Barn Find 41 Plymouth! E:2 Clean Up; WILL IT START?
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- In this episode, Andy and Dan clean up the 1941 Plymouth and try to get the motor cranking for the first time in 50 years!
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Wow! The body of the car is in better shape than i thought it would be. That interior is pretty cool looking. It's like looking into a time capsule. 👍
Robert Cushing yea man the body is really solid other than the trunk it seems. The interior is crazy. I’m going to post a video just going over the interior. Lots to see in there.
Hey Guys. I was surprised when you got things freed up, but when it fired, I was blown away. Good job guys. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so Much! We were just as shocked. I have a v8 in the corner of the shop as back up lol. But thankfully it seems we won’t need it
Trunk time lapse was so satisfying to watch!
Yea it was a mess in there but it’s getting better!
NICE! I own a 40 Plymouth P-10 4-door so was excited and right there with you guys when she turned! Congrats! Great car the 41' is. You have a gem!!
That four door sounds incredible! Thanks for watching!
When pulling or bump starting a car always use 2nd. or 3rd. gear. Never 1st.or reverse. It's a gear ratio leverage thing. Now for serious scraping, scrubbing and scrubbing some more. Hope you have a new head gasket. You have the right juice for the unsticking job. I use Marvelous Mysterious Oil and Diesel fuel 50-50 mix. A small wire wheel on a drill combined with New Words for busted knuckles will get the job done. Have fun gents I love that '41 Ply.
Thanks for the tips! Busted Knuckles are a must for these projects. Thank you for following the project as well.
Love the content! It’s such a cool old car
Thanks buddy!
Just watched first 4 episodes on Prime.
You guys rock,love the show,hanging out for more.😎
Thank you so much! We are working on several projects right now including sourcing some major components of for the Plymouth, so stay tuned. We appreciate the support!
Only place left where a whitewall snowtire still existed
Might want to watch Mortske he's the master of stuck motors!
Thank you! We got her broke loose and she’s running great now. Videos on that coming soon
Great to watch this old beauty saved. I have read many stories that said that the 1941 Plymouth came very close to knocking off Ford for the number two spot.
Thanks for watching! We are shooting more episodes now, and will have note details coming.
I heard that about the Plymouth as well!
@@MaffettMotorwerks Doing a similar thing with a 1941 Plymouth myself.....in diecast 1.18 scale. I bought it for my son years ago but he broke it. It was pretty much screwed so I gave it the now in fashion patina look. If I can find my way around the CZcams jargon I will upload the pics for you to see. Meantime looking forward to your next post on that sleeping beauty.
We would love to see. Message us at maffettmotorwerks@gmail.com
@@MaffettMotorwerks I gave it a red hot go mate but it kept coming up as incorrect address. I hate computers LOL. I would love to share the pics. Do you have an email address? That would work.....and I am not a scammer. My personal email is markholman5@bigpond.com just to show you I am legit. Cheers Mark.
Email sent! Thanks again
Exact same issue with my 1950 Dodge Power Wagon. Use a plastic hammer to tap valves closed as you crank it. I got it running enough to move around on it’s own. I did an old school valve job the following winter
We called a few flat head guys we know in California and they pretty much said the same thing.
im from california and that plymouth is in good shape and compleat for the most part. if you paid under 2 k you did well
Thanks! The car is really solid only a few spots that need to be patched.
What a beautiful car hope it doesn't get rodded
Depends on your version of “Rodded” lol
For one guy working and the other thinking, your doing fair. As those valves open doose the body of that valve with pb blaster or sea foam or something besides water displacement forty in the blue can as it can make harder. then when cam has gone past point that has opened it tap the stuck valve back down ... while it it open use some croakes cloth and clean as much rust off without reshaping the valve, its pretty tuff so scuff it good. I would worrall it over once dried out with clean plugs back in head and reuse the copper head gasket. if necessary with hot wired tow to start a ways down the road. don't have to turn fast as everything is moving... like second gear and let it warm the engine a bit. as long as its being towed and has gas in the carb hole, it will fire but not enough to run till warmed some. You could safely bore those old engines ,120 over without getting into water jackets so tow hell out of it! One in tow rig and one in car being started and one on fender riding with bottle of gasoline to get it going. within ten to fifteen minutes it will fire and keep going as long as it is being towed till you can push clutch in and it stays running with someone adding gas. You will be surprised at the torture it will take. Long as head is off keep tapping the valves till they close on their own. 5 out of 6 will work to get going and the other will pick up. When push comes to shove the sixty horse engine will run but need to be built and that car is too far gone to restore. A small v six engine would take its place with a automatic trans. I might be 70 but pulled wrenches for over fifty years as I started for dad before I was old enough to argue.
