EXPENSIVE WINE Pt 2 - MASTER of WINE Guesses Cheap vs. Expensive Wine

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
  • It is time to talk about wine prices again. My last video on this topic kinda went viral and a few questions came up from you guys that I want to address in this video. I will also blind taste four different wines and go into more detail on how I identify quality in a wine. They are from the same grape variety but from different countries and sell at different price points. I do not know anything else about the wines and I will blind taste them to see whether I can tell the difference. Sounds impossible? Let’s find out!
    First of all HELLO to all of the new faces - I am very happy about the recent growth of this channel. If you haven’t subscribed yet, you should - it is free and is your chance to learn more about wine.
    The question I am trying to answer today is: Is it is possible to say what the price of a bottle of wine is without seeing the label - just by tasting the wine?
    In my previous video - that you should also check out - I explained the relationship between price and quality with this graph.
    As the price increases, the quality on average also increases rapidly but at some point, the quality does not change anymore even though the price can rise indefinitely. The highest price ever paid for a bottle of wine is the 1945 Romanee-Conti sold at Sotheby’s for 558,000 US$!
    The highest score any wine - including any Romannee-Conti - has ever received is 100 Points. This graph is of course a simplification because there are wines that are very cheap and get great scores and there are wines that are very expensive even though they are bad in quality like the 1974 Lafite Rothschild that currently retails for 550 US$ and got this less than glowing review from Robert Parker.
    Check out my websites:
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Komentáře • 203

  • @BatCaveOz
    @BatCaveOz Před 2 lety +63

    KOnstantin - "I'm pretty sure that I will enjoy all 4 of them tonight with dinner".
    Me - I salute you, sir.

  • @tomfeller6707
    @tomfeller6707 Před 2 lety +96

    I have a tiny winery in Oregon . I often dislike wine experts talking about thier views. But I really enjoyed this video. I very much like your detailed over on how evaluate a wine. You have very reason balanced style.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety +9

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @singlesideman
      @singlesideman Před 2 lety +36

      A tiny winery - a tinery.

    • @freedfree7933
      @freedfree7933 Před rokem

      @@singlesideman
      Tiny weaner

    • @monkeytennis8861
      @monkeytennis8861 Před rokem +9

      "I often dislike wine experts talking about their views"
      What a weird comment

    • @fshn4x4
      @fshn4x4 Před rokem +6

      @@monkeytennis8861 Or perfectly reasonable considering the bloviating BS that infects all realms of "expert" opinion...😏

  • @alech8336
    @alech8336 Před rokem

    Another super video (I am catching up with the back catalogue after recently subscribing!). Love the channel - it combines two loves - watching entertaining youtube videos and wine!

  • @andrewwebster15
    @andrewwebster15 Před 2 lety +41

    I love the channel, Konstantin, and I think this is my favourite video so far. The blind tasting that forces you to identify characteristics and share them with us is very enlightening. Nice work.

  • @markcjohnson1977
    @markcjohnson1977 Před rokem

    Nice job Konstantin. Great analysis, I enjoyed your commentary.

  • @daveanderson7304
    @daveanderson7304 Před 2 lety

    Hello Konstantin, I really enjoy your channel and your manner of discussing wines (thank you You Tube algorithm). I am a native Oregonian and enjoy our Pinot Noir and Italian Barbaresco. But I was very happy to hear you mention the Arhtal, an area I visited often when I lived in The Netherlands. I enjoyed many hikes down the Arhtal and was introduced to their Spaetburgunder when I entered a small town from the hiking trail and was ushered into the fundraising event by local volunteer fireman. After many glasses, I continued by foot to Ahrweiler, and took the train back to Ahrbrueck. I found it amazing that a red wine was grown so far north in Germany, but that is a wonderful micro-climate. I will visit the area again and wish the people there a rapid recovery from the recent terrible flooding.

  • @solomonmengeu1003
    @solomonmengeu1003 Před rokem

    One of your most interesting videos yet Konstantin, quite educational and easy to follow. I am not a wine expert, I would put myself more in the wine geek category. I have noticed from reading Decanter, wine blogs, wine media/articles, watching CZcams videos (yours and Wine King and others) that once you go past the 50 US$/euro price point, quality isn't guaranteed or spending more doesn't necessarily get you higher quality wine. I do enjoy your clear and precise explanations and how you balance the technical and scientific aspects of wine with a fun and relaxing delivery/presentation style. Please keep them coming.

