Why Japanese Calligraphy Ink Is So Expensive

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  • čas přidán 22. 02. 2023
  • Traditional Japanese calligraphy ink, referred to as sumi ink, comes in a solid form. It takes at least four years of production before these ink sticks can be sold, and even longer for the most expensive ones.
    A 200-gram high-grade ink stick from a producer like Kobaien costs over $1,000. And at some other retailers, prices can reach almost $2,000. Meanwhile, almost double the amount of commercial India ink can go for as little as $9.
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Komentáře • 134

  • @MMuraseofSandvich
    @MMuraseofSandvich Před 11 měsíci +128

    For the people outside of east Asia: This is probably premium stuff. You can get bottled ink and a cheap brush at places like Daiso and get your feet wet in Asian calligraphy, or you can get ink sticks made in a factory for a fraction of the price. I'm assuming the quality of these ink sticks are amazing and geared towards the masters and professionals, kind of like Japan's uber-expensive carbon steel chef's knives.
    There's a lot about Japanese culture that has this sort of centuries-old tradition that is maintained by a rapidly-aging group of people with no heirs.

    • @Valiran9
      @Valiran9 Před 10 měsíci +16

      That’s very sad. Artistry like this should never be allowed to die out.

    • @Ghosy01
      @Ghosy01 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Get with the times old man . I haven’t written anything on paper in 8 years .

    • @war_designer8763
      @war_designer8763 Před 7 měsíci +3

      That’s very true and and also very sad 😔

    • @zhinka1
      @zhinka1 Před 6 měsíci

      the cancers the workers get make this too costly for those with a soul

    • @tilasole3252
      @tilasole3252 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@Ghosy01 that's actually quite sad. I am not even sure they teach basic calligraphy anymore in American schools. If it was not for spell checker, we wouldn't be able to understand these newer generations with plain English.

  • @cortexcarvalho9423
    @cortexcarvalho9423 Před 9 měsíci +27

    His workplace looks like one of those super organized farm games. So satisfying to see.

  • @chadm.7371
    @chadm.7371 Před rokem +440

    450 years is a long time for one man to make ink. I'm concerned for this man and his feet.

    • @yourfunsister
      @yourfunsister Před rokem +8

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @devynhale1623
      @devynhale1623 Před rokem +15

      The company

    • @slifer0081
      @slifer0081 Před rokem +12

      ​@@devynhale1623 what??? No!!!

    • @itrurelig1on759
      @itrurelig1on759 Před rokem +15

      I’m more concerned that he is 450 years old I know Japanese people tend to live a lot older lives than Westerners come on 450 years old that is impossible even for a Japanese man.

    • @slifer0081
      @slifer0081 Před rokem +3

      @ITRURELIG1ON It was intended to be a joke based on the context of the way they stated in the video :)

  • @darkwarriormaster9644
    @darkwarriormaster9644 Před rokem +69

    This is fascinating. I never even heard of ink sticks and ink stones before watching this video. Also, I already knew that calligraphy was in both China and Japan, but didn’t know the former had such an influence on the latter.

  • @footfault1941
    @footfault1941 Před 9 měsíci +22

    Many of craftsmanship in Japan stubbornly resist replacement by machine. Here's an example, which is in fact rare & curious even for most of us Japanese. They usually have a very long history, some of which could boast of century-long continuity, while others, unfortunately, disappearing due to unsustainability in modern lifestyle.
    The level of skill/performance by those maestros is simply stunning, beyond our (Japanese) imagination, say, unrealistic by human! Precise & infallible, like Swiss watch, it's they who work like machine! Reaching that level becomes Art, entertaining & mesmerizing to watch. Allow us preen ourselves a bit, will you?
    PS. The style/structure of the workplace (+ residence?) is also impressive, leaving inkling of samurai era!

  • @silver965
    @silver965 Před 11 měsíci +56

    I appreciate their dedication to traditional methods and not prioritizing efficiency above quality, but can they really not think of a better way to collect the soot? The best way is really to have some poor man going back in forth in a smoke-filled room, sucking in lungfuls of the very same soot he is trying to collect?? Come on, now.

    • @gotzmadskittlez3406
      @gotzmadskittlez3406 Před 11 měsíci +11

      That's what I thought. Tradition be damned, give that poor guy a break.

    • @mattwong7191
      @mattwong7191 Před 11 měsíci +30

      Yeah there is something incredibly Japanese about this. Painstaking, labourious, artisan work. Except, it's incredibly inefficient and just brutal on the poor human who has to do all that tedious work, inhaling extremely bad for you soot constantly. I'm sure the final product is amazing but in some respects this just seems like retaining the "old ways" for the sake of tradition.