We are posting a new video soon that will answer some of this. But the motor is definitely solid. If we decide to replace the motor we will jump straight to a v8 or some sort. But we want to try to keep it mostly period context and keep this awesome patina. Anything modern we do we will try to hide as best we can for now. Thanks for following along! We appreciate it!
That Car is awesome I love these old Mopars
Thanks! We love them too.
Pull the dust cover off the Bell housing and lever the flywheel back and forth.
I love this cars
A '41 Plymouth that missed being turned into a Powell truck!
I have seen those! They are too cool.
When I was born (1956) this was the car that took me home the FIRST ride of my life (I don't remember this)! The car was a 1941 Plymouth coupe that started (at -20) in March, 1956!
That is so cool! Thanks for sharing and thank you for watching
On my 40 you had to take the fan off before the radiator would pull. I bought a snap on fanblade wrench off ebay to do this
Real cool cool guys!
Nice find! Looks good!
I grew up in a 1942 Dodge that looked almost exactly like that. 1943 to 1950 leaning over the driver's seat, watching Dad drive.
Thanks for watching! We love hearing stories like this.
Looking good! Keep the videos coming!
Thanks David! We will for sure shooting more every week and will try to have at least one video every week for y’all. Thank you for following along. Be sure to subscribe to get notified when we release new content.
Pull the plugs,little marvel oil..then give it try!
That’s right! We flooded it with marvel oil and it sat in there for a few days stuff is incredible.
What a great car omg I want that Plymouth so bad!
Thanks! We love this thing, We are having the manifold redone now and will be shooting more video once we get that back. Have tons of content on the way. Covid definitely slowed down getting the specialty parts to get this back on the road.
Great ride!
Hey from Santa Monica California
Hey! Thanks for following! Be sure to sub so you get our updates as we progress.
Suggest remove manifolds. Open valve side covers. Release valve spring keepers. Remove springs and lift valves out. Get some lapping compound and a hand lapping tool. Lap all valves until they seal again. Check valve seat seal-ability by reassembling valve train. Turn engine to TDC for each individual cylinder. Pour a little raw kerosene around the valve seat area. Get a flashlight and look up in thru valve ports on bottom side. Look for traces of kerosene getting down past valve seats. Continue back with lapping again until valve seats will not allow kerosene past. Then you know you have good valve sealing. While valve train is out suggest removing all sludge in the area. Highly recommend a used, vintage scissor type valve spring compressor tool for this job. Resist the temptation to use a power tool to turn valves to lap. Twist by hand only. Be sure the valve spring retainers do not drop down in oil pan when removing. Then set valve/tappet clearance when engine is fully warmed up to operating temps. While manifolds are off get a carb kit and rebuild it. Easily done. Mechanical fuel pump is likely your next problem. Recommend a 6V electric be installed. See how all this work compounds? Lol. Good luck. I’ll be following along.
Good suggestion all great points made for sure. Thanks for following along with us!
The Plymouth is an oldie but goodie! I saw the green Jeep on 896 N. I'm a Wrangler fan, several repair vids. 👍
Yes I saw your window sticker this morning. And thought I’d look you up. Great channel.
Yea man we got the Plymouth undergoing some big changes from being in the coop for 50 years 👍🏼. You’ll have to come by and check it out one day.
@@MaffettMotorwerks 👍
Might have to give that Myrstery oil a few mor days. Have patiencts
My dad always brought out old paint with was scrubbier and comet, I worked good
Nathan Lovern I’ve heard that a good bit. I had some luck with clr and elbow grease
A soft buffer pad wet with comet might work better
Kool man gotter movin.
