2,600 YEAR OLD Ink Medium - This is SO COOL!!
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Fun fact: The grinding of the ink does play some purpose in the creative process. Master calligraphers will often sit and play their instrument to become inspired with an idea for their poem, then as they are grinding the ink, they compose the words for the poem they are about to write. Basically, the ink grinding itself can be part of the creative process.
What would happen if you didn't use water? Would powder come out or not much would happened or cause some damage?
@@wordsinahandle if you were to just grate it against the stone without water? I’m not sure exactly, you’d probably get some pigment out- think like chalk- but nothing usable. It is probably a bad idea, but I’ve never even thought to try it honestly.
@@dreadreamer5192 I tried it with a calligraphy set I tried out as a kid. Not quality materials, mind you. All that really happened was the screeching of the ink on the stone was the stuff of chalkboard scratching nightmares, and I got no workable powder off the stone. In fact, all I did was impact the inkstone even more, and I couldn't get anymore ink out of that side even with water. I had to flip it over and grind the other side.
@@lynnthomas8457 it's possible to resurface a bald slate inkstone with a heavy grit diamond sandpaper block, just extremely time/labor intensive as you have to sand against the bias of the stone. Have a small travel sized slate inkstone that went bald from use. took me a couple of hours with a diamond sandblock to get a proper grind surface back on the face of the stone. Works great on slate, a pain in the arse on the more harder stones....If i knew then what i know now, i'd skip all the ornamental hardstones and stick with a better slate inkstone that i know i can repair.
I love that!
Imagine holding an ink medium, older than your country.
hearted
50YEARS AGO WHAAAAT
What a surprise I get more likes here duh everyone does like in replys
Jk lol
I’m dumb as
older than modern world man ahahahhss
I'd like to see Jazza try this again with all the advice from the comments.
But someone please send him a proper brush and some black ink sticks!
i don't
@Mister bruce the Mentally disbled bat cosplayer huh
@Mister bruce the Mentally disbled bat cosplayer not always but clearly someone who learns it is more professional than someone who didn’t even research before trying 🤷🏻♀️
That's what the text on his shirt means. He's a kinesthetic learner. Half-joke... He is trying to guess how to use mediums and checks afterwards if he was right. I understand the people who were not happy to see him ruining the ink stick, but this channel is about experimenting-entertaining.
Everyone's heart dropped when he destroyed that white ink stick
Nah not really.
I enjoyed it, I hope he soaks the lot of them.
I'm not the only one
It hurt my soul when he put it in the water in the first place-
@@sirmangees9090 same
The script is an ancient Chinese script, called the "seal script" （篆書）, that is 3,000 years old, popularized in the Qin （秦） dynasty. It reads ”五彩墨“, five-colored ink.
why do you know this... like how?
@Slavic Cheem I mean like yeah they do... But still tho
thats really cool! this needs more likes
@@dilucwithamustache true
@@xdinogacha8561 Thank you guys :D I'm so glad it is informative! I'm Chinese American so I do have an advantage loool
The words on the inksticks are chinese, "五彩墨" meaning Five colored ink for writing. However it was written in an ancient chinese font which may be kinda hard to recognise.
Thanks @Blackmesh for correcting me I can't read 😂
It's actually 五彩墨. I'm pretty confident the first character is 五, meaning «five», not 文. Probably because there are a total of five sticks.
That’s what I thought the only difference is I can’t read any Asian writing. I went only on appearance alone.
It's not a font, words were actually just straight up written different 2000 years ago
Only hard to read to mainlanders.
If I recall correctly these characters are also used in japan (of course having taken them from china) and nowadays only for signatures
"No noise and no inkstone scratching indicates high-quality ink sticks" Jezza's setup: Inkstone Scratched AF and sounds like sandpaper grinding :D
The inkstones were not quality after all, but whatever it was just for the experiment.
@@SomebodyThatYouDontKnow No, you're supposed to grind the flat bottom on the stone because that's more surface area. He was using the edge so of course it's gonna sound awful
@Violianom So True!! Also he treated it like water color not the ink it is.. grind more.. less water !!
The Chinese writing that he wrote is literally “ink”
I-
I have no words...
Welp, technically it's "colourful ink" since there's a 彩 there
“I used the ink to write ink”
Fax
Instructions: *exist*
Jazza:...Yall hear something?
Jazza: imma pretend I didn't see that
Instructions: Does he not see us?
