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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2024
- Polk County, FL Sheriff Grady Judd two of his deputies are recovering after a deadly shootout. One deputy is listed in critical but stable condition and the other is stable. Judd said the suspect was a sovereign citizen, which means he believed the laws didn't apply to him
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Notice how sheriff grady mentions other crimes for why they stopped this man to identify him . He had committed no crime . If there is no crime leave people alone. Release the body cam so we can judge for ourselves
That's how socialism starts . These people are in the business of lying cheating manipulating and shooting people anyone who disagrees is called Sovereign citizen. The name Sovereign citizen is a oxymoron. I wonder what the Mexican cartel calls non-believers
I agree 💯! All this officer had to do was to ask him to leave because the park was closed. These officers created danger for themselves by harassing people minding their own business.
Criminal Trespass is a crime. The suspect was on the property after hours, therefore he was trespassing and the officer had probable cause to stop and identify him.
@@Juan_Doooh the signs said the park was closed not the parking lot, why not just tell him to leave. Not worth someone dieing over
The parking lot is part of the property, its not a separate piece of property. True not worth ones life, the suspect made that decision on his own when he produced a firearm and fired on the officers.
The initial contact was to identify and advise him to leave the property because it was closed to the public at that time.
His actions forced police to escalate the use of force when he decided not to comply and produce a weapon and open fire on the officers resulting in the loss of his life.
The officers were justified in their actions as soon as that weapon came out. That act alone will justify lethal force all day, every day. Police are trained to neutralize the threat, and that’s exactly what they did.
The term sovereign citizen is an oxymoron.
Look up the word "sovereign." It’s absolutely an appropriate description of these idiots. They think that they are special and "above" everyone else.
do u mind me asking how, 🤔 serious question
I'm missing where the dude identified as sovereign or moorish.
Cops are sovereign citizens due to qualified immunity.
Has to be a college drop out...
One minor thing I liked here: Judd says "we shot him" rather than "the deputies shot him." He's being the boss and owning their actions.
Some might hear a “this sheriff is a cowboy” by that statement, but sworn members hear “this guy has our back!!”
Yes because if cops don't like what you're doing even though it's legal they have the right to demand your papers, right to harrass you! Policies, ordinances are NOT above the constitution.
Also I'm SURE they've throughly investigated themselves and found NO wrong doing.
@@patriotcountry4716 Thanks for being on the true side of reality. People have no clue, just trust the U.S. commerce cop. After all what do corporations care for most $, power, revenue, profits. Just ask bill gates, soros, rothschilds, rockefellers, bilderburgs, warmans etc.
@@claroschmidt9304 Like a gang?
@@patriotcountry4716 These policies are not in conflict with the Constitution. If you think they are, you need to reread it again.
Well Grady if you would allow body cams it would answer a lot of questions.
0:36 that’s not what that means at all, it means unconstitutional statues don’t apply to anyone
You can't be a sovereign AND a citizen at the same time, duh.
Indeed he can being a citizen of planet earth as opposed to the current military state
It's more of a definition or labeling if anything to help determine someone that's fallen into this rabbit hole, not sure why they believe in this nonsense.
The only Sovereigns I can think of (in which laws do not apply) is GOVERNMENT.
but you can be Pregnant and. Virgin right?
@@dagnabbitt1158 Nobody is sovereign. Only the king of a nation can be sovereign. Everyone has to follow laws and pay taxes.
"until the lion learns how to write - every story will glorify the hunter."
Fortunately for the Lion you need not protect and cage the Lion, one need only to Free the Lion and the Lion will protect himself and feed himself when hungry!
Justice for kyran
@@xxbearyt8898 Kyran got his justice.
@@Cameraflyer- you don’t worry about my writing worry about your wicked heart
@@Cameraflyer- and you gonna get yours too when you meet your maker you gonna get all the justice cause you know you going to the devil
What was the lawful cause of action for their arrest? Detain and Arrest is synonymous in law. Take notice, suspicion is not probable cause.
when an officer tells you to get out of your vehicle and you choose not to comply, you are breaking the law. it does not matter what got you to that moment. however loitering is cause for an interaction. then he was given a lawful order and he ignored the order. then he is being detained and they have probable cause. if he wanted the laws not to apply to him, he can't use roads that tax payers pay for. driving is not a right it's a privilege.
What was the crime, anyway, refusing to provide ID?
I am tired of the whole Sovereign Citizen bull crap! If they live in the U.S. then they go by our laws.
You are a sheep and are confused i see
They need to call them what they really are Black Nationalists and they are all over the place down south.
All sovereign citizens in the country leave now, or you are going to be given a "piece" of land you can call your own. Hope you enjoy the warning.
Funny when it was the cops who didn't go by the law. Without a CRIME, cops don't get to demand ID, demand you exit the car or detain you in any way. This will cost Polk county MILLIONS.
POLICY IS NOT LAW. DO YOUR RESEARCH. GET A COPY OF YOUR STATE CONSTITUTION. READ IT. NOW U KNOW WHO IS REALLY BREAKING THE LAW.
The man had not broken any laws and was under no legal obligation to identify himself. He exercised his 2nd amendment right when officers tried to force him out of his vehicle.
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F*cked around and found out. Rest in piss.
He had broken a law. He was in the park after it closed. A cop tells you to get out, you have to get out, otherwise you are breaking a law. pennsylvania vs. Mimms. To your ridiculous 2A comment, i guess he was a buddy of yours?
@@Redspeciality it was not a traffic stop and by definition crimes require an actual injured party. Hence the body of the crime.
@@FredNewsomeDrink the cool aid much? The people can be the injured party.
You wouldn't have known whether or not he had outstanding warrants until you ran his driver's license, of which if he's a true sovereign citizen wouldn't have anyway.