20:26, look in the trunk for the hand crank...
That's what the spiral cut is for...
26:28, the exhaust manifold is cracked...
Sadly we didn’t find the hand crank. Lots of other things but not the crank.
Sadly yes the manifold is very very cracked in 3 places
Hope y'all learn a lot on this 41. Good luck!
Thanks buddy! We have already learned a great deal.
Super cool car,
Just subscribed...
Let me know what you find next, and or pass on...
Thanks very much! We have a few projects on the books. Another field find coming up too
Use some linseed oil on the car it will clean it up nice and protect the steel it works great
I have seen that a lot lately I will definitely give that a shot later.
@@MaffettMotorwerks I imagine it will also make it a dust magnet.
@@Rebel9668 I take it you have never used linseed oil before because if you did you would know it does not become a "Dust Magnet" LOL!! Many guys use linseed oil on antique cars if it became a dust magnet we would not use it
@@79tazman Actually I have indeed used linseed oil as a finish, but for wood. Everything from the stock of an 1853 British Enfield to a bare wood floor and chimney mantels and so I have experience with how much dust it collects, whereas wax actually repels dust.. Such is the case with my 1933 Philco Highboy. I gave it a finish with Briwax 4 years ago and haven't hardly ever had to dust it. Johnson wax works just as well as I used it to wax my circa 1888 bedframe. I can honestly say that while a linseed oil finish looks nice it most certainly does make everything I ever used it on a dust magnet.
Great job guy’s. I’m late to your videos but good viewing.
Starting at 21:52 Are you guys hooking a 12V battery charger at high amp setting up to the old 6V battery and slamming 12V though it to the starter? It sounds like 12V on that starter motor when it's turning the engine over. Highly recommend safety glasses, especially when leaning over that battery....Battery may go boom!
Hey Keith, I know it does appear that way in the clip. What's actually happening is that old 6 volt battery is just sitting in the tray, With only one terminal hooked up. I'm using a pair of jumper cables to a battery sitting on the floor. Good looking out as you are correct about the boom potential the other way.
andy sheppard You are running 12V through the starter though, correct? The battery on the floor you describe is 12V?
It is indeed 12v
Best looking car ever made, looking for one to start my project. Ive collected ford SHO and aluminum Taurus engines for years im gonna drop a Aluminum DOHC out of a running driving 1999 ford Taurus i purchased with 19,000 original miles in 2010 from my buddy who passed wife. My girlfriend was in a horrible crash in my Cadillac DTS was rear-ended at 90 mph she didn't like the new small car i bought her she drove the big Taurus till around 2019 when she retired because the crash affected her and got max disability because she was educated and a hospital administrator. she drive very little but drives a large Suv. Taurus was well kept synthetic oil changes every 3k engine is cherry and one im gonna use. Drop a cast iron 2000 Taurus engine in and give to first person that needs one. no mods turbo or anything crazy. Ive heard a RWD Lincoln trans will work make it RWD. 41 Plymouth coupe ill find out west made destroy a restored one or find something that needs work.small chop and thats it. I'll purchase some coker tires steal wheels decent interior ac gotta work power windows. leather.what some custom headers keep the cats want it to run like a 99 Taurus want exhaust sticking out in front of doors. Im not building it the man that built my 1969 Peterbilt from scratch. I believe he can handle it. hope to be on your show with it or send it to you and you guys make a video. I think its gonna turn out cool definitely different ford DOHC in a 41 mild chop nice interior.wel'll see? Thanks for showing me your 41 beautiful machine.
That is a lot! But it sounds like that will be an awesome project when she is done! Thanks for sharing. Let us know when it’s all finished up
@@MaffettMotorwerks yeah a lot but according to retired engineers it's possible. Maybe I'll go easy and use some 70s moper power idk but I'm 56 and gotta do something or start selling stuff. I'm not a car collector I'm a engine and parts collector. I got one complete classic a 65 mustang 6 cylinder nice car restored 33 yrs ago and put away id have to dig out of back of warehouse but it's just a mustang. I had to work sold tires for 35 yrs. just something about a 41 Plymouth trips my trigger. You guys video got me going again
Just for giggles and grins, could a person use a spare (?) household water heater and an external pump to run hot water through the engine via the heater hoses? Would bringing the block up to temp for a while be beneficial?