  • @pascalekaiser1396
    @pascalekaiser1396 Před 2 lety +1

    Just stumbled upon your channel. Great content and presentation. I subscribed 😄

  • @Blue28485
    @Blue28485 Před 2 lety +11

    Another wonderful session, thank you! More of these would be awesome. I think many peoples enjoy watching MWs struggle with blind tastings, not only because of the fun factor, but we can see the thought process when you are lost (vs easy straightforward puzzles) and that’s a great way to learn. Please keep these coming, I have learned a lot from your channel. (Now got to find if any good German burgundies are available in the US)

  • @robertwalendziak3216
    @robertwalendziak3216 Před 2 lety

    I enjoy the blind tastings, Pinot Noir is a favorite of mine. Your channel opens up my experiences to different wines thank you.

  • @user-bm7bj6kq9e
    @user-bm7bj6kq9e Před 2 lety +1

    Binge watching your videos. I would really like more of these :) They are fun to watch and guess along with you from home

  • @drmatthewhorkey
    @drmatthewhorkey Před 2 lety +3

    Congrats on the success of the last video. Ohhhh I want that Kopp Spatburgunder!

  • @elijahumogilevsky7004
    @elijahumogilevsky7004 Před 2 lety +4

    Very interesting and informative, as usual, thanks a lot!
    Recently I revealed to myself wines from Capo de Borja region of Spain. It's quite a long time that I became a big fan of Grenache made wines and it feels like in Capo de Borja there is pretty much value for adequate prices.
    Also, as many wine drinkers, I fell in love with Bierzo region and Mencia variety which is just incredible in value and nice in the price point.

  • @ferencmolnar6640
    @ferencmolnar6640 Před 2 lety

    Really like your channel. Exciting and useful, especially accompanied by a nice slurp. My recent "good value" pinot noir is the 2017 Domaine Joblot Givry 1er Cru Clos du Cellier aux Moines. Easily beats many Cote d'Or wines at half the price. Also we have some very nice and good value whites here in the Somló wine region of Hungary. I recommend the hárslevelű of Kolonics which I just tasted last week. It's a ridiculous bargain at around 10 Euros. Just keep on rockin Konstantin :)

  • @hjemmeis
    @hjemmeis Před 2 lety +2

    Hi Konstantin,
    First got interested in wine on youtube from Wineking, but your channel is very great aswell.
    keep it up :)

  • @gabrielealessandromansi2891

    Love this format

  • @andrewgeorge7568
    @andrewgeorge7568 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent video, really informative and fun to watch and keen to see more of these, would be really keen to see the guessing across regions and varietals. I also would love to see what R Basil suggested and get Frau Baum to join in. Also at about what value do you think that the price/quality curve levels out?

  • @ivanluk3234
    @ivanluk3234 Před 2 lety +1

    A very good video especially with the comments on price and quality relationship!

  • @leonardoaraujo8364
    @leonardoaraujo8364 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice work. Loved the video. 👍🏼

  • @distlledbrewedreviewed
    @distlledbrewedreviewed Před 2 lety +1

    Hello my friend I am so happy I've discovered your Channel. More great knowledge and entertaining coming my way.

  • @saschawelser9662
    @saschawelser9662 Před 2 lety +3

    I discovered your channel and I love it! This tasting was fun, but arguably it is not the hardest to identify Pinot Noir from your home region (which you should know by heart) and from Burgundy (which has a very distinctive taste and style). I recommend from Schloss Goldenberg (Switzerland) the 2016 Fortissimo with a unique twist on PN and their nicely balanced Chardonnay!

  • @001011101054684
    @001011101054684 Před 2 lety +2

    I love this channel! Thank you for doing these. Looking forward to more content! Can we do some remote tastings? hahaha

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you Mike! Maybe I should start doing some live streams at some point.

    • @elijapfuetza2586
      @elijapfuetza2586 Před 2 lety +1

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine that would be really cool! You could announce the wines a week earlier so everybody can go buy them.

