You Asked, We Compare: Springfield Hellcat vs S&W Shield M2.0
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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2020
- A few of you asked us to compare these two, so here you go! The Springfield Armory Hellcat (only available in 9mm, so far) and, deep breath, the Smith & Wesson M&P Shield M2.0 9mm. We hope you enjoy!
The grips on the Hellcat are from Handle-It Grips, available on Amazon and also on their website.
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Can't get over how much I love the hellcat
Same, just ordered my second one... the osp version!
Why don't you marry it then!
same here
You are SO thorough.. I’m huge on reviews and comparisons. You go over every thing, even the little stuff.. you’re definitely top tier 👏🏻👏🏻
I paid $549 for the FDE HELLCAT in mid-September 2020 Love it
I payed the same for the black osp with viridian laser and holster package. Had to get used to it, I used to carry a 4.5 xdm. Hellcat feels premium and sometimes can't even feel the weight.
This is a perfect review! Exactly what I needed to know. Thank you so very much, Sir! 🙏🤩
Thank you.
Good news everyone: S&W just released the Sheild Plus which has 10+1 and 13+1 capacity. Its a little bigger than both these guns though
I have one on the way, review coming soon.
I'm 6'4 with fairly large hands and I personally love the Hellcat grip more than the Shield, the squareness of it feels better in the hand vs the shield as that one feels rather pointy in the hand which I'm not a fan of. Plus with the extended 13rd mag in the hellcat or pinky extension on the 11rd mag I have a comfortable 3 finger grip and still super easy to conceal and I'm one of them skinny lanky folks where it's hard to conceal on strongside where I prefer to carry.
How has it been holding up for you, bro?
The 45 acp m&p shield 2.0 is very accurate, surprisingly low recoil for a small 45. The trigger is also very good, under 6#. It has become my primary carry.
I have both and I'm more accurate with the M&P, but the Hellcat is an easier carry. I forgot to mention my Shield has a laser so that may be a bit of a cheat on accuracy but the Hellcat is a bit more "snappy" than the Shield. Love them both though.
Love the grips on the Hellcat!
Thank you, they are nice to look at and use.
girlfriend just bought the osp version amd loves it. i have the M&P 2.0 9c with 4in barrel and love it.
Great review very informative - honest opinions and facts
Thank you.
I wish Smith and Wesson would update the Shield to compete with the Hellcat and 365. They would have a real winner on their hands if they did that, especially if it used the same slide and therefore fit all the existing shield holsters!
Running Bear thats exactly what I did and I like it a lot! It’s the reason I haven’t bitten the 365 hook. I was just saying that if they made a shield that held 12 or something... it would be game over.
@@runningbear6391 I completely agree. Costs half as much but shoots twice as well. I've shot the 365, (not the Hellcat), and it was not for me, even though I really wanted to like it. The Shield, to me, is very easy to shoot and point intuitively. I'm stubbornly sticking to the shield.
they did 4 inch red dot version
@@heeebeeegeeebeee I have the shield in .40 and the Hellcat! I love both equally! I'm always going to love my smith and wesson though, because I grew up on them
Agreed, practice and shot placement far outweigh capacity.... unless there are multiple assailants.
I love my hellcat just got it last week
People complain about the hinged trigger on the M&P. But they never say anything about the one on the FN. Just like they say, they don't like the grip safety on an XD, but they love a 1911. It's just weird. But anyway, I have both of these guns, and really like them. I rotate them Sping & Summer. But in the winter, I rotate my XD40 sub compact. And my Glock 27, Gen 5.
Grabbed a Hellcat. My buddy got a Shield several months back. Now he wants my Hellcat, but they seem to be harder to find.
Nice review as always guys. I just have never gotten along with the Shield. Thanks for the video.
Thank you. The originals were hateful little beasts, if you haven't tried an M2.0 yet you may be surprised.
Hammer Striker I may have to try one then. My local range has them for rent.
@@HammerStriker I put an Apex trigger upgrade in my Shield 2.0 9mm, it transforms the gun; also a green light grip activated TR4 laser; it would take a lot for me to part with the piece now...