Law enforcement can find your warrant regardless of a driver license. Name and DOB, or SS number will do nicely.
They can run the tag to see who is potentially in the vehicle.
@@michelleb564 There was no tag for those citizens
There are no actual "sovereign" citizens..we all have to abide by federal and state laws.
@@rampar77 That's a ticket. None of us would get away with that. I got pulled over when I bought a car and was driving it to the tag office.
Incorrect: A sovereign citizen is someone who believes illegal rules do not apply to him but the Constitution does
Lmao well that’s not how that works.
@@lennysmith8851 Don't fight a battle if you can't win. Force always beats fairness
@@ravenrock541 ??
The 10th amendment of the Constitution grants the states to create those "illegal rules". But you sovtards wouldn't know about that.
@@lennysmith8851 I mean it doesn't matter if your right or not if the other side can beat you in battle
Doesn’t sound like any laws were broke and she violated his rights tho😮why can’t people just sit in a car in the park anymore? Sounds he he plead the 5th and they broke the 4th amendment
A county ordinance isn’t a law!!!
Look up the definition of ordinance
@@venericanone Anything in contravention of Constitution is not a law. Constitutionalist Sovereign Citizens are Law Abiding, it's the many Law Breaking Poe PO departments that are the Criminals. A state has a ID/Search Law,it in itself is unlawful if individual has not committed a crime; meaning you don't have to ID or agree to unlawful ID,search, and seizure according to Constitution.
@@dmcnamara9859 refer to the 10th amendment of the Constitution which you sovtards ignore. Which grants the states to create statues and ordinances. If you don't like it, move to Somalia.
@@dmcnamara9859 I hope you take your meds
@@averagejoe112 nope,no meds. People like you are a danger to our country. Not even a BS federal law is above our constitution. Our country is built on Constitutional Amendments,not paracite government workers leaching off private sector and borrowed monies that will never be paid back and eventual implosion of USA as a whole.
There is no such crime as "suspicion", or "being suspicious". He first stated "the park was closing", NOT "the park was closed". If the park was not actually closed at the time of the initial encounter, then there was no reason for the interaction. You do not need to provide ID to a law enforcement officer unless they witness you committing a crime, or you are reasonably believed to have committed a crime (ie. You match a suspect description). Failing to provide ID when it is not mandated by law is not "resisting" or "obstruction". I want to see the body cameras.
If you don't want people in the park after 10:00pm, put lockable gates up and lock them and this would have never happened!
"They shot him a lot" and made him a sovereign cadaver.
Lead overcoat
Thank you our family would definitely miss our sweet young man so intelligent just a beautiful person. I don’t care what name they put on him. He wasn’t violent and he never wanted to fight like they said he didn’t wanna fight. He was terrified out there was he deleted because he was sleeping in his car out there, he could’ve came home. I wish she would’ve came home. None of us wanted him there. I think you guys for your comments and you’re doing the right thing. You got a question everything why is there nobody cams? Where is the footage? I know they had to have some type of camera out there is room for conduct, yes it is but they hide it. I’m a stay behind their shield.
As soon as he said it was a female deputy everything became very clear...
Same thought no doubt.
Drama queen Karen gets a guy killed for what again? Being at a public park. Escalated death sentence.
No he got himself killed when he shot two police officers.
What does her gender have anything to do with it?
@@karenneill9109 Racism and misogyny seems to run deep with these sovereign citizen lunatics.
I hate when cops use the excuse that “u fit the description “! It’s not good enough anymore. The first cop fits the description of a sandwich maker😂
And the sovtard fits the description of unalive 😊
You targeted the person you killed
Thank for your support
Yes, allegedly they were in a lawsuit with Kyron/and he won against them empire months before this before he passed he told his mother that they were harassing him following him. They knew what they were doing, and I’m exercise my speech, freedom of speech and justice for Kyron.
Why not just tell the guy to leave the park? Sounds like he wouldn't answer questions and then the Cops escalated.
He was wanted for a crime.
What crime and where please?
@pamelafarmer3426 They didn't say.
But being in the park after hours is a crime. Refusing to ID during an investigation is a crime. So is shooting the police.
0:29 why would they shoot a person for defending themselves from infringement of their rights?
because they can, they investigate themselves.
Love DeSantis standing for law & order
Law and order for whom?
For the innocent, for the law abiding citizens. Arresting criminals and putting them in jail means the criminal ain't be preying on a innocent person.
@@Thunderbyrd. who was this person preying on exactly while sitting in their car? Playing devil's advocate here. A question to think about. Suspicion is NOT a crime and can not be quoted in any legislation anywhere that I can find in and of itself.
@@nevaeh2013obviously he had something to hide if he opened fire at police officers.
@@Five0Five He wasn't hiding too much if he was shooting.
Your Business is filling beds in jails for $1 million each for 10 years
Yeaaaa has nothing to do with individuals life choices and daily decisions 🙄
What law he broke to confront him.
"He asked for a gun fight, we gave him a gun fight, He'll never ask for one again". Love this Sheriff!
Yeah there is a lot more at play here in this situation, the lawyers have prioritized money over the constitution.
Awesome👍👍 . How did you get so good at licking boots?
@@user-od7ym3df5mWhat do you mean?
Everyone knows cops are the sovereign servants.
@@user-od7ym3df5m I think your right. There is 2 sides to a story.
Prayers for there FAMLIES and officers
The police were not responding to a call. They were not chasing this person. They did not pull this vehicle over. They never accused the man of a crime. There were no laws here that did or did not apply to him. The only ones who did anything wrong were the police.
They had no legal authority in the situation and were actively engaged in violating the man's fourth amendment rights when he shot them. The officers need to be arrested and charged.