  • @jonaskalb725
    @jonaskalb725 Před 2 lety +1

    Really cool! More or less the only content that gets me onto CZcams these days. Keep up the good work :)
    Favourite ‘everyday value’ wines are from the Scheidgen Grauburgunder and Rieslings. I’m starting to work my way into reds by starting off in Spain. Can you do a video on good reds to start off with to build a taste?
    Ps: how about an online wine academy one day? ;-)

  • @matthiaspucklitzsch449
    @matthiaspucklitzsch449 Před 2 lety +9

    My favorite value wines are the Cote du Rhône’s from Guigal and Perrin. Both below 10 Euro. Always good quality and taste.

    • @itsmederek1
      @itsmederek1 Před rokem

      You should try the 100% Syrah Cote du Rhone from Saint Cosme it is insane value for Rhone Syrah

  • @pedrobarroso8330
    @pedrobarroso8330 Před 2 lety +1

    Clos de fous(locura uno chardonnay and Latuffa pinot noir) and Cono Sur(single vineyard syrah, reserva especial riesling). Amazing value from those wines!

  • @terryhsiao1745
    @terryhsiao1745 Před 2 lety +2

    You could make this challenge much more difficult by including NZ, Argentinian, US, Canadian Pinot!. I went to Kasierstul 6 years ago for its pinot. Rotwein Mannale was one of my foavirte

  • @mattfilos2873
    @mattfilos2873 Před 2 lety +1

    Suggestion to do a video on what you do if you do not finish bottle same night, how does you opinion change next day. How can you best keep overnight. What wines stay longer after open. Thanks

  • @EricZeak
    @EricZeak Před 2 lety +5

    I really like these videos! Nice job on identifying the price points. Maybe someday I'll have a German Pinot Noir. As for value wines, it's pretty easy to find some good ones here in Sicily. The other day I had the Tornatore Etna Bianco, 10 Euro, and it was quite good.

  • @comesahorseman
    @comesahorseman Před 10 měsíci

    Well done! 👍

  • @robertallair7278
    @robertallair7278 Před 2 lety +2

    Hello Konstantin, I am one of those new subscribers to your channel. Greetings from Canada! I have watched quite a few of your videos and I enjoy them very much, and this one is no exception. To answer your question, my favourite value wines are from Spain and Portugal. I have very high hopes for the Colheita Douro by Quinta de Couquinho I bought today. It certainly was not inexpensive at $45CAD (way more than I usually spend!) but the quality should be comparable to wines costing a lot more.

  • @kentpiano2600
    @kentpiano2600 Před 6 měsíci

    Very well presented video, would like to see a little more swirling and determining - I have a very cheap Spanish blend tonite Macabeo, Moscatel, Viognier. One must appreciate every level of wine

  • @Gisbertus_Voetius
    @Gisbertus_Voetius Před 2 lety +2

    For value wine: I'll go with some grower champagnes, like Gatinois, Henriet-Bazin, or Jaques Lassaigne. I think they offer much more worth then the often overprized houses.

  • @thorfischer-olsen6504
    @thorfischer-olsen6504 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for another good episode.
    My favorite value (sub 20 euro) white is likely Wirra's The 12th Man Chardonnay and favorite value red is either Lequin's Clos Genêt or Poliziano's young Vino Nobile depending on mood and food pairing. :)

  • @mich8261
    @mich8261 Před 2 lety +3

    My favourite value wine used to be Domaine Boyar from Bulgaria. When I lived in Canada you could find it for about $5 CAD. Now, it’s often something from Portugal. I live in Rhode Island (US) where there is a large Portuguese community which means good selection from the home country!

  • @martinlouis9835
    @martinlouis9835 Před 2 lety

    Welche Rotwein-Gläser hast du in diesem Video benutzt und wo kann man die bestellen❓ Danke, und vielen Dank das du dein Wissen mit uns teilst. Klasse Video 👍

  • @evalio4476
    @evalio4476 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent video sir! You bring great knowledge and experience to us average enthusiasts. One of my favorite "value" wines would be Chateau le Puy Emilien. In Ontario it sells for about $32 which would be about $22 Eur. Herb crusted rack of lamb with that wine is like bread and butter. Keep the great content coming.

