EXPENSIVE WINE - CAN A MASTER OF WINE TASTE THE DIFFERENCE? THE WINE EXPERIENCE
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It is time to talk about wine prices. Why are some bottles dirt cheap while others are as expensive as a new car? And is it possible to taste the difference between the bottom shelf Discount wine and the Classed growth Bordeaux?! These are questions, that millions of people ask themselves every day while shopping for wine and I am trying to answer them today. For that, I asked my wife to prepare three bottles of wine for me that I can taste blind to see whether I can identify which wine is dirt cheap and which one is super-premium …
Wine is unique: Per definition, it has to be an alcoholic drink made from fermented grape juice. Therefore, wine is a pretty simple product that has been made in the same way for thousands of years even though scientific advances have changed the process in the last centuries.
Looking at it from this admittedly simplistic viewpoint one might wonder why there are such big differences in price if all wines are technically the same.
But what makes wine special is that two wines from the same grape variety and the same region can cost anything from 1 Dollar to 10.000 Dollars per bottle. Sure - a wine that costs 1 Dollar has a different cost structure than a wine that is priced in the super-premium segment and only a fraction of the price you pay for a bottle of wine goes to the producer. Depending on the market the bulk will go to taxes, Packaging, Retail Margin, and Logistics.
UK Wine Retailer Bibendum recently released some information on this topic: On a Retail 10 Pound bottle, only 2,70 Pound or 27% will go to wine production.
For a 5 Pound bottle, only 0,31 Pounds or 6 % will go toward the wine
There is, however, also a theoretical maximum you can spend on viticulture and winemaking. The cost heavily depends on various factors but I would say that it is difficult to have a higher production cost than 50 US$. - Jak na to + styl
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Welcome aboard!
No it isn't. People have different hobbies and spend much money on the things they like. I cannot really understand why people pay a lot of money for buying season tickets to support their favourite football team in the stadium. And there are a lot of people who think that spending 10 € on a bottle of wine is expensive. These people will never understand why someone like me sometimes spends 100 € or even more on one bottle but they don't have to. It does not matter if your passion is wine or something else if you really like it its worth the money you spend.
I agree - 100%!
Amen!!!!! 🍷
Wonderfully put
A wine merchant with many, many years of experience once told me:
1) If you think it's good wine, then it is good wine no matter what anyone else says. And,
2) if it's cheap, it's even better! 😅
Something I've tried hard to remember. 😄
Well said! I'll borrow that saying, it applies to so much more than wine.
Too true I try to be a reverse wine 🍷 snob myself
Mr. Baum, I had the honor of joining your master class and having a small chat with you afterwards in a California tasting last year, at the Opera in Copenhagen, in somewhat weird circumstances before Corona really exploded. It's awesome to see you have a channel now, it has very quickly become one of my absolute favourite channels - and I'm having quite a laugh. Learning is one thing, but learning while having fun is the best. Good job!
I remember this event well - my last international in person seminar before the pandemic! Thank you for your kund words & stay thirsty!
Expensive wine doesn't have to be for suckers, but if you aren't very experienced with wine drinking then an expensive bottle will just be a waste for the most part I would think. Interesting video.
Thanks.
I find the price to quality ratio interesting. I don't think expensive wine is for suckers. It all depends on if it's good for the price range it's in.
Thanks!
As my answer on your question: expensive wine is not for suckers. But what is a good wine? I (we) drink wine every day, and as much different wines as possible from Dutch, French and Spanish supermarkets (holidays), wine sellers and also wine producers, and we found that a very good and enjoyable wine may easily come from the supermarket in our own town, for 6 or 7 € a bottle.
For me, the joy of wine has an emotional aspect too. I love wine from a certain French region, which is not known for producing the best French wine, but the emotion accompanying the drinking of wine from that region already puts it 2 steps higher :-)
Kind regards from NL
That was a very interesting topic and video. I would say up to 50 Euro per bottle you have a correlation between price and quality than the price depends more on marketing, name, location, history, availability etc.