I wish these cops a speedy recovery
Law enforcement isn't even on the top 10 most dangerous jobs list. I'm being blunt because I believe dangerous trades need to be respected to a higher degree. Next time you see a construction worker, just realize they have a much higher fatality rate. Law enforcement is a dangerous job. I understand they have to use force in order to keep fatalities down. It's a war out there. Just like it's a war for regular people to build extraordinary things safely!!! It takes much skill to survive as a trade worker. You always have to be aware 12 hours a day ZERO AIR CONDITIONING. 🫡 Machines malfunction, physics is at play, fire, electrical, structural dangers. Heavy lifting, body wear and tear. Projectiles high velocity blades, hazards everywhere you look at a construction site.
Anyways, buy me food 😂
I agree though. I hope they are strong, heal up fast and can overcome any fear they incurred.
@@Gigafactory Realize that other occupations like construction have injury / death rates related to unsafe acts controlled by the worker. Criminals are the ones in control of a police interaction.
@bobroberts2371 Wrong. Instead of blaming common people. Why dont you accept that it really is a dangerous trade. That's like saying cops that die, cant shoot properly... Realize that there are more dangers for a construction worker to navigate on a daily basis. Cops might get into a handful of dangerous scenarios their entire career. Imagine working in a mine field full of danger. See what I mean. Go look at the top ten most dangerous jobs and ask yourself why "police" is not on that list...
@@bobroberts2371 blame it on the worker, not the jobs level of danger... 🤣🫡
F... YOUR RESTRICTIONS DO POLICIES OVERTURN THE LAW
Wow!! Man sits in a parking lot in his car. What crime is this? Oh wait, it's not a crime. Public means public. Making things up to justify murder isn't gonna cut it this time. COWBOY!!!!
You did not listen to chief! He SAID THE DUDE PULL UP BEHIND THE DEPUTIES CAR!
@ericcarter2020 non of this is making any sense. Guess we will have to wait for the body cams to be released. I do know warrants have been issued on the officers and Grady.
Yes thank you for your comments and thinking on this,kyran told his mom they were following him around months before his death and according to my family, Kyren had a lawsuit against them, and the cops had won on him too. That’s all I know cause that’s all the family told me he was my nephew and I knew him never ever was he ever violent and I think they could’ve they shot so many shots they said 38 and eight hit him. They could’ve hit they own with those bullets he never got out of how was he shooting on them all. I don’t think he had a chance out there to do anything they can kill the body, but they can’t kill his soul and all we can say is justice for kyran
@xxbearyt8898 thank you for that info. This whole thing stinks. Hope the Moorish community sticks with prosecuting these cops. Do you have any info about who the people are that filed the arrest warrants on them? Would like to stay informed on the progress . I myself am in the Private and not a commercial entity.
@@edbarrett6421 your very welcome my sister got kyran body back those cops are detective wanted her to let them cremate him before she even saw, and when she got down to Florida, they didn’t even want her to see Kyren‘s body. And they looked at him. They finally saw they looked at him and they told me he’s all tore up, they blew the back of his head off and the front two in the forehead and the body. He’s all messed up.
Get well soon Deputies!! Praying for both of you ❤
lol nah
@@coolboy5428 Spoken like a true genius 🙄
@lizzieb6311 Was booting a guy out of a park worth 2 cops getting shot and a citizen being killed? Apparently, it is these days. Continue to vote for it.
@@JohnnyJ223 Well, apparently it was worth it…the news conference last night revealed he had multiple firearms and ammo in his vehicle. Hmmm…imwonder what he was planning, Genius? To shoot up the children that play in the baseball diamonds…the basketball courts…the birthday pavilion (where he was parked)? The two brave deputies DOING THEIR jobs ELIMINATED the possibility of a mass shooting. Glad he’s GONE. BTW, it also revealed by his MOTHER that he attended Fresno State University for three years and she said was “indoctrinated” and went on with his DEMOCRAT LUNACY. He had changed his name and was no longer “the Christian son she raised” (her words). That’s fact and I do NOT Vote for these freaks..the Democrats do…I Vote for the for The People…NOT the criminals. Glad he is FINISHED
@@Appalachias_Son Only the ignorant are posting remarks like yours
So he’s saying if that first cop was making sandwiches like she was supposed to then no one would’ve got hurt!? Love this sheriff but I think he got this one wrong! She was scared of a black man sleeping and she called her hero homies to come rescue her and they violated his 5th and 4th amendment
women should not be cops they react on emotions, we don't need ponytail police.
Prayers for the deputies for full recoveries. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Why don't you pray 🙏🏿 to God that they stop 🛑 violating citizens rights 🤷🏿♂️
You like to Prey
@@fatronjones You worship Criminals
So he wasn't stopped. He was in a park after hours. He had no obligation to identify himself. It wasn't a traffic stop so Mimms doesn't apply so he didn't have to get out of his car. The initial deputy should have just said to leave the park. Instead you illegally tried to pry him out of his car and your deputies were shot. Sounds like your deputies need better training. The Sherriff has labeled this person a sovereign citizen because he stood up for his rights. Not rolling your window down is for the drivers protection from overzealous law enforcement that like to reach into cars against the 4th Amendment.
How do you know that didn't happen? Isn't trespassing illegal?
But isn’t rolling down the window for the protection of the cops?
Also, a lot of sovcits think the laws don’t apply to them. I’ve even seen video of some of them not paying rent, using some sort of “trust” that don’t seem to exists.
Driving without license insurance or registration
@@lovly2cu725 There is an argument to be made that one cannot trespass in a public space one has a legal right to be in. Sure, there's probably some civil code saying that it closes at dark; but that doesn't mean that he did not have the right to be there like every other person during the day.
Trespassing like that is the sort of thing that a written warning would almost be too much for without a prior interaction or verbal warning. It's the sort of thing that could have been most likely solved by simply saying that "the park is closed and you need to move along."