  • @tobiasschoeberl9858
    @tobiasschoeberl9858 Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice video!
    There are quite a few wines I'd say but the one where I was astonished the most was Silvaner Spätlese *** (Dreistern) trocken from Reinhold and Cornelia Schneider which sells from 9€.
    Talking red... you can really have a blast with Perrin/ Beaucastel Cotes du Rhone which sells at Lobenbergs for 8.50 € or Clos Saint Jean Chateauneuf du Pape for around 30 €.

  • @derekcontreras7494
    @derekcontreras7494 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video enjoyed it very much my best bang for the buck would have to be Malbec. Argentina as well as France especially Malbec’s from cahors.

  • @baggrabb
    @baggrabb Před 2 lety +2

    Late to this party! Loved the simple explanation about oak. And the graph. Question: at what price point does the curve start to flatten out? Assuming it’s 20 euros, more or less

    • @noir530
      @noir530 Před 2 lety

      Maybe more at about 50!

  • @thedavidj1996
    @thedavidj1996 Před 2 lety +1

    Favorite value wine would have to be The Velvet Devil, a Washington State merlot that retails for $11.99. Good tannins, juicy fruit, a little spice. Really well rounded. Great at room temp or slightly chilled. Really worth it. It’s my go it merlot. I would happily pay $25 for this wine if I had to.

  • @manueldelag85
    @manueldelag85 Před 2 lety +6

    We can find some solid argentinian malbecs under $10 here in Panamá: escorihuela gascón, finca las moras and alamos are some good examples.

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli Před 2 lety +1

      Escorihuela Gascón is an amazing wine, especially for the price. I’m envious, because here in Chile it’s rare as hen’s teeth and also expensive.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety

      Yes, that is true!

  • @Eoin1082
    @Eoin1082 Před 2 lety +1

    Just found your channel. Really enjoying the videos. Sharpie noises are 🤤🤤🤤😂😂

  • @matteomelfa
    @matteomelfa Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks.
    I’m a stronger believer of the blind tasting and all the brain work connected with it.
    I love it! Gets my as excited as a child to work at the different components.
    Just today I did ask my boss to do more of these activities for our team.
    Have a good week end Teacher!
    By the way, you have to guess right 36 wines out of 36? How is it even possible..... You are a wolf! :)

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks, You have to identify them all as closely as possible. You can make a few mistakes but you need to be close.

    • @matteomelfa
      @matteomelfa Před 2 lety

      Konstantin Baum - Master of Wine I get it.... Massive training.... But this is the best part of our job I’d say, I really like to be a sort of detective and use all the logic possible in order to narrow more and more the final answer....
      have a good day Teacher!

  • @hs89075
    @hs89075 Před 2 lety +1

    Favorite value wine: Manincor Cassiano, it's a Bordeaux blend style wine from Südtirol.

  • @dudeumberto
    @dudeumberto Před rokem

    My best priced Qualifying wine is the Chateau Lagrange st Julien. As it is a third Grand Cru Classè but in taste beats many second grand crus

  • @jameswingad3212
    @jameswingad3212 Před 2 lety

    Value I tend to find easiest in Iberia. Elias Mora is a really good quality wine for the price and is both a great stand alone as well as pairing well with spicy, meaty dishes.

  • @joeicity
    @joeicity Před 2 lety

    I live in the USA and can find what I believe are good quality Pinot Grigio wine frequently from Friuli and old vine Zin usual from California for the 10 USD each. Between these two varieties/styles I can pair well with most of the foods I enjoy and these are therefore my go to wines. Any tips on similar wines that would be fun to try? I enjoy trying and learning.

  • @mf654
    @mf654 Před 2 lety +5

    All Spätburgunder/Pino Noirs by Meyer Näkle (Ahr Germany) are underrated... All of them, it's incredible, are still underrated... And a lot of Ahr wines are top notch internationally, yet wft low in price.

    • @_Seppixx
      @_Seppixx Před 2 lety +3

      For me Germany is making so many things right at the moment. Especially the young producers try new things and make it even more interesting :)

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety

      They are still cheap compared to other regions.

  • @sommelierramon
    @sommelierramon Před 2 lety

    Happy, du bist von Baden...soo gut , liebe Kolleg, Baden hat doch positiv point ja ? Fuer mich schon! With fun and pleasure !

  • @c.s.660
    @c.s.660 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you make a Video about all the different ratings, How it is rated and which rating should you Trust the Most ?