You also said for 75 Euros you would finde better wines … maybe this could also be a good topic - pick a good wine and than show us some wines that are at the same level of quality/ taste but are cheaper or better for the same price
Again, a great video Konstantin, and very relevant. A lot of things goes into putting a price on a wine. I live in Copenhagen, Denmark, and have worked retail for most of my adult life, and in Denmark we have this bad shopping habit, of getting a great discount on our purchases, especially with wines. Such a bad habit, that many customers actually cares more about how much they save on a wine, than how much they actually pay for the wine. This causes most wines to have inflated "normal-prices", only to be offered with a big discount, often half priced. This not only gives a wrong perception of the regular prices, this also hurts fairly priced wines, where the customers don´t understand, that these wines never are on sale for half price.
Love your stuff, Konstantin! Very enjoyable videos. Keep 'em coming!
Thank you Jesse!
I’m drinking 2007 Auslese from the Sundial vineyard, it’s a little bit more expensive than I usually drink but I’m a sucker for Mosel Riesling, a fool for acidity and dunce for minerality. Great vid KB
Hi, Konstantin. Congrats on the channel, it is as informative as it is fun! I'm from Argentina, a sommelier too, but I'd describe myself as a wine enthusiast who loves to indulge on the good stuff at weekends (mostly). In my experience, even for people who have very keen senses and are eager to learn, it usually takes years of practice to be able to acutely tell between all kinds of price ranges and levels of quality. I can now easily distinguish, in blind tastings, between wines belonging to varying tiers if the flight is of around six or seven, tops. Otherwise, it's really hit and miss, but quality can be discerned, and it's totally possible to assess whether a wine is properly priced or not. Cheers!
I am applying to get my MBA in Wine & Spirits management in Bordeaux and your channel is teaching me so much! SUBSCRIBED!
Thank you!
Spain, Argentina and Chile produce great wine with great value, I've been disappointed many times with expensive big name wines, but I also found expensive wine that justifed the price with its extraordinary quality and taste, so in this case, just keep tasting different wines and find for yourself, your bank account is not going to like it, but your taste buds will
I agree!
Great content!! subscribed!!!
Great as always!
Glad you think so!
Great stuff, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Dear collegue, Christian, good thing and big fun ! Keep doing !
Great tasting. Cheers 🥂
A small graph tip; you always put the dependent variable on the y-axis. So in the case with quality vs price, quality would be the dependent variable and should be on the y axis. It gives a more intuitive figure that flattens out as price increases.
Good video!
Good tip! Thanks!
I like it the way it is, because human mind is more conscious towards price, so it made it very easy to understand in fraction of a second, but I get it
This nitpicking originates from a limited perspective it seems.
It all depends on what you want to display. Is it the money realized for a wine of a particular quality ("price")? Or is it the quality you can achieve for a given amount of money ("cost")?
"Price" suggests it's not the production end but the retail end that's considered. And for that clearly there's first a wine of a particular quality, and then you see what price can be realized in the market. Thus price depends on quality. In other words, even by your own standards the graph is well chosen.
(I apologize for the necropost. Blame the yt algorithm. :P)
For most people that don’t drink wine often and don’t really know anything about wine, an expensive bottle is probably a waste as they probably would be just as happy with a great $10 bottle. I also like how you point out the difference between cheap and good value. If a bottle is $5 but is awful, who cares if it’s cheap? If a bottle is $17 but amazing quality for the price then that is a great deal to me.
Sucky wine can be expensive, sure. The only problem I have, the more I get into wine, the more I realize that I am a sucker for expensive wine. Being stateside, Barolo and Burgundy can fetch some formidable chunks of my paycheck. Also, the more I get to taste greater and/or more expensive wines, the more I enjoy lower prices wines that are great, for the price. Overall great video, like the breakdown of each wine. Cheers 🍷
Thank you Miguel. Wine can turn into an expensive past time ...
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine yeah, I'm hoping to get my retail license one day, unfortunately it is kind of difficult and expansive in California
Great one!!!