@@bambirino9265 yup
Everyone knows people should not read instructions
So idk what you're talking about -.-
Well I can’t read so this *instruction manual* won’t stop me
I died inside a little when you mutilated that poor white ink stick for no reason.
same
hEs rAcIsTt
@@dinozyx If you think we're calling him racist when we are saying literally only that we're sad at wasted ink, then you have serious issues with projection. Might want to talk to someone about that
Yeah man. Made me wince so much!!
@@minimongoose pretty sure they were being sarcastic, looking how they wrote :[
I’d like to see you revisit this medium after doing the proper research/getting rice paper
Yes, please.
I really enjoyed what he did and the respect he gave it and the joy he found in it. Especially the joy he found in something that's "thousands of years old" (his words). Apparently, you don't need research and rice paper to enjoy something beautiful. Good video.
@@BradKandyCroftFamily ok where did I say it was a bad video? 🙄 I would just like to see what he can do with it’s full potential and see how it’s traditionally used
@@ajhb17 shhh
He’s not gonna listen to y’all
The use of ink sticks comes from actually a pretty simple principle: ink is an "expanding" type product, like Kool-Aid. Ink sticks could be manufactured in a workshop near the raw resources, and then boxed up and shipped en-masse to calligraphers, who already had a source of water nearby. So it makes sense to ship them dry, which also allows the ink to be shipped in relatively inexpensive and less durable packaging, and then allow the end-user to assemble the components into liquid ink.
I've had an inkstone on my wishlist for the better part of 2 years, but haven't had the disposable funds to throw at it yet.
I wouldn't mind seeing more experiments with historic painting mediums. I'd love to see what you do with ancient Egyptian pigments/binders.
Would be very interesting! But it would be a bit too hard for him i think, quite a lot of those pigments are now incredibly rare/expensive/unethical/toxic etc. Also the history people would never be satisfied😅
@@anoekterpstra2308 why "unethical"? I rlly don't know...
@@4uartaOnda well, dont know from the top of my head, but if you look at the immense unjust labour that went into some of those pigments, and the Harm people went through making Them back in the Day... (Arsenic green, lead White etc. , all more harmfull to the workers then the consumers) i cant Imagine the things that might still be going on today, considering such substances (not these specifically, i believe those are very illegal)
@@anoekterpstra2308 oooh... mames sense
Please experiment with more historical mediums. Encaustic wax is originally ancient. But has been modernised and is really fun to try out
If I remember correctly, grinding the ink stones was to be "meditative", so the painter was in a calm, contemplative mood when starting to paint.
in all honesty, doing that for hours on end would just annoy me.
Also because it is pure pigment, you can choose the medium you want to mix it with. Water, alcohol, oil or a combination.
You can say it's meditative but why did rich people have dedicated people grinding the ink for them if it's a part of the art.
@@wotwott2319 isn't it really satisfying tho... I really love the little 'stream' where the ink flows down.
@@wotwott2319this comment is our proof that we have fucked our attention span by a ton. We literally got less than a fucking fish
Actually the act of making Sumi Ink is an important part of the process in creating calligraphy for special occasions like temple ceremonies. I always looked at it as a cross between something like the Japanese tea ceremony and the daily ritual of a cabinet maker sharpening their tools in the morning. Even the act of grinding took on meaning. In China they would grind in circular patterns on the flat end and in Japan they would grind at an angle on the edge in a straight line.
Ohh yeah, I've played with these as a kid. I'm Chinese and I think I got a set from somewhere. Only black ink though, and I have no idea where my set is rn, but it's somewhere at home. I honestly don't mind someone experimenting with things like this because that's exactly what I did with mines, but at some point, it would be nice to see him try to use these in the way you're supposed to.
Looking at this kinda hurts my Chinese soul, we use rice paper (宣纸), as it is more absorbent and thinner. I personally had learnt ink drawing for a year or two, using them on rice paper and normal paper is two different experience. Btw he needs to rub the stick more for more consistent and darker colour. You usually have a pool of really concentrated colour, water it down for lighter colour, adding a drop or two of black ink to make it darker, having that 5 sticks really is enough to draw a colourful drawing with sense of depth.
He didn’t know lol
@@blueberrypawsome that's why I'm here, duhh
No excuses!😠
@@KhanMann66 shut up dude, just... shut up. I'm not even gonna..