    • @chrthiel
      @chrthiel Před 11 měsíci +9

      ​@@mattwong7191They could at least give him a proper full face respirator. Preferably a powered one

    • @ponzu638
      @ponzu638 Před 10 měsíci +3

      "They must rotate the lid every twenty minutes for two hours." Given that there are multiple rooms with hundreds of these inside, I'm sorry but that's just unnecessarily tedious.

    • @Valiran9
      @Valiran9 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I think a little automation would go a long way here without impacting the quality of the product.

  • @michaeltate1776
    @michaeltate1776 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I’m very impressed with these people. Such dedication is very amazing

  • @sikhswim
    @sikhswim Před 11 měsíci +14

    Please followup with the soap they use before they head home to make and enjoy dinner with their families

  • @atillaozturk7075
    @atillaozturk7075 Před 8 měsíci +21

    The Japanese are very interesting people.
    On one side they live in a high tech society and on the other they still carry on with traditions passed on from their ancestors hundreds of years ago.

    • @war_designer8763
      @war_designer8763 Před 7 měsíci +2

      It’s sad to see that many of these traditions are slowly disappearing 😔

    • @Cakemarvelous
      @Cakemarvelous Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@war_designer8763well I'm all for tradition but there's got to be a way more efficient to have the same result without painstakingly rotate a lid of 400 candles every 20 minutes

    • @unromanoarecareanaveragero8275
      @unromanoarecareanaveragero8275 Před 2 měsíci

      @@war_designer8763 This is the dark side of progressivism.

  • @luisotero2632
    @luisotero2632 Před 11 měsíci +10

    The guy breathing all that smoke…

  • @gk82111
    @gk82111 Před rokem +14

    Thanks for showing us this amazing documentary

  • @dr.quackenbacker5247
    @dr.quackenbacker5247 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Man, I really wonder what soap he uses

  • @nemesisbreakz
    @nemesisbreakz Před 5 měsíci +3

    Artisans i respect

  • @BLAZE-ek5kv
    @BLAZE-ek5kv Před 11 měsíci +11

    I swear. I bet their is a documentary abt why Japanese paper is so expensive. & their is an old Japanese men who's been making paper for 1000 years

  • @ernestcashion4462
    @ernestcashion4462 Před rokem +33

    At the very end he says the company will lose money instead of make a low quality ink stick. So he's making 6,000 at 1,000 a pop hell that's 6 million , I'm gonna say they're doing okay.

    • @GooglyEyedJoe
      @GooglyEyedJoe Před 11 měsíci +5

      Assuming they actually sell even half of that 6,000 very quickly, I'd be interested to see just how much of a demand there is for the supply that they claim. Because there are much cheaper alternatives for people who desperately need ink and there are a number of kobaien ink sticks vastly cheaper than these top-of-the-line $1,000 ones which I imagine are bought much more rarely than the cheap ones.

    • @matthewcaimbeul8722
      @matthewcaimbeul8722 Před 11 měsíci +19

      @@GooglyEyedJoe - Oh it's rare to be bought.
      But as someone that owns one of these, every other ink stink feels awful. These are so smooth it feels like your brush has almost no friction between it and the paper. No grit or excessive bubbling either.

    • @benshearin8514
      @benshearin8514 Před měsícem

      @@matthewcaimbeul8722I’m curious, what got you in to very high quality calligraphy? I’ve recently fallen down the fountain pen rabbit hole, so I can sympathize, but how does one start/become interested in it? It seems like a fairly inaccessible and unusual hobby. I have huge respect for the amazing artists though.

  • @glocksp80smd
    @glocksp80smd Před 8 měsíci +3

    Hes been making it for 450 years dude looks good for his age. Taking all that ink into his skin and all lol

  • @ninjatoaster924
    @ninjatoaster924 Před 6 měsíci

    6:28 I'm happy that he's happy to explain how he does his job

  • @POPE_FRANC1S
    @POPE_FRANC1S Před rokem +7

    I really wanna eat it

  • @user-nw5ml7lr2b
    @user-nw5ml7lr2b Před 6 měsíci +7

    I hope Japanese hold on real strong to their beautiful crafts!!!!

    • @BigHushAffiliate
      @BigHushAffiliate Před 6 měsíci

      It will all end one day. Everything you see and touch and smell and feel.

    • @CyborgRowlet
      @CyborgRowlet Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@BigHushAffiliateDon't be such a nihilist.

  • @WhiteDragon689
    @WhiteDragon689 Před měsícem

    Wow, that is so much work. I wonder how they discovered how to do this?

  • @monalove7255
    @monalove7255 Před 11 měsíci +3

    AI cant duplicate this tradition.