  • @lezamac6
    @lezamac6 Před 2 lety

    Can you do a blind test between Bordeaux wine vs napa wine vs australian wines?

  • @Ildskalli
    @Ildskalli Před 2 lety +1

    The best local offer that I can think of is the Aromo Viognier 2020, a wine that can sometimes be found for less than 3 USD per bottle, and compares favorably to whites costing 2-3x as much.
    Internationally, Château Les Bertrands make inexpensive but quite good wines in Bordeaux. Their Blaye 2018 is very sophisticated for its cheap (€6,80) price.

  • @miriya99
    @miriya99 Před 2 lety +2

    I can't say that I've had many good Pinot Noirs under $20...those Spatburgunders must be a hot deal for locals! I live in California - close to many PN vintners but anything that's cheap is acidic, out of balance, dilute nonsense. I've had some Chilean PNs under $20 that were worthwhile though!

  • @barbarabird3827
    @barbarabird3827 Před 2 lety +1

    Hmmm
    QPR - Quality/Price/Ratio: My language..but - a favorite?.
    Trapiche Broquel Malbec
    Mezzacorona Teroldego Rotaliano
    Hermanos Lurton Tempranillo (Toro)...
    Thank you for introducing me to BLIC
    I'd not encountered it before. (Length has the advantage of being easily measurable- caudalies & all that)
    I'm relatively new to your channel- have you already done something in detail on these 4 factors?
    I'm not sure this fits your profile, but I'd very much like to hear your take on the quip "There are no great wines - only great bottles "
    (Or is that the real meaning of "consistency"?)

  • @Erlendfotball99
    @Erlendfotball99 Před 2 lety +1

    Please taste Chateau Panet Saint-Emilion Grand Cru 2016 and Winiveria Saperavi 2018

  • @speckledjim_
    @speckledjim_ Před 2 lety

    Yeah the curve of diminishing returns is a real issue

  • @FabioAdler
    @FabioAdler Před 2 lety +1

    Hello Kons, at the moment my best value wines are from Bonterra, organic and biodynamic winemakers in Mendocino County, California. Usual retail price here in the UK is £12 a bottle. I've tried 3 of their wines: Chardonnay, Merlot and Cabernet Sauvignon. Greetings from London 🇬🇧

  • @bbranco010
    @bbranco010 Před 2 lety +1

    Great Video!
    Konstantin, What are the glasses you use in your videos?

  • @hocheye
    @hocheye Před 2 lety +2

    Fave value wine Sibiris Carmenere Undurraga 2017 from Chile!

  • @ElementsMMA
    @ElementsMMA Před 2 lety +1

    The best value Pinot Noir comes from Sancerre, and Reuilly. You can easily find wine equal and better than Burgundy for a third of the price.

  • @johanneshougaard8045
    @johanneshougaard8045 Před 2 lety +1

    The Kopp Sonnenberg (2014) retails at around 46€ here in Denmark. That's pretty comparable to a Louis Jadot Pernand-Vergelles 1er cru. I might give it a shot in a pinot tasting one day though...and by the way, my favorite value wine currently is the Alias pinot noir from Napa valley at 8€ - it's more or less a coca-cola with a bit more acidity and a hint of tannins but loads of vanilla, coconut and cherry sweetness

  • @rudidelport8324
    @rudidelport8324 Před 2 lety +1

    My suggestion for a best value wine:
    KWV Mentors Grenache Blanc.
    Its insane that you can buy a wine in this iconic winery's flagship range for this price. (488rmb in China, one seen it cheaper in South Africa).
    Its amazingly fresh with so much character

  • @FelixHaenssler
    @FelixHaenssler Před 2 lety

    Hi Konstantin, what would be your price where the curve in your picture flattens (price to quality) ? Lets say for german wine. My opinion would be around 50 Euros, but i’m no master;) thanks for your answer

  • @handwedge11
    @handwedge11 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your channel - keep up the good work!
    If you had $250 US to spend on a cellar-worthy bottle, what would you buy? Just curious of your taste preferences.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety +1

      Hard to say. One bottle? A great Bdx or classic Napa Cab maybe

    • @handwedge11
      @handwedge11 Před 2 lety

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      Interesting. Thanks. Have you tasted many Canadian wines (aside from Ice wines), specifically in the Okanagan region? They’re doing some beautiful things with Bordeaux varietals in the south (where it’s quite hot) and Pinot noir and Riesling to the north.