Thanks!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine You are welcome Man
I don't think that more expensive wines are always for suckers but I also think it's important to know your palate and I think the quality really doesn't increase that much once you are above a certain price point.
A few weeks ago a friend and I did a blind tasting, it was a really nice 25 gbp rioja vs. a Tiganello. I was able to taste the difference but I couldn't really say that one wine was better than the other, both tasted phenomenal to me.
It showed me that I personally should probably gather a bit more experience before trying any more very expensive wines.
Yes, Rioja often is great value.
Nice video!!!💪
Thanks!
It is exactly as you said. Until a certain price level, you have a costs and quality correlation (if the winemaker didn't messed it up). After some Point (lets say 100 dolars), fashion, fame, limited numbers of bottles available (rarity, scarcity) ,... This kind of effect takes place.
Vox or everyone saying different (I saw The Vox video ) is totally showing their lack of knowledge about luxury economics.
At The higher level, it isn't about costs anymore. It is the same with cloths, cars, watchs, bags, food, ...
Yes!
I have had a number of wines priced at $150. per bottle and many more at $15.00 per bottle. The higher priced is definitely better in most cases, but not nearly 10 times better, if it were possible to numerically quantify.
I agree!
I really enjoyed that! Is expensive wine for suckers, I think your graph showed it all! I live near a good wine region, I know a good grape farmer, I have learned some skills and now I can make great wine relatively cheaply!
P. S. there are very few people who have the ware with all to become masters of wine, congratulations!!!
Klaus
Thanks!
A couple of years ago a group of friends and I did a similar test, where we got 4 bottles at different price points to see if we could guess which was which, and we also got 4 different varietals to see if we could also tell which type of wine was which. We all were able to tell the difference between varietals, but we were hit or miss on price.
Thanks very helpful
Glad it helped
Great Video! Subbed.
Thanks!
The challenge that I see is that price is not a guarantee of quality. In my experience if you want a fantastic wine it will cost at least a moderate price if not more, but you can pay a high price for a bottle and only get a moderately good wine. Then once you find a very good wine for a price you feel is reasonable throw in the fluctuation from vintage to vintage and it really become a crap shoot. But thats wine!
True!
Easy test for a WSET, I would hope that an MW can taste the difference.
The cost percentage as a function of the price is a great point. Benjamin Lewin goes this in one of his books
Thanks - I agree!
chateau batailley 1995 was my one of my best wine in my memory im glad to make me to memorize that moment
Glad to hear this!
It's not for suckers, but as you mentioned in the graph, quality starts to depreciate after awhile when compared to price. But if you're dealing with wines under US$100 (or under 100 euros), I would say that quality does equate to price up to that point.
Good video. Easy perhaps for a master or even WSET 3 level but
Yes, it requires a bit of experience.
Did the same on Sunday. Piece of cake ;-)
Well done :)
Interesting topic! I would have liked a more in depth explanation of how you figured out between the cheapest and the mid-range bottle which is which.
Yes, I will do another video with more explanation on the differences.
Very nice video; but pivoting on that 2015 Bordeaux vintage: Would you be drinking those now; or wait longer (for everyday enjoyment; not for the video) ?
Let’s say, for bottles that are in the €40-plus category .
I would say keep your 2015s locked away. The wines were and are pretty strucured so they can age for a long time.
Very interesting video! I too struggle with that fine line between what is too much money for quality and what is just plain cheap and you don’t even bother. I am from South Africa, and I have tried wines from Chile, Spain, France etc etc. I think in terms of prices and quality we have a good selection without breaking the bank every time.
Thank you!
I actually consume a lot of South African shiraz! It is awesome. Your country has a lot of delicious reds.
Sehr informativ und unterhaltsam, vielen Dank! Vorschlag: eine Blindverkostung von - sagen wir - 10 roten Burgundern unter 10 €, die man in D finden kann. Wäre das was?
