The Windows Whistler Upgrade Saga! (Upgrading Through Pre-Luna Builds)

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    Today's video begins the 2 part Whistler Upgrade Saga! I'll be attempting to upgrade through some of the Whistler builds all the way to XP RTM. Let's see how that worked out!
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  • @Peeps40836
    @Peeps40836 Před 4 lety +210

    Ah yes, the MJD Windows curse: Saying everything is going smooth and then immediately goes something wrong.

    • @dessnom4333
      @dessnom4333 Před 4 lety +7

      its called the krazy ken curse

    • @Amber_123
      @Amber_123 Před 3 lety +2

      @@dessnom4333 underrated comment

    • @weegeenumberone2
      @weegeenumberone2 Před 3 lety +8

      @@dessnom4333 Except Krazy Ken curse is for MacOS, the MJD curse is for Windows.

    • @danielyaseen
      @danielyaseen Před 3 lety +1

      @@weegeenumberone2 yea

    • @Boowomp._.
      @Boowomp._. Před 4 měsíci

      The mjd Hardware curse

  • @TheFakeVIP
    @TheFakeVIP Před 4 lety +133

    This might be a bit of a strange request, but since I'm a blind viewer of yours, and since you make a lot of history and retrospective videos, I'd love to see a video on the history of Windows accessibility, whether that's built-in or third party assistive technologies.
    Many thanks for your content by a screen reader user.

    • @MichaelMJD
      @MichaelMJD  Před 4 lety +57

      That would actually be really cool! I’m not sure if that’s been covered before. Thanks for the suggestion! : )

    • @wafflesncatsup5323
      @wafflesncatsup5323 Před 2 lety +8

      Sorry if I'm being rude by asking this, but may I ask how you found the channel without seeing what you were clicking/tapping?

    • @zan0038
      @zan0038 Před 2 lety +1

      @@wafflesncatsup5323 Someone was with him?

    • @wafflesncatsup5323
      @wafflesncatsup5323 Před 2 lety +6

      @@zan0038 but that still doesn't explain how they'll "see a video" like their comment says. Sorry I not understand.

    • @TheFakeVIP
      @TheFakeVIP Před 2 lety +3

      @@wafflesncatsup5323 You're not being rude at all. I've been searching for quite some time now to find a good resource that explains all this, and I just can't find something, so here goes. Blind people use programs called screen readers to navigate a computer. If you visit my channel, you'll find videos of me ... well me from a few years ago at this point, doing exactly that. They read objects on the screen, and they're usually tied to reading the item that has akeyboard focus, at least usually. On mobile devices, they put a cursor on the screen that surrounds whatever item you're focused on, and you can move it by touching other parts of the screen. You can then activate whatever item was just read by double-tapping anywhere. In general, we don't use mice, they just make it harder since it's quite a visual medium. I can do everything you can do on your computer with a keyboard alone. Hope that helps.

  • @creedoo
    @creedoo Před 4 lety +25

    We need to appreciate how much time this guy is actually wasting for stuff like formatting, redoing some steps and trying out similar things with no result off the camera

  • @gilly5809
    @gilly5809 Před 4 lety +26

    These types of videos never get old to me.

  • @blu9821
    @blu9821 Před 2 lety +3

    I love how this channel has the exceptional clipping of "OH, this is going so good"
    *an error occurs*

  • @Jake1702
    @Jake1702 Před 4 lety +25

    I believe for the first build of Whistler you need to do some trickery and launch the installer through DOS for it to actually work properly.

  • @vivianciurus5326
    @vivianciurus5326 Před 3 lety +5

    It's 3 AM and I'm watching a guy upgrading between the betas

  • @JTRAIN
    @JTRAIN Před rokem +4

    These videos cannot get more old. Love the content Michael.

  • @jargon343
    @jargon343 Před 4 lety +4

    YAY! I LOVE these upgrade videos!
    Keep it up!

  • @learningtoflag5410
    @learningtoflag5410 Před 4 lety +2

    Woah! Nice Video Micheal! You always have some of the best videos I've seen! Keep up the good work!

  • @tristanraine
    @tristanraine Před 4 lety +6

    Aw hell yeah, another MJD video wooooo. Great content on everything man, will edit when I finish the full vid!