  • @tarawalker7193
    @tarawalker7193 Před 2 lety +6

    Watching while playing with a Trader Joe's Montepuliciano and Papa John's pizza! LOL

  • @henriknilsson7730
    @henriknilsson7730 Před 2 lety +2

    Great videos and super informative, which arguably is the most impressive thing about you. I've binged all of your videoes so far, even the German ones. You are my new favorite youtuber. I'd love for you talk more about Mosel wines or do more blind tastes with German whites, they're super intriguing in my opinion.

  • @pgreen0001
    @pgreen0001 Před 2 lety +1

    If I’m talking about what I can get on military base then I like Dreaming Tree Crush which is a blend for about 14 USD. If we are talking about what I can get locally or online through say Vivino there are quite a few Primitivo’s I enjoy but I’m really enjoying Biscardo’s Enigma which sells for around 14 Euros.

  • @lizzvictory932
    @lizzvictory932 Před 2 lety +1

    Curious to know, if you have reviewed any Australian wines... And if you have, which is your go to Aussie wine? BTW, loving your channel.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes I have ... I would not say that I have one go to Australian wine though... Actually one of my favorites is Tyrells Vat 1 Hunter Valley Semilion because it is so special.

    • @lizzvictory932
      @lizzvictory932 Před 2 lety

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine would you be open to do an Aussie review of wines. I am originally from Sth Australia and the wine regions are massive there. Plus Victoria & WA have some great wines.

    • @tonypark9105
      @tonypark9105 Před rokem

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine There is also the Mount Pleasant Elizabeth and Lovedale Semillion from the Hunter Valley. Both fab!

  • @dirkp3480
    @dirkp3480 Před 2 lety +1

    I really like Kabinett trocken Rieslings for 6-7€ from Rheingau. For example Weingut Hirschmann. For me the best value for money in wine.

  • @classydame
    @classydame Před 2 lety +1

    Louis Jadot Beaujolais Villages is about $10 and a great easy to drink red, but also great for cooking, making wine punch, etc when you don't want to waste a $$$ wine but don't want to get a headache, either. However, if you consider $20-25 to be a value wine (which I do) you can find amazing cru Beaujolais at that price point which you can feel happy pairing with good food and serving to guests.

  • @bjornhosek9210
    @bjornhosek9210 Před 2 lety +2

    last week i've had a spaetburgunder2018 from Paul Schumacher served really cold to me with fish .... and i was simply blown away how well that tasted ! what's your view on serving (some) red wines chilled? .... btw i hope PS gets his winery going again after the horrible floods .

  • @christianhorsch135
    @christianhorsch135 Před 2 lety +1

    I do have a new favorite value-wine. It is the Stark Uelversheimer Aulenberg Huxelrebe Auslese. Amazing price/value. I was totally surprised by it.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety

      I have not tasted this wine - yet!

    • @christianhorsch135
      @christianhorsch135 Před 2 lety

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine I came back to this video today and saw my comment again. Need to add that I've been greatly disappointed by the 2020 vintage. The 2019 though was great.

  • @steffenb7966
    @steffenb7966 Před 2 lety +1

    My favorite Value Wine is the "Springfontein Ulumbaza Red" from South Africa for around 10,00 €

  • @rbasil7823
    @rbasil7823 Před 2 lety +5

    Are you going to do this with Domaine Leflaive?
    I.e. Village Level, Pucelles, Folateries and the Montrachet?. Better still, get Frau Baum to do it.

  • @apachewind76
    @apachewind76 Před 2 lety

    My favorite value wine is BEND. A cabernet sauvignon from Napa, California.

  • @Michaelhendersonnovelist1

    This price-to-quality issue has always interested me. Although I would never buy a wine more than about 20 euro, I've found very little improvement in quality as the price goes up. The chart you drew was spot on.
    I live in the Campania region of Italy, which means I drink exclusively Italian wines. Because there are only a couple of small wine shops where I live with limited selection, I buy from online retailers. These retailers have very nice search engines where I can select a price point and rating. There are a reasonable number of wines with over 90 points at around 10 euro.
    One very good wine I enjoy is Montepulciano D'Abruzzo DOP Mascoli 2021 Rupicapra, which is on sale now for 4 euro. That is probably the best wine for the money I've found, although it has no point rating.
    The best wine for the money rated by James Suckling at 91 points is Aglianico Del Vulture DOC Taglio Del Tralcio 2020 Re Manfredi, which I buy for 10.40 euro.