@@MDaggatt IKR, I saw him putting it in the cup of water and I just came here to comment and never watched the rest :')
Hey look! Its those things!!! The things even I didnt know what they were 🤭
I thought I might see you here!
Things
Adc art attack you are amaaaaaaaaaaaaazing.🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@jacobex5157 I .... I need to get out more haha
hi
As beautiful as the artwork was, he should try again but this time with some help from the comments and tutorials.
if you enjoyed these already, you absolutely have to try out a decent quality traditional black ink stick sometimes. they are an absolte joy to use!
PS: use the end as flat as it is, to keep grinding surface area flat. only use a few drops of water to grind up thick creamy black, and dilute it in the deep end of that stone.
When you subscribed to Jazza, you've unknowingly signed a contract to be okay with whatever expensive art supplies he ruins.
I laughed so hard to this comment
When you watch any CZcamsr you eventually understand nothing you do will help and bliss is found in accepting it
I cringed so hard when I saw him destroy the white ink stick 😅😂
@@Its_Jess00 i KNOW Right smh
Well yes but actually no
The destruction of that white stick made me die a little in the inside
I know same I yelled no😅
I use these. That made me really sad.
I quit watching after that...I think those should have been decoration...
@@badwabbit that’s sad
:( this
I really think you could have used this as an opportunity to learn the cultural aspects of this medium and how to properly use it. Would have been a great educational experience for you and your viewers.
yes
That ruins the fun. He sees fun in finding out what the art supply is and how it works by himself, rather then spoiling the fun by searching it on Google.
he did. he read us the basic history. this is a fun video, not an educational one. if you want a tutorial on how to use ink sticks, this isn’t the right place.
would've possibly prevented him from referring to everything as "oriental," too 😬
Hhh..Ok. While I agree with this..just let people have fun. He meant no harm in what he was doing. This isn’t meant to be a fully educational channel, if you wanted a tutorial on how to use there look it up..not to be rude, but genuinely..he meant no cultural disrespect.
I’m showing this video to any of my ink sticks that are acting up, thanks Jazza!
Yeah, we mess with those in school in Taiwan. It's very terrifying to walk into a room and find your kids playing with them and it's all over the walls.
This is strangely heart warming. Kids are the same no matter where they are in the world. I hope the ink wash off the walls easily.
Question, was he grinding them right? I'm honestly curious.
現在小孩還知道這個嗎XD
@@niel3639 應該會知道啦(吧?)，但老師為了不要造成一團混亂都會要小孩直接帶墨汁就是了
墨汁也还是会容易弄脏啊😂我之前学书法多少也会弄脏手，超难洗的。And black inks are very hard to wash off, I always wear old clothes when writing Chinese calligraphy. The Chinese black ink is similar with Japanese sumi ink but the contents in the inks are different. Chinese black inks have a slightly smell if it's not used for a long time.
my Chinese teacher would have an aneurysm watching you grind that ink! She always taught me to make full, slow, neat circles hahaha
I did calligraphy with these as part of my Chinese lessons!
EDIT: to add to that, I think your ink was way too watery, Jazza! A little water goes a long way and makes a much more pigmented ink! Also try grinding with the ink stick tip flat against the stone, so that more pigment can rub off every time you circle around!
If only he had taken this more seriously! Like a comment I saw said, kinesthetic learning doesn't mean to learn without instruction.
ya still gotta admit the art was pretty good
i see ur point tho
@@user-pc7yj7pl6c Oh absolutely. It was good! It was just frustrating to see him complain about how unpigmented/watery his ink was when that's now how it's really supposed to be.
@Withro Anime Edits yeah, you can't criticise something if you ain't doing it correctly. Like the comment above mine said, you can't blame the medium for not getting pigmented results if you're aren't doing it efficiently.
I was going to say almost the same things except for having a Chinese teacher, watching the ink stick abuse was painful, but his enthusiasm is great. :D
I died a bit, seeing how he treated them...
And he kept adding water...
it wasn't even comedic
I know, and then he kept saying it was like watercolours. UGH.
He tried tho
I'm Chinese and this is a very confusing vid to watch
THE WHITE STICK- OH MY HEART
THE SACRIFICES FOR SCIENCE :')
How important is the white stick
Assuming the white stick is used at all
@@afrodita2157 Idk abt the specific ones he’s using but ink sticks are usually handmade and have hours of work put into them which is probably why a lot of ppl are saying this
@@afrodita2157 no it’s what they did to it…… thats not how you’re supposed to use it (putting it in water…. And then smushing it….) it hurts my soul……
Should we tell him that kinesthetic learning doesn't have to mean without instruction?