Great point. I think any time you can get a block to operating temp it aides the inner workings of the motor itself. But we ended up flushing the cooling system any way and these heat up pretty quick once they start firing.
Nice little coupe...
Thanks! It is cleaning up really nice.
Wow that Horn carriage/core support is awesome 👏. Hope you saved the radiator ? Guess I’ll watch n see !! ✌️😎
Just subscribe! Keep up the hard work..channel will grow! Excellent content.
Thank you so much for watching with us. We are working on the next few episodes now.
You picked a car for your first videos that basically my big sister my grandma traded a German shepherd puppy for it in 62 she gave it to my mom for her wedding present in 66 and it is sitting in front of my house under a car cover hiding for zoning informer right now love the car ours has a fold up back seat to give it the business coupe advantage and a little less rust to say almost none so I'll be watching to see if you get her running see ya on the next one
That is great! You will have to share some pics once you get the project going.
The Flag is improperly displayed. The stars should be in the upper left position when displayed on the wall.
They're building a car not doing a military parade......
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Makes no difference, it's called proper flag etiquite and RESPECT for OUR Flag!!!!!
You, are why we are losing the battle against socialism and communism.
Hi guys. I think you are doing OK with the car and I am looking forward to the next part. Just one bad thing say, and I hope I sound like your dad when I say this.....TURN THAT GOD DAM MUSIC DOWN.
Thanks for watching! And yes we have learned that the compression on CZcams is a bit different than the audio coming rom the editing bay speakers. Thank you for the feed back and thank you for watching
That rust is from all that mouse and rat shitt the acidification is
strong and over that amount of time sitting. If it were not for the mice that trunk area was in good
shape.
I agree! Damn mice ruined that for us for sure. It we will fix it.
Jay Leno has one of these and coldwarmotors did a will it run with a 41 Plymouth
Nice! I’ll check that out
Next time around or as they say himd sight is always 20/20. Removed rat poo and nests before washing so it doesn't soak up any water leaking into the vehicle. Then having wet rat poo and nest materials. It only makes a bad experience even worse and smellier Lol! 😂 Sweet car though for a barn find!
That is a great point, we moved as much as we could with the dust pan first. But those critters really locked in there. Thanks for the comment!
Please pull the oil pan and clean it before you switch to a modern detergent oil- otherwise it’ll kick up all that sludge and clog the oil galleries, burning out bearings. Also, when you put a new water pump on (new ones are like $50), be certain to pull and clean/replace the water distribution tube behind the pump. Some were steel, others brass. I’d recommend a new aluminium radiator too, they’re about $240 if you’ve the money. I haven’t had any luck with the old brass ones, they just clog up and run hot. Beyond that, I’ve almost always had to pull the head and play whack-a-mole with the valves and clean valve seats. Pull the valve covers too, critters like to get in there; you’ll need to pull the passenger tire and there’s an access panel on the inner fender. The old 201’s were an ok motor, but a newer 230 will swap right in and make more power. Look up Andy Bernbaum auto parts, they have everything. Best of luck guys! She looks awesome!
Absolutely. The pan will be pulled and cleaned out before we run any modern oil through it that is for sure.
Subbed and belled.
Thank you so much! New episodes will be out this week.
Comon man every tool has an adjust8ble wrench.
Box. Opps
Watch how you use that word redneck. I live down here in Gladys Va. In the south. Now
i seen the hand crank in the trunk
Negative, There is no hand crank in the trunk. There is a jack and handle for the jack but not the crank for the hand crank motor.
Looked like a big crack in front port of of exhaust manifold.
Yes it is cracked in several places. We are going to address that in later videos. Thanks for watching!