Good comparison review 👍
I own and collect firearms. I do have both of them and I like the way both pistols shoot. I love the M&P Series but I really like the Hellcat much more.
@J D I like the Shield too. Have a couple of them as well. I bought the ShieldEZ for my wife but she carries the Hellcat
@ J D May I ask what 3 Springfields you have? I'm picking up a xdm 4.5 .45 tomorrow and was just wondering if have one?
@@davidb.turknett4447 I have the Hellcat, Original, OSP, & RDP. I also have all the XDM & XDS. My wife loves her XDS .45 with the Crimson Trace Green Laser sights but this year her everyday carry is her new Hellcat 9mm. She loves how it shoots and feels on her hand and I just ordered eight 15 round Mags so we have extra mags she can use at the range for practice.. You will love the XDM 45. I put over 1,000 rounds downrange with no issues or malfunctions. Have fun, stay safe..
@J D Thanks JD. I have a sar9 and canick tp9sf elite sc and today will be picking up the Springfield 45.
@@MrShou5 Thanks Paul. Picking up the Springfield xdm 4.5 .45 today. New to guns and trying to get used to carrying a canick elite sc. I have a sar9 in the night stand which the 45 will replace.
45 shield has been my favorite pistol over all others, nothing will part me from it
Blake got my 45 shield a few months ago and I really like it. It shoots like a bigger gun and disappears while concealed
i think its my next shield but it will be the 4.6in version.
or the full size
I think a fair comparison will be the M&P 9C. The 9C is a double-stacked magazine and a capacity of 12.
I’m looking at both & your video helped me decide on the Shield. I had an early model that was sold to a friend who refuses, wisely, to part w/it. The difference in price also makes the Shield more attractive. Good video.
Thank you.
I have a P.C.Shield M1.0 9mm and love it
Great video as always 👍 you also get night sights for the extra money on the hellcat
Well, night front sight...
Love my Hellcat. Use flush 11 round for concealed carry Have the 15 extended magazine for open carry. Can't beat the size and compacity
So it looks like the Hellcat with the extended mag would be as tall as the Shield with the flush fit mag. 14 vs 8 for same size. Crazy. Thanks for the great video.
Thank you. The Hellcat will be thicker and heavier, but will have significantly more capacity - that will be your trade-off.
SA needs to come out with the economy version of Hellcat like they did with the 911 series.
This might be the very first time I've ever heard that a standard 3 dot sight without any fiber-optics or tritium is easier to pick up than the trijicon HD-style front sight of the Hellcat. (I'm not saying they are Trijicon HD's, but they are like them)
I would love to see the S&W Shield 3.0 come with double stack mags... that's the real negative for an otherwise awesome pistol IMHO. That and the roughness of the grips chews up your side during concealed carry if its up against bare skin. I solved that issue by taking the "bite" off the inboard side of the grip (where it touches me in the holster). Still get an excellent grip during use, because other than the thumb, my hand and fingers all use the outboard side for traction. Just my 2 cents to add to the mix. Thanks for the video.
I own the shield but I like the capacity in the hellcat. I didn't even look at the hellcat when I purchased the shield. The way the shield fit in my hand and the ergonomics just made me fall in love with it. I did buy the +2 mag extension for the mags to give me some more fire power however. The 7 rounder now holds 9 and the 8 rounder holds 10. I still feel comfortable with that capacity because it's lighter than my full size pistols and easier to conceal in the summer. And who knows I might look into buying the hellcat in the future. If capacity is ever an issue I'll just pick up some extended 12 or 15 round mags for my shield.
I like the looks of the grip on the hellcat. The web of the hand is closer to the slide which should give a higher grip and the ability to mitigate recoil. My wife had a shield and I was not impressed. That coming from a guy who carries an M&P 2.0 4” 9mm everyday.
My EDC is a P.C.Shield M1.0 9mm and i love it
What about the extra length of the grip. Does that matter much when CC'ing ?
I'm about to buy the shield as well as a 12 round magazine, probably get the plus 2 more round adapter for ybe 8 round mag also.