Well, I think to some extend 'quality' is a matter of personal preferences. On the other hand there is clearly a big leap in quality when moving from the cheapest wines to the mid-priced wines, just as you suggest. I think once you pass the 25 Euro mark it gets exceedingly difficult to distinguish between wines solely from a quality perspective. Personally I've found that some expensive wines are what I would categorize as total rip offs
#nailedit hahahha funny, the last time I was in Germany, I bought a older vintages of Château Batailley at Globus.
Thanks!
I have never found great cheap wines, ever. On the other hand I have found mediocre very expensive wines from time to time. So, yes, price does matter but not in an absolute way. I have huge problems with bottles over $150 usd vs a $300 bottle or so. Many times you are buying the experience and fame of the wine and thats it. Worst QPR in wine right now is Napa ( my fav region but extremely overpriced) and for value I would go to Argetina and Spain.
Yes, when a wine is that expensive you also have a certain expectation in it. If a 300 $ is not absolutely outstanding it is immediately disappointing.
Definitely Spain!
I guess that would also depend on the kind of wine you like.
The only wine I really like is scurpon
Absolutely, Spain, Argentina and Chile produce great wine with great value, I've been disappointed many times with expensive big name wines, but I also found expensive wine that justifed the price with its extraordinary quality and taste, so in this case, just keep tasting different wines and find for yourself, your bank account is not going to like it, but your taste buds will
Don't forget about Portugal. They have a great QPR too!
Could you do a video about decanting? Had a discussion with a colleague and he disagreed with me about decanting young tannic/alcoholic/funky red wines. He said only older wines.
Can you make a video explaining your point of view? Thanks
“Funky” (reductive) wines, and wines that are young and not showing much should be decanted. Contrary to popular belief, decanting does absolutely nothing to tannin. Your wine will oxidize before any significant tannin polymerization occurs, that is a fact.
Good idea! I will add that to the list.
I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to try both the Château Mouton Rothschild 2004 and the Chateau Haut-Brion 1996. I'm not sure if they worth their price tag but can certainly not be compared to the regular supermarket wine. So expensive wine is not for suckers, but it is for whoever can afford it.
Great channel, love the videos.
Luckily I'm not an expert so I can enjoy cheap wines :-)
Interesting topic! No, you have to spend some money to get a good wine and when you spend more you get better wines up to some point. The market has become highly efficient, there is no bargain. For me drinking wine starts at about EUR 30 to 40 (Mauro, Spain) for that amount it get a good wine, next step is around EUR 50 to 70 (Hacienda Monasterio, Spain) usually a very good bottle and if I really like to go to the top I have to spend around EUR 100 to 140 (Guado al Tasso, Italy). I would say that above that price level you start to buy the region (France is more expensive than Argentina) and the label of the wine but there might be exceptions I'm not familiar with. You can forget about buying first class wines at rock bottom prices - this idea is prevalent among suckers who lacks the taste to distinguish between moderate, good and excellent wines.
I agree!
As an accountant I wish there was a database that would give a rating/ price for each wine, so that you can get the best value for money. I also find that some Bordeaux wines tend to be overpriced, just because they have the name. I found some amazing Italian wines for less than 10 Euro, that could easily compare to a Bordeaux of 15 Euro or more...
Impossible as "quality" is fuzzy and depends on the consumer. Also it's the better part of the fun being a wine geek to hunt for the best value, isn't it?
The quote about whisky applies to wine: The best wine is the wine you like to drink, the way you like to drink it. But, good wines should tell you a story when you drink it. It should have layers of flavor that surface, and those flavors should last a long time. I’ve had cheap wine (sub $10) that are decent, but I’ve had more cheap wines that are just poor excuses for wine. Cocobon, Ménage a Trois, Apothic are all crap, but many people love it.
Wise words.
You are great! I have a question: where could I do a DNA test to find out the grapevine variety growing in my backyard? I've heard that something like that exists in Austria. Thank you!
Thanks! I am not sure whether DNA testing is possible ... you can identify them by the shape of the leaves, tips and clusters with a little bit of practice. The science behind it is called Ampelography
i had to stop watching when i heard the scratch of the edding on the paper . it gives me goosebumps
:) Put your fingers in your ears next time. I was done with the edding after a few seconds...
