Stephen A. enjoys Max and Will debating Brady vs. Jordan | First Take
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
- Stephen A. Smith sits and listens as Max Kellerman and Will Cain get heated about evaluating if Tom Brady’s career is as successful as Michael Jordan’s.
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Max in 2021: I told you guys Tom Brady was going to fall off the cliff 😂😂
Exactly, he's playing with house money at this point
Bruh y'all talking like brady was so amazing lol
@@nikolove5796 No you're acting like Goff was so amazing, lol...
@@nikolove5796 at least he didnt stink it up 🤷♂️
@@nikolove5796 He wasn't amazing. He was excellent.
"You've dug your hole so deep that you're throwing dirt on yourself"
Well dang LOL
5:50 😂😂
When you play 7 game series going 6-0 is exponentially easier than going 6-0 in 1 game elimination games... let’s just keep it 💯
ThRiCeTiMeS1917 Tom Brady is 6-3 though
@@connorsmith6517 That's his point. Jordan went 4-2 every series but the first, where he went 4-1. If NBA finals were best-of-1 format like the NFL, Jordan would have nearly the same percentage as Brady.
jyashin Tom is nowhere near Jordan’s level lmao the rings don’t even have to say it.
DRIPYDORYEN23 you right he’s better
Michael Robertson do you seriously think Tom would of lost a single super bowl if they had a best of 7 format?
Michael Jordan, Tom Brady Babe Ruth, Wayne Gretzky are 🐐 but I consider deion Sanders and Bo Jackson the greatest athletes since they played multiple professional sports and were successful at them.
Very well put I agree with you 💯 percent
I'd remove Babe Ruth from that list and then you're golden
Ya I agree wit you..I mean that's being a pure athlete, playing more than one sport
Bo was something else. I wish I could have watched him play live.
I did however get blessed with watching Jordan dominate my Pistons in the late 90's one time but I'll never forget
How funny would it be if Will and Max started throwing hands and Stephen A was just there drinking his coffee LMAO
Max would slide Will lol... he's too familiar with boxing
They hate eachother. Lol
580patriot that literally made no sense whatsoever.😂💯
"I'm aware of your physical presence as well." 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmfao
😂😂😂😂
John Smith ivibibb i
John Smith bi
wait those aren't the same sport.....right???
Greatest of all time for all sports
Messi>>> Jordan Brady
Omar Mz nigga nobody fucking watched Soccer foh
Exactly. It's a stupid argument. Comparing apples to unicorns
Mr. Tattoo ASMR
Did Omar bring the midget man Messi into this convo?
Messi?
Without Xavi, Andres, Dinho, et al., Messi is a nobody! How many WC did Messi win? GTFOH
Max mad because he claimed Brady was falling off the cliff last year .
reggie reg and the year before that
And the year before that
4:04 “Im here too” -Molly. Shut up 🤦♀️
Jose Arroyo IKR
😭😭😭😭
Lmao everyone hates Molly, it's hilarious. U guys think she looks old now that hot? Jalen rose has used her up pretty good lol
Got those sexist pants pulled up extra high today.
What a badass. So funny how women threaten you whiney boys.
Everybody hates MOLLY 😂😂😂 I don't get it the chick barely speaks
“Im aware of your physical presence” will is a savage 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭3:58
POTUS 412 negative wrong word for Will Cain
It just sounded childish, which is also a great way to describe this entire debate.
If by savage you mean triggered emotional drama Queen all up in his personal feelings in a sports debate then yes he’s quite savage here lmao.
It’s harder to win multiple championships in the NFL
Jaccobtw the nfl has higher roster turnover than any other professional sports league. Agree 💯
@@austinwade5961 Idk about the roster turnover. Boxing and MMA probably have much higher turnover than the NFL. But they are individual sports, with "title challenge" bouts instead of playoffs, so the NFL is probably still harder to win a championship.