Nah let's not ruin his fun but even if we did I doubt he'd listen to us😂
Let him have his moment. Nah tell him, he'll misinform the public, lol
🤣😂
Nah let him have his fun
its just basically says, learning through experiencing it first hand, which i dont think he is wrong completely.
"A quality inkstick should not scratch or damage the ink stone."
Jazza's ink stone: *is pale as a ghost after using*
he was grinding it with too much force.
It takes a lot of patience
Makes me wonder if the quality of the ink stones you use matter as well.
5:06
He was using too much force and as u can see here she/he was not using too much force
The sticks usually need less pressure than expected. They dissolve really well, and people newer to the method might need to go through a few stones before they get it just right.
It’s a really great way to store your pigment before tubes and plastic!
So you've got three primary colors: Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails.
It’s supposed to be ground slowly, rhythmically and methodically. It is known to put one into a very meditative state. Expect to invest about 5 full minutes grinding before achieving the end result.
If they hold your interest enough Jazza, there's a Japanese take on ink sticks, in an art form called Sumi-e. It's focused on trying to capture the impression of something rather than the hard direct details, and discourages trying to fix mistakes. Consider looking into it!
Sick
I would like to see this as well! I have a calligraphy subject at uni and we just had a seminar with some japanese artists doing that art form and it is beautiful!
I used these in my gifted class, about 36 years ago. I loved every minute of it, as we painted Chinese scripts on rice paper and we used bamboo paint brushes. This is the only lesson that I even remember learning about, in 5th grade!
It’s cool as shit but you definitely didn’t use enough of the “ink”. Add a tab bit of water and the ink stick. Don’t add more water afterwards, just keep grinding until it’s thick enough like an actual paint. I like your watercolor pic though
I like the fact that this was uploaded 4 days before Chinese new year/Lunar year
as a mix of southeast and East Asian living in SEA, it genuinely surprised me when you had no idea what the ink sticks were! goes to show how far the world has come in letting everyone share their cultures ✨
Don't judge the world on the basis of what one individual knows or not knows. I am born and raised in the Netherlands, live in Iceland. I have known about this ink medium since I don't know when.
@@edzejandehaan9265 and i live in the US and can promise no body ik would know what those things are
@@edzejandehaan9265 including myself ofc
@@jordyreyes1246 and I live in the US, have no Chinese heritage, and had a set of these in grade school lol.
@@jordyreyes1246 I think you would be surprised what people around you know that you think they might not.
I had a kid’s calligraphy kit when I was younger! I believe I bought it at a bookstore. It came with a tiny ink stone, a black ink stick, a few rolls of calligraphy paper, an itty bitty porcelain water dish the size of a bottle cap, and an instruction booklet with the animals of the zodiac.
As a kid, dry watercolors were a standard school supply and we would just wet the brush and mash it around in the colors. Everything turned out brown and it basically ruined the water colors. My first art lesson, after my grandma saw me ruining my watercolors,was her showing me how to actually use them. She showed me the lid had sections and she taught me to use those to mix in. You add your clean water in the lid compartments, use a wet brush to pick up a single color then proceed to color your water in each section,a different color. Use a clean brush each time you pick up a new color and it will keep the set clean and not turn ever color muddy. It was a priceless lesson that I still use to this day and I've taught countless other kids to use that technique as well. Thank you for the great art lessons ,grandma! I love you and miss you a ton. I wish I could sit with you and paint along to Bob Ross just once😢😊 no doubt you're in a better place now and in zero pain. See ya later gram😊
I immediately recognized those as Chinese ink sticks, though I feel that your friend should have sent you a black ink stick as well since that is a fundamental color! These are used in traditional Chinese ink painting and calligraphy though you traditionally use it with a máo bǐ 毛笔 or brush. They look similar to watercolor brushes but actually have a core inside which helps contain the ink. Moreover customarily you use xuan paper, a type of absorbent paper made of mulberry fiber. Grinding the ink was an important and meditative process for Chinese calligraphers and painters and was customarily done slowly. The art form of practicing ink and brush art still persists today in many East Asian families. My grandfather was a calligrapher and one of my great-aunts is a guohua painter.
So interesting, thank you for the info Holly!