  • @tilasole3252
    @tilasole3252 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm from the Blackfoot tribe, but he REALLY has black foot 😮

  • @glocksp80smd
    @glocksp80smd Před 8 měsíci +1

    Same way they make prison tattoo ink. Collect the burnt soot

  • @slifer0081
    @slifer0081 Před rokem +1

    Wow...

  • @lowercaseWILL
    @lowercaseWILL Před rokem +13

    I appreciate the hard work and hands on, but at least kneading is deserving of a stand mixer with the hook attachment.

    • @maggs131
      @maggs131 Před 12 dny

      Tradition in Japan will not be broken for any reason least of all because something is difficult

  • @Serendipitous247
    @Serendipitous247 Před 11 měsíci

    I wish there was no Animal grains used...instead arabica gum for binding is better option

    • @_Ekaros
      @_Ekaros Před 9 měsíci

      As long as they come from animal by products I don't think it is too big of an deal. And they might be actual reason for quality...

  • @realmr-hyde
    @realmr-hyde Před 6 měsíci +1

    The brand has beeen making it for 450. Not that one dude 😅

  • @MrH2O1998
    @MrH2O1998 Před rokem +29

    It's expensive because you're paying for their health insurances.

    • @macDaddy1118
      @macDaddy1118 Před rokem +2

      Other than hard labor none of the ingredients they work with are dangerous. And labor is expected to be hard in artisan crafts in Japan. People take pride in their work over there and they tend to live longer than most Americans.

    • @MrH2O1998
      @MrH2O1998 Před rokem

      @@macDaddy1118 Soot causes a myriad of health issues. It can get into your eyes and lungs and can be absorbed through the skin. Respiratory problems, eye damage, skin infection and rash are known hazard when working around the substance. Report of cancer dates be in the late 1700s when chimney sweeps were regularly exposed soot (especially in children).
      Let's just say that it is a educated guess but working in a room full of oil lamps and catching smoke doesn't seem like a way to extend your life.

    • @lowercaseWILL
      @lowercaseWILL Před rokem +7

      @@macDaddy1118 I’ve heard their McDonald’s burgers actually look like the ones in pictures! Pride in product & tradition for sure! Nonetheless, the soot production aspect cannot be good for respiratory system - they literally refer to the particulate matter as it collects as being extremely fine. Whatever isn’t collected will be airborne, especially in such a confined space.

    • @Sevorast
      @Sevorast Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@lowercaseWILL I've had mcdonalds in japan and it looks pretty much the same as it looks everywhere else.
      You're dead on about the soot though. Its carcinogenic as fuck.

    • @OjoRojo40
      @OjoRojo40 Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah I prefer to call it exploitation :) @@macDaddy1118

  • @joshuamurray5260
    @joshuamurray5260 Před 7 měsíci

    This is kinda how we made tattoo ink in prison lol, but we used hair grease

  • @emptyboxesandrooms
    @emptyboxesandrooms Před 9 měsíci

    Ah ok I thought I was on one of those Indian street food videos again

  • @DrN3xus
    @DrN3xus Před 8 měsíci +1

    2:42 Thought this dude had a wicked big nostril for a second

  • @scottenosh4548
    @scottenosh4548 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The Japanese "British" accent always makes me smile for some reason. I dont why.

  • @haikudragon1002
    @haikudragon1002 Před 8 měsíci

    Came here from the short

  • @DesertWolfSurvival
    @DesertWolfSurvival Před 3 měsíci

    ❤❤❤

  • @anujpradhan8741
    @anujpradhan8741 Před 2 měsíci

    Is it water proof?

  • @jonathangullett3143
    @jonathangullett3143 Před 9 měsíci +1

    $50 says this wouldn’t stand a blind test

  • @momofthemaos
    @momofthemaos Před 6 měsíci +1

    Put an Apple Watch on the ink kneading artisan! Bet he runs a half marathon at least a day.
    What craftsmanship. When things like this are gone, the world will deeply mourn 💔

  • @19881011lee
    @19881011lee Před rokem +4

    Это из старый Китай!

    • @Eza_yuta
      @Eza_yuta Před rokem +4

      Just like Covid-19

    • @sionantara370
      @sionantara370 Před rokem +1

      @@Eza_yuta blok

    • @Eza_yuta
      @Eza_yuta Před rokem +3

      @@sionantara370 Are you Covidian descent from Republik Rakyat Covid? Haiyyaa I like your national dessert bing chilling 🍦 but don't like your national meats🦇🐈🐕

    • @sionantara370
      @sionantara370 Před rokem +2

      @@Eza_yuta Seethe

    • @TripleKmafia
      @TripleKmafia Před rokem +1

      @@Eza_yuta Roasted the shit out of him.