I want the hellcat si bad and for now as far as price,in think it's almost worth $500 cause tritium or fiber optics are a lot but the Apex trigger over a factory Hellcat wins.
The hellcat also has much more recoil.
I want one of so bad, I'm small and my frame can't handle hiding big pieces and even these are barely good enough for shorts and a T..
Is it snappier because the grip is shorter or the higher bites barrels in a Springfield compared to the m & p 9
@@ashsherman the extra size on the grip helps me...it shoots like a full size gun...I can get my whole hand on it...and it fits in my front pocket...I have a Performance Center M1.0 and the trigger is excellent....good luck
Got bored one day and took my calipers to my HC barrel and Shield barrel. To my surprise, the HC barrel was a tad longer even though it is advertised as .1" shorter.
I want the Hellcat for its shorter grip to prevent printing when concealed carry.
I own both the shield in 40 cal tho can’t wait for hellcat to come out in 40 too both are great guns tho they fit very well in the hand with flush or extended mags and I have large hands
I would have liked to see you put some calipers on those grips to see who is closer to advertised size.
Great comparison. I do love my Hellcat, but I will have to disagree with you on the trigger. There is a significant amount of creep in mine before you hit the breaking point. Creep is not a deal breaker in a defensive pistol, but it does hinder fine pinpoint accuracy. I too shoot the Shield 2.0 better because of the more predictable trigger not the ergonomics. I plan on purchasing an Apex trigger for my Hellcat to improve the predictability of the break not to lower the pull weight. I know PRP makes a great trigger as well but it also lowers the pull weight to 3.5 pounds which in my opinion is far to light for a carry piece.
Thank you. The Apex is an excellent trigger and it eliminates the potential of the "side-pull" issue (which I have never actually had happen naturally, I have had to do it intentionally to see that it can happen).
I would like to see you review the FN 509 Compact.
I will add that to our list, may be a bit with current conditions before we actually see one.
I never put a that much pressure on my pinky when gripping with my dominant hand. (with a full-size pistol)
The Hellcat looks amazing. I have a Shield. Thanks for the Video
Smith and Wesson really did the job with the new Sheild plus best shooter out of all the micro compacts it also holds 13 plus one now.
I got both but i got the first gen shield and to conceal i hot to say the shield is better because of that single stack even with the longer mag which is my daily driver it conceals much better. But i like them both i just like the shield better.
Your. Wrong wrong wrong. I own both guns and hell cat better
So the shield with the flush mag is 4.5" tall and with the extnded mag it somehow shrinks in height to an amazing 4.2sh. Wish sig and springfield would learn that trick
i have a shield 1.0 with apex trigger, talon grips, +2 magguts, ameriglo i dot pro sights and tlr 6 flashlight, and also have thr hellcat, i love the capacity of the hellcat, but the shield feels bettee on the hand and i shoot better with the shield, i still rotate them as my daily carry pistols
Good comparisons, but a couple of things. The M&P is actually over 20 ounces. Sometimes S&W combines the pistol and magazine weight, but sometimes they don't. My Performance Center M&P9 M2.0 Shield with its lightening cuts and ported barrel is 20.3 ounces with an empty flush magazine. A regular Shield is likely 20.4 or 20.5 ounces).
Second, the Hellcat is not double the capacity. I admit, 11+1 is significantly better than 7+1, 8+1, or 9+1 (depending on weather one chooses a Magguts option), but personally this wasn't a selling point for me when considering the SA Hellcat or SIG P365. We all know accuracy goes out the door in a gunfight, so marginal differences at the range can morph into exponentially greater discrepancies in a real life situation (as they usually do when you have to quickly acquire a firing grip under stress). Therefore, I bought my second Shield earlier this year (my first one was in 2014) keeping this in mind.