I love that your comment is instructional, helpful, and not just attacking his ignorance of the subject. I learned by watching and I learned from this comment. Thank you.
Very well written and interesting! Thanks for the info :)
These are sumi ink sticks that are traditionally used in calligraphy (in both China and Japan), called shodou in Japanese (書道; the calligraphy is called "shodou", that is), and they're epic. I've used them to write traditional calligraphy on rice paper myself, in the traditional (and most effective) process, using a traditional brush (fude/筆 in Japanese) and they're the best combination in the world... peanut butter and jelly doesn't even compare. The ink is thick af and flows like a dream, and the brush holds the ink incredibly well. Also, it produces strokes that are impossible to produce with normal painting brushes. I've also tried to do calligraphy using and experimenting with other kinds of inks and brushes, but nothing came even close to what a duo of sumi ink and fude can do. I dream of buying someday a sumi ink tablet, ink stone, traditional rice paper and a set of different sizes of fude brushes (the calligraphies I wrote were in a few workshops held for Japanese language students like myself and they provided the materials) but they're hella expensive 😞
Oh no, now Jazza will try peanut butter and jelly art..!
Peanut butter jelly time
If you have the chance, try buying these supplies in China. They have stores that only sell calligraphy supplies, especially papers, they are cheap and they feel nice to write on. But ink types are different in China, they are more pigmented. But I would say the variety of brushes are much larger in China. Because shodou culture was introduced from China during the Tang dynasty.
I learned Chinese calligraphy for about 6 years. But stopped learning after my mom passed away, because no one can take me to calligraphy classes. My skills may have degraded a bit because you really need a teacher to give comments on your writing so you can improve.
@@lucist3048 My university (University of Florida) offered a Chinese calligraphy course, so check your local university or community college's continuing education course listings.
The Chinese inside me screamed like a dying hyena when I saw the white ink stick came out from the glass of water. I used to help my dad grind these when I was young and he taught me calligraphy to draw for Chinese New Year decorations... *cries*..
Also the Samurai in the picture 😬
Awe, what a beautiful memory 💖
Good for you
Watching you scrape and mangle the white ink stick broke my heart. If I were to do that back in my school's chinese calligraphy class, I would have been smacked so hard by my teacher.
These grinding sticks are a piecd of art themselves. The sticks and also the packaging are so pretty!
I always struggled with making the black ink 😅 it’s on a black stone, so it’s really hard to tell if you’ve actually added any pigment to the ink or if it’s still just water 😂
I know what you mean! Thank god for that liquid synthetic black ink.
@@MikuruChan123 Mood, that's why I use the ones in a bottle, they're always the Thiccness I need.
I put it in a small ink pot of sorts so its very visible
With black ink, you have to judge it more on thickness rather than sight. And have a scrap piece of rice paper (or whatever type of paper you're using) to make a stroke to test it. That's what I do!
@@mahelaniarektbb sometimes, when I was reaaaaally tired, it wouldn't be able to see how thick it was. But usually, if the end of my brush gets saturated, I know I'm getting somewhere
I almost cried as I watch this whole video. He did great studying the ink, and I'm not trying to bash. It's just as a Chinese-Korean who has their very traditional parents sending them to Chinese chaligraphy lessons, I really want to teach him how to use it.
so Korea has this too. called Mok. It's my primary medium and I use it from shading with a brush to using pen nibs to draw line art. I did inktober with only Mok.
Ancient chinese memes be like:
Me: Finishes ink stick without losing it
People:
He is too dangerous to keep alive!
Ah. I sifted through the comments for a memer like you
Lmaoo
Lol
my record wasn’t even halfway...
🤣🤣🤣
The best Jazza videos are the ones where doesn't know what the hell he's doing
Be grateful he isn’t a doctor
Need the reaction video from the artists who only use this medium! That would be so interesting
@@grim_reaper_2151 goes into a surgery, i should probably tell you im a kinesthetic learner :)
Also CZcamsrs who follow instructions exactly but still the thing does not work are often hilarious. :)
Very true
3:10 I think that it’s a fun and great way to learn when you have the extra free time and extra recourses to do so. However when there’s no time and if the resources are precious/limited it would have to be done meticulously and by the book. Glad you can have fun with this one! 👍
Just recently I watched a traditional Japanese stamp maker use those ink sticks and you should take a look on his technique. He got incredibly good results out of just a few scraps on that board 😬👍🏼
it hurt my heart to see him destroy the white stick. it was so pretty before ㅠㅠ ㅠㅠ
i like to watch him learn kinetically but this time it hurt _tiny_ bit because it felt like a whole culture was being ignored (even if he didnt mean any offense). ancient methods of things often had a "proper" way of doing things and um this probably wasnt it lol. fun video as usual though and im not really offended by anything lol. i guess i would have liked to see how this cool, ancient medium was meant to be used. I'll go find some other video for that though. jazza is about entertainment and he delivered :P
That's an understatement. I was yelling at the screen telling him to pull it out.