They did tell him to leave. Weren’t you listening??!! They don’t have to spell out every word. They have body cams to show how they asked him to leave and when he didn’t, it gave them the right to ask who he was. He had no right to see spend the night in the park.
Rules, regulations, statutes, mandates and ordinances are not LAW. They are color of law. A LAW must be violated in order for there to be a CRIME. No crime had been committed other than the police breaking the LAW by violating constitutional LAW.
God Bless these officers and thier families. Thank you to all members of law enforcement.
...for murdering an innocent man for following actual law that you are too lazy to research.
@@friedenhiker1032 Who pulled a gun on who? He just sucks at gun fights, like everything else, like is understanding of the law.
He shot two police officers….he aint innocent
Research? What research? These people only know what the public sector criminals tell them. They have no intention of learn anything. If their government says jump, they'll design a cliff from the highest point, with the most rocks to break your neck off of. I'm so done with these morons the don't want to want wake. They love when another man have dominion over them.
yes they are so very brave just like the cops in Uvalde Texas, lol, clowns wearing a clown costume. cops are so great and necessary that they can only manage to solve 2% of crime, they dont have time for that they have ordinances and policies to enforce. must generate revenue for the city, thats their only purpose after all they only a half step above a security guard
The term Sovereign Citizen is an oxymoron.
You are exactly right. And the only soviern citizens have to be appointed, hence the Police
how so
😂@@h_3_x_
@@h_3_x_ because a King is soviern and can not be a citizen.
@@stevenhunt3113 what are u even talking about. Do u know what sovereignty means
We (the public) salute you, and wish for a speedy recovery to the injured deputies.
The police were not responding to a call. They were not chasing this person. They did not pull this vehicle over. They never accused the man of a crime. There were no laws here that did or did not apply to him. The only ones who did anything wrong were the police.
They had no legal authority in the situation and were actively engaged in violating the man's fourth amendment rights when he shot them. The officers need to be arrested and charged.
@@thegolem9325. 👍
Speak for yourself
hey im part of the public don't salute them for me, you are the the voice of the public.
Those who live in their cars must be very careful where you sleep, what they are saying don't make sense.
6 policemen killed 4 wounded in the last month
🤬🤬🤬
I think it's been more
1 just killed his ex wife and 13 year old mother of his child. And went on the run with the 1 yo. Another strangled his fellow officer - and said it was accident ….. I could go on and on…. Another raped and killed about 8 woman in Austin …when they went to get him he ….killed the one he had stole that night….
The Purge Has Begun
Cops kill 3 people EVERYDAY. That's one every 8 hours. So, last month cops killed 12 people and wounded/injured countless more.
Things happens when you are in a fire fight
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I'd like to see the body camera footage on that one.
This hero cop Grady has so far successfully argued against them.
He claims it's for the publics privacy though there is no expectation of privacy while out in the public. Make up your own mind.
The body cam will tell the truth, not some press conference.
You do not have to ID unless you commit a crime or in a commission of a crime
Not any more.
@@nicolec7290 Did they remove the Constitution?
God bless these Deputies for doing the work for the law abiding citizens. Praying for the health of those injured Deputies and all Law Enforcement.
FOUND ANOTHER BOOT LICKER!
The man WAS following law. It wouldn't hurt you people to read a Supreme Court case every once in a while. They murdered this man in violation of law. They screwed up, so now the sheriff is trying to demonize him, in order to minimize lawsuit damage.
oh yes praise them they are such heroes just like the ones in Uvalde Texas. The thin blue line gang will always justify what they did, even if it was just standing around in the hallway listening to children get murdered and the guy they killed, the only other witness, what crime did he commit? Sounds to me like Grady has pretty stiff penalty for being in the park after hours. wonder what the penalty for jaywalking is?
Fight back against tyranny! This man broke no crimes..sitting in a park is not a crime!
Actually parks typically have specific times you are allowed ot be there. So yea it would be trespassing. But regardless he broke the law of attempted murdered. If you disagree with a police officer you can deal with it in court. You NEVER EVER have the right to open fire or assault an officer. The place to stand up for your rights is in a court room not the street.
@@lennysmith8851 man if u don't gone somewhere with dat weak argument time n time again people dieing for not committing a crime wake up, unarmed n people fed up plain n simple
@@missouristone6961 HE COMMITTED THE CRIME OF ATTEMPTED MURDER!
@@lennysmith8851 lhh he was minding his business was not hurting nobody. Defending your self from a trigger happy tyrant cop is not a crime buddy...there where many laws in this country that aloud mass murder by the way...let me ask u this..if a cop came in your home and snatched your kid breaking the law would u allow it.
@@missouristone6961 i wouldn’t shoot at the cops because i’m not retarded. I would get a lawyer
Murdering people over feelings 😢
You don't get to identify people because you got a call.... 😢
So let me get this straight; what self respecting burglar is going to think of a public park to go and steal?
None; that's not even a place they even consider to find anything of value!
All cops carry guns its common knowledge, how is it not self defense?
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
More like deadly chosen prizes.
Say Stupid phrases get Stupid responses
Out dated comment, you should credit the person
Body cameras show he did this!
What is AMERICA coming to?😢
An end
😢
Exactly... Vote for Trump 2024
@@markhughes2611trump wint solve anything just watch. He didn't even drain the swamp like he said he would.
The guy more than likely was sued over money and homeless imho happens all the time no lawyer would sue back in the day.
Missing here: BODY CAM AND DASH CAM VIDEOS.
of course you ignore that they never release them immediately.
@@mizzury54 have to have them to release them.
They said they don’t use by the cameras at all!
Cop is lying about what those sovereign citizens are. Not rolling the window down all the way is standard for protecting yourself.
So, no crime committed?
