3 rail Hornby Dublo Duchess - will it ever run again?
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2023
- Join me as I investigate why this vintage 70-year-old Hornby Dublo 3 rail loco is not running.
I have fallen in love with these old diecast locos they have such a look on the layout, they are powerful and wear their age with a lovely patina.
Can I get this Duchess of Atholl, Princess Coronation Class loco running?
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Brilliant video. It’s really nice to see a beautiful old girl get here speed back.
I was watching this video with my 4 year old grandson, he’s said it just needed new coal.
Thank you for sharing
That wonderful, Thank you for sharing, made my day. Did you see the 'proper' live steam loco that I posted last weekend? Thanks again for watching
Great video! I have an old princess Elizabeth and price of wales that don’t run so I think I may have to have a go myself now! 👍
Thank you and yes give it a go amazing what a clean can do. Thanks for watching.
This was a fantastic video here dusty shelf collectibles, I have one of these Duchess of Atholl models myself but it is far from original the main big difference being that mine has been converted to 2 rail and as far as I know Duchess of Atholl was never a 2 rail model, in my opinion I would leave the livery as it is and not repaint it mainly because I imagine that as a collector you would like things to be authentic but at the end of the day it’s your model so it’s your decision, must say yours looks a lot smoother running on your dublo layout, whenever I run mine it has a lot of what is called nosing which is basically the front of the locomotive moving side to side when travelling on a straight section of track.
Thank you, appreciated, I actually really making enjoyed that one, it so nice when occasionally something goes right. That's a good point about collectors, I can see a lot more of the 3 rail being converted to to rail as the cost of Hornby's new diecast rises. Anyway thanks for watching.
I'm always in awe of folk who disassemble such small, delicate objects so hats off to you. There was something went pinging off in an 11 o'clock direction at 03:35 that never found its way back on again but it didn't seem to affect operation, short term at least!
As for repainting, I'd say it depends on the rarity of the engine (how many more pristine originals are out there?) and that I don't have a clue about. I am however a sucker for those restoration channels and so, selfishly, I'd love to see you do it!
I think it was the locking nut for the armature screw, I added that back in, off camera after I had stopped filming, but as you say what whatever it was its not effecting the performance - yet. I am worried that my skills will not do the body justice, these old locos are special because of their was scars but this one if very scared - so I don't know yet. Anyway thanks again for watching
@@dustyshelfcollectables It's not the locking nut - you mention that. It is more like a bushing of some sort that releases after you remove the spring. No biggie though and I'm still impressed that you took it on!
@@Robutube1 let me go back and take a look I am intrigued now...
I see it now on the video, no idea what it was and is not on the bench, maybe the lower friction bearing from the spindle, but isn't showing signs of missing the part while running. Very well spotted though!
I'm in awe he can do it randomly putting bits down here there and everywhere, I still need to lay every little bit out perfectly like an exploded diagram 😂
As long as you can get the fiddly bits back together again... fixing 3 rail locos is great fun, almost as easy as "round peg round hole, square peg square hole"
I started off with about as much experience as changing the odd plug fuse, now I fix up non runners off ebay for fun, have yet to dip my toe in the rapingint side though, that bit still scares me ✌️😂
I think you should sympathetically restore it. You mention lining the engine. But the Hornby Dublo Duchess in LMS red was not lined. If decaled as BR engine in LMS red it had minimal lining of yellow band round the boiler front end and yellow lining along the footplate. Only the BR green ones were fully lined. Makes the repainting much easier. They look beautiful when restored.
I didn't know that about the lining, thank you. I must say, the best thing about putting myself out there has been the amazing information share, I have learnt so much. Thank you for watching and taking the time to message me.
Unless there is serious damage do not repaint. I love the aged look when there are only a few chips and scrapes.
I didn't in the end, its still wearing its history! Anyway thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts,
I would love the body alone it looks old. For 70 years. It looks great. As for running lovely lovely.
I did leave it alone, It wears its life. Thanks for watching.
I've got one of these and a three rail Duchess of Montrose and they STILL run!
They are just so robust! thanks for watching.
I had a three-rail Duchess of Atholl second-hand in the late 1950s, It had been converted to two-rail and the driving wheel flanges had been ground down. It ran well, even with that ancient vertical commutator. My loco was still in LMS livery-numbers and tender initials, so I guess it was just pre- or on- nationalisation when made. I also had an N2 with the same motor and in LNER colours which must have been of the same date of manufacture. No idea what became of them!
I am sure, still going strong somewhere, built to last. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share.