  • @winelectronic101
    @winelectronic101 Před 4 lety +9

    I had sent out an email to Michael about a possible solution for most of these builds to this problem, but if it helps anyone else as well, feel free to give this comment a like and reply:
    To get past the Windows Whistler Setup is Starting screen on builds that freeze at it, try going to your BIOS and disabling the ACPI feature. For whatever reason, builds 2257-2416 have a big problem with ACPI (which is the power management system) that causes the CD to hang at the blue screen Windows Setup program. 90% of the time this trick fixes the problem.

  • @StevenOBrien
    @StevenOBrien Před 2 lety +2

    5:10 "So we're just going to randomly re-arrange these desktop icons in no particular order"
    My OCD: "And I took that personally"

  • @Ardauxca
    @Ardauxca Před 3 lety

    The one thing that I love is when something does not work properly and I just can't help but laugh. Always great content MJD and keep up the fantastic work!

  • @i_lost_my_bagel
    @i_lost_my_bagel Před 3 lety +1

    New favorite channel. You're like druaga1 but more organized.

  • @ananmuadi31
    @ananmuadi31 Před 4 lety

    Great video Michael!

  • @Mickelraven
    @Mickelraven Před 4 lety +4

    Hey Michael! Can I suggest a video idea? I'm interested in an alternate timeline type of video on: *Where would Windows be today if Longhorn never got reset?* And that Microsoft's plans went the way they were suppose to. Longhorn was released in 2003, as a fine successor to XP. Then came Blackcomb, and then what? I'm honestly interested in this topic, and I'm surprised that this topic doesn't exist on CZcams

  • @nplsm
    @nplsm Před 4 lety +1

    Watching this at 23 PM because i do not havr a life. Keep doing this stuff micheal

  • @thatoneuser5066
    @thatoneuser5066 Před 4 lety +14

    Try upgrading through versions of Ubuntu.

  • @simonpetrus1981
    @simonpetrus1981 Před 2 lety +1

    Good video👍🏻 such a shame that we never got to the windows whistler desktop in this video☹️.

  • @jericoalba6368
    @jericoalba6368 Před 3 lety

    Can you make a slideshow of the screenshots from the faces of Windows from 3 up to the latest build of Windows 10? As a transition video to let us see how Windows changes over time? As a summary of all the history developments of the OS versions. I watched it all and it is so great. Thanks!

  • @michaelvairo6091
    @michaelvairo6091 Před 4 lety

    Great Video!

  • @vaanidel2117
    @vaanidel2117 Před 2 lety +6

    I know this video is extremely old by now, but build 2202 can in fact be bootable! I've modified the iso myself (and can send it to you if you'd like), but all you need to do is replace "i386/cdrom.sy_" with that same file from the 2211 iso

  • @Gordons1888
    @Gordons1888 Před 4 lety +7

    Me: Gets mad when windows updates
    Also me:

  • @WP7Nettwerk
    @WP7Nettwerk Před 4 lety +2

    Always when I watch MJD video, my hands want to install back Windows 2000 Professional. I miss that Windows. My favorite one. But @MJD can you make video how to install Windows 2000 on new hardware via Hyper-V on Windows 10?

  • @אאא
    @אאא Před 4 lety +5

    You should review Windows Vienna made by Vista (not the XP Vienna edition)

    • @אאא
      @אאא Před 3 lety

      @@someidiot4311 It's more than just a themepack, It's now in an ISO as a fully custom OS and receiving new updates

  • @clementpruvost8670
    @clementpruvost8670 Před 4 lety +1

    Cool ! Windows Vista developement retrospective ?

  • @ckingpro
    @ckingpro Před 4 lety +4

    $5 Windows 98 PC, you have a contender with the most physical OS installed: Dell Latitude D610. The laptop is preparing for the long -haul- horn (strikethrough does not work 😠) for beating you.
    Sports Commentator: Only if the OS installs successfully!
    Also, since the partitioning takes a long time, I think it is best if you use something like a linux boot disk to quick format the drive with a FAT file system and then upgrade that to NTFS for older OSes (though I think for newer post-luna builds, you can quick format?). If you do need DOS to launch something, use Freedos (It is open source version of DOS still in development! It's format command has quick format support too)
    I think the laptop is just too new to be properly supported by the older builds.