Correct. If he actually was a SC the Sherriff would have said his deputies saw a vehicle with no license plates in the park and when they aske for a drivers license he said he didn't need one because he wasn't driving he was traveling.
Thank you so very much! God blessyou
Message to Sovereign Citizens: There is no such thing as a Sovereign Citizen. Want to be one? Buy your own country.
I've never seen any of them win.
Contradictory comment.
Rather conquer your own
acually there is a term and condition to be a Sovereign Citizen. Do some research.
Exactly they have never won a court battle or a street fight with cops. They really are knuckleheads.
It doesn't sound to me like he was a "Sovereign Citizen" at all. (an oxymoron) All they said that he was "Morish". Never said anything about the car not having license plates, never said anything about not showing a drivers license because he said he didn't need one. Never said anything about what his CRIME or vehicle/traffic infraction actually was, just that it was a "suspicious vehicle" (an extremely vague term). Who was this guy bothering? He may very well have been a SC, but remember, cops across this country will label ANYONE and EVERONE who exercises their rights as a "Sovereign Citizen".
Thank you
Praying for the families affected by this!
Declaration of Independence states we are sovereign
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. He FAFO 'd it!
Old and worn out line.
@@lamarw7757 but still not as old as Biden, and not as worn out as his tighty whities
The police were not responding to a call. They were not chasing this person. They did not pull this vehicle over. They never accused the man of a crime. There were no laws here that did or did not apply to him. The only ones who did anything wrong were the police.
They had no legal authority in the situation and were actively engaged in violating the man's fourth amendment rights when he shot them. The officers need to be arrested and charged.
@@thegolem9325 you really guna copy and paste your bland comment everywhere? Lol
@thegolem9325 it's still illegal to just shoot ppl, unless your life is in danger.
I hope both offices make a full and quick recovery. My thoughts and prayers are with their families.
I’d like to see the body cam
Exactly, Judd refuses to use body cameras so he can make up whatever nonsense story he wants.
Grady here does not allow them.
Well if they would have did their job just wrote him a ticket this wouldn't have happen...just sayin..
All this over a park closing.
In other words they are lawless.
Suspicious is not a crime in the US.
Sounds like a lawsuit is in order to compensate.
He called another cop for assistance, but he called him to his death.....thats what are friend for ....
love this sheriff from Florida
Florida great republican state DeSantis County
Arrogant passive aggressive boot lickers just listen to how that sheriff Bragg's and makes judgement an assumptions
Some news to all sovereign citizens in the country leave now, or you are going to be given a "piece" of land you can call your own. Hope you understand and heed to the warning.
Florida will go to Biden this year. Four more years!
@@mushroomsteve you wont live four more years, mush
@@mushroomsteve
Amen!!!
As soon as he stated he was a sovereign citizen, why did you press him. You knew what you were messing with. You are no stranger to these people as you are with the Amish. By your own account, they, the sovereign citizen, are in every county in the nation. Seems like it would have been easier to explain that the park was closing and he needed to move along rather than demanding the paperwork, they should have known he didn't have and then demanding he gets out of his car. What did you expect would happen? He wasn't doing anything wrong sitting there. You wouldn't treat the Amish or others like that. I do feel for the Officers that got injured. Doesn't change the fact that your officer was over aggressive. In this great country, no one should be required to carry or produce papers on demand. Did we not learn anything from history? My opinion...
As I got on this page and I’ve been telling you guys and I don’t know if you guys saw the second press conference and you see everything I’ve told you is true he had no criminal record. He’s never been arrested. He was never in trouble at all, and he was never violent. He was very shy soft-spoken now the Morris group our family don’t know anything about that, but we know that he was. He never raised his voice at anyone he’s never assaulted anyone at all.
I’m telling you guys this situation here is really bad and it doesn’t add up first they tell me he was driving the car and then they said he wasn’t and then they said he rolled down the window and then when I talked to the cops, they told me he didn’t roll down the window so what is it? It’s a lot of conflictedstories, Kyron would not aggressively come at these cops like that. I know that and I know him soft-spoken never raises. Voice said anyone never had a fight never been arrested. He’s not a convicted felon. He had no criminal record at all.
You can’t be sovereign and a citizen at the same time 🤦🏾♂️
Please answer this for me please. Are you part of some mass bot community. I'm wondering why all these comments say that same thing, but worded differently.
@@15thelongway are you part of a troll community and scared to write things from your real page answer that
LMAO or maybe sovereign citizens are just delusional?
When politicians are soft on crime...
When will these Moorish sovereign citizens realize that this way of life does NOT work here in the US. If Morocco is so important why not just move there?
When will you realize that this ya-hoo is lying to avoid a lawsuit?
@@friedenhiker1032I could've sworn this guy has came on and said that he thinks everyone should have a gun.
You know nothing of the treaties signed. Educate yourself.
@bettymcjunkins109 I did...thats how I know it DOESN'T WORK. Lol
!God protect the Deputies who have love to the Law and enforcement to protect the citizens!!
I from way back but along time ago police minded there own business, there is no way I would have pulled up on a car like that
Some news to all sovereign citizens in the country leave now, or you are going to be given a "piece" of land you can call your own. Hope you understand and heed to the warning.
@@melquesedekcastro7480it sounds like you're threatening Americans
@@heightsofsagarmatha This is only your point of view. I never said anything about any American citizen and I talked about the people who doesn't believe the rule of law. They law will get to them on way or another. Nobody is above the law.
@melquesedekcastro7480 the law is supposed to applied with ethics and common sense. If a regular person is breaking a law but not harming anyone or making a mistake, just let them go. No need to collect ID and run NCIS check. Society is better off this way, it encourages respect for the law and good police-community relations. I want these deputies arrested for escalating the situation and don't think you deserve freedom or peace if you support them since they aren't true peace officers (they came into a peaceful situation and made it violent).
