P365 vs Hellcat vs MAX-9 vs Shield Plus
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- čas přidán 14. 04. 2021
- Heads-up comparison of all four micro-compact concealed carry pistols that sport double-digit capacities in their flush-fit magazines. The quadfecta! Let's get to it.
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Find these models on Brownells at the following links:
SIG SAUER P365: bit.ly/36nNQej
Springfield Hellcat: bit.ly/30OZtXI
Ruger MAX-9: bit.ly/2PDU6s7
Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield Plus: bit.ly/3e2aUl2 - Sport
I shot the Shield Plus the other day and was amazed by how something so small and light could simultaneously feel so secure and weighty in my hands. I tried out the Hellcat before and was more impressed by it than I was the P365, but man my experience with the Shield Plus was incomparable. Definitely gonna be my next EDC.
I am impressed with how you said nice things about all 4 guns without bashing either of them because at the end of the day all 4 well built and reliable just personal preference! Great video well done !
You two are the first reviewers that I’ve heard say that the P365 has more recoil than the Hellcat
They're not wong..
He’s full of shit the hell cat is better than 365
Hellcat is more snappy than p365!
It felt like it has more snap than the Ruger Max 9 when I tested it.
The Max 9 front sight is a game changer.
Very easy to pick up since its so bright.
And all variations of it are pre-cut for MRDS optics. Plus it's $100 cheaper than the next cheapest one.
But s it relable and how is takedown?
@@jakeb8298 very reliable in my experience due to the looser tolerances it has. Takedown requires you to remove a pin. It's not glock-easy, but definitely easy enough.
@@jakeb8298 Takedown is takedown. You do it as needed. Some guns are easier than others.
@@Hickeroar And do you need a tool to remove the pin?
Love the Shield Plus. Yes it's the largest out of these 4, but the longer length and width of the grip fills out my hands more and allows me to control the recoil on these snappy guns much better. I also prefer the trigger on the Shield Plus. Most engagements will most likely take place at 0-10 meters so even a terrible trigger will still work at those ranges, but the Shield Plus' trigger makes training much more enjoyable.
I would highly recommend getting the optics ready model for $50-100 more even if you don't use optics because it comes with night sights. That's a cheaper and time saving alternative unless you really prefer a certain night sight.
even better, glock 43x. I have huge hands and feel more confident with it than the shield, and I'm not a glock guy.
Optics on a carry so you can pinpoint the nose hair at 0-10 meters 😂🤦♂️
@@SaintsCheat I mean it's easier to acquire the target and faster than lining up your iron sights even if it's meant for up close self defense. It also makes it more fun for range days to hit targets at further distances. Even if you don't care about the Shield Plus being optics ready, the optics ready variant coming with night sights by default is already great
I bought my optic ready shield plus with manual safety for 347. I want to get the Yhm r9 can for it and faxon has a sale on threaded barrels (133 in gold) so I added it. I also added the ndz slide racker in gold
One can't go wrong with any of these pistols. Get what fits your hand. I have the Plus and love it
Had a Hellcat... to me it shot SNAPPIER than the P365
That's what 99% of people say except the guy on this review
This is what I’ve always heard in reviews… I have a p365 and it shoots so soft with little muzzle flip, I let my nephew shy it when he was 8yrs old and even he handled it nicely
Same. It's not that much more, but you can feel it. I still shot the Hellcat better than the P365 when I tried it at the range though and I'm used to primarily shooting .40 S&W so I put up with it the extra snappiness.
Recently I gave my Hellcat to my grandpa and just received the optics ready Shield Plus yesterday. I shot 92 rounds at my local range this morning and absolutely love it more simply because of the larger and wider grips.
Totally agree with everything the second guy said about the Hellcat as I have the FDE version. I don't like the take down on the Ruger but I think if you pick one of the four, you're getting a good Gun
I've tested all four, and while they are all worthwhile to own and carry, the winner for me is the Shield Plus.
It's a huge upgrade over the prior Shield and it does demonstrate much reduced recoil. Easily the softest shooting one of the group.
Couple that with the improved capacity, trigger, and grip and...well... What's not to like? Highly recommended. Great recap!