    • @QuantumScratcher
      @QuantumScratcher Před 2 lety +1

      You need spaces. Yes: long -haul- horn No: long-haul-horn

    • @ckingpro
      @ckingpro Před 2 lety

      @@QuantumScratcher Thanks!

  • @raxpyraxp
    @raxpyraxp Před 4 lety +1

    7:16 "Next we will accept this wonderful license agreement"
    Not so wonderful I should note :D

  • @hanstheexplorer
    @hanstheexplorer Před rokem +1

    4:10 Whistler Windows 2001 Professional (missed Windows Whistler 2000 Professional opportunity)
    6:57 The codename Whistler at the top has the Windows Millennium Edition logo. Eurgh.
    10:23 Blank Windows 2000 setup.
    12:33 Again, the Windows Millennium Edition logo on a Whistler/2000 setup.
    13:32 Blank Windo- WHISTLE! WHISTLE! -ws setup.

  • @bastardinabasket9535
    @bastardinabasket9535 Před 4 lety +5

    Could you do a review on the Calmira XP program for Windows 3.1?

    • @MichaelMJD
      @MichaelMJD  Před 4 lety +4

      I’ve actually done one on that version and the original Calmira!

  • @nikolan123
    @nikolan123 Před 4 lety

    Great video!

  • @athe52
    @athe52 Před 4 lety +1

    Now we go through the post-Luna builds! The next one should be for 7 development, since that has a somewhat interesting development.

  • @smoggysling4663
    @smoggysling4663 Před 4 lety

    Nice video!

  • @sburton015
    @sburton015 Před 4 lety +2

    Build 2250 was compiled on June 28th, 2000. Would you consider that to be a long time ago or fairly recent? Apparently beta builds are not guaranteed to work but for testing purposes only.

  • @GigantTech
    @GigantTech Před 4 lety +1

    Windows 2000 with no quick format i Love it

  • @superwholocked7418
    @superwholocked7418 Před 4 lety +3

    Michael is Druaga1 if he never smoked

  • @justingameshowchannel7668

    22:44 I know this is old but that bulid works in virtual box

  • @awesomereview2358
    @awesomereview2358 Před 4 lety +2

    The bsods on both bulids is pointing to the file processor.sys

  • @gd-ludlulu
    @gd-ludlulu Před 4 lety +7

    Hey Michael, what happens when you launch MSN Browser from Windows 9x on Windows 10?

    • @gd-ludlulu
      @gd-ludlulu Před 3 lety +1

      @Alejandro Herrera Barboza Yes .

  • @feanored
    @feanored Před rokem

    You should use a DOS floppy and change the dates, to a time before the whistler expires

  • @AstralSnowstorm6157
    @AstralSnowstorm6157 Před rokem

    Alternate Title: "Upgrading through Windows Whistler Pre-Luna Builds but Everything Goes Wrong..."

  • @hugosimoes5119
    @hugosimoes5119 Před 4 lety +1

    21:11 It's just like that screen says, use Smart Drive. Find smartdrv.exe ... diskette or CD... run smartdrv and it should copy files way quicker. I would use the Windows 98 CD instead of the diskette.
    Maybe try some other PC or rebuild one instead of DELL. Some ASUS/ASRock/Gigabyte motherboard, an Intel P4 s478/LGA775 or AMD Athlon/Sempron, 512MB DDR or more, AGP gfx...

  • @MajorStu
    @MajorStu Před 4 lety +2

    The Windows Whistler builds are my favorite to look at besides Windows Longhorn.

  • @ExperimentalCreat0r
    @ExperimentalCreat0r Před rokem

    7:22 when you do a example of jinxing yourself
    And then later your jinxed

  • @Lightyboii
    @Lightyboii Před 8 měsíci

    If you would copy the processr.sys file of the first build to the broken ones, would it help it perhaps? Since that file worked, it might also then...

  • @-GameHacKeR-
    @-GameHacKeR- Před 4 lety

    Has to be a microsoft default driver issue for something your computer has. PCEM version could be interesting ;)

  • @disasterocks
    @disasterocks Před 4 lety +9

    What happens when you upgrade through every version of windows memphis?

  • @verygenericname
    @verygenericname Před 4 lety +1

    YESSS

  • @bingedo
    @bingedo Před 2 lety

    The KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED error occurs when the software or applications overwrite each other's memory. It causes crashing of the software as well as results in a blue screen.