Any championship where a TEAM is involved is tough to win the fact that SAS and Max ignore this and act like MJ would win all those championships by himself shows how ignorant and hypocritical they are towards Lebron and Brady Lebron carries his team multiple times to the finals with little to no help from the team and doesn't win and his finals record somehow becomes a factor on why he can't be in the GOAT conversation but when Brady has the most rings and has a winning record in the Super Bowl than the narrative is changed and his rings are downgraded because SAS and Max wanna give most of the credit to the team and act like MJ had it rough when he had Pippen Rodman Kerr Harper Paxson and a coach as great as the Zen Master neither Bradys nor MJs rings should be overpraised or downgraded for such hypocritical narratives both played a major role in those championships while having support from the team and neither could go to a draft lottery team and do the same thing because both the SB and NBA Finals require a team
"Tom's the 🐐 but Aaron Rodgers is better" - Clown Kellerman
greatness and technique/ability are two different things.
@@zaincasey6998 i like it
Jay Cutler should be the greatest quarterback of all-time if we go with that. He had it all, what did he do with it?
idk man lately he's actually been saying tom is the better qb
I think (hope) he meant talent wise. Like Jordan is the best but Kobe was probably more talented
He's not the Micheal Jordan of football. He's Tom Brady of football!!.
Max is the Michael Jordan of sports debates
Jordan was still better
@@jomelsimonson5279 brady is more clutch
@@Thechosenskywalker more clutch than JORDAN? HAHAHAAAAA he got deuced on twice in clutch 4th quarter moments by Eli and failed, with time on the clock, to produce his own clutch moments in response.
Sure, Brady is pretty clutch, but his defense and coach are responsible for at least 3 of those rings. Basketball players go on both sides of the ball.
MnCalapati415 bean town off the hook tomorrow!! 🦆 🚣♀️
Will always comes for Max's head lmao
Will Cain is the father of pipsqueak Max Kissaman #bigfax
That's bcuz he wants his spot lol
rightfully so.max is so full of trash,its refreshing to have somebody get in his face
Max be standin up to Will, but not to Stephen A
Max makes educated and analytic argument but Will Cain always cones at Max because Cain doesn’t do his homework to analyze staff but berate Max . Cain is looking for Max’s Spot
Will nailed it 4:44.
Max was trying to hide behind whatever stats he may/may not have said, but Will was responding to Max's overall point.
Tom Brady is the only sports player who belongs in the same sentence as Michael Jordan. Jordan won six NBA titles and was the MVP every single time. Brady won six Super Bowls and led a game-winning drive every single time.
@@climaxtv5488 Brady threw a TD pass to Edelman with 2:02 left to go up 4. There were no points scored after that. That is the definition of a game winning drive.
@@climaxtv5488 what game were you watching, they were down going into 4th quarter. Who else commanded the Pats offense?
Bradman and Tendulkar in cricket
Adhi Singanallur he means real sports
Brady came back from 10 in the 4th quarter
Steven A. Smith is my forever mood
You cant compare Tom to MJ 😂😂 that's just dum in itself 👈 two different sports and 2 different athletes by far👈👀👀👀
@@rinadocrosby4844 tom is a game manager whereas jordan is one of the best athletes of all time. pointless comparison
Jeremy Jones If I had to comment on that comment, it wouldn't be pretty, how lucky you are. It'd be like shooting fish in a barrel with a fucking .50 Cal Browning set on full auto and reload a half a dozen to imes! Smh!
@@jeremyjones290 where do you get your drugs?
That would be awful. I'd prefer him as my mood like a couple hours a week.
Of course max found a way to include Aaron Rodgers in this.
Triggered
Max is a clown who knows shit about sports but is fascinated by eyeball tests and physical "specimens".
Aaron is not on Brady level he proved it
He brought him up because there’s a debate between player ability and skill. In the 2000s manning dominated. No one came close to MJ in talent
@@crowley582 but he always brings him up and always makes excuses for him with the packers woes.