Cops claimed sovereign immunity in Gainesville Florida. WHOS THE REAL SOVEREIGN IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
He chose that outcome, the epitomy of cynicism. They're never wrong.
What was the cause of investigation against the white vehicle what was their probable cause for contact
The park was closed. Cops came to investigate
@@gregmccarter2176who actually funds the parks?
@christippin6244, the public pays taxes to the state for the park. The state has rules that people abide by. This clown decided not to abide by those rules.
Rules , regulations, statutes, mandates and ordinances are not LAW. They are color of law. A law must be broken for a crime to be committed. Where is the CRIME?
Release the bodycam. Being in a park is not a crime.
Thank you,this is kyran tic took account knack Elbay thank justice for kyran
Grady Judd's cops don't wear body cams and no one questions it because "good ol' boy" Grady always injects some humor in his stories and that entertains people.
@@freethinker_unchained those of life is horrifying just horrific it doesn’t matter what color you are , some many people are just devastated. The parents the other siblings grandparents. how could people do this without a conscience without a soul just like the movie alien, perfect killing machines. Knowing that these people have already suffered in life, four parents were enslaved and then the pain that the parents felt they take it out in their children’s and they beat them like they were in slave, their own black children beating them so severely almost unto death. At what they suffered little girls little black girls growing up in the world had a mom stepfather, but nobody cares. They have to do everything by themselves cook by themselves, walk the school by themselves at six years old, walking miles and miles school, Black people already suffered so bad and now we gotta go through it with Caucasians that hate us for nothing when we suffering so bad already, hate it without a cause. A little black girl who had dreams and all she wanted to do was sing and perform and loved it and love people, get beat in the head so bad with a broom and blood squirting all the head all over her face cause all she wants to do is sing we suffered already this prejudice and this racial crap. It has to stop somewhere all this has to stop, but I know it’s not more and more people have to be deleted because the hatred of Black people. Or just people of color part black part Cherokee Indian it doesn’t matter even if we tried to fight back in some matter we still have to die and you guys eyes.
Don’t you know there is a God and he’s coming back one day and no one will be able to defeat him not one. Some of us are so full of compassion we want to see lives live no matter what color we want people to live and not die before their time in my eyes, I don’t want to see anyone die no matter what color I don’t wanna see anyone hurt no matter what color!
I forgot to say just for Kyren a life gone too , I knew him well, and I never will believe that he would just open fire on anyone. I could never believe that shy, soft spoken young man who had dreams love to write books, intelligent, never had a fight with anyone in his life and now his gone from the body however no one can kill the soul. I never would imagine a person like him being murdered of all people a person who had beautiful dreams and strive for excellence and what was in a lawsuit with the cops allegedly and they had a lawsuit against him and then he’s gone and that night he was murdered. I was up all night, and I didn’t know why I couldn’t sleep and it was because someone was in trouble. And then sometime these powers at think they have it all together. Think they have all the answers but sometime they’re wrong sometimes they do the wrong thing and sometimes they lie about things not transparent will not wear body cams and if it is their room for misconduct, yes yes it is. specially when a person is black right away, you guys sock him kick him in the head sometime knee and the neck because you don’t like us and have anger and rage when you first come in contact with a black person you never did anything to you was in slave and all the anger and all the frustration they took it out on the little children, beat us too and now you guys come along I love my nephew and I miss him so bad and I used to worry about him being out in Florida and if he would’ve asked me, I would’ve told him not to go. Don’t go down there my daughter wanted to move to Florida and she told me that the governor was nice, and I said oh yeah I said let me hit one of his speeches and then when I heard a speech from him, I was like hit to the all they were talking about. They didn’t want studies in the college African-American studies and I was like ain’t that something and I’m a say this allegedly but now I will never go that way ever at what happened kyran definitely not going that way god bless and good luck too you!
@@xxbearyt8898 sorry but i dont know where you live that all that is happening to black people but its not happening here in the USA and also i dont see the relevance to what i said. what i said was SARCASM
Dont you know its illegal to be poor and homeless in this country.
I spent two years being homeless in my car and cops tried to force me to go to the next town. I didn't answer but he wispered very low and I couldn't 'hear'.
He didn't think laws applied to him. The ammo applied to him thought differently.
Buddy I don't know but the average person is fed with civil court suits.
All political power flows from the barrel of a gun.--Chairman Mao Zedong
Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force! Like fire it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left irresponsible action.
-George Washington
The police were not responding to a call. They were not chasing this person. They did not pull this vehicle over. They never accused the man of a crime. There were no laws here that did or did not apply to him. The only ones who did anything wrong were the police.
They had no legal authority in the situation and were actively engaged in violating the man's fourth amendment rights when he shot them. The officers need to be arrested and charged.
@@thegolem9325 You XX, the police were there enforcing the laws, no one admitted to park after hours. Come to Calif and I show you how we treat XX like you.
What law, what crime did he Committed?
The only "sovereign citizen" (OXYMORON) in that shootout was the cops!! Prove me wrong!!
false, as cops are not above the law, cops also have to be a Citizen, and take a pledge to protect the US Constitution.
@@lonnierichter6962 Hey guys we got ourselves a regular ole comedian here!! The constitution says that 2A SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!! So I'm going to start carrying around my shotgun on the dashboard... Hey, Lonnie said occifer!!
@@brianwebber6996_ROADHUNTER actually, that would apply to an US Citizen, as it is US Citizens that get constitutional rights.
@@brianwebber6996_ROADHUNTER so when you denounce your US Citizenship, you lose your US Constitutional rights, as you are no longer an US Citizen.
@@brianwebber6996_ROADHUNTER where did i SAY IT COULD BE INFRINGED,
These people think they don’t have to obey the same laws all the rest of us do. It’s ridiculous! They never do cooperate. 😡
And they never win, ever.