  • @exxon5430
    @exxon5430 Před 8 měsíci

    I dont believe you guys go japan n film. Is it from NHK

  • @llamamanguy
    @llamamanguy Před 11 měsíci

    Ikigai

  • @Remixchannel-xv2nh
    @Remixchannel-xv2nh Před 3 měsíci

    Now we need paper that doesn't get soaken wet

  • @g-page645
    @g-page645 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Sad to see videos of skilled artisans have so little views whereas naked people get more views.

  • @MiceAl487
    @MiceAl487 Před rokem

    What the hell is monkey glue

  • @stephanaeon
    @stephanaeon Před 2 měsíci

    So many complaining that this should be automated and that uts not worth it etc. Some people, like these artisans, learn for years to be able to do this as a career. Theyre artisans, not just workers. They take great pride in making the most high quality and traditionally hand made product they can. And obviously this isnt for your average consumer. The really high end ones are meant for other artisans, like artists and calligraphers. Not for someone learning or playing around.
    Theres hugh end versions of many things. Shoes, paint, phones, clothing, other art supplies, cars, etc. If it's not worth the price for you, maybe youre not their intended customers?
    Personally i think designer clothing, super high end makeup and some other things would be a waste of money, but I'm not who theyre targeting either.
    If someone us happy, taking pride in their craft and making a good living, leave them be. Theyre not hurting anyone.

  • @aishwaryaraju921
    @aishwaryaraju921 Před rokem +27

    Boy am I glad technology can give me this with humane conditions and at a cheaper price…

  • @loongson1
    @loongson1 Před 9 měsíci +1

    the great learner of China

  • @toast1069
    @toast1069 Před rokem +1

    Hopefully ink pens don't cost too much

  • @lewisfriend1705
    @lewisfriend1705 Před 9 měsíci

    I can tell you how 85% of those ink makers will perish 😂

  • @7zark785
    @7zark785 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Almost as expensive as printer ink :)

  • @sebastianstewart6894
    @sebastianstewart6894 Před měsícem

    Wait isn't this nanotechnology of active carbon.

  • @powerofone1645
    @powerofone1645 Před 14 dny

    It's only black ink.............. give me strength looks like a total money scam to me. lol

  • @JohnBatman111
    @JohnBatman111 Před rokem +8

    Japanese, masters of overdoing stuff

  • @jacktoddy9783
    @jacktoddy9783 Před 11 měsíci +9

    As someone who uses Sumi ink and lives in Japan, this is video just a fraction of the Sumi ink story - not a good video in my opinion. Poorly researched with no proper understanding of the culture that lies behind the materials used in the craft of calligraphy along with the mind-set of the art related to advertising. The video was correct in parts, but these needed to be fleshed-out as they are crucial to how Japanese culture view the art of calligraphy.

    • @Scream_Tail_0985
      @Scream_Tail_0985 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Do you know where I can find a proper video or article on sumi ink? I would appreciate it

    • @armoredman6941
      @armoredman6941 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Maybe you could make that video

  • @jacquiventurini7877
    @jacquiventurini7877 Před 6 měsíci

    Beautiful art, but this soot must be so harmful for these mens lungs.

  • @RobShaffer
    @RobShaffer Před rokem +4

    Cancer, anyone?

  • @potaterjim
    @potaterjim Před 11 měsíci

    This could be automated so easily...

  • @animallover-dyutiindia
    @animallover-dyutiindia Před 4 měsíci

    Animal glue🥺🥺😡😡

  • @michelle057
    @michelle057 Před 11 měsíci

    My $9 ink does the same thing

  • @RosieNyan
    @RosieNyan Před 8 měsíci +1

    Leave it to Asians to over complicate simple things. That looks horrible btw.

  • @LeviLikeTheJeans
    @LeviLikeTheJeans Před rokem +5

    Seems like a massive waste of time to me

  • @wanderingnomad1
    @wanderingnomad1 Před 8 měsíci

    Everything Japanese is unnecessarily expensive and over worked. No wonder it has the lowest productivity amongst developed states.

  • @mrdgenerate
    @mrdgenerate Před 3 měsíci

    Also how they make tattoo ink in jail.. with soot and toothpaste lol or shampoo or something like that.

  • @billycrocker9626
    @billycrocker9626 Před rokem +5

    They could definitely mass produce this if they wanted

    • @matthewplizga1920
      @matthewplizga1920 Před rokem +11

      It is mass produced these are artisan versions of the product

    • @modstrom3502
      @modstrom3502 Před rokem +3

      I would lose value. Art can't be made by massproducing it.

  • @solid5315
    @solid5315 Před 9 měsíci

    Surely there is a cheaper more efficient way to make ink

  • @mate20x61
    @mate20x61 Před rokem +1

    this process of making ink using their feet as hands are not wise and no respect no matter how expensive is...
    it should use a mallet or a wooden stick to hammer and pound.
    hope people will not use this ink to write sutra....horrible....