Why These Giant Oak Barrels Are The Key To Making Some Of The World's Most Expensive Wine
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
- Luxury-wine makers, producing some of the most expensive wine in the world, will pay up to $50,000 for a single barrel to age their wine. But not just any barrel: a foudre. A foudre is a massive wooden vat that impacts and preserves the overall taste of the wine. Making a foudre starts with French oak, a tightly grained wood that adds unique flavoring to the wine. Cooperages like Foudrerie François pay close attention to the quality of the wood they source to make the foudres they sell and ship all over the world. The wood is so precious - and so expensive - that the French government heavily regulates its sales through annual auctions of oak forest plots.
Editor's Note: At 7:42, the video incorrectly states that the material placed in between the planks of oak are strips of wood. The material is actually rush, a type of reed.
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"The French oak is the best of the world" - such a French thing to say
Didn't do too well at Trafalgar though did it? lol
I like working with American white and red oak, but French oak really is something special. it doesn't even have to be finished, a rough cut piece of French Oak feels like it wants to be something exceptional.
French oak is more dense than American or Romanian one for instance.
Just a Business Insider thing to say. Turns into a clickbait channel with every upload.
Just a fact
“French ____ is the best ____ in the world”
-a random Frenchman
I'll take French arrogance over German guilt
Some confusion by the narrator here !
In spring, Oak lays down large open vessels of low density, then in summer it grows dense wood, the thickness of which depends on the growing conditions. So, slow grown Oak is actually of lower quality, less dense and more porous.
The French are experts at managing Oak for timber, carefully controlling the density of plantations for optimum light, interplanting with pine to force them to grow upwards ( because Oak lacks apical dominance and will produce multiple top shoots), and snedding, by cutting off side branches to produce knot free timber.
Thanks for the info! It's great to know it's not only the soil and climate producing these great oaks but decades of craftmanship and knowledge as well
This documentary is beautiful. I appreciate their craftsmanship, tradition, and the 120-year-old oak barrels. Now searching for wines aged in these barrels.🥰
A wine doesn't need to be aged in oak to be better, and in some cases, it's better when they are not.
Most white wines are actually better when they are not aged in such barrels for instance.
It really depends on the type of wine and the time spent aging in the barrel. Some grapes actually fare better in stainless steel vats
@@CrystalStearOfTheCas I agree, a lot of people seem to like oak aged Chardonnays, and I personally think it's better to age them in steel instead.
The oak flavors and textures get overpowering really quick and it ruins the end product.
It's like listening to an orchestra, but one of the instruments plays way louder than the rest.
Thanks for watching!
The craftsmanship behind French Oak barrels is truly remarkable and showcases the depth of tradition and quality in luxury wine production. Sustainable management and the specific toasting process not only enhance the wine's flavor but also reflect the dedication to excellence in the industry. 🍷
“Customer asked us for a thermoregulation system, so we gave screwed in a thermometer.” Now that’s modern engineering right there. This serious always makes me chuckle.
Beautiful barrels and a fascinating craft.
Mistake: The material that goes in between the boards that form the top and bottom isn't wood, but reed - like it has been done since 100s of years.
Thanks for catching! We added an editor's note.
@@BusinessInsider You're welcome. Your videos are still very interesting and well made, thanks to the entire team in front and behind the camera.
Wow - phenomenally insightful. Loved watching this.
Thanks for watching!
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What cooper does he work at?
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I really enjoy the fancy machine which cuts perfect angles for the staves and once constructed the entire thing is dropped onto some old tires sitting on the floor! Great!!
I really enjoyed this video, thanks for sharing !
Thanks for watching!
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The dude from old Yankee workshop could have built one for like 100 bucks, and taught us all how at the same time.
Always enjoy watching and supporting this channel as the mini docos you produce are very well done so well done to the team who put these together,interesting when they were making the cuts on the french oak logs nobody mentioned x-rays as over here in new zealand one plant we have locally the wood is first x-rayed to establish the best cuts for the wood then an automated cutter follows the rule to cut the best product.
An Oak Wooden Barrel is just the same as any other oak wooden barrel.
These oak barrels that make wine are great looking! I would like to see them in person!
Ive seen some really old humongous ones at the heidelberg Castle Germany that hold 130,000 litres of wine. Simply massive. When the castle was constructed, a 220,000 litre barrel was also installed.
I agree they look super cool and interesting
They're surprisingly reasonably priced. I expected them to cost far more.
I guess that's because of the subsidies and the control put into place by the government. If not you'd have only a few families keeping the tradition alive for decades at absurd prices for only a handful of very expensive wineries.
If you want less contact with the oak use a stainless barrel with a couple of oak board in it
I love this show
I drank wine once, not a fan. What kind of barrel do they keep DrPepper in?