Some news to all sovereign citizens in the country leave now, or you are going to be given a "piece" of land you can call your own. Hope you understand and heed to the warning.
Why don’t all of us go be sovereign citizens with GODS SALVATION?
@@Thunderbyrd.better to die like a man than live like a coward
Tell this original comment to Israel
Cops go looking for trouble and find it smh
Facts. This land isn’t just law enforcements lands. Let people live.
So Hunter Buydin is a 'sovereign citizen?!'😅
*It's his Family Tradition*
Passed down for generations
among other things!
Suspicions not a crime
We need to stop this “sovereign citizen “ nonsense.
Right but how do we reform our police to that extent.
The police are the only Sovereign Citizens!! Which is a nonsensical oxymoron!!
It isn't nonsense. These people do not believe the law doesn't apply to them. They believe that ONLY the law applies to them.
@@jonathanstill4701 I don’t care what this guy believes no more than I care about Judd’s religious beliefs. The law and the actual authority that law enforcement has is all that matters. The hours are not posted at the entrance of the parking lot, they are posted at the entrance to the park. Was the deceased AMERICAN entitled to have an opportunity to leave prior to his presence becoming criminal tresspass? If so then all bets are off here and none of Judd’s copsplaining matters.
@@jonathanstill4701 Well said young man!! These fluoride zombies are eating up the oxymoronic Sov. Cit. smear campaign , just like Conspiracy Theory!! They literally do not think for themselves! Wonder if they've EVER had an original thought?!
Being suspicious to someone is not breaking a law. And there is no reason to exit your domain when you have broken no law, just because somebody is telling you to get out.
SCOTUS ruling in Pennsylvania v Mimms says different.
@@adolfmcduck1265 That only applies to a reasonable traffic stop.
This was not a traffic stop, and I would also bet that the fellow was not a professional driver paid to transport people and/or property for some other legal entity.
Being in a vehicle does not constitute being "in traffic", nor does it constitute "a traffic stop" when a policy-enforcement agent wants to inquire who you are or what you are doing there.
Exactly ,they murdered a man for sitting in his car at a park
Maybe you missed the part where the Sheriff said that city parks are closed at night? So yeah......
@@dyingbreed2221 nah I am pretty sure they shot him because they shot at him. Sooooooo....... what are you even talking about? I am sure you are one of the ones who think that George Floyd was killed for presenting a fraudulent check right? Not because he resisted and he ended up dying because of the mix of drugs in his system and pre-existing health conditions
He went from Moorish to Deadish. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Hmmm almost took some ….though.
Sound like he was minding his own business until the police killed him for just being in the area
@@apenny4urpodcast959 No they killed him because he decided to be a moorish moron and shot at the deputies.
Are you a member of the KKK too? Sounds like the Sheriff's racial slurr narrative being parroted.
Don't know FL law but here are some starting questions: Is being at a city park past closing time considered a crime by statute - sounds like you all just normally ask folks to move along? Was he asked to produce ID and if so, is it a crime to not furnish ID? Is this the reason for pulling the citizen out of the car? Is that part of the procedure for the crime - please explain the crime by the statutes? How would the Supreme Court case about criminalizing homelessness affect this case? On both sides, what steps were unnecessarily escalatory?
The case of Pennsylvania v. Mimms states that a driver must get out of the car if so ordered by police on a traffic stop. And don't care if the car wasn't moving, you are in control of the vehicle and the keys were within reach, so he was operating a motor vehicle.
@@hermitbob7304 But this specifies on a traffic stop. Is this considered a traffic stop?
A crime is ONLY one natural people harming another natural people. That should answer your questions.
@@friedenhiker1032 It doesn't. A uniformed or non-uniformed person can commit a crime.
@@hermitbob7304they should exercise that reasonably, the whole point of police is to ensure public safety and wellbeing. They weren't doing that here. If they were going after actual threats to society, ppl would support them
The laws did not apply to him. He saw to that, with the gun.
He didn't foresee bullets coming the other way though. And those certainly did apply to him. Didn't they.
He was 100% lawful. Unfortunately, he was murdered, and the taxpayers will have to pay out.
Go cry somewhere else.
I haven't seen any videos where they have won their arguments with police.
They do that in movies.
Sovern citizens are nuts. First amendment auditors win almost every time, because cops aren't trained well enough. Their trained to generate revenue and make arrests, not even basic rights.
Because they never do.
i have, many.
I've seen a couple. I think the cops just get frustrated and hope they keep moving.
Sick and tired of these sovereign citizens
Some news to all sovereign citizens in the country leave now, or you are going to be given a "piece" of land you can call your own. Hope you understand and heed to the warning. Explaining the warning, either you abide by the laws or you are going to be given some land.
Sick and tired of criminal cops demanding identification when they are not entitled to it. Basically this guy stopped at the basketball park right on Duff road to rest. Instead of being asked to move on due to an obscure county ordinance the deputy escalated. Demanded identification and when the guy refused they demanded he get out of the car. We will never know for sure because Judd refuses to use body cameras. Convenient for Judd…
Where have you encountered them and what problems do they present? I have never heard that term used by anyone other than police
Right, so you are one of those worthless, anti freedom bootlickers.
@@melquesedekcastro7480EVERYBODY WILL FOLLOW THE RULES INCLUDING COPS ,JUDGES ,AND POLITICIANS OR YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT IT . I DONT CARE WHO DOESNT LIKE IT .
He believed that the laws of the land didn’t apply to him. He also believed that the laws of physics/ballistics did not apply to him. He was wrong on both counts.
Dont go Florida at all if dont fit in todays society
The headline should read, sovereign citizen shot and killed.
The way the news frames this is misleading.
If you guys cared to do some research you would recognize what being a sovereign citizen really means. To say that it just means laws don’t apply is disingenuous and ignorant.