When he started soaking it in water I was like noooooo you're going to ruin it. Then he took a knife to it. o_O
tbh this whole video seems kinda poorly done/tone deaf. i get he wants to learn the medium “kinesthetically” but a lot of this was done just plain wrong and isn’t a very good representation of the medium at all. maybe take time to learn about the process and culture beforehand? bit disappointed to be honest
Normally I feel like he does research stuff? I don’t know why he didn’t with this?
My old music teacher went to Asia (I can’t remember where exactly so I’m generalizing I’m so sorry) and had gotten over a hundred of these for us to use for our paper puppet play and watching you do this reminds me of helping her after hours for the week beforehand
Man thats cool!
GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear ss
@@AxxLAfriku Go away
@@AxxLAfriku stfu
@@AxxLAfriku haha loser
Dear Jazza. I believe that I need to thank you. For about five years (on and off) 😀 I have found inspiration and good times in your posts. I can only imagine how hard it is to keep posting. But I know I speak for a lot of people when I say Thank you Jazza. Please keep doing what you do. Best wishes from DK
I hike a lot of mountains and have been wanting to paint some of the memories along the way this seems like a great process for painting in the wilderness!
I am a kinaesthetic learner too but it would have been nice if he actually looked up directions later at the end of the video just to see if maybe there were ways to improve it and use it better. Anyway this was a fun video for the coming up Lunar/Chinese New Year!! :) Happy New Year to all the Asian fans out there (And anyone else who celebrates it!) :D I Hope its full of many blessings!
I didn't know what this was until now. I might be the same way... Or im just really at fucking shit up not sure witch
I love how Jazza just doesn’t give af about doing stuff wrong, he just jumps right in and it somehow always ends up looking great 😆 my talentless ass could never
Haha yeah you probably suck lol. Don’t ever try doing anything with your life because talent is all that matters :3
@@RestorerForer That's not nice :c
I think he has got jk's power.
If you know you know
@@gonzaga0715 I think they're joking
@@mustacheboyo Hard to tell anymore. Hell, people were joking and making memes about JackSepticEye's dad dying. For such a lovable and sweet person, hearing him say "I fucking hate you" (to those people) was jarring.
Would really love it if you tried these inks on Xuan paper, which is the medium they’re made to be used on!
That's the prettiest piece I've seen you do. That is beautiful!
Finally, a medium i know about before jazza and i'm cringing at all of jazza's attempts to use them.
#cantrelate
He was just experimenting.
@@SomebodyThatYouDontKnow im just having a moment like "wow! something i can do that jazza cant!" before he figures it out and does way better than i ever could.
The teachers be like: you done with painting?
Chinese modern student: I'm still working on producing color
Lmao
Actually in ancient China, the paintings are mostly black and white. So it's not that time consuming, and those who are able to draw are mostly rich ppl or scholars. They have someone to grind and produce black inks for them.
Chinese calligraphy and painting are considered as skills for scholars.
@@lucist3048 very true, but there are also heavily pigmented works that are drawn with such detail... its really astounding to me!
@@meedyy99 the more pigmented art works are a lot newer and rarer the farther back you go because pigments are rare and not as used compared to the common black which is used in writing and red ink used as official seals. Other pigments like blue and yellow are a lot newer because blue is an expensive ingredient to use. Modern calligraphy art is a lot more vibrant and and colorful compared to the older works
When I lived in Japan, I took several calligraphy classes. Easily the most difficult style of art I've ever tried. We learned all about these inksticks and were even shown how to use them.
Watching your videos has helped my son learn that number one art is ok for boys to like since he has been teased in school, you can do anything with practice, and that it is ok that he learns in the way you do! From my 11 year old and myself ❤️ thank you
I wish you had done a little more research after the intial trial, I feel like there's a lot of interesting things you missed
As a Chinese person, I am interested and happy that you did this! :D
Thank you for expressing the culture!