What are you guys even doing we can't see anything going on half the time someone needs to get the cam in there to show what's going on because we can't see anything through the grille
I would touch any that shitt in the trunk with out gloves all the way up to my elbows and wearing a mask.
Yea we were wrapped up like we were scrubbing someone with corona virus haha
Don't touch the paint, and whatever you do, *DON'T CLEAR IT*
I wouldn’t dare haha. I’m gonna clean up the surface rust and that’s about it.
@@MaffettMotorwerks
No such thing as shiny rust...
Couldn’t agree more buddy.
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Take a look at;
Classic Rides Arizona here on CZcams, he used a scrunge and comet...
Interesting the end of the crank is set up for hand crank - was there an access hole to get a crank in there?
That was interesting to us as well. There was a very small hole in the grill to reach in with. But without the proper tool it would have been impossible to crank. We 100% tries to find one on eBay just to try it haha. Good eye Chris!
I think 41 was the last year they had the crank start to start the car if the battery was dead but they had a starter on it too there is a cover for the hole in the middle bar going down the center of the grille
@@MaffettMotorwerks There should be a crank hole cover in the middle bar about the third horizontal bar from the bottom you remove that cover and the crank will fit in there if you had to use it but they had starters on them in 41
@@MaffettMotorwerks Be careful not to use 12 volts on the 6 volt system you can fry the gauges and everything using 12 volts
@@79tazman My dad had a '63 Austin when I was a teen and it had a crank start for when the battery was dead - came in handy when you were tuning the engine and wanted it at top dead centre too.
Pls ck points & condeser
cut the radiator hose $10. Cut the horn wires, another repair that wasn't needed n now your wire is patched. 1 out of 10, I give you a 3, Its a nice car
ste cra the hoses were very much corroded and dry rotted. Already leaking with no pressure in them. The wires are also so brittle they were breaking under our hands. We are rewriting the entire vehicle so we don’t mind taking the time to put new wires in, and we won’t be running any patch wires. Thanks for watching!
Annoying part of your video was when you guys were towing the 41 Plymouth up and down the driveway trying to break the engine free in case it was seized, your dam music couldn't let us hear if the engine in the 41 was doing anything, did it try to fire, did it do anything, couldn't tell because of that dam head banger music! I doubt you would hear that on a Jay Leno video if he was trying to do the same thing!
First and foremost, Thank you for subscribing and for watching our videos. We really appreciate you taking the time to do so.
As for the engine sound the motor was 100% not going to try to fire during the drag portion here, so we didn’t think it would be necessary to have the noise of the tires dragging the street, so we put some music to it and looking back I know the music levels may be a little loud, it may not be your choice for music but we enjoyed it. Also, while we love Jay Leno’s videos, we are not trying to emulate his style or theme. We just like to have fun and hope people enjoy watching what we are working on.
@@MaffettMotorwerks Sorry, if I was a little harsh with you on my comment. I really enjoy watching these kind of videos, and whether or not the music is my style or not, that is not the problem. The problem is it really is too loud and many people who post videos do the same thing, and ruin their good video. If you feel you need to play any music, just lower the volume level! I have watched thousands of videos and many of them were ruined because of the music, and that's when people stop watching the video. You have an excellent topic in these videos, and I hope to watch many more of them as long as the music doesn't over power the video! Keep up the good work on the 41 Plymouth!
#coldwarmotors
Is the car still on the 6 volt system?
For now yes. Plans to convert it soon
@@MaffettMotorwerks cool. I have a 41 Plymouth Business Coupe that belonged to my great grandmother. It has 38K original miles and was near mint when we pulled it out of her garage outside of Joplin Missouri. Cleaned out carb and fuel tank and it runs and drives. We decided to keep the original 6 volt system in there since it works so good still.
That is awesome!
Gloves and masks for racoon and rat poop...
Oh yea that’s for sure! We were wrapped up like we were prepping for the corona virus haha
I enjoy old cars but do not care for the noisy music.
michael macdonald thanks for watching everything with us, sorry you didn’t enjoy the music. We get it’s not for everyone. But we appreciate you giving it a watch any way. Thank you be safe and healthy!
HaHa