In other words, I am more concerned with what is going to happen with the first 8 rounds coming out of a pistol than any subsequent rounds after that. Statistically these first rounds are so much more important than the additional rounds of these other similar size pistols that it actually becomes silly people jumped on the P365 bandwagon even when the pistol was obviously unproven and having problems. I'm not knocking the Hellcat or the P365 at this point, but I do knock selecting those pistols for their capacity if something like a Shield is easier for them to shoot well under stress. Between the ergonomics of the grip and the additional 2-3 ounces, the Shield shoots better for me, and likely for many, so I can't justify another few rounds at the sacrifice of performance in a real-life defensive situation.
I think the S&W is still a very nice ,well built, American made firearm. The quality is outstanding in my opinion, especially for the price point. The ergonomics just feel natural to me. I don't think the hellcat is worth the extra money for what you are getting. Just my opinion of course.
The real difference between the two, and what sets the hellcat apart from the sig p365 as well is the quality control. See the chipped emblem on the s&w symbol? Their laser engraver has been having issues for literal years and has lead to sharp scalloping and chipping engravements like that. Also the trigger is an absolute crapshoot on them. Mine is currently 8 lbs and hasn't broken in over 1000 rounds in.
compared to the shield the hellcat is a bit snappy, but in a good way. Cant really explain it but you get used to it pretty quick. It definatly takes more pressure on the support side to keep it on target.
Anyone who makes the argument the hellcat is a better won’t get a fight about it from me, fair enough. Granted I don’t own a hellcat and have only held one once and seen videos and am very biased, I’d to shield all day any day. I’m a smith and Wesson fan boy and the shield is just a beautifully designed great looking and capable firearm. I don’t need anything else.
Thank you for the video! For the price, would it make sense to compare Hellcat to Performance Center version of the Shield to make it more equal?
your right
I disagree.
I understand cause to upgrade you are still gonna spend $500 but let's focus only on how they shot, not true $ value. You can get a 12 round mag for the shield too, or a 2 round upgrade kit that's a mod to the mag.
So if you downgraded the hellcats sights, trigger stays the same, cause I know for fact Springfield Factory triggers are a little bit squishy but they are just fine,
SHIELD trigger isnt that wonderful either but Springfield factory wins over 1st Gen Shield. The 2.0 has newly designed trigger.
As far as actually shooting ybe pieces, it was obvious that with same size barrel.that the Springfield had major snap or recoil while the shield he was able to shoot faster and more accurately.
Both suffice as far as out of commission or death shots .
Really I say for the moment, and as an avid Springfield fanatic who wants a Hellcat so bad to get the shield at half the price. (Just buy a 12 round magazine for $25.)
, I am convinced now to wait for trigger and striker issues to be fixed on the hellcat and possibly inorivenr it's like a ported barrel.
Performance center shield isn't the same size as the hellcat, it's more full sized.
Good review. Thanks. How would you compare stiffness of slide? Might be a factor for my daughter.
Thank you. They are pretty similar, a little on the stiffer side but not ridiculous. The Shield EZ (both 9 and .380) offers and extremely light slide with a slightly bigger overall footprint.
I have both, but I’m more accurate with the Shield.
Shield was dead on right out of the box while the Hellcat likes to shoot low/left for me.
Use a little more finger on your trigger and squeeze smooth. Should solve that.
As much as I love my M&P shield first GEN 9 you cannot argue with the capacity of the hellcat and the P365. I am definitely looking towards one of those guns when the world becomes sane again
Same boat. Was going to start pimping out the shield with slide cuts, magguts, trigger etc... But my buddy got the 43x with the new 15rd mags. Compared his 15rd glock to my 8rd shield and they were the same damn size. Needless to say I will not be pimping out the shield and saving for a hellcat
Hey since u know so much about guns seth why dont u do a video on that shield u claim to have on everyones videos. And u know so much about videos. I think u live in your moms basment and troll vids. Make a vid and prove me wrong.
Absolutely LOVE THE HELLCAT
My shield has been nothing but problems. It’s currently with smith and Wesson. I hope it comes back working flawlessly. But I’ll probably sell it regardless.
What's wrong with it?