For Chinese calligraphy we use special rice paper, it helps the paint spread a bit more. Also try using less water, it’s usually really dark paint
as always.. Jazza's arts are amazing!
In all honesty i would have never guessed i was using an inkstick as a lucky charm if i didn't watch this video
LMAO Well now you know XD
HAHAHHAH thank u for making me laugh, here’s a cookie for you kind soul 🍪
Ik from Mr.Queen K drama lol
Haha same I didn't know what it was so I just used mine as decor XD
I was your 💯 th like ..be grateful
So, apparently ancient China had laws on the number of toes you can give the dragons you draw. 3 for peasants/commoners, 4 for noblemen, and 5 toes were reserved for the emperor himself. Using too many toes was considered treason and was punishable by not only your death, but the death of your entire clan/extended family.
Dunno how true this is, but it's funny, so I'll share it anyway.
Actually depending on the reigning emperor having any dragon (with 5 toes) motif along with the use of yellow/gold was seen as a sign of treason/indicated a plan of usurping the current emperor. It could get your whole family executed
@@kurotenshineko2453 considering how majority of chinese literature be it historical or modern, mention exterminating one's family upto 9 generations as some sort of punishment for even the smallest of reasons, I think theres a high chance that could be true.
Dear people that were offended in the comments,
Constructive criticism is great! Just make sure you’re being kinda and respectful-I see a lot of comments saying “oh my god I nearly died when Jazz’s did x” or “jazza why would you ruin it by doing x”. Jazza, like myself and many others, have never heard nor seen this art medium-therefore have no. Idea. How. To. Properly. Use. It. So it’s great that you guys are helping out by telling us how-but please don’t be abrasive or rude about it. Also special note about the whole white ink stick-Jazza was doing an experiment on this new medium, it was meant to test the limits and gauge the composition of the materials. Please don’t be rude about that one either.
Thank you,
A Concerned Commenter
seeing an inventors type approach towards art is what makes these videos really interesting
I remember a few years back, we had this extracurricular class that taught Chinese calligraphy at school (I’m Chinese), and we were each given a black ink stick and a tray. It’s very fun to make the ink yourself. and it’s nice to see people learning about different things in other cultures .
What would happen if you didn't use water? Would powder come out or not much would happened or cause some damage?
@@wordsinahandle nothing would happen, if it’s a good quality one. If it’s a bad one, I would most likely break.
Humans using this for the past 2600 years: 💪💪💪
Yes 💪💪💪
Well... Appart if you use it correctly
@@christophe7723 We dont know how to use it correctly. But the country they belong to know how to use it correctly...
If you hold the stick straight up and down, not grinding only the edge like Jazza was, it's way easier. Moving the stick in a circle rather than back and forth helps too.
didnt he say 12th century BC? so its 33 centuries so like 33 000 years right? My math is probably very wrong but its way more than 2600 years :)
"can these be used for art?"
YES! look up sumi-e paintings :)
my suggestion, having used them myself in the past, is to make a very saturated version of each color and place them in your palette, you can desaturate them by adding water :) its very fun!
in art school we once had a teacher for half a year or so, and we did japanese art stuff with these, an drawing with few strokes and make great art. I was realy good in waterfalls and trees. Its so nice to work with this stuff.
As long as you know what you do
this is meant for Chinese calligraphy, and you're supposed to grind it until it's kinda thick, but you do you.
"I dont think I like that green"
Kasey Golden would like to know your location
My thoughts exactly
I thought of Kasey too!
That was really cool and like seeing that you can pretty much use anything set before you.
I really want that landscape painting to put it on my wall near my bed. Ahhhh. So cool!! Love it. Well done❣️
I really love how you took these really old, rare, and unique ink sticks and insisted on ABSOLUTELY DESTROYING THE WHITE ONE 😂😂🤦♀️
Traditional Chinese painting with these inks was actually the first art medium/style I learnt as a child and what got me into art! This is a throwback for me 😅
I swear jazz a you keep impressing me with your art skills man
Gosh I literally teared up when he started mutilating his poor white sumi stick. I've only done Calligraphy and Sumi-e for a little bit but watching this video I saw just about every rule broken in both art forms within the first three minutes. Nevertheless, I'm happy that Jazza enjoyed playing around with the sumi ink cause thats the real reason I started to do Sumi-e in the first place. So if he had fun than I see no real harm done. However, I think it would be interesting to see him try to do Sumi-e properly so he can see how difficult it is. even for an artist like him it would be difficult cause the strokes are so precise technically and yet still so simple in form. He would have to reevaluate everything he has learned as an artist which I think would make for an interesting video.