I'd just colour match and touch up the scuffed areas with an artist's brush...if it was really battered then I'd consider a total overhaul cosmetically, but yours isn't bad for a 70 year old loco.
Goes like the clappers 😮!
I was genuinely surprised how sprightly it ran!
A bit of oil and these old girls jump back into life usually.
Much better design than the new Hornby models.
Mon from Monsville Railways
Absolutely!
I find that lighter fuel is great for getting oil and grime off parts.
I think I have been converted to collecting HD after watching your videos 😊
Lovely loco.
That's kind of you, thank you, I will give the lighter fuel a try.
Bit of lighter fluid works wonders ✌️
Weren't the nuts and screws to BA standard?
I have a Duchess of Athol with same problem. Going to give this a go. I plan eventually starting my own Dublo 3 rail channel as at the moment I only have 1 out of 4 locos working. I've decided that my chanel will not cosmetically restore any items other than general clean and make in running order as I think cosmetic restoration devalues the item.
I do agree, I prefer the locos to carry their history, I have only repainted the ones that really were scrap, I left this one alone. If you are looking a getting them running I have had good success with the re-magnetizer, They are quite expensive if you don't have many locos to do, but there are places around that do offer it as a service, other people have suggested replacing the magnets etc - all the best with the new channel!
Great video!!! Are the 3-rail tracks HO scale? I just bought a Jouef loco that someone converted to 3-rail and it runs fine on my Märklin M-tracks, so I wonder if I should look for some older running stock as well…
I am not sure if they are HO or OO as I think Hornby were debating at the time, I am sure someone on the comment will know. However would think they would be ok on the m- track, again someone will know for sure.
@@dustyshelfcollectables Thanks again for getting back. This video series gave me some inspiration for a Marklin M-track layout in my basement separate from my C-track layout, and will probably try to run both AC & DC locos on it...
I think she’d appreciate a bit of lubricant. Just giving the body a clean in warm soapy water would brighten it up. I’ve not yet restored the paint on any of mine and like you I think I prefer them that way. I’d only redo a really rough one (which this one clearly isn’t). Check out OO Bill, Oscar Paisley or Mr Snooze’s channels for great servicing tips. Looking forward to the next one !
Rob
PS, don’t forget to put back that armature locking nut! She’ll runs heaps smoother once it’s adjusted properly.
Thanks Robin, yes I put the nut on post post filming. I struggle as everything on camera is at arms length and so I can not see, usually I have a couple of pairs of glasses in and work very close. Thanks for the recommendation of the channels, they look very helpful and I am falling on the side of leaving well alone and just a clean up. Many thanks.
I would leave it as it is. 70 years old.
Yeh, i did, wearing its age and story! Thanks for watching.
Proud mica on the commutator?
I forget now I recorded a while back, I will take a look, thanks for tip.
Is it a zinc/Zamak body?
I think you are correct. Thanks for sharing.
Bit of tlc and some running in and most of them can be saved, enjoy fixing them but repainting scares me still, havnt got one that looks so bad that if i ruined it i wouldnt feel bad if that makes sense 😂
absolutely, I love the old train wearing their story so a repaint is always a last resort!
How can I convert an old Hornsby DC 3 rail to 3 rail AC marklin track?😢
I would be sure myself, I don't have much experience with Markin, but I am sure some one may see your post and help.
An excellent video but I think you should have issued a warning about dismantling the magnet and armature. You didn't let on that you had a re-magnetiser until you came to put it back together and I worry that a novice would not realise the importance of re-magnetising one of these old magnets after their magnetic field has been interrupted. And in any case, all the cleaning which you did could have been done without dismantling the magnet, all-be-it with a bit of fiddling about.
Also, did you apply some lubrication?
Fair comment, I am making sure going forward I say my videos are just me doing my thing and defiantly NOT instructional!
I thought you had left the armature locking nut out
If I recall someone else pointed that out and I went back and fitted it, But good spot, Thanks for watching.
Keep it original. Originally is valued in the old car world.
such a good call! thanks for watching
Get some electrical cleaner !!
Sorry for not responding sooner,, Since filming I have got some and it works a treat, thanks for the advice.
Don't paint it, keep the age showing
I didn't, and pleased I didn't! Thanks for watching.
Personally I’d leave it ….
I am coming to that conclusion, I may just give it a clean, thanks for watching.
@@dustyshelfcollectables a great job you did cleaning it. I have just acquired 9 or so second hand locomotives and am hoping to start to teach myself the art of servicing and cleaning in the coming months … so … thank you for the very nice content … all the best, Nige
I use renaissance wax to treat the paintwork ,its good too as it doesnt show figermarks.