Brady is the GOAT of the NFL, Jordan is GOAT of NBA, leave it at that.
Kizaru Russia most wanted thank you!!! You can’t compare football to basketball, I’m a slot receiver in football and I’m pretty good at the position. But if you throw my in basketball all I can do decently is keep people from dunking, I won’t score any points.
Deontay till this day Wilder and football period
Deontay till this day Wilder can’t people have different opinions there not idiots
@Deontay till this day Wilder wrong brady is the Goat
Stephen A casually take a sip of coffee during the argument😂
5:50 😂😂
Will Cain vs. Max Kellerman UFC 235- book it Dana!
Max will dust him
Make it happen Dana!
Plsss
Max with 2 to the body 1 upstairs, Will goes down, Stephen a laughs uncontrollably from press row Molly says "come on guys"
Cain will get his ass whopped
Stephen A face when max and will were going at it mood
He was thinking "white people...."
@@-Stinky_Pinky 😕😕😮🤐😯🙁
@@-Stinky_Pinky no worse than Sharp 😂🤣
FOR REAL.
Stinky Pinky lmao noooo
Brady not only has accomplished more than any other player alive, he MADE Bill Belichick and created a system unto HIMSELF in New England
Bill Belichick as Cleveland Browns head coach 36-44
Bill Belichick as Pats coach with All Pro Drew Bledsoe 5-13
TOTAL RECORD WITHOUT TOM BRADY- 37-60! That’s a .380% “Winning Percentage”.
He took Brady’s 16- 0 team when Brady went down in 2008 and lost not 1, not 2 but 5 games
16-0 to 11-5 and MISSED PLAYOFFS without Tom Brady. He’s 37-60 LIFETIME without Tom Brady.
WITH Tom Brady, Bill Belichick is has gone to 9 Super Bowls winning 6. That’s 9 Super Bowls and 6 Super Bowl wins WITH Tom Brady and a 37-60, 1 play off win WITHOUT TOM BRADY.
This goes to show that there is not only no other QB in NFL history but NO OTHER PLAYER in NFL history
more dominant and so far ahead of their peers in terms of talent and skill than Tom Brady. He MAKES franchises, HE IS THE SYSTEM….HE IS THE REASON the Patriots win. All coaches that leave Brady FAIL. McDaniels, Weis, Crennel, Mangini etc. Look it up. And Belichick has never succeeded with another QB.
Belichick could only stand on the sidelines while Brady masterfully came back from 10 point deficit to beat the Legion of Boom in the 4th quarter. Or when Brady brought them back single handily from 25 points down against Atlanta after Belichicks D got thrashed. Or how Brady threw for 505 yards against the Eagles after Belichicks D got thrashed again for 41 points. Or How Brady brought them back against the Chiefs…TWICE…. as Belichicks D gave up a combined 70+ points in those two games.
Put Brady on ANY OTHER NFL team and the results will be same. Give him Aaron Rodgers team and Brady has 5 rings by now! Belichick? He CANNOT WIN WITHOUT BRADY. Look at the numbers. Period.
Aaron Rodgers is the only good part in the packers lmao
Mark McClure did you copy and paste this
If Aaron Rodgers was on the patriotes he would have done the same thing bro
Max: ahhhh another day another day to hate on Brady
Will Cain: Im about to End this man whole career
Will fighting for that first take spot 😂😂😂
JRSluga - Honestly would be way better than Max
@@MINK2393 max isn't as biased. will trolls too much
MINK nah need to replace Molly
@@raiders10003 will only trolls about the cowboys and even then he is as objective as a cowboy fan can be
@@MINK2393 not at all. I like Max way more
SAS looked like he was amused watching two kids argue over nothing.