But size matters and when you keep getting more ounces with the shield you're right there with a glock 26/27 and then you get better "everything." (reliability, firepower, accuracy, etc.)
@@jakeblack7784 For me, it all comes down to the 'feel' of the firearm in your hand, comfort and controllability. Accuracy is based primarily on the shooter's ability, not the weapon used. I have a small hand and the Shield grip feels perfect to me. I've never been a fan of the grip angle on a Glock. I should have specified, in most situations, I must pocket carry due my business. I actually carry my new Ruger LCP Max more than my Shield. It's easily the most concealable firearm I have ever owned. As I stated above they are all excellent firearms, as are Glocks, but when it comes down to having confidence in any given scenario, to each, his own. Carry what you are most proficient with. IMHO.
@@mattc5791 Agree. I much prefer pocket carry so size is important. The Ruger Lcp 2 is perfect except that it's a 380, but so much smaller. What I do is carry 2 oz. Fox Lab cone pepper spray that stops people/dogs instantly and have the 380 just in case. There is so much that can go wrong if firearms are involved so the pepper spray throws out a lot for a distance of about 15 feet. But if I were in a high risk situation I'd have my glock 40. Take care.
What’s not to like is the slide catch that’s a tiny piece of metal now. Junk if it snaps
The P365 is too small for my hands. The Springfield is made in Croatia. The Ruger is probably not a bad gun. The Shield is the bomb. I love Smith and Wesson.
You said it. The Shield is more proven with ZERO reliability Problems as well. Not to mention it shoots better then any of them with a better trigger, doesn't have a Grip for a 6 year old and has far less muzzle flip.
@@michaelschwab9563 I had a Shield slam fire on me so ZERO reliability isn't true...
@@petedetraglia4776 mine did the same thing after cleaning.
@Nilly Sigger I think he's saying it fired after loading it and releasing the slide forward.
Well, the shield is the biggest of the bunch. The deal breaker for me is the super stiff slide lock. I have a shield and you cannot use the slide stop as a release. Some don't care and say it's not designed for that, but I for one use it to release the slide
Man, I just bought my first gun and after handling 3 of these in the video, I decided on the shield plus. After my purchase, I started doing research and everyone has had nothing but good things to say about the shield plus. I was keeping my wife in mind when I bought it. If it was just me I was drooling over a Beretta 9mm but thought it might be a little much for my tiny wife. The salesman was trying to sell me both lol. Anyway, thanks for the video!
For me personally I like the plus but if she is recoil sensitive the ez 380 is a great little gun. I wouldn't hesitate to grab that one either.
hey guys..nice video...one of the few I have seen where it is just real time, quick feedback on each guns' performance. Much better than watching other review videos where it's 13 minutes of going over every attribute of the gun, then a minute of shooting at the end. A lot of useful comments in 8 mins.....
Best comparison would be 4 new pistols all stock! 👍👍 the sig was used and has at least a aftermarket barrel and the hellcat has a aftermarket trigger....
agreed and there an extended mag on only one. Thats obviously going to affect grip, recoil and accuracy
i have the p365 and p365 XL both of them are the NRA edition and the XL is my carry gun and i love it!
So glad someone did this video!
I was thinking the same
For real. It was an easy decision for me though. P355
Thanks for the video. I was debating between all three of these. I ended up going with the P365 and LOVE it. Mine was the Tac Pac which included 3-12 round mags, a hard case and holster for $549. The mags alone are 50 bucks each.
I grabbed that same deal. Hard to beat that tac pac.
Nice where did u find this deal?
@@TaniaAmthor rkguns dot com, but they only deliver to your local Rural King if you have one nearby. I actually picked mine up in store at my local Rural King.
@@TaniaAmthor I ordered mine from Northwest Armory.
nice straight forward head to head. It is so nice to know we have 4 great choices. Pick the one that fits you and you like to shoot.
Should have tested a stock trigger on the hellcat. Bought my GF the P365 and it's very nice. I think I'm going after the Shield Plus for myself.
It’s the best option of the four, IMO.
Awesome review!
After seeing many reviews. I am going to buy a shield.
love mine!
From the factory the shield plus has the best trigger by far! S&W did an awesome job on that one.
I love mine!
I did, and flipped my P-365 which never felt right in my hand!