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
Please, please, pretty please - use a voice over when drawing. The sound is *extremely* irritating and has made some of your videos unwatchable for me. Not everyone is as sensitive as I am, but I'm sure you're losing viewers like this.
@@Ildskalli Let him do the content the way he wants. Some people, like myself, quite enjoy that sound and get a bit of an asmr effect from it. He doesn't need to cater his content to tiny subsets of individuals. His content should reflect what HE wants to do, and the audience that sticks around is the audience that loves his content, which is the audience I am sure he wants. One can easily skip over this small portion of the video if it bothers them while still understanding the point of the chart. Cheers!
@@AnonymousMycologist
I have no power over what he does or doesn't do. But you probably won't stop watching if he mutes the sound, whereas I do turn the video off and go somewhere else. So, it's a quick way to lose part of an audience. Also, you have no idea of how "tiny" or significant that part is.
the price range is quite huge tho. I wonder if you can taste the difference between 10, 25, 50 euro....
I think he would be able to at those numbers. I think the numbers you picked were quite reasonable. However, an over-performing 10 could easily outshine an under-performing 25, but the question is whether or not he would be able to see through that in the tasting. It would be very interesting, I agree!
I will do another tasting to test that.
One important question, after tasting many high end wines (young of course) I realized more astringent they are, more expensive they usually get? Do you have any idea about that?
Thanks
Aging potential and longevity, I would guess.
4:22 When I was younger I was able to fill glasses with a snap of a finger like this.
NO ...not by definition but a lot of suckers only buy expensive wine to show off. my problem is that often at the first moment i drink red wine i get heartburn ...
i've noticed that with good quality wines (that often cost a bit more) it's far less ....
that said i recently had a glass of barolo from a 100 euro bottle that tasted like shit to me while on the other hand that same night i had a barolo from the same pricerange that tasted like liquid chocolate !! amazing wine .... but i forgot which one lol.
anyway a great video again .... but you might use a pencil lol
What were your indications that 1 was the mid and 3 was the cheapest, since 1 was underperforming and 3 overperforming for their prices?
The cheapest wine was simple in its expression but it was clean and approachable. The mid priced wine was more serious but it lacked harmony and did not really perform as well as Bdx wine in this category do.
The $75 price in the US is the most i spend. Haven't tasted much better above that. Mostly i drink wins around $30 to $40 a bottle, from smaller vineyards in Oregon & Washington
Love your price range....that is almost exactly where i operate
Great video. Expensive wine is certainly not for suckers. In my experience, many "untrained consumers" can tell a 4 Euro wine from a 400 than you think. My wife, who rarely drinks, can consistently get this right when I challenge her on similar taste tests (champagne, red, white, sweet etc.). There are many factors that make a wine expensive as you pointed out, e.g. legacy brand regions with good PR; perceived quality, supply vs demand etc. There are gems as well as underperformers at each price range, and your graph says it all regarding price.
Some friends are amazed by my ability to tell a grape variety from another and often wonder how I do it (which isn't at all amazing really!) They claim they can never do that. I usually answer the question by asking whether they can distinguish Assam from Earl Grey/ a cheap oolong from an expensive one/Pepsi vs Coke or a freshly ground coffee from instant . It's all a matter of how familiar you are with the product & how interested/ willing you are in learning about it/ care about what you drink. Most people, contrary to their belief, do have a palette good enough to tell the difference.
You are making some great points.
Definietly nice to watch your video but I think the 2015 vintage of Batailley is hard to compare because it was a insane vintage.
Dont know how you paid 75 € for that bottle I found enough shops where you can get way cheaper :)
Nevermind good one and greetings from germany :)
Yes, I will do another video with wines at more similar price points. I might have been ripped off. The shop where I bought it is a bit expensive in general.
Expensive wine is not for suckers and the EU knows this. That’s why France has 1er Cru and Grand Cru and Germany has GG.