Dominic Campbell nigga that's what the title of video say
Cause they are, this is stupid 2 different sports 2 different types of dominance, like 🤷🏼♂️
Nigga!!!shut the fuck up!!if they were talkin about ur favorite players u be just like that too with ur homies u bitch nigga
Thank you Will for exposing Max even more and putting his hating ass in place.
Jordan is GOAT, nobody cares about american football. Jordan is GOAT in the world of sports, not in one country
@@satsuma1754 Okay Jordan is the goat of basketball and arguably all of Ameican sports. But worldwide is has to be a soccer/futbol player like Pele or Ronaldo (Brazil)
@@tobyshimabukuro4414 not really. Jordan is the GOAT for me
@@tobyshimabukuro4414 hell no..Pele or Ronaldo (B) are not even close to Messi and CR7.
CR7 has to be the greatest sports player of all time.
Greatest scorer on UCL
Greatest assister on UCL
Greatest Free kick taker on UCL
Greatest Hat'trick scorer on UCL
Won the treble with Man UTD
Won the LaLiga 2x and the UCL trophy 4x with Real Madrid.
Won the seria A with Juventus
Has 2 international trophies with Portugal which is more impresive than winning the world cup 10x if you're Pele and you're playing for Brazil
Won the Ballon D'or 5x.
Clearly the G.O.A.T.
BT Drunk Artist Ronaldo Da Lima would be the Goat if not for injury but what ifs don’t work in the goat conversation. CR7 is definitely my goat though.
3:53 Stephen A had me dying 😂🤣
Brady and Jordan are both iconic GOATS whose legacies will forever be untouched by any other player in their game
You mean he saw the garbage coming out of Will mouth.
Debatable for Brady
@KingOne easily? lmao gtfo with that dumb shit
@@jomelsimonson5279 nope, if anything its debatable for jordan because lebron has been closest to taking the throne, but nobody can touch Brady. 6 rings in the NFl? 9 SB appearances? Thats UNHEARD OF. NFL is the hardest league to win a championship in (most # of teams/no 7 game series) and Brady has 2 more rings than the former goat Joe Montana.... its actually untouchable like a dynasty like the pats and a pleyr like Brady will never be seen again its just facts. Some of the best NFl players of all time never even made it to one super bowl.
@@dogman6687 Everyone said this same thing about Montana though.
Max is tired of being bullied lmao
Man you dont think max can box? Dude be covering that sport since he was 20 lol
Thorfinn
What max hit girls? You’re a liar.
Im ILLmatic I think I did hear somewhere he hit his wife once
😩😩😭😭
it says "FAIR TO COMPARE TOM BRADY & MICHAEL JORDAN?" yet that's exactly what they are doing.
The fact that it's a debate means the answer is yes.
No exactly, they are having the argument, that means that its possible, not that is "fair"
It’s not fair to compare them
Will destroyed Max.. ESPN needs to replace Max with Will ASAP
MJ was the best for 10 years
Brady has been the BEST for more than 10 years for his career
Marc Miranda. Brady has been the best for about 5 of the last 18 years and in a couple of those years he didn’t even get the Super Bowl.
50 Pence
Jordan played for the bulls for 14 years. He missed the finals for 8 of those years. Add the years he played in Washington, he missed ten years. That argument doesn’t reflect well on Jordan, either. Jordan is the all-time difference maker in BASKETBALL. Brady is the all-time difference maker in FOOTBALL. The sports panel mental masturbation comparing the two is asinine.
@@petofi97 I didn't comment on Jordan. I commented on Marc Miranda saying Brady has been the best for over 10 years.
Brady has been a part of something that has been the best for over ten years, but the New England defence has been the star in most of them.
I'd say Brady single handedly did the business (at most) 5 times.
I do agree it is wrong to compare him with Jordan, because the nature of the sports means Jordan had to be great more often. I'm just glad I've lived to see the likes of them, Bird, Ali and Gretzky.
Superb.
@@50pence59 He said Jordan was the best for over 10 years, no Brady.