I know this is a year old LOL but with all respect, these are Chinese ink sticks - you might just be mentioning that he can use these to do Japanese painting but for all intents and purposes this isn't Sumi- e.
the fact that i didnt even know those existed was already mindblowing
"I can try calligraphy, and I could try art."
Calligraphic artists: ; - ;
I was definitely like bro, calligraphy is the epitome of an art form wtf lol
He definitely just worded it wrong, he meant art in the sense of drawings, calligraphy of course is also art.
@@kotarodesu_23 Yeah, wouldn't most people assume that art is drawing or painting rather than music or dancing or for this matter, calligraphy? It's that.
@@jrsronwell
Especially if you look at Jazza's channel as a whole, being centered around drawing not calligraphy while he did do some videos on it.
I love the clap at the start before the announcement of an experiment... the one that occurred shortly after Jazza experienced the medium for the first time from brush to paper...
Yes this clap was a sign of a true artist. =') carry on now...
All the art pieces you made were AMAZING but I especially liked the last one you made, the tree, mountains, and man made it look nice
It would be cool to see him go through a tutorial on how they’re traditionally used to see if he could come up with something entirely different.
you mean he might actually learn to use them correctly and not mess them up.
I cringed at the amount of water that was initially poured on the stone.
Same
I did too, and I don’t even really paint
то, с каким трудом раньше давалось искусство, делает произведения ещё более впечатляющими и изумительными🖤
THANK YOU for this clip. In one book i red, there was a guy who bough "a roll of parchment and the stone of ink" and for the long time i had no idea what that "stone ink" was. Now i know and i feel much more happy:)
Oh god, this gives me war flashbacks from grade school when my chinese teacher would critique me harshly for my brush calligraphy. "A chicken steps on the ink and runs across the paper, and it would look better than your writing!" She was a hard ass.
To be fair though, my calligraphy sucked. 🤷♀️
My English teacher told me my handwriting resembled that of a dead chicken. I was seventeen. I feel your pain.
The modern version of this is “okay students, you can type your paper if you need too”
I remember doing calligraphy with ink stones in Chinese class some 15 years ago, now I wanna get some and try again 🙏🏾
The white pigment that you scraped off can be used to make thick ink for painting and you can, sometimes, use the inksticks to get pigment to make your own acrylics for painting. (I know someone who uses some modernized inksticks that are directly water-soluble, thanks to the glue used, to make acrylic paint for miniatures.)
Wow that looks so amazing
I have very fond memories of these! When I was a child, I would watch my grandma patiently grind these stones and I would take over! I remember she would tell me to stop bc I kept making more than necessary. It was a very relaxing process.
Imagine trying that 2000 year old ink medium... With your 100 year old pen🤔
That'd be cool
2.600 years old but the erth has only been around for 2,021
Just joking I know it’s been around for 4.543 billion years
Probably would work for a dip pen. However, fountain pens came out in regular use by the 1880s. Maybe would work for, say, a Moore's Safety Pen, but I'd be scared to use it for anything else. You can use some paints in a Moore's... As well as the anathema of fountain pens, India ink.
Would love to see if it would work for a dip pen (or even a cheap throwaway fountain pen. 😁)
@@paulherman5822 I was thinking more of Jazza's fountain pen he bought a few years back and it was a 100 year old atleast. So it would be fun to see him use that old pen with this traditional old af ink.
@@shovelfilmstudios928 Would be a risk. Fountain pen ink is really a different animal. Why I'd recommend a throwaway pen, at least at first.
Though you never know. There's Japanese pigmented fountain pen inks that are not a problem, so it seems like if the pigment is finely ground enough...
Being a "fountain pen guy," I'm scared about trying it out right away with something that old. I have one from the 1910s, and I struggled with using even a period correct iron gall ink in it (but I did. 😁 Very similar to the ink that the company made for it, and it's still not hurt it...) If it disassembles easy enough, might be worth a try.
FYI: My pen is the same company. 😉
I absolutely love the dragon and the landscape both! You are so talented!
That is such a beautiful piece of art!