I want the grips on hellcat
I have the shield in .40 and its definitely not the most fun thing to shoot. Not for the weak handed or limp wristed. Its pretty good for a 6’1” 300 lb guy like me
Bought a Hellcat yesterday. Should have done more homework. It's basically the same size as my shield. I already hate the trigger. Apex trigger on the way. I keep wanting to like Springfield's polymer pistols (I've owned a XD-S & XD-E), but comparing it to my shield, about the only way the Hellcat beats it is magazine capacity. Bought the shield- performance center for $499 ($399 after rebate) a couple years ago. Ported barrel. Night sights. Good trigger with clearance for a gloved finger. Hellcat- no rear night sight. Cut for an optic. Has an accessory rail which is basically useless because finding a holster which accommodates accessories is virtually impossible (unless you go custom). It's cut for an optic. So... the gun was $569... plus $80 for a trigger fix- hopefully. Worth it for an extra $250?
Gotta know where you got that hellcat thing on the grip. Did it come with the after market grip?
Yes, it is a cutout in the grip with a colored square you can put behind it (or not, your choice).
I shot a Hellcat (with the 13 rd mag)2 weeks ago and it had a lot more muzzle climb than my wife's Shield 1.0 with the 8 rd mags with Maggutz 2 rd extender. The Hell cat also rubbed a blister on both my wife and I on my thumb knuckle.
I rented the Hellcat and the Glock 43x to see which of the two I’d buy. I enjoyed both guns, but I bought the Glock because the Hellcat had more recoil and was harder to get follow up shots off as fast (at least for me it was).
Again, I think the hellcat is a great firearm. But I agree that it has more muzzle flip than it’s competitors.
I would like you to compare the s&w plus 13+1and the czp10s 12+1
I don't currently have a P10s but would do the comparison if I ever end up with one.
How does the racking ease compare?
Which one is your favorite?
Love my hellcat. Would love to shoot the shield too!
M&P Shield is a fantastic weapon Dependable accurate I've carried one for years I switched it out for my Hellcat and I love the Hellcat I once in awhile carry a LC380 when my arthritis is acting up it's all a matter of personal preference that's just my opinion
The shield when it came out was known as the small gun that shoots like a big gun. Soft shooting for it’s size and very intuitive to use. With the updated 2.0 grip texture and trigger, it is a dream to shoot. You’ll like it if you try it
I've never been intrigued by the M&P. Any weapon that has a plastic hinged trigger I'm just not interested in.
You guys need to appreciate the fact that the hellcat comes with a highly polished feed ramp.
My M&P 45 is my favorite gun to shoot.
Where did that green logo come from? My wife's doesn't have this...
By talon wraps
The .40 shield is great!!!
You keep saying “noticeable” difference in capacity. I believe what you mean to say, and hopefully aren’t avoiding saying, is that the capacity difference is significant.
And it is. Other than both are excellent firearms, they really aren’t apples and apples comparable.
I have enjoyed your presentation though and have been enlightened. I thank and appreciate this video. It’s only fair to emphasis that.
Thanks
How so...
@@UrMomGoes2College hey Rusty. Without watching the review again, my recollection is that the M&P is 8 rounds total capacity out of the box, 9 with extended mag. The Hellcat is 12 and 14 respectively. That's 50% increased capacity. To me, that's significant, not merely noticeable.
I wasn't condemning, simply responding to the degree of accuracy of the description.
And it's in lieu of that difference that I opined that they weren't apples to apples comparable. I don't think there's any argument and certainly concede that they are both excellent concealed carry firearms.
"Only fair to emphasize (corrected) that," is part of the sentence of appreciation. After noting my thoughts on similarity, I wanted to emphasize that the video was educational, entertaining and that I thank Hammer and everyone who goes to the trouble to make these videos for the sake of everyone interested.
When you take into account the grouping difference, the +5 of the Hellcat seems a little less relevant to me. Despite what the spec sheet says, the Hellcat is thicker than the Shield in the real world and I'm not sure it would conceal quite as well as I know the Shield does. I'm not sure what point of the gun they are using for thickness measure.
It’s 0.01” thicker...irrelevant!