Max was the type of kid to start fights at school, then run to hide behind the teacher
Hell naw, he held his own here.. never shied away or withdrew anything he said..
Will looks like the type who would push up on your girl and hopes it gets back to you so he can play the victim when you beat his ass.
We've got some white on white action going on here 😂
Funny man funny.
Regular CZcamsr 🤦🏿♂️💀⚰️😂😂😂
Lmao
Ha!!!!!! Right!!!!! Nerds!!!!!!!
And Max cant rap for shit!!! Ha!!!!!
Molly opened her mouth and my ear drums started bleeding
Right super annoying
lmao everytime
Lol agreed
Brady: Not the greatest athlete, not fast, can't jump...Just the winningest, most accomplished NFL player ever.
Wrong
rtmhrj he’s faster now then ever.
Someone should use Stephen A Smith in the thumbnail as a meme. 😂
He was enjoyin' this shit... His face said it all.
This guy is Harlarious
They should be debating that trash halftime show. Even SpongeBob couldn't save that mess.
Smite Stuff Bro everybody would’ve. A live performance and a little skit of sweet victory would’ve been 10 times better. Sicko Mode doesn’t sound good live and he only performed that one song. Trash game, trash show, and if you actually give a shit about them then trash commercials too.
maroon 5 wasn’t bad
@@jki808 the Supra is back tho 😂😂😂
Spidey7747 travis has no musical talent hes a auto tune rapper who's related to 50 cent
Im still not over the halftime disappoint
I'm not a Patriots fan but I give the man Respect, I can say in both there sports in the NBA Jordan is the GOAT,and in the NFL Brady is the GOAT!
Brady has been consistently great for such a long time and had multiple years where he was arguably the best QB in the league. In 2005, Brady led the league in yards and had a pretty damn good season. In 2006, Brady managed to lead the Patriots to the AFC championship with Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney as his top two receivers. In 2007 with Moss and Welker he shattered nearly every record in the book at the time. In 2010, he became the 1st ever unanimous MVP throwing 36 touchdowns to just 4 interceptions. In 2011, he led the Patriots to the SB and finished with 5200 yards, 39 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. In 2012, another incredible season finishing with 4800 yards, 34 touchdowns and just 8 interceptions. In 2015, another incredible season with 4700 yards, 36 touchdowns and 7 interceptions. In 2016 wins another SB and likely would've won MVP if he played the full season finishing with 28 touchdowns to just 2 interceptions. In 2017 he wins MVP again. Incredible. The only player I have in front of Brady during the regular season overall is Peyton, but Brady is just so much better then Peyton in the playoffs.
Max Kellerman is the kind of guy who pokes the bear, then cries when his hand gets bitten off.
They need to keep will cain on first take 😂😂😂😂
They need to take Kellerman off First Take. The douchiest douche of all douches.
I swear he be turning up
Will Cain is almost worst than skip.. Max is pretty mid though
Greatest of All Time:
Basketball: Jordan
Football: Brady
Golf: Nicklaus
Hockey: Gretzky
Futbol: Pelé
Boxing: Muhammed Ali
Baseball: Babe Ruth
MMA: Anderson Silva
Rugby: Richie McCaw
Cricket: Sir Donald Bradman
Olympian: Jesse Owens
Body Builder: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Overall: My Pancake Recipe
Baseball: Ruth
Boxing: Mayweather
MMA: Jon Jones
Golf its woods, football is messi, maybe ronaldo not pele. Mma is gsp, or fedor. Boxing is ali not i run away till you old mayweather.