Im sure you can find some 5 gallon jugs of soda somewhere in America
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In Dr Pepper? :-) Enjoy.
I watched with express enthusiasm as I have a winery plan in mind and now I know where to find these barriques🐲🔥🔥🔥 Thanks BI for always producing the most thought provoking subject matters.
I think French oak is more expensive than American oak because of the quality controls and not only the tighter grain. Does the US have a similar quality assurance system?
American oak is more abundant, than French oak.
US customers have control over the quality of the wood for they use, they usually inspect it before they purchase it. Who needs more government agencies and taxes for it, that is another reason why French oak is more expensive other than the availability.
Naval forests comes to mind
I strongly doubt that there is much of a difference. French oak is expensive because they say it is. After all, they're just trees, and as long as the final boards have the grain structure they're looking for, it shouldn't matter where they come from. This is mostly just more foofy wine snobbery.
Prob more so tradition/reputation than French oak actually being that much better, good old classic wine snobbery
So that’s where lord farquad got his barrels
Here's an idea. Use airtight glass containers and throw in a small piece of the fancy shmancy toasted french oak
Why dont you start a company making them.
That is what home winemakers do. French oak chips, cubes and spirals are sold online and at brewing shops.
The french barrel maffia wants to know your location! :D Joke aside, not glass but stainless steel barrels for wine aging are exist. They are airtight and are reusable as many times as you want.
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I think that is what they do when they use metal barrels.
Bravo sir
Alcohol barrels are the unsung heroes in the industry
I believe this as a Jack Daniel fan ❤❤❤
Imagine you dry your wood for 4 years but it rains so you have to do it all over again
That would be frustrating
Holy shit 50 grand a barrel
I hate music in educational videos.. destroys the sounds of the WORK being done.
Crazy to think to grow those oak trees took centuries my guess or maybe just a century. Heck my neighbor who is 94 years old ,planted the silver maples in front of her house. My guess these oaks are much slower growing and took at least 100 years before it can be made into a giant wine bottle.
Wonder what it would be like to beechwood smoke the inside of the oak barrel. For a weird fusion merlot or for whisky.
They make a 50,000 litre timber vessel. That's actually nuts.
Yo, that job would be so cool and weird at the same time😂😂😂😂
Any good for making long bows though ?
How many times do they typically use a single barrel?
Usually, up to 3 to 5 times, though depending on what wine, you can stretch to 7 depending on what the winemaker is going for (quality, "oakyness", strain/s being used, etc.).
with my grilled ribeye potato grilled onions and English Blue Stilton slice i pick up a California Zinfandel or Cabernet Sauvignon at TJ's for $4.49 pre tax and deposit, breathe it for 40 mins while i get set up and it drinks like $12.00. Why would i strive ? for the most expensive wine in this world. Last year i went crazy on a $30 bottle of California Pinot Noir for that meal and it drank like $30.00. My life is good.
Business Inside should do a video called: "Why living in America is so expensive - So Expensive"
Just wonder how many barrels they make in a year ??!!
English oak is the best ask lord nelson
Wine goes good with Christmas turkey.
A load of snobbery about the French oak being so superior. The uk grow the same white oak tree so therefore its the same wood. Except in uk they call it English oak. & They do use it for making excellent barrels too.
the cost of the 1000l sounds high, but i expect you earned it back if you filled it 2 times hahaha.
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Let me get this straight. They buy tree trunk for 50k USD and then use max 20% of the tree to make the barrel, the other 80% is used as firewood? They cut down their forests, i bet this tree took 200 years to mature. All that so some French snob can sniff wine :D.
These things only represents the insatiable ambition and imposing will of human, what we actually need was reflected to us during covid pendemic
The smaller the barrell, the more the wine contacts the wood giving more of the oak notes in the wine. To much oak and the oak dominates the wine masking the fruit in the wine. The barrels are scraped out over time to allow the wine to contact the wood
I'll take French arrogance over German guilt
Imagine doing a video to educate people on a topic and getting the pronunciation of the object wrong. The final e should not be pronounced but instead make the r longer with a soft landing. Also the plural form that ends with a s, written, is completely mute.
Honestly that’s super cheap for how much effort goes into it
why? source of wine is plant so barrel to store wine has to come from plant also
"It takes 4 years for the wood to dry."
Maybe it takes that long because they store them out in the open where it will inevitably rain and snow.
While that sounds off, it’s a lot more stable for the wood. Otherwise you would have to kiln dry massive quantities of wood.
I love how at the end they're talking about oak but pan over some soft coniferous like spruce or hemlock... editing team malfunction 😂 its at the complete opposite end of the spectrum from oak
Most wine tastes like some form of metal nozzle or tin because of neutral level oxidation between the iron in the metal and wine they add that much oak to it to mask it. They should just have 25kl tanks made from oak and not use metal or use a machine with the compatible metallurgy to neutralise it instead of new garbage.
