saw him disintegrate and Capcom trying tell us we didnt see him die 🤣. idc too much just glad he's back
My theory is that there is 2 M.Bison and that there was an incomplete resurrection. There is the bison that exist in the psycho power and the leftover amnesiac bison “body” from sf5. My evidence for this is that in the summer games fest we see bison punch the big psycho power face the face shouts in bisons voice inconceivable. This is the real bison with the usual dictator personality and memories that lives in the psycho power and always tries to come back to life. This body is a different sort of bison. Not only does he have no memory of OG bison but he has a different personality too. The horse was dying and this bison body healed the horse with his power and is now loyal to bison. OG bison would never care about an animal like that. This feels almost like a new charecter.
The main story arc that we have now is that this new bison has absorbed the old bison/psycho power and now there is two personalities warring for control in the body now, New bison that would heal dying animals and the old dictator and we see that in the end of match animation where New Bison struggles with his power and tells his arm/old dictator that he will dominate him in due time. An interesting thing about that animation is that when new bison regains control over the arm the purple psycho power turns blue as a symbol of new bisons control. Maybe new bison is trying to purge the psycho power and the old dictator personality and convert it all into the blue soul power that he can use? This would be a great end to bison story if this new bison who seems to have no interest in shadaloo keeps this new personality and the old dictator as we know him cease to exist purged into soul power.
I love this theory.
I think you've nailed it.
M bison with the main rule of: Always plus
It's great when Logan-sama highlights these moments:
"THAT'S plus.... THAT'S plus.... and THAT'S plus...." lol
Mir cam? Instant like
SF6 needs a traditional story mode!!
That’s World Tour
Will Bison have beef with JP? We'll have to see
Pretty sure Bison has beef with Japan after Ryu killed him...
(jk)
@@malcovich_gamesbro when he sad JP, he did not mea Japan, he meat the character JP, who has the mysterious psycho power as well.
Bison mains: I can’t imagine having to learn a new input for the knee press.
Akuma mains: **having to learn new inputs for Demon Flip with each game** Get over it.
It went from a tiger knee motion to a dp motion and now a hcf/qcf. SF8 Akuma with a pretzel motion demon flip will regenerate 50% of your health
@@Adan-ke4sx Don’t forget the back dp motion in Marvel 3.
Bisons hands were always blue with power since sf2 all his hand attacks had blue flames
Terry is here to check up on his boy Ken.
(I don't know why Mai came with him)
Mai came since she couldn’t get in smash back in 2019😂
Psycho Power is described as yes being stronger than Soul Power but it is also much more destructive. However Bison takes it a step further by using through his entire body essentially he's Psycho Power made flesh. However the sheer power of it quite literally tears his body apart. This is why JP, Ed, and Falke don't suffer it's side effects mostly because Ed and Falke have much weaker versions of Bison's powers, while JP restricts Psycho Power purely into his left hand. JP is able to use the power without being ripped apart by it, while Ed and Falke aren't using the maximum potential of Psycho Power because they only have singular abilities.
This is probably the most excited i been for dlc in a super long time. Maining Gief and AKI right now. Both characters have their flaws in this shoto meta. As a M. Bison main in all versions of the SF series of games; not only do feel confident in Bisons base gameplay and win conditions, I also greatly feel he will be super strong as the anti-meta character. Regardless of whoever picks him up or hates on him going forward, Bison is going to shake the game up like a true villain should. Bison about to have FGC scared like Dragunov be having people shook in Tekken.
Now I'm picturing a Good, the Bad, and the Ugly style standoff between Ed, AKI, and JP around an unconscious Bison.
I’m not surprised. Ryu is no murderer. He probably just “inoculated” Bison with his light Hado energy crap
I think old school bison mains would prefer scissor kick to a charge move but the light one plus on block.
Played bison in sf4 and 5. Idk why they changed scissor kick to motion.
Modern controls most likely being the culprit.
I love EX2 plus Charge Bison but I don't mind the quality of life with the motion to case the combo potential. The charges that tilt me are the down>up ones but I like the excuse to make some thing really strong
The Desk video for M. Bison will be sick! I'm guessing now he'll have double Psycho Mine set-ups at least!
Mir on camera! How you doing buddy?
The weakness in level 2 in level 1, if you look the replays is make not demages
Can Bison regenerate health by eating his horse?