@@HoodieShady defences where very static and shit back then, you then take into account that, that brazil team was a very strong team anyways. He also played more than 2 decades, which shows that football in general wasn't very phisically demanding back then. You can stick to pele if you want, but I'd take Maradona or even messi over him
@@HoodieShady calm down. There is a reason records get broken. I never insulted you. If you ask any pro league football coach today they will say pele was. Yes messi never won the world cup, but other titles pele could never accomplished like messi has. I am sooo sorry to hurt your brasilian feelings bro. But hey, we won 7 - 1 , im german ;)
Phil Jackson rings without Jordan: 5
Coach B playoff wins without Brady: 1
🤔
Phil had kobe and shaq give bill peyton and see what happened
5 rings with the player who modelled his whole Basketball life after Michael Jordan.
@@seankelly4594 the Patriots would have been better if Bill had Peyton.
THANOS BRADY HAS GOT HIS 6th INFINITY RING
Nah it was bill who got him that 6th
Edwin Ramirez did bill have a game winning drive
@@ericvinnetona2234 No, but Bill put together and strategized a defense that held a top 3 offense to 3 pts.
@@edwinramirez9511 fuck outta here McVeigh won that one for the patriots
Alan Martinez bill belchick got him that
Whenever skip retires from FS1.. Will Cain will debate Unc Shae SHARPE .. Bet on it.
He'd blow his fucking top tryna argue with ol Shay Sharpe
Will would destroy him
I hope skip don’t ever retire guys a clown but is real entertaining
Sean Rankin u stoopid
So according to Max,
1. The chargers would have beaten the Patriots if they had blitzed Tom Brady.
2. The chiefs actually won the AFC championship game on an interception that Tom Brady didn't really throw.
3. And Jordan is really a 10 time MVP.
Max is the king of Hypotheticals and its incredible how he just slides them into his arguments like facts 😂
Alvin Smith I legit rewatched all the first takes after each patriots playoff game and he came up with a different excuse discrediting Brady every game 😂 you honestly just can’t debate with him, he doesn’t get it
Why are people comparing jordan and Brady now two different sports basketball and football is not the same sport this shouldn't even be no debate at all 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Andre if you understood sports, you wouldn’t ask such a dumb question
so true, it's just clickbait bullshit at this point, comparing 2 great examples of their sports for what? Max needs a fucking lobotomy.
You can't compare basketball goats with football goats. Basketball can be dominated by a individual football your dependent on teammates
Shawn exactly lol
That’s why max is right a single basketball player just has a such higher impact on the game then even a QB in the nfl.
Oh you can, when your reaching for anything to make you look like less of a fucking idiot. Max
Shawn then why the fuck Westbrook want considered a goat when he averaged a triple double 2 times
Mattman Dabmaster that’s very true
Please stop bringing up Aaron Rodgers 🙄
Right ! For fucks sake
rodgers is clearly better than brady though, but brady has the better career because he plays for the best defensive coach of all time (as well as the best OL coach and top 5 OC)
raiders10003 Just Stop. Please. It’s over. Rogers has had chances to just appear in more so just stop. This debate has gone on long enough. No one denies his greatness just like no one should deny Brady’s. Belicheck, Flores, and the defense were the majority of the reason for the super bowl win but not the playoff run. Don’t let this super bowl take away what Brady has done for the previous playoff runs and Super Bowls. God this debate is so over and when people bring it up it’s just stupid now. Aaron Rodgers last chance is next year since the head coach finally left so it’s on him 100% next year. No more excuses.
@@brotatochip3730 this comment is slightly confusing, but I think I get what you're saying lol. Aaron strikes me as the guy who wants the paycheck wont sacrifice his stats so he throws routes that have the lowest chance to be picked instead of the plays he needs at times to win. He also seems like the guy who the glory is his or nobody's. There is alot more than simply being able to play the QB position if this was the NBA I'd agree because one man can carry a team, but it's not and since his single superbowl he just has been putting up hollow numbers. He has a new coach and a few years left let's see what he does. My money is on nothing
raiders10003 rogers is has athlete talent but not as durable because its thanks to him quarterbacks have the protection they do today. But what makes brady great is he can pick apart any defense. He recognizes and knows where he wants to go with the ball and usually has a quick release. Not to mention how every ex teammate has said how much of a leader he is unlike rogers. No drama in N.E. the only thing that was close was when that one dude got benched before the last superbowl they lost.