  • @addiesworld1855
    @addiesworld1855 Před 4 lety

    You should try a different machine for the upgrade saga. Maybe the 98 PC would have a higher success rate for Whistler.

  • @misterkuda704
    @misterkuda704 Před 4 lety +1

    Can you do a redux of the Windows Vista Development history?

  • @the2323guy
    @the2323guy Před 4 lety +1

    i have a compaq presario 1400 and it runs windows whistler beta 1 build 2267 without problems. when i installed this build, it ran it for the first time with no problems. maybe try using a different computer :/

  • @applesiri2381
    @applesiri2381 Před 4 lety +1

    Iqrl not less or equal means that another file is asking windows to give access to it but windows declines . Then a fatal error is caused.

  • @Custmzir
    @Custmzir Před 4 lety +1

    Hey man can you pls help me get a windows xp pro 64 bit ISO to download I couldn't find it anywhere in the web

  • @henrybarwick6792
    @henrybarwick6792 Před 4 lety +1

    Are you going to make a Windows 10 Development History video?

  • @octokid264
    @octokid264 Před 4 lety +3

    I mean you could try to Upgrade to Neptune from M.E

  • @RealOscarMay
    @RealOscarMay Před 4 lety

    Good video😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

  • @amconners
    @amconners Před 9 měsíci

    banana.ani is a cursor, but the reason it fails to copy when running Setup from DOS is because of the CD driver on the boot disk. DOS CD drivers work by creating a system device which MSCDEX can then use, and whatever name you give it becomes a reserved name within DOS just like any other system device (e.g. CON, COM1, etc.). the 95 and 98 boot disks used a device name of BANANA for the CD driver, so when Setup tries to read banana.ani, DOS recognizes it as the name of a system device and redirects the read attempt to that device instead of reading from the filesystem
    the simplest solution is to just use the 98SE boot disk instead. Microsoft changed the name of the CD device to MSCD001 in 98SE, presumably because someone somewhere had a file named banana and ran into this same problem

  • @andreytop1gg
    @andreytop1gg Před 3 lety +1

    Build 2416 worked in a VM, but don't work in real hardware. I used VirtualBox

  • @CaelThunderwing
    @CaelThunderwing Před 4 lety +1

    *insert Imposibru meme here* @20:39 , formats to just shy of 10.79GB, buuut~~ then Total Disk space to be about what 74GiB/76GB in total size? Somethings not right.

  • @vernie_in_hell
    @vernie_in_hell Před 4 lety

    yayy!

  • @acidric7995
    @acidric7995 Před 4 lety

    Hi. Can you take a look at GMac OS? Thanks.

  • @SkyeWeeb
    @SkyeWeeb Před 4 lety +1

    I never thought an upgrade saga could fail more than the Longhorn one

  • @RodrigoBadin
    @RodrigoBadin Před 4 lety +2

    Go through all Windows 10 builds too

    • @RodrigoBadin
      @RodrigoBadin Před 4 lety

      @Štefan Darvaš one build per year at least.

  • @aby2828
    @aby2828 Před 4 lety

    can u pls do the windows 10 update history

  • @slashtiger1
    @slashtiger1 Před 4 lety

    Banana.ani is *_not_* a driver file. It is an ANImated cursor for use in Windows themes... There's quite some difference between a driver and a cursor file... Just so you know.
    FYI: .ANI are animated cursors, .CUR are still (non-animating) cursor files.

  • @JesseMario2009
    @JesseMario2009 Před 4 lety

    Go through all Microsoft Blackcomb builds

  • @YeanYean1993
    @YeanYean1993 Před rokem

    I know what you mean man. That kind of stuff happens to me a lot.

  • @d-tech3190
    @d-tech3190 Před 7 měsíci

    A bit late but I'm pretty sure the BSoDs were due to unsupported CPU.

  • @lilianamirassol7107
    @lilianamirassol7107 Před 2 lety

    Do a video of windows 1.0 beta builds

  • @MickeyMousePark
    @MickeyMousePark Před 3 lety +1

    out of curiosity does this computer have an Intel processor?

  • @namesurname4666
    @namesurname4666 Před 4 lety +2

    Can you review windows vienna (vista mod) and not xp vienna?