I would'nt mind a SF6 Anime so we can get some good lore and cement some of these things, never really feel that well done.
Just look at that tasteful background
Bison's body did not disintegrate though. You see him still standing in an aura of light before the base collapsed. No body = Not dead.
Also his run animation is amazing. Straight out of CvS, just terrifying to see coming towards you like that.
U2 used to be a QCF motion in Super, then it changed to B+F charge in AE.
but my knee press nightmare is now a circle motion too :(
@aldofer8832 you Mad? You want some kind of advantage lil man
@@2gunzup07 you're arguing a point nobody is trying to make. if anything a motion input makes piloting Bison *easier*
@merkyofaycemfx2944 I want a easier more oppressive bison pure rush down and aggression
@@2gunzup07 Bison is literally that now and with easier inputs, instead of more charge inputs, It seems hard to imagine any of us Bison main's lost something with his main gameplan.
He’s gonna be tricky to play. I feel that I have USF4 syndrome, i.e., I won’t pick a character without an OD DP, even though random safe Umeshoryus are a thing of the past 😂.
But as a mainly Charge Character, Dictator just might make me pick up my Victrix again. Leverless is quite unintuitive for Motion Characters like shotos.
I rather have a charge scissors with -3 on block than motion and punishable!
Right now his short version is punishable😔
In a game with parry being plus means nothing
@@2gunzup07 you are wrong, with burnout -3 becomes +1 on block
It definitely means chip damage and pressure.
I have no choice but to main bison no matter what.
He's my main until Hakan or Hugo drop.
@@bobby45825 somehow Hakan is fitting for George Costanza lol
@@lancecryor [In George's voice] "WHAT'S WRONG WITH OILING UP JERRY?!"
The story is a missed opportunity to open up an alternate reality and bring out gogentsu
22:04 shorts combos arent a bad thing. Backfist combo combos off of lights, meaning you can almost always have a mine attached for pressure and setups. Just like AKI. AKI combos are short when the opponent doesnt have poison status. Once the poison is applied, not only do her combos go burrr, her damage goes BLAM 💥 Im ready for the combo and pressure setup videos with Bison’s psycho mine. I already got my pen 🖊️ and 🗒️ ready to write down my frame data notes to be able to spam my moves around the mine explosion. 👊🏾 💥
4:20
my brother legit stopped playing SF, after he found out Vega wasnt a charge character anymore.
He wasn't completely a charge character in SF5 either.
and that's totally understandable
@@tyrantla7120 he might be talking about claw, it's so confusing this name stuff
Lol true
@@tyrantla7120 yeah my bad. I'm talking about Claw 😂
Head stomp does loook slow. Hopefully not too slow. Being able to attempt headstomp but call it off by using devils reverse to get away may be nice. Probably not legit though.
Knee press is sweet spot friendly, correct?
04,29 Really tough call , open minded is my mentality . Shouldn't his Knee press be kinda butt (for an oppressive move in SF6) to counter act it being a qc motion. Very curious to see how he turns out.
Poor Ed 😢 he’s gonna get left behind wit all the other “Vesper Main”s 😂
There should be a Legacy Controls option for characters that have had their moves changed. Even if the frame data is balanced around the new motion input there should be the option to revert them back to a Charge move or mash.
If Dee Jay players could change Sobat Kicks and Machine Gun Upper back to Charge moves then they would feel more comfortable and actually just have a worse/harder character. I might've grown accustomed to them being motions but my instinct is them being Charge.
Giving Bison the option to have Knee Press would legitimately not make the character better, just make Bison players more comfortable.
Nah.
14:20 What move comes out with double quarter pounder?
Is anyone going to address the squid on the wall?? Wtf is that?
Just give us 2 options to charge⬅️➡️👊 or to do ⬇️↘️➡️ 👊
Just make your own fighting game 🙄
@@oOYourdadOo 😑
Sajam said he thinks the OG Bison costume doesn't look right.. Do you guys agree? I think he looks good. Very "Resi 2"
it looks very goofy with the more realistic direction SF6 took compared to older titles, imo they should've used his SFV redesign for his nostalgia costume, the longer coat makes it look so much better.
As a Bipson player since Sf4, i hate the change to knee press.
yeah. It's like if we changed Ryu's DP into a flash kick motion. Makes no sense
@@merkyofaycemfx2944 all of that because of a shitty made modern control scheme. ridiculous. but we have to adapt to it unfortunately since it's a software problem.