In reality this is what likely happened..
Guy has his rights and is exercising them. Cop starts barking orders, guy refuses to waive any rights… cops threaten him, then when they start to endanger him, he tries to protect himself.. ending up in a shootout where the cops kill him.. for what? For not complying.
Cops think they understand law and they don’t. They are trained to enforce statutes which are codified..
when legislation is in conflict with Constitutional rights, it has no power to enforce and has no withstanding. Court rooms later determine if it is a legal statute or not.. in the meantime, cops enforce them and even if they are unconstitutional.. which means that basically cops are raping people of their rights because the statute or statutes although erroneous and lawful, have not been proven challenged and proven in court that they are unlawful.
So basically, when cops do what they think is right.., because of their ignorance, they are injuring others rights and endangering their lives… this is why our system is so wishywashy and why we have so many legal disputes end in a death.
In media eyes, the cops are always right until proven otherwise. When in fact, the opposite is legally true (you are not guilty until found guilty). It doesn’t really matter when you abuse your power and then kill someone for standing their grounds.
It’s normally about equity… money.. cops want it and they are armed when they approach you. God knows what really happened, I just hope suckers don’t just believe the 1 side that the news portrays.
Some news to all sovereign citizens in the country leave now, or you are going to be given a "piece" of land you can call your own. Hope you understand and heed to the warning.
You mean like driving without license registration and insurance? That I’m traveling not driving argument? Paying rent by using “trust” that doesn’t seem to exists? Some of them even claims that they are DA and some other positions of power.
So your headline doesn’t mention that the sovcit has a gun and shot too? Isn’t that biased as well?
Wrong. He needed to get his “above the law” ideas out of the park that closed at 10pm due to high crimes that happen in all parks at night time. All he had to do was MOVE!!! The citizens own that park, not him. You need to let these people trespass in your driveway. See how you like that. They can bring all their law breaking friends with them.
Spot on! The sovereign narrative is a B.S. way of trying to captivate public opinion so police have all power and authority over every encounter even if no crime was committed rights have no power only the dog pack with guns. This way they can get away with murdering people that have not committed any crime and can make up the crime as they escalate the situation. Suspicious is not crime yet many many people are being murdered because some hero cop finds them to be Suspicious.
If he was in a public park ..?
he's usually not so reserved during these speeches, he was being carful of what he said. I am a little surprised he didn't say that being a sovereign citizen doesn't exist , that its not real. So is it real?
Being in a city park or State Park after closing hours is trespassing and breaking the law!
The signs are clearly posted it's considered loitering and trespassing that is breaking the law!
Asking what they're doing just to make sure they're not broken down and maybe up to no good or suspected of their neighborhood unrest as he mentioned that's going on any burglaries that don't keep the community safe is the right of police to make sure the community is safe!
It's not worth killing over, couldn't they have waited till day break???🤔🤔🤔
Don't use my money to enforce that law. There's a lot to do before we worry about parking in a park
Its owned by the citizens used by the communist government for exactly this result.
Anyone sitting alone at night in a city park is either a Criminal or a Damn Fool who wants to be the Victim of a Criminal. The whole idea of it Creeps Me Out !!!
@@joekulik999 Probably a swish waiting for his stud to show up.. most likely one of these idiots defending him.
Moor and Moorish designate a specific ethnic group speaking Hassaniya Arabic. They inhabit Mauritania and parts of Algeria, Western Sahara, Tunisia, Morocco, Niger, and Mali.
I have an old friend that started practicing this Moorish SovCitizen stuff. His mother was in the US Army all his life. He was a really cool guy but when he started that radical stuff I couldn't play along and see eye to eye with him anymore. He is miserable and always fighting something.
Islamists
@@seanohare5488 no.. blaques most of the time
@@seanohare5488 Not "islamists" or “islamism”. . . . simply islamics and islam . . . !
Islamism is our Religious Creed. I am a Moorish American @@EllieMaes-Grandad
Prayers for these officers & their families ❤
I'm not back in sovereign citizens here but it's suspicion a felony or a misdemeanor
People who commit felonies are subject to arrest at any time, by any one.
A car in a public park after "closing" is maybe a trespass at the most. The cop wanted to ID the person to see if they're wanted for anything else, and to get them talking to see if they would admit to anything else that can be cited for--and thus make the municipality more money.
What should have happened was the cop should have walked up and said, "hey, this park is closed; you should not be here. I need you to leave now, or I will have to cite you for trespassing."
But because cops like to power trip--female cops especially--she demanded his Identification, which she had no reason for at that point in time.
I went to court and used supreme court law and the constitution which is the law, and all my arguments were thrown out as sovereign citizen rhetoric. I had never heard of the term at the time, so I looked into it and discovered there was no such thing. The constitution is what makes America, America. So when it is being tossed out of court and violated wantonly by those sworn to protect it. It is no small thing. It is treason. There is a reason for the oath, so that it would be a crime to break it. Wake up, Americans, we are in a police state. They create new laws to steal your money, which is your property. The people paid for the park, the people should be free to use it whenever they want. They make these laws to create controversy and commerce.
not sure but its punishable by death in grady judd's town.
He had not committed a crime. You gave him unlawful orders without a crime. Suspicious is not a crime and your trying to cover up your mistakes . You don't shoot a homelessman.
I’m not allowed to attempt to murder people who ask me to do illegal things. Let’s forget sov cit title and just call him the aggressive ( passive or not) idiot. Take your arguments to court not to the officers just doing their jobs. If it’s illegal then you get your compo . However they never win in court so the courts ( who decide what’s legal or not) disagree with your foolish nonsense every time.
@@yodaami oh great intelligent one, you might want to do some research at the risk of sounding stupid
Praying for these deputies healing.❤
Absolutely 💯