  • @rastanley1027
    @rastanley1027 Před 2 lety

    btw the bsod says proseser.sys thats prob why it might not be suported

  • @GuestyMC
    @GuestyMC Před 2 lety

    Lol only 18 dislikes 😂 This proves that almost everyone likes MJD's vids 🤣

  • @presidentkiller
    @presidentkiller Před 2 lety

    Banana.ani must be an animated cursor. At least the ".ani" file extension is what it is for.

  • @mattelder1971
    @mattelder1971 Před 4 lety

    Banana.ani isn't a driver, it's the banana shaped animated cursor! LOL

  • @imeepysleepy
    @imeepysleepy Před 4 lety +7

    Seeing this makes me wish someone leaked an oddysey build :(

    • @QuantumScratcher
      @QuantumScratcher Před 2 lety +1

      :-( too.

    • @CatsRobloxOther2nd
      @CatsRobloxOther2nd Před rokem

      Why? There's hundreds of modified windows isos that attempt to replicate what oddsyesy would have looked like

  • @aanjaneyamehrotra2100
    @aanjaneyamehrotra2100 Před 4 lety

    Alternative title- windows whistler installation annoying micheal for 35 minutes straight

  • @prycwrn
    @prycwrn Před 4 lety +1

    35 seconds ago,
    time for a new good video

  • @TobStonk
    @TobStonk Před 3 lety +1

    Wait a sec... That's not the $5 windows 98 PC

  • @_b3nn__
    @_b3nn__ Před 11 měsíci

    fauvorite video fr

  • @nenamoree9
    @nenamoree9 Před 2 měsíci

    "The Windows Clean Install Saga"

  • @Whisler
    @Whisler Před 2 lety

    Next NT 5.0 builds

  • @notwin69
    @notwin69 Před 9 měsíci

    Me casually having mjd curse

  • @kennysbusdrawings
    @kennysbusdrawings Před 4 lety +1

    I dont like it when my kmode exception isnt handled

  • @gavinhang619
    @gavinhang619 Před 3 lety +1

    Windows 7 Beta Upgrade Saga?

  • @brandynbaldwin9805
    @brandynbaldwin9805 Před 3 měsíci

    Ah I mean I was able to install up to 2296 just fine but couldn’t do after that

  • @stupidgenius42
    @stupidgenius42 Před 4 lety +2

    Hi Michael

  • @sosopwsi829Jjw9
    @sosopwsi829Jjw9 Před 4 lety

    I really don't like vista but I respect people who like it

  • @aydenrw2719
    @aydenrw2719 Před 28 dny

    I've always wanted to install Windows prototypes on real hardware but old computers are expensive

  • @henrybarwick6792
    @henrybarwick6792 Před 4 lety +2

    62nd Comment! Wow....
    Not an achievement.
    :(

  • @Cunninghamily
    @Cunninghamily Před rokem

    17:41

  • @rebeccadale6335
    @rebeccadale6335 Před 4 lety +1

    Install win 98 betas on this laptop I know I'm late

  • @alpha-9609
    @alpha-9609 Před 2 lety

    Betawiki Said The system may bugcheck with error code KMODE_EXEPTION_NOT_HANDLED when attempting to install drivers.

  • @Arfus_UwU
    @Arfus_UwU Před 4 lety

    Would you ever go live?

  • @TheFakeVIP
    @TheFakeVIP Před 4 lety +2

    These videos are probably going to be at least 45 minutes long
    *Looks at duration of video.*
    Well then ... I'd hate to see the cutting room floor. :-)

  • @Bluewave10146
    @Bluewave10146 Před 4 lety

    i miss windows 95 .. 98.
    Windows XP
    Windows 7

  • @Mtik333
    @Mtik333 Před 4 lety

    Like I said in other video (or on Twitter, not sure now), you should do Linux upgrade fest instead (starting from some Ubuntu release supporting further upgrading, maybe Ubuntu 1 even has such capabilities?, to the max possible), you won't suffer that much like here.

    • @QuantumScratcher
      @QuantumScratcher Před rokem

      there never was an ubuntu 1, the first version was 4.10 because of the naming scheme

  • @adomantm
    @adomantm Před 4 lety

    Try update longhorn to server 2003