Just picked up my shield plus PC. I don't regret a thing.
I’ve been wanting the P365, but now I’m becoming interested in the Ruger Max 9🤔🤔
I have owned two P365, they just never felt right in my hand, the S&W Plus feels perfect.
@@fordlouis747 I love the feel of the shield , but I’m not so big and hands are not too big and think something like the P365 would fit nice, I had a Ruger LC9 which was really nice but had an issue or 2 with it and sold it , but now I kinda miss it🤔
@@leonsam12 I had an LC9s Pro and it was a nice pistol that fit my hand well, had an excellent trigger pull, but unfortunately, the thin trigger caused the trigger safety bar to pinch the pad of my trigger finger to the point where it caused a blister??
@@fordlouis747 oh wow, my problem was my LC9s wouldn’t fully eject shells sometimes, and at the range it kept bouncing shells toward me, down my shirts, jacket and even into my safety glasses, other than that I loved it🤔
Max 9 > P365
Recently just bought the Smith and Wesson sheild plus and absolutely love it.
I’ve been shopping for a new carry pistol, all of these pistols plus the G3C have been on my list.
The one I have decided on is the Ruger Max 9,, because it’s optic ready, has the tritium front sight, the standard sights can be co-witnessed with an optic and the Ruger service department is better than a lot of the other manufacturers.
How has the ruger been for u? I’m thinking of getting one.
@@twerkingmidget6230 my Max 9 pro has been great. It’s controllable, abet somewhat snappy ( as micro 9’s are) but I have been able to place 10 rounds in a 5” circle with a quickness at 15 yards.
I’ve only had one malfunction in 700 rounds down range, a failure to feed, and I think it was my left thumb resting on the slide that caused it.
I trust the Max 9 with my life.
I’m about to put a Crimson Trace 1550 on it and put that through some range time.
For the money the Ruger Max 9 is solid.
Optic cut, tritium front sight, 12 round extended magazine, the only thing missing is a rail for a light…but I can live without that I EDC a flashlight already.
Good shootout, how does the Sig p365xl compared to the Shield Plus?
I ordered my Shield EZ ONE WEEK before the Shield Plus came out! If I'd waited, I probably would have gotten that one instead, but it wasn't an option the night I ordered mine online. Still, very happy with my Shield and most importantly--HOW I SHOOT WITH IT. That's the important thing (though I would LOVE that flat-faced trigger on the Plus). Also bought more 9mm ammo today, at around 44 cpr, which is pretty good; prices sure have come down since the spring. I had looked at the Sig, but recently shot one (the M-17) and it was a little harder to shoot, had more recoil and I got tired faster shooting it. Give me that longer barrel (less recoil) any day! Thanks for the video, guys!
I tried to like the P365 so much I purchased it twice and sold it both times . When holding the muzzle end just felt heavy and awkward to hold in my opinion. My carry weapon is a Hellcat it’s an awesome pistol and you don’t even know your carrying it all day it’s so comfortable !! I carry it with a 14+1 Hyve mag they are amazing !
Great video!
Nice video. Subscribed. Thanks 👍👍
Didn’t realize you had a CZcams account. I got into guns just last year in April and you were the first gun reviewer I ever followed. Great review as always!
I had a really hard time deciding what to buy once all the options were out. I went with P365XL since it had a flat trigger, optic cut, some rail space if i i want a light, same size grip and capacity as the shield plus, and it felt great it my hand. To get the optic cut on the shield plus, i would have had to spend over $900 for the performance center model, and i had to take value into account at some point as well. The ruger seemed like the best value by far, but i just wasn't in love with it, and it has no track record yet. I could see myself buying the ruger if money had been a bigger issue for me. I might still buy some of the others. My wife still needs a carry gun, so she'll probably pick out something different than i did.
I wonder if the the longer barrel they used with the P365 affected the recoil. Longer dwell time without the added weight of a longer slide. I do own the Hellcat and love it, but did install a threaded barrel with the GA mini comp. Now it shoots nearly as flat as my P365XL which I love as well, but I carry the HC more than the XL.
Glock 43: HEY guys, awesome party.... alright imma leave now.