Tin is the best material. KERNOW BYS VYKEN!
These guys never heard of American red woods
You challenge any one of these "connoisseurs" to a blind taste test of the best French wine and a generic $100 bottle of box wine found in American grocery stores and they will shit their pants trying to figure out which is which.
You can tell the difference, I do this sort of thing professionally.
Also, $100 is a lot for wine, you can get some really nice bottles for that money, the fun part is when you look for bottles that are just as good (preference-wise of course) but cost way less.
Wine
Feels like a waste to burn the scrap french oak if it's so expensive. It can be made into small wooden items for another craft business. Then just use american oak for the toasting, if it still has to be burning oak for the flavor.
Ur so dumb. It’s in France… why would u import American oak just to be fuel. Use the scraps.
Nothing beats German Oak! But nowadays it’s all about the chemical mix for the specific wine. Unfortunately!
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tumeishi huku miaka.
I'm sure that they can afford a voice over translation.🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Where is the other narrator?
Why is this done as such a manual process in today’s time with equipment, those rings for example could be precisely positioned very efficiently and effectively using machines to exact standards with laser calibration, and save the impact and physical repetition injuries to those workers!
my guess is that since every foudres is custom made, it would require specialized equipment and/or calibration for each one. It would take the same amount of time, if not longer to do it by machine than hand. Plus, machines are not always reliable, there could be technical malfunctions and the machine cannot adapt on the spot. Doing it by hand allows exact customization, a lower chance of the wood getting damaged by a machine and vice versa, maintains the reputation, and is probably cheaper.
People drink too much.
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French oak isn’t better than American oak. It just tastes different. It’s the same as substituting limes for lemons. They’re so similar, yet so different. That doesn’t mean limes are better than lemons. It means limes are better at these particular flavors and lemons are better at those particular flavors. French oak is better at some flavors and American oak is better at others. The high price is because it is meticulously managed and carries the legacy of French refinement.
British oak is stronger and has a tighter grain
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Ooohh lala French oak! 😆
As someone that works with wines, you can tell the difference between American, French and no oak (one of the things you do in training is a blind test of those).
There's no 1 size fits all, all wines have a different requirement for this.
Some are better with used barrels, different toastiness... And some are better with no oak at all (the oakiness can be overpowering and ruin the balance in white wines for example).
Just think how less expensive these barrels would be if the government was not involved in regulating it.
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I dont know why but this whole wine business just looks a bit over the top and exxagerated fancy stuff i know some connesiuers will come running and say you dont know shit and all and iam no sophisticated or gentleman like drinking expensive wine is a representation of a sophisticated person sure there is a huge difference between a 10 -15 dollar wine bottle and a bottle worth thousands of dollar but if you compare a nice quality wine worth a couple hundred to the thousands one there is absolutely no difference so much so that you have to be a wine connesuier with decades of experience in wine tasting to spot the difference and still many connesuiers can't tell difference between them not a person like me
It is just a way to boast wealth and showing purchase power like buying a gargantuan yacht, art peices worth millions and trying to decipher that every single stroke by artist had a thought behind it, pizza made in italy is the best no matter even if a similarly experienced chef makes and sells the pizza in other part of world with similar climate conditions similar ingredients and similar techniques just because it is being sold at a bar in goa(india) it cant be as delicious as it is in italy
It is just like the stanley cup phenomenon in usa but it has been going over for hundreds of years
leave it to the french govt to control the oak tree market so many rules and regulation in the EU, UK etc wonder how many barrels the 450 year old oak tree in my front yard would make...oh wait its not as good as french oak...pfft
Foudre making is so respected in France that the biggest compliment you can give someone is to tell them to make their own. Just tell the next French person you meet "Va te faire foudre"
French oak is the best except it always surrenders
i prefer wet wine than dry.
France baise ouais !
Great videos but it will be better if you can just narrate the whole video so we do t have to read subtitles. You can pay attention to the subject if we are reading subtitles.
You do know you can turn subtitles off on youtube?
@@honchosixtysix2190 you do know it’s edited in the video right?
@@Conway7 Not where I'm at, right....
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French ant no better than American white oak. I make my own whiskey,I've experimented with both French and American as well as many other charred woods. The reason French oak coasts more is because there is faaar less of it to be purchased. Just ask the distillers of Scotland witch oak they prefer!
All the things they say makes the french oak better, are in the UK like limestone and they have finer grain because of colder weather.
Just saying 🤷🏻♂️🤣
And you know that because....?