    • @Markinfilm
      @Markinfilm Před rokem

      Well, you are fortunate to live in Italy much like me where 20 Euro will get you a very very good wine. I think as far price point vs quality, Italian wines are very good. Now I live in Florence and I can assure you there's a difference between a Cianti Classico at 15 and even a Vin Nobile di Montepulciano, Brunello or Bolgheri at 50+ Euro.

  • @Craider79
    @Craider79 Před 2 lety

    This is all about if you are trained / used to valuing certain flavor profiles. Familiarity is basically more important than quality when it comes to a lot of tastes - and this very much includes wines. I live in Denmark and a lot of us Scandinavians have a fondness for salty "salmiak" licorice - give the same candy to someone who isn't used to it, and they will most likely spit it out. I have very rarely met anyone who wasn't used to the taste who like it... I however can ABSOLUTELY crave the taste to a point where nothing else can "replace" it.
    So you bravo for being able to taste what you were educated to taste (not meant ironically) - however - for most "normal people" expensive wines are a waste of money - especially if you don't tell them it's an expensive wine while serving it. Just knowing something is expensive massively increases the chance that people will think it's better than they would if they were not told this. - There are literally 100's of studies proving this exact point.

    • @itsmederek1
      @itsmederek1 Před rokem

      That logic could be applied to everything though. Its a waste to get an expensive car if you are not into cars as well.

    • @Craider79
      @Craider79 Před rokem

      @@itsmederek1 Nah that's not the same at all simply because if you drive in a cheap car and then drive an expensive car you - no matter who you are - can tell the difference simply because of the difference in materials and build quality - not to mention equipment level. When it comes to wine however you could take a 1000$ bottle and put it in between a bunch of 50$ bottles - and 99% of all people wouldn't notice - again - this has been tested numerous times.
      If you however tell people the price - it changes drastically! HOWEVER - again - if you then play a trick on people and place an normal "good" bottle of wine in between the expensive ones and say it's really expensive - they will most likely say it tastes really expensive.

  • @nonspecifie4351
    @nonspecifie4351 Před rokem

    2011 vintage?! that is a great price point if purchased recently.

  • @jurtrypik
    @jurtrypik Před 2 lety

    It would be also fun to include some 2 Euros wine.

  • @carlcadregari7768
    @carlcadregari7768 Před 2 lety +4

    Would be interested in your BLIC scores. And would love to see another with all new world wines, same grape, not Pinot Noir😁😁. Thanks. Great video!

  • @bor4oborisov
    @bor4oborisov Před 2 lety +1

    What about wine contests? How do you suggest taking that into consideration when choosing wine. I have tasted different great wines which didn’t won any prizes and winner wines which I don’t find good. Can you tell a trustful source for wine quality assessment.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety +1

      Great point! I am not a big fan of wine challenges and do not trust their results. I follow robertparker.com, vinous and Jancis Robinson and some others but I always make up my own mind.

  • @Winefordummies
    @Winefordummies Před 2 lety +4

    Do you find that you have better tasting days that others? I find that some days I'm great when identifying aromas and other days I feel like I've never smelt wine before and can barely pick up anything. Is it just me or does this happen to others?

  • @tonypark9105
    @tonypark9105 Před rokem

    Value wine?...I think it's hard to beat a decent Cotes du Rhone. I normally go for Guigal CdR or Parallel 45 from Jaboulet Aine. Both around the £10 mark here in England and incredibly consistent year on year. Another wine which I love and think is great value is the Pieropan Soave. It's about £16 so is still quite affordable and fabulous with food.

  • @2010pepe66
    @2010pepe66 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi, just seen your your video, i'm just an average consumer that have an interest in wine, i live in Portugal and here we can find wines at 10€ that are excellent, 10 to 20€ it starts to be dificult to make the diference between the best ones(great quality overall), over that price i think its only for specialists or professionals, can you please explain in what tipe of range consumers are the wines you taste, thanks for the videos and good tasting.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing! I taste everything but most of the wines I DRINK are between 10 and 60 Euros.