43x: “ shut up fatty, your man wants me”
The 43X wasn’t even invited! Being snooty never wins friends!😆
@@granthenderson696 The 43x is like the fat girl that says she is thicc but is shaped large like a rectangle with no curves. While the other 4 guns got a skinny waist and "assets."
@@kimurasquirrel ..... brilliant!!!!😆😆🤣
Lmaoo
Nice vid been thinking about a pocket carry up grade from my lcp for about 2 -3 years since then the market is flooded with micro 9s but I’m still going to stick with what I intended all along :the p365 besides isn’t it the only one that you could carry comfortably in the pocket?
I still love my P365! The Shield has me interested though.
Both are great for what they are I own a shield the wife the 365!!
The Shields stiff slide stop breaks the deal for me
This is what I call a showdown 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Glock 43x MOS with shield mags is king. Reliable, accurate, and plenty of fire power.
I can't find the MOS version of the Glock 43x anywhere. I envy you. At this point I'm kind of desperate and might just get the standard 43x model because optics on a pistol meant for closer engagements aren't as important as it could be for a Glock 17 MOS. The 43x with the Shield Arm mags could be a great in between for my Shield Plus and Glock 17.
I'm wondering why the Kimber Micro 9 was not included in your video?
Just got my holster for my HK VP9 with TLR 7A. I actually prefer it now over my regular carry gun..Hellcat.
I bought the Shield plus. I had to order it because nobody had it in stock. I have had the original Shield for years. Most comfortable small 9 I have fired. I tried someone's P365. It was tiny, which I liked, but a little too snappy for me. I haven't shot the Hellcat or the Max 9 yet. I own a lot of Ruger firearms, so I am curious about the Max 9. I might get it too, not sure yet.
These videos just make me want all of them!
Any gun is only as accurate as the person shooting it. I know there is always the latest and greatest, but, my Hellcat is awesome and will continue to carry it. Not sure what an M&P guy is, but, don't ever choose a "brand", choose what works for you.
Agreed. I personally am not a fan of any S&W semi automatic hand guns. Don’t like any of the triggers and they feel bulky.
Thanks for doing the video. I’d be curious where the Sig XL might fit with the lineup...
Agreed!
Agree and the 43x with shield s15 mags.
My S&W Shield 9 Plus smokes the Hellcat, Sig P365 and the rest everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
The S&W is a smoother shooter.
The inherited M&P grip is the best in class (no talon grips needed with the Shield)
It comes with a superb trigger, best in class for sure.
You can get it in all configurations, manual safety or not. 3.1 or 4 inch barrels.
No snag iron sights, night trijicon sights, sweet fiber optic sights or RMSC footprint red dots.
And the mag release on the new Shield Plus is nothing short of brilliant.
At the range it’s easy to observe how much better balance the S&W is under recoil, just soo soft, a true wonder of engineering.
And lastly the slides are just like glass and have impeccable finishes.
And a handful of months after its release the new Shield is for sale for 442 online. A true bargain
Cut and paste man
Gx4 max9 vs hellcat which has best recoil?
I just ordered the M&P9 Compact Pro M2.0 OR 4" for church security. I plan on ordering the M&P9 Shield Plus for my personal defense everyday carry gun. I am 5' 2" and 130lbs with small hands and I shoot lefthanded, so I am ordering both guns without the thumb safety. I think these will do nicely.
Out of curiosity, why no safety? Because you are left-handed? I may be looking to purchase this soon and will need to make this decision.
@@anthonyblood2439 Yes, because I am left-handed. This pistol does have a trigger safety. Good luck.
How about accuracy? Would have liked to see the targets you shot. Good information and thanks for the video.
Great video. Thanks! Would have been nice to see if there were any difference in accuracy on the target. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for that! I haven't even seen the Ruger yet, have handled all 3 others. (Not shot them yet.)
I owned 2 hellcats. I'm an M&P guy so I tried out my buddies new shield plus.
Amazing!
So I sold one of my hellcats and bought a Shield Plus.
Honestly any of the four guns I think you are doing well.
3"1 or 4" barrel?
@@ThirdEyeThriving the 3.1"
My wife shot the Shield EZ and she sold that to buy the Shield Plus after she shot mine. She used it for a pistol 1 training class and qualified on the range to get her CCW (we have a mandatory shooting proficiency test where I live).