@@nicholasnemeth2215 It's important when you're wearing nothing more than a tee shirt over it in the Summer and I think it's more than 1/100 of an inch thicker. We're talking single stack vs double here. That 9mm bullet offset counts unless they make the grip walls that much thinner and I don't think they could. After having concealed both guns daily for a few months each, let me tell you, the Hellcat isn't as comfortable. The abrasive grip rubbing against your skin, the beaver tail poking you when you sit if you pelvis carry and the extra weight of +5 making your belt tension that much more important especially if you loosen it a bit to make it more comfortable to sit. I enjoyed reaching for the M&P 9 daily, but wear the Hellcat because I want that +5. You decide for yourself, but if you don't have the same amount of experience wearing the two, I hope that gives you some insight.
@@RefinerSimilitude thanks for sharing your experience!
I actually dislike shield grips, feels way too skinny, i like my hand to fill up more. granted i have longer/slender hands, so i need a bit more width to make sure my fingers arent shooting past the trigger guard too much. i really like the xds grip, it fills my hand well even being a smaller gun, im getting used to the hellcat, which is also surprisingly well sized for how small it is, it seems slightly wider but not as deep front to back, but still great
That's exactly what your girlfriend said.🤣
Throwin Rocks lmao
You said the Shield is 4.5 inches with the flush mag and 4.25 inches with the extended mag... Something clearly isn't right about that.
Also if you could have shown the height comparison with the extended mags, that would have been great. I wouldn't carry either of these without being able to get a full grip on them.
You need to compare the hellcat with a shield pro which can hold 13 rounds. And is still cheaper than the hellcat. No matter how you figure it the hellcat is a lot more money it was when they first came out and it still is. In comparison they both shoot very well and there is virtually no difference in the shooting of them and the accuracy. But like I said the hellcat is a lot more money. So I guess if money is something you want to lose then go ahead and pay more money for the hellcat.
Were did u get the grip wrap
It is a Handle-It grip, I found it on Amazon.
Shield grip to me is not as good as the hellcat. Dots got blurry on me. Thectriger I thought was horrible also felt more recoil. But that's just me
SW need to upgrade capacity, at least 10+1, for it is a big factor in this modern age, and the MP Shield is a great gun/superb shooter. On the other hand, under duress, who is going to have a perfect grip to shoot? Springfield needs to make the Hellcat just long enough to allow 3 finger control, perhaps squeeze in another round in the process.
Did you not see how much the 13 rd magazine extends the grip? Its perfect for me and I have larger hands
@@alexanderbaugher1656 If one increases capacity then one compromises concealability.
Smith & Wesson are the choice for revolver ✋ 🔫 than 🚛 🚘 matic 🔫
11 rounds vs 7 rounds in the magazine and slightly smaller.... no brainer. Glock, Smith and Wesson, and Ruger better step up their game. They are at risk of being completely overtaken by being so slow to develop new models.
Oh god, I cannot make a decision which I want 🤦
I believe the hogue grip for the Hellcat would help it fit better in your hand
I find this funny. Recently had them both out. I felt the total opposite.
Xds mod 2 vs hellcat?
XDs is overall larger with less capacity. Still a good gun but different realm. We do have an original XDs and will likely do a comparison.
My Hellcat has a thumb safety
The Shield M2.0 is eye candy and eliminated .380 consideration.
Agree to a point. Pocket carry is a challenge w/the Shield while my LCP can be carried regardless of how I’m dressed.
@@oldcop18 Considered a Bersa Thunder 380 CC because of the rounded corners but still bought the Shield.
That SW trigger is horrendous. Not because of the hinge. But that it feels like dollar store plastic.
That's why I upgraded to Apex
Running Bear lol, so Apex makes a trigger for the hellcat too. Why not compare how much better a $1000 match trigger is in the hellcat over the shield. Your argument becomes void when you start factoring in additional parts.