    • @2010pepe66
      @2010pepe66 Před 2 lety

      ​@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine thanks for the answer, what i would like to know is about quality of the wines you taste, because the relation price/quality changes as you are in diferent parts of the world, but the quality can be related wherever you are, is it not? thanks .

  • @spiritalex9397
    @spiritalex9397 Před 2 lety +1

    Difficult to name one specific wine but if its okay if I simply choose a variety an therefore I want to name "Moscato d' Asti" which I think is often to cheap for its quality.

  • @simonlandkroon
    @simonlandkroon Před 2 lety +1

    For me definitely very limoux chardonnay from anne de joyeus 12,95 for a propper chardonnay with real wood not to over the top.

  • @fuzznakano
    @fuzznakano Před 2 lety +1

    well done
    good sho bro
    mjr
    tokyo

  • @ttill92
    @ttill92 Před 2 lety +1

    I have a bottle cakebread cellars wine
    Cabernet Sauvignon from 2017 I snagged for 80$ bucks. Is is time to drink?
    It’s june2021 right now.

  • @RG-lj2sh
    @RG-lj2sh Před 2 lety +1

    Favourite value Pinot right now - G. Marquis 2017 Pinot Noir (Silver Line).
    *Yes I can’t believe I’m saying this about a Canadian wine either - please trust me and try it I don’t think you’ll regret it

  • @bor4oborisov
    @bor4oborisov Před 2 lety +1

    Villa Melnik
    Applause
    Cabernet sauvignon
    17lv. Is under 10€
    I tasted that one this weekend on place in the iconic Melnik region.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety

      I have not tasted this wine yet.

    • @bor4oborisov
      @bor4oborisov Před 2 lety

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      This producer is recognised worldwide I think for the French big reds, but the real hero there is unique local variety Shiroka melnishka. Very late ripping red, giving blush delicate wines.

  • @alexbu2323
    @alexbu2323 Před 2 lety +1

    Hello! what is the name of the glass? thank you!

  • @mr-vet
    @mr-vet Před 2 lety +1

    I, generally, love Pinot noirs. Price, definitely, does not equate to quality. I’ve tasted Pinots noirs that cost under $25 USD that are very good and I’ve tried them over that price point, and have been disappointed.

  • @RedboRF
    @RedboRF Před 2 lety +2

    danke, spasibo. do chilean wines, please.

  • @jawinter1818
    @jawinter1818 Před 2 lety +2

    This would have been better with a wider price range in my opinion. Otherwise, very nice.

  • @grammarofficerkrupke4398
    @grammarofficerkrupke4398 Před 2 lety +1

    For me, there's no question. I think Joh. Jos. Prum have put some wines on the market that taste as if they should cost 10x more than they do. I'm talking about wines that I've paid 15-30 euros for (if I remember correctly). Well, to my not very educated palate at least.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  Před 2 lety

      That is true. Have you checkt out my video on JJ Prüm: czcams.com/video/H1DGzhUQRA8/video.html

    • @grammarofficerkrupke4398
      @grammarofficerkrupke4398 Před 2 lety

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine No, I hadn't but I have now🙂 Thanks for the tip. Very interesting to get some backstory. I hope that one day, I'll get the privilege of tasting that '83 Auslese.
      I'm new here but this is already my favourite wine channel. I like the way you talk about wine. There's a hint of German empirical exactness and practicality in the way you describe wines and the wine making process. Keep up the good work!

  • @Nick08352
    @Nick08352 Před 2 lety +1

    Saint cosme/Guigal, cotes du Rhone is prettty good for around 10€

  • @jennylewis3244
    @jennylewis3244 Před 2 lety

    They were arranged in order of price and quality from (your ) left to right. You need to mix them up.

  • @spyrosandreopoulos5922

    Naoussa Alta by Decanter Rising Star Thymiopoulos.

  • @jdavis234
    @jdavis234 Před 2 lety +1

    Most of the time you do get what you are paying for, as long as you know what it is you are paying for!

  • @Boozamooz
    @Boozamooz Před 2 lety +1

    nice