No regrets with the Shield Plus 3.1" barrel.
@@ThirdEyeThriving depends on whether you want optics and the extra size and weight doesnt bother you
Have a Ruger 57, Security nine. Thinking of a Trifecta with the Max 9.
I have the 57 & Security 9 as well. I have.the Max on layaway. Pick it up in a few weeks.
I already own the Hellcat. Going to get the max 9 next
That's funny, I've got the other two. Our powers combined we have the full quadfecta.
I got every one of these the most recent grab was the Max 9 got it last week put about 500 rounds through it was Very impressed with How well it shot and how easy it was to pick up that front sight and it didn’t have much recoil at all looking forward to taking it to the range again I usually rotate my carry guns and been using the shield plus right now but I just ordered a holster for the Max 9 think it might be my new EDC..Still love my 43x with an s15 mag though! 🤣 🇺🇸
How has your Max 9 been since this comment?
How has your max 9 been?
I disagree that the hellcat shoots flatter then the 365. I do agree the plus shoots the best but the 365 is widely known to have have less felt recoil as the sig has a longer length rail that the slide rides on vs the hellcat
I’ve had several friends who own the 365 tell me it’s snappy. I’ve watch many videos like this one in which all the reviewers said it’s snappy. I shot a friends XL, and it wasn’t bad at all, but I buy that the standard 365 is a snappy little gun. Just an alternative pov.
@@oleboy7615 of corse it’s snappy but relative to the other micros like the hellcat it’s noticeably less snappy
@@boredricanveteran9433 That isn’t what I’ve heard. What I’ve heard most is both the guns are about the same, but it’s a subjective issue at best.
@@oleboy7615 well respectfully I own every micro gun and it’s 100% the case for me and many many CZcams videos just look up p365 vs hellcat and you’ll find countless videos saying the same ex act thing
@@boredricanveteran9433 Again, making it a subjective issue. 🤷🏻♂️
The plus 4" shoots like some full sized duty handguns.
Excellent presentation. 👍☕😎
Hey! TY! Gud vid, gud info, jus wat I wanted 2c! Gud visual comparison. I don HATE any particular gun/manf, but I seek the 1. MOST comfortable for the job 2. ANY Bonus perks for the job. Ya'll explained well. TY!
Which one is your favorite??Thanks
Love my Sig 365. Haven't shot the S&W yet, that would probably be my 2nd choice.
Shot the hellcat, 365 and plus this morning for the first time. It seems from all the videos I've watched that I'm the only one who has an issue with the hellcat trigger pinching my finger. I shot it first and after 4-5 rounds it felt uncomfortable but still finished 2 mags. I also shot it the worst of the 3. The plus ended up being my best shot and even shot it better than the other 2 single handed with my off hand
P365 for summer pocket carry due to its shorter length and the Shield for appendix carry in the spring, fall and winter. The shield has less recoil than the P365. Waiting on the Hogue grip for my P365 to help thicken the grip to help with the recoil. I shot the Hellcat and felt it was snappier than the P365. Didn't like the feel of it.
All good options I think, but I’ll stick with my under-appreciated FNS9c. 12+1 and also takes 15 & 17 round mags. Hellcat next.
Its considerable heavier,but I like it also!Thanks😊
Couldn't find your rumble channel
Walther Pps m2,Cz p10s, and Cz Rami 2075 are surprisingly good shooters as well.
I have the p10s and the Rami 2075. I love them both. I have a Hellcat...MEH! It's small. Easy to conceal. Other than that. Not too impressed. I just got the Shield Performance Center. I can't wait to shoot it.
My Glock 26 was a micro 9 before micro 9s were even a thing. I had +2s on all my mags since the day I bought the gun. 12+1 was only outdone by my Glock 19. 😏
The G26 is still hard to beat for overall versatility.
You're not using Glock 18 mags?
My choice is a P365XL with an aftermarket threaded barrel, cause I want the extra ballistics. The tiny bit of extra barrel does not change its concealability significantly but it does make a bit of difference with recoil control and terminal performance.
Can you pocket carry it?
@@jakeb8298 No. Maybe a 'cargo' pocket?