Isn't it easier? You don't have to time the charge motion now?
@@JyGproductions it's over 20 years of muscle memory man
@merkyofaycemfx2944 true, but I'd say you will adapt with in a week. The problem will arise if you switch back and forth between games.
Strengths = 40 seconds, Weaknesses = 7.20 seconds. Uh oh, Shaggy
I'm very happy i get my main back i just hope i like playing this version of him. Also can we stop this whole lie that charge characters cant be rushdown and aggressive? its not like you're constatnly holding charge if a cancelable attack hits theres usually enough time to charge and get your specials out. under a second is all you need to charge not 20 seconds or something ridiculous like that. charging is easy ..advanced charging is hard but you work your way up to that . oh and no for the thousandth time theres no Charge partitioning in any other SF game except for SF3.
You have to stand still sf6 wants you constantly moving around only guile works as a charge only character
@@2gunzup07 hahhaha dude you definitely don't need to stand still as a charge character. You can be quite aggressive actually
@AnthonyBottari with normals in a game with parris good luck I'm a bum master rank with 2 characters nobody just throw out buttons on me and I suck I know dam well nobody below me can perfect parry you all day
@@2gunzup07 dude if a cancelable normal lands that's enough time to charge!
@@AnthonyBottari yes not all the time but yes we just want pure rush down go play guile nobody wants to stand still for even 1 sec in sf6 its not how the game is ment to be driverush get in do work parry get in DO ANYTHING TO GET IN
Rose is the only one that can kill Bison and let's be honest what story when it comes to SF. Capcom doesn't even care about the SF story because it's all over the place. 👀
lol you guys are waaaaaaaaay to optimistic that all this will be eventually thrashed out in world tour lol. SF6 has no actual story,just lil catch ups with characters. In no way will all this come together eventually in world tour to resolve all of it . Ken and Bison are now hobos and that will be until SF7. Capcom seems to be incapable of coming up with a story for street fighter
I love Bison and I’m glad he’s back but I think they brought him back kind of too soon .. they probably had him scheduled to come out early… but I feel like JP could’ve been a better character.. I love his place in the story.. we know he’s doing some shit behind the scenes… but he’s a gentleman.. kind of like Kingpin from Marvel.. he’s neatly dressed but he’ll get blood on it to fuck you up and he’s not above taking someone’s life 😂 I just feel that too many people Bitched about JP despite him being the SF6 Boss 😂 he’s cheap and too strong but he’s the boss and he should be that way 😂 I remember Fighting M. Bison as a little kid.. he was waaaayy too fucken OP but I fought my little heart out and beat his ass 😂
The drip feed DLC schedule was probably (and rightfully so) getting shit tons of push back for how poorly Capcom is managing this.
Like if you like KEN.
It’s odd that they changed the knee press to motion while retaining crusher as a charge. I know some people have mentioned it’s so that is not an over lap on modern controls but it seems like they should have swapped it. Knee press is more commonly used for bison players. Also, crusher was not even a normal move in the SFV and did not retain the charge. It’s a weird choice in deed
He has a sex change and calls himself Rose
Honda players will have to pay money to get real buffs. M Honda.
I've dropped Honda. Capcom made it clear it's not a priority to make him good and I'm ok with that now, since I'll have bison.
I hate charge characters. Glad they made him a hybrid.
I stoped caring about authenticity when they butchered Vega (claw) in SFV.
Easily the best version of Vega in any SF. Vega was the only good thing about SFV to me.
Og needs to adapt
Charge players its lame @ other players who want us to have to charge to slow us down i use alot of Charge characters i dont miss charges
nerf bison, clearly the strongest shoto
For the Scissor Kicks Boomers that complain about Scissor Kicks is a Motion Input now i got a Solution.Just hold back and charge and do a hcf Input so you get the Feeling you did a charged Sicssor Kick, Problem solved and stfu. 💜
talk about talking down on people. awesome behavior
@@aldofer8832 Hey im just here to help the charge Scissor Kick Fanbase
Fun fact Bison dedicated his life to learning gravity magic just so he could continue riding his horse
how did you know about his story before he even came out? I'm so sick of this content vip rope from capcom so unfair
Capcom should make this series a storyless dream match and be done with it. Seriously! 🙄
akuka?
Akumi