@@honchosixtysix2190 because the UK has limestone and oaks. 🤦🏻♂️🤣
You should know, even without it actually saying it in this video, that colder weather makes trees grow slower and gives them a tighter grain 🤣🤣
@@jamm8284 you do know there are a different types of oak? Somehow prolly all the buyers of french oak must be mistaken then. Oh wait, brexit benefit of making all oak barrels at home, sorry.
@@honchosixtysix2190 yes. Do you care to tell me the difference between the oak in the video and the oak I am referring to? Baring in mind I didn't specify, nor did they from what I recall.
Have a look, the western France oak is the pendunculate oak which is derived from the english oak and where is Bordeaux and other popular wine making regions? That's right, western France 🤣
Get this, I know it's crazy right but hang in there.
French people like using french wood, English people like using English wood, same goes for every nation in the world, for the vast majority of use 🤦🏻♂️
Is someone sour about losing their 2nd biggest economy and if it doesn't bother you then you wouldn't feel the need to make an idiot of yourself bringing up Brexit when we are talking about wood 🤣🤣🤣
But while we are on the topic. Which region had a recession before the UK had and after the UK left the EU? Oh yes Europe 🤣 and believe it or not, when you join a free market, trade goes up and when you leave trade goes down, but don't tell anyone, it's a secret 🤫 what's Europe's excuse that you couldn't stop your biggest economy from going into recession?
@@jamm8284 You are not referring to any specific oak tree. You are insinuating that somehow your english oak trees are the same. Which somehow they are not, as else they would be sold for the same as the ones the french make. And I have yet to see any offering of english wine barrels for sale this side of the channel.
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@honchosixtysix2190 I was waiting for you to say something about the emojis 🤣
They are used to emote and give greater context to how ridiculous your so called arguments are 🤷🏻♂️
So during a conversation about french and English oaks you have gone on about Japanese wood, Brexit, homelessness, when this account was created and the use of emojis on an online chat 🥴
Any chance you want to talk about french and English oak for once?
Other than you having the attention span and conversational ability of two short planks of oak 🤣🤣
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foutre
Glad I don’t drink vinegar!🏴
"this machine" is a planer...
In French, you usually talk about talk about a "fut de chene" or a "tonneau en chene".. never heard about "foudre" that is the terme used for a lightning. It is hardly used.
The worst is that since the voice off does not prononce it well, it sounds like "foutre" that is a very derogatory way talk about sperm and that could be translated as "sc*m"
Bonjour bonjour, j'me permets de répondre vu que j'suis un des gars qui tambourine à la masse dans la vidéo : les fûts et les barriques c'est en tonnellerie, passée une certaine contenance et en fonction du format c'est bien foudre ou cuve l'appellation. Nous sommes d'ailleurs tous "foudriers" dans l'atelier filmé ici. :)
@@ThatManWithAHammer merci de la précision, beau travail
0:38 Hehehuhaha. That's what anybody would say about a product they are selling. If you ask me, the wood of an olive or fig tree from Turkey is not only better, it's unbelievable.
And I'm not advertising a product I'm selling; I'm just telling the plain truth: Obviously, you can't cut down olive or fig trees. But the wood these trees produce is incomparable.
wine is for the FILTHY RICH, we need more food less wine.
Why make a drink that tastes like a tree? Just have customers pay to lick the tree and avoid cutting down the tree in the process.
American oak is better. WW2 said so.
The French are a bit self-indulging, self-centered; you can find the same tight-grooved American oak or especially English oak in many places. It's just that French sound so 'French'!
"Furthermore, its origin can alter this flavor significantly: for instance, a white oak barrel from a southeastern US state will likely have a smoother and silkier taste than one from France. Make sure the wood type aligns with your intended use and aesthetic preferences."
How's that for a rebuttal!
P.S. It's a damn shame to have to cut down those beautiful hardwood trees to be used to store booze!
Anybody else despise wine?
I was hoping we could get through a forestry video without someone bringing up the dreaded climate change topic . You couldn’t help yourselves, it’s just part of everything now. Last I heard France was reeling from lack of rain but this year there’s still loads of snow in the alps and almost June and the rivers are bursting their banks.
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French wines are the most overrated in the world. I wouldn't paint my house with that shit.
To each his own, nobody is forcing you. Mayhaps the resell value of you house would profit from it? In view of the prices of french wine.... just sayin
So many insecure and ignorant ’muricans commenting on this video. The repetitive jingoistic flaghumping is tiresome.
Keep drinking your piss beer, that what suits most for you. Your palate isn't refined enough to appreciate the best wines in the world.
Keep drinking your clown beer, that what suits most for you. Your palate isn't refined enough to appreciate the best wines in the world.
Keep drinking your clown beer, that what suits most for you. Your palate and wine culture are not good enough to appreciate the best wines in the world.