I have the shield plus, I'm a fairly new shooter and I shoot way better on the plus than my 9 ez.
Good comparison - thanks for posting. XXL hands and have tried a few different micros with mixed results. Owned a Shield traded for a Hellcat due to round count. May pick up a Shield Plus as I shot the Shield a little better.
Did you end up picking it up? At 6’4” i have huge hands as well. Shield Plus fits pretty well for a micro.
@@El_Scorcho_ Haven't picked one up. Want to shoot it next to the GX4 for comparison. Waiting to find an optics ready version. Don't think I'll add an optic right away, but want the option.
After a few months of debate I ended up with the shield plus. It fits my hand better and I shoot it more accurately than the others
I bought 2 shield plus and a new AR 15 in March, but had a horrible boating accident in April.
Gotta watch those random waves. Tragedy.
The favorite of yours is which one?Thanks
I went out this morning at daybreak with the Plus and the Sig it was about 30 deg with a slight headwind. I could not get the Sig in tight- I have smallish hands and almost sixty y/o. The Plus much easier grip to bring in grouping. Had a FTF right at the end of about 80 rnds using the Fed red plastic tips on the Sig. Like the Sig-don't love it-probably trade it. I'd like to give the Max a go but the PIN holding me back-lose that bad boy in all this sand and I am in a spot. Plus the Max looks like a lot of creep and reset.
From my point of view, it would have helped a lot if you had shown the kind of groups you get with each handgun. Feel is great, but accuracy matters. Thanks!
Tons of reviews on the accuracy of these 4. They all are accurate. The rest is in the hands of the shooter.
There's no meaningful difference shooting off-hand at any sort of reasonable self-defense distance. Maybe at 25 yards from a Ransom Rest you'd see groups ranging from like 3.5 inches for the least accurate of these guns down to like 1.5 inches for the most accurate, but does it really matter? No, not so much.
I think if you read the article that accompanies this video, the closing sentences indicate that they both shot the Shield (+) the best,. Not the same as seeing groupings but, can read between the lines as to results implied.
He doesn't show groups but honest outlaw was hitting steal plates at 50 yrds. I shoot my 1.0 shield better than a 365 with groups but my friend shoots better with the 365 so I think it depends on the person. I handled the plus the other day and the only nit pick I would make I wish there was little more room forward of the trigger with the trigger guards. I like my finger to slide in easier but that's about it. Probably getting a plus this year.
@@guntruth Yes, it matters to me because situations may occur where you need more pinpoint accuracy. Thanks, like the fact you put a lot of information into eight minutes.
Tried all 4 but I ultimately chose the Zev Z365 Octane. It's the perfect choice for me.
Nice vid
P365 XL is the perfect carry gun. I think the standard 365 is a bit small for most people and the XL somehow I find it better to handle and shoot.
Standard 365 on an xl frame. Some ppl are running that combo.
The 12 round mag on the P365 is the same size as the P365 XL grip. I thought I would use that more but I usually just go with the flush 10 round mag for concealability. I like having either option.
@@plmn93 legos 👍
@@plmn93 the p365 still has a shorter barrel so even with it having the 12 rounds magazine available it's not the same size as the p365 xl.
I can’t decide for one among these 4. I think I will get the least expensive one
Nice comparison. And two opinions was great. Not particularly stock line. But that was ok.
Loved the Shield 9 Plus, the Ruger Max 9 awesome, P365 Awesome & the Glock 43X awesome. The Hellcat didn't like also Hellcat had more recoil but different stroke for different folks.
Which one do u like BEST?
I love my shield fast smooth accurate easy and light to carry runs all brands of ammo smoothly love it
Thanks much.
Which one has the hardest rack pull back out of these 4?
I know the Shield EZ is by far the easiest. But my Max 9 is pretty easy. My wife uses the EZ
Good Comparison Video...
I Had A P-365 (Traded It For
A G-26/g5), I Have A Hellcat
& Now Iam Getting The Max-9...
Problem I have with micro-compact firearms? Have a hard time grabbing them from my IWB holsters. Own all of them and the one I like the least? Not for reliability or shooting reasons, it's how the breakdown to clean. The Ruger Max 9 takedown pin is easy to use, especially when your out in the field. The Blocker Lifter and Spring are also known to break, in as little as a few rounds fired through it. This is a known issue with Ruger and haven't come up with a permanent solution! The Ruger Max 9 would be the last firearm I would grab, if I had other choices.