@@GatCat You need to shoot both. Running Bear is correct about the recoil. M&P trigger on the 2.0 is good out of the box and isn't a throw away though. If you decide to swap the trigger out the gun is amazing. The only advantage the hellcat really has is capacity. Also the stock trigger on the hellcat if you apply angled pressure will not fire no matter how hard to try and pull the trigger. None of the trigger safeties I've fired or owned have had that issue and I wouldn't put my life behind the hellcat because of that. There are some youtube videos of people discussing what im talking about.
yyyames
“...if you apply angled pressure will not fire...”
But that is *LITERALLY* what the trigger safety was designed to do. Ya know, to prevent a ND.
@@jonkR96 You're not understanding. you can have full force pressure on the trigger safety as well. There are multiple videos about this exact issue. I fully understand the argument you're trying to make but no trigger safety I have or have seen works this way.
i disagree on the front site of the hellcat fuzzing out. Even in your video it’s twice as bright as the Shield.
There are 3 models of the hellcat... they just don't advertise it.. (10 round mag low capacity hellcat) really made for areas with stricter laws is what I was told.. found that out the hard way... dont be fooled by some of these gun shops ...
Has Springfield resolved the binding trigger issue with the Hellcat? The problem was if sideways pressure is applied the trigger will not fully depress, no bang. So if you have fat fingers or you are stressed it is possible the pistol can fail to fire.
Don't know about an official fix, but there is a video that shows you how to fix it in 10 minutes. You just need a needle file. Worked for me. It's impossible to lock the trigger with sideways force now.
JKC
It’s called a “trigger safety” for good reason.
It’s doing exactly as it was designed to do.
I’ve never had mine lock up when shooting, simply because I don’t pull sideways on the trigger.
File it down if you don’t like it.
It is doing exactly what it's designed to do. But yes it's easy to fix
SW all day 🖤🖤💛💛
Springfield hell 🐱 most certainly!!!!
Answer: the Sig P365
The hellcat is a handful to shoot in a small package.
👍👍
Thank you.
The Hellcat is an amazing gun, well thought through and great quality, but the grip feels like a candy bar. The shield feels like a gun. If extra rounds aren't needed, the shield wins in nearly every category.
Lot of recoil for a subcompact
I love the Shield but do wish it held more rounds
lies
Helllcat is a nice gun but I just trust the reliability of the shield more. I can comfortably carry 10 rounds with a shield and I'm happy with that. If I want more rounds I will use a decent sized compact double stack like a glock 19. Also the name hellcat may get you into more trouble if you ever have to use your gun in a self defense situation.
If i was going to buy one of this two, i would buy the P365 from Sig Sauer😂
Bullet to the head doesn't care how many rounds your mag Carries. Why not just get a full size if you want to carry more? Either way both are American brands, so both are good!
😂 😂 😂 the hellcat is an HS H11, from Croatia. NOT 🇺🇸. thankfully.
I stopped buying croatian made pistols on the first round of HS2000s... They didn't get any better just because Springfield started stamping their name on them.
👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Shield 2.0 $299.99 shipped no tax and free shipping. Hellcat $499.99+ hmm. Almost 2 Shields for the price of one Hellcat?
There is a reason. You get what you pay for.
@@poerelative1877 2 for the price of one. You're correct
You're both correct. Funny how I agree with choosing the Hellcat. As an owner for instance in a fire fight, if you choose the Hellcat, you don't need to reload. It's as if you were using 2 shields at once. Hellcat > by far. Shield trigger and ergos suck. So 2 for the price and capacity of one is exactly the purpose. No comparison.
@@roguemaster007 Hahahahaha good luck when that striker breaks and you can't shoot it or when the trigger jams on you and it will. FYI you hve about a 0.00001% chance of ever being in a gun fight and if you are in a real gun fight 13-14 rounds will not be enough. Also if you know how to shoot and use the right ammo you shouldn't run out of ammo. I know LE officers who've been here for 40 years and never had to shoot anyone. I'm thinking they'd come closer to a shoot out wayyyyyyy before you ever will.
@@roguemaster007 oh, and S&W has sold over 1 million Shields and going so apparently a lot of people will disagree with you.
The grip is perfect on the Hellcat, that is if you have been a shooter for more than three weeks!
The shield has a rust problem