Yea, but a lot of those geographic determinations were made for political reasons, or because those sites were warmer (when global warming hadn’t set in yet), and are now pretty irrelevant to anyone who knows what they want. Like point scores, those classifications ARE for suckers.
@@skulleton ironic how you're calling others suckers when you're spewing "global warming" nonsense lol.
@@valdencorr2861 Jesus...if anyone knows about Global warming it's winemakers. They've dealt with more and more bust vintages, more and more intense summers which require more intense UV protection for the grape's skins, and earlier and earlier picking seasons. You obviously know nothing about viticulture, science, or even common sense. How many "hottest year on records" do you need? Jesus.
That marker sound. Gosh
Yes and no. IMO, there are so many great wines that are affordable but under $75 - $100, but the higher priced wines can usually be reliably better than cheap wines.
Totally agree!
Lieber Konstantin, tolles Video mit interessantem Inhalt. Vielleicht könntest du nächstes Mal etwas langsamer sprechen? Grüße !
Danke! Unten im Video kann man die Videogeschwindigkeit und natürlich auch Untertitel einstellen. Liebe Grüße
Perhaps next you could discuss wine investment =D
I will do that!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Look forward to it!
It is not just about the quality of the wine making, it is first and foremost a question about terroir. That is why grand cru burgundy is outstanding.
Is it always? There are a lot of Grand Cru wines that are pretty unappealing. The vineyard is important, but if I take grapes from Romanee Conti and turn them into wine, the wine will not taste like the wine the DRC makes from the same site.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine I think even you would make a very good wine from that vineyard.
I disagree. Terroir is at 3d place. At first place is the winemaker and at 2nd the grape variety. You can "create" terroir with techniques I mean look at vin de paille for instance.
I think the experience of enjoying the wine is as integral to the price as the quality of the wine. I am willing to pay $50 usd for a bottle of locally produced wine that you might pay $30 usd for a more mass produced wine just for the experience of tastings at the winery and supporting local a business (I live in the Santa Cruz CA AVA)
Good point!
I'm not that into drinking wine.. but I really enjoy learning about it. :)
You're a bit like the wine equivalent to James Hoffmann, at least content wise.
Ps. Hopefully soon I can say the same about your viewer/subscriber numbers.
Thanks - I hope so too 😉
I recently discovered you (and subscribed) - like your other videos I’ve watched thus far, this was great! But what’s making me leave this comment is . . . wow . . . I love that shirt! 😏
But seriously (although the shirt comment was serious) - great videos! Looking forward to mining your prior videos as well as future content.
Thanks.
it really depends if thw person buying can appreciate the quality of the wine, If not better to buy cheap wine!!
Some people drink wine for the ethanol hit, which can be obtained at low bargain prices. I see some of them buying gallon size wines for $10.00 To me, it is dreadful, and I would prefer water, or lemonade, but there would be no ethanol slam.
yes, thats true.
Obviously you can taste the difference in quality between $5 and $1000 wine. What's worth knowing is if you can the difference in quality between $100 and $1000 wine. The $1000 wine doesn't cost any more produce and its price has more to do with prestige and market demand.
the price-quality curve, where, at a point, price no longer reflects quality, is more characteristic of French wines. In case of, for example, Spanish or Portugese or Argentine wines it should look more straight.
Almost anyone could tell the difference between a $10.00 and $100.00 wine. A challange would be the difference between a really good Hawke's Bay Nz $40.00 chardonnay and a good $300.00 french chablis (type of thing)
Yes. The point I was making was that anyone with experience can taste the difference. But I will do another tasting along the lines of the one you are suggesting - stay tuned!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine ha ha, i also know you could easily tell between a new world and old french wine. The problem you have is that you could set yourself the perfect challenge, so you may need a collaboration
Great channel and video. But halfway into the video I realized that shirt combined with the stone background looks like he just tunneled his way out of prison, stumbled onto a winery and decided to rate some of them.