I would have liked to seen some slow fire shooting for groups to judge the accuracy of each. And I know Ammo is scarce, but do they feed JHP?
There's no meaningful difference shooting off-hand at any sort of reasonable self-defense distance. Maybe at 25 yards from a Ransom Rest you'd see groups ranging from like 3.5 inches for the least accurate of these guns down to like 1.5 inches for the most accurate, but does it really matter? No, not so much. Yes, in the full reviews of all of these guns we shot hundreds and hundreds of rounds of mixed ammo through each, including multiple brands and weights of hollow points, and all of these guns are absolutely reliable.
@@guntruth If accuracy is not important to you then I think I need to watch other videos. Ciao
Every pistol is as accurate as u can be. Only in a rest are u going to be able to tell the difference between the barrels and different types of bullets. I do get what your saying though. It would be more entertaining to watch what they were shooting at. But this was just a comparison for what they were feeling between them. What one were u thinking about as the better shooter? I'm thinking that shield plus with that grip would be nice. I carry a 43x. U?
Which one out of the 4 would you recommend for the first time gun owner?
Definitely, the Shield Plus. Or the Shield EZ...
*slaps table*
This baby can fit so many micro 9s on it
Which do you like the best??
I love my Glock 43 but the capacity is only 6 plus 1. I also have a taran tactical plus 2 extension but I ordered the shield plus anyways !
I still enjoy my G43 as well, and I carry it daily. I added a Magguts +2 to mine. It keeps the grip really short and conceals well. Has proven 100% relatable.
G43 is still one of the best cc micro 9. 7+1 or 8+1 is good enough for a cc pistol. I cc my g42 daily for 7 years now. Stilll my fav. I have p365 also.
Which would u keep,if u could,only have one?Thanks
The plus fits better for folks with large hands. Gotta test it out before u buy.
Hellcat is very snappy. Hellcat is out the window
p365 is still the smallest wonder 9. very comfortable for cc. the lost and forgotten 43x with s15 mags while larger has a full yet slim grip which is less comfortable until its time to draw and fire. and i dont carry any gun without a red dot any more. pistol, rifle, shotgun, pellets, i dont care needs a red dot.
Nice guns to review.im for the hellcat .I wanted that one but ,,( not on the roster here in cali)..
But why? ...
Why live in California?
I got my shield plus about 3 weeks ago right outside philly, great buy it’s my edc shoots like a breeze
Hey big yoppa, where'd you find it? I'm outside Philly too and in the market. Can I ask what you spent?
@@toddlustine983 I live in philly, I had to travel out there to buy it I don’t remember the place, but I spent a little over 600 for it
@@toddlustine983 spot for guns in trevose got a couple of em too
I love me 365 . One of the only ones that have a 50 round drum for
Shield Plus FTW. Who’s with me?
They are all very nice CCW guns. However, even the Sig P365 is a pretty large pistol if you want to pocket carry. If carry will be inside the waistband the larger S&W will not be at a disadvantage as it is still very flat and will conceal in an inside the waist band holster about as well as the others
Is the new Taurus GX4 good enough to be in this conversation?
The Ruger & Smith and Wesson. Then I would have to decide. Probably end up getting both.
I'm just glad the "micro 9" fever has got a bunch of people selling off classic handguns, shotguns and rifles at bargain prices to fund their new micro 9s.
In the past few months I have gotten SUPER deals on a High Standard Supermatic Citation, a S&W Model 17-5, a Savage Model 99, a Winchester Model 63. A Remington Model 1100 and a Winchester Super X Model 1, all at prices about half what they were about 6 months ago.
I have plenty of carry guns.
I may buy one of these in the future, when the "fever" and prices come down.
Have 3 of them but not the Hellcat. Shot one before but didn’t really like it. But the others are awesome. The Max 9 really shocked me. High quality gun that shoots great. What can you say about the P365 and The Shield. The two best there is! The Glock 43x is great gun also.
I have the p365, cat, and the shield 2.0. I prefer the cat personally.