A bit confused about how wine 1 and 2 were both 2015, but you said wine 1 tasted young in a negative connotation but wine 2 was good because it tasted young and could last the years
I am trying to explain this at 5:26 - it does feel young even though it is aged suggesting that it has further aging potential. Wine 1 is young but in the sense of being astringent and not really harmonious.
Thank you for the explanation
It all depends of how much you can appriciate a wine
True!
so which wine is the best wine?
The wine you are enjoying in the moment ... or rather: There is no such thing.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine hmm are u saying there is no best wine because wine is bad? i googled and turns out ur wrong best wine: "Cabernet Shiraz by Sula is touted to be India's best-selling red wine, and about one sip later you will understand why"
It really is ridiculous. Everyone likes different attributes, no one can tell another what tastes well. Me and my friends were masters of beer but some liked really hoppy flavours and I preferred smoother continental notes. I brew my own wine now and everyone who tastes the reds saying it is far superior than the shops, although they will not pay more than £15 per bottle.
Seems like I need to taste your home brew - just send it over!
That Paulliac needed more time, I'm sure!
I agree!
Paulliac always needs more time
i recently had a chance to sip a pomeral wine i would say saint emillion but having paid very good money for this wine its just to tart am i missing something i know james martin tv chef goes mad for it as his estranged dad is a master of saint emillion i doubt id pay 3600 for a bottle of wine
If expensive wine is for suckers then whole generations of families are suckers giving their lives for it! Expensive wine is like expensive anything, premium products with passion driven in and top results coming out.
Oh. The sharpie sounds. Otherwise very educational video
Alright, i almost never comment. Really like your videos informative, but can I make a suggestion? The marker makes a really unpleasant squeaky noise that’s irritating, please use a different method for diagrams or pictures ?
Noted
Where in the hell can I get 1 dollar wine???
I NEED TO KNOW NOW!!
In Germany - 0,99 Euros for a bottle.
I guess the graph you presented in the video answers the question: yes! After a certain price point you stop getting actual value, right? So, why spend the money other than impressing other people? 🤔
Because impressing other people is important to humans
Some things might also not get better, but it might be different than what you can get at a cheaper price point, and that too is fun experiencing
One small gripe - the sound the marker makes on the paper can be irritating
I wonder what he’d make of my homemade plonk.
I am always happy to try plonk!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine we have been offered another half plot on our allotment, so I want to start growing fruit for wine making. Particularly I want a good grape vine that will produce good wine making grapes out side in mid England.
I want to know about the drawing behind you
I got in from a restaurant in Tuscany and it represents quite well my relationship with wine ...
Even more interesting. What are they saying, and what is he thinking?!
well that's what you're supposed to do man
True!
75 euro I think it’s relatively expensive but I have friends that would make that sounds cheap
Yeah, wine can easily go up into the hundreds or thousands...
I agree though at a certain point the price isn’t always an indicator on weather a wine is going to amaze your taste buds I find my happy medium between 20-80 for me I can’t justify 200 a bottle or more unless it’s for special occasions
как то это все наигранно смотрится ) слепая дегустация круто конечно ( но что то сомнения закрались
don't worry - it is not fake.
One thing for sure is dont trust vivino. Use it as a guide only.
Nope. But many times you do not want a wine with longevity. You want a great taste that doesn't linger too long and for those kind of wines you're a sucker if you spend 20 or more Euro's on it.
Sure. It doesn't always have to be DRC
How does your wife know what to select for you?
She has a lot of practice! And she is never trying to make it easy for me ;)
Thank you for a great video. And you are only a sucker if you don`t know what you are paying for.
This is the only wine tasting that i never see the person actually taste it.. why did you need to cut that part???
Would you have liked to see me spit and slurp? There are some videos on this channel with me tasting the wines but I find that that part is a bit boring.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine well, its wine tasting right? Why ask me to spit or slurp..
Being generous with the number I think anything above 100€ is for suckers, show off.
Can you buy 100 yrs of history for a $1
Dont know...
Yes, expensive wine is for suckers, if you get the wrong bottle. It's not for suckers if you get the right bottle. It's all a crap shoot.