5:10 will looks like his head is about to explode 😂 😂
this is funny to me... max says "this year brady was playing for belichick"... really max??? Whats funny to me about this is as SOON and the pats traded cooks away (bradys only real weapon at wr) and used that pick on a runningback (which was a laughable pick... burkehead could do exactly what michel can do except he can catch out of the backfield), I knew exactly what bill was doing. He not only traded cooks... but let amendola, and lewis go... basically taking 40% of the offensive yardage awayf rom bradys mvp season prior and said "well... since you are more valuable than me, figure it out!" It was CLEAR to me that belichcik knew brady would struggle to throw touchdowns and he would force the run game, especially inside the five yard line to pump up sony michels numbers and keep toms under control. And not to mention, brady had SIX passes this season dropped that turned into ints... max is a turd... considering what brady had to deal with weapon wise this year, at his age, he had a magical season. Fuck outta here with bill
Michel is a better RB than burkhead and less injury prone....bill drafted a Olineman also but Isaiah Wynn got hurt
@@fatpatlives1998 better than burkehead?? At what? No... and less injury prone? Michel looks like hes 50! Dude has fluid drained from his "bone on bone" knee once a year and hes 23.
@@nickcolagiovanni6572 lol at Football if u a Patriots fan ya know this
The debate is so dumb. They play two completely different sports.
You didn't watch it? The ESPN is for entertainment FYI
You’re correct.
Comparing Brady to MJ is moronic. That’s why it’s on espn.
Ikr
the debate is pointless because brady was only the best QB for a year
yeah but they still are the highest standard of their respective sports which makes them comparable
Jordan is still the best of all time. I'll admit Brady winning six rings is more impressive because in the NFL you only get one shot.
Nba is a fucking series where 2 bad calls can change the outcome of the finals so Winning a damn 7 game series is much much much more physically and mentally taxing than Superbowl lets be honest.
Nefarious Anxiolytic 黒雨 in the nfl if you have a bad game or even a bad drive at the end that’s it you lost. In the nba you get 3 more chances
It’s impressive but then it’s kind of also not as impressive. No disrespect to the Brady but in football you can’t win a super bowl without a solid defense. Football is the one sport where you really need the players around you to win a championship.
@Daniel Hill well all the greats take advantage of some sort of opportunity. That's what makes the greats great. Essentially that's what seperates champions from non champions
@Daniel Hill Brady took advantage of his defense's work vs the Falcons play calling. The Falcons played like the game was over, Brady kept coming. Vs the Seahawks Brady did his part to get his team the lead and it was the defense who had to make sure they sealed it which they almost blew it with yet another unbelievable catch like the Giants.
Pretty much impossible to decide this. It's like deciding who is the worlds smartest person.
Cant really compare but interesting to see different perspectives. Love the passion!
Rodgers is NOT better than Brady... stop this crap please. They are both great QB but Tom Brady is on another stratosphere!!!
The one and only thing Rodgers has on Brady is mobility and that's it. Brady is better in every other way and it's really not even close.
Brian Bishop lol stop it Belichick had a losing record as a head coach before Brady. Brady was leading come backs in big games for Michigan, so stop that nonsense. Belichick almost got fired then the Bledsoe injured happened and the legend of the goat started
No he isn't, been blessed to have the greatest coach of all time and some good surrounding teammates, much much closer to golden state then being the bulls from the 90's, he wins because of team ball and every once in awhile has something in crunch time, Rodgers IS a better qb, peyton manning is/was too. He was the oppisite of brady, best player on his teasm at all times everyone else was shit. they never had any defense, this is all a joke. grow up and do some actual history on sports.
Steven Salyer you’re an idiot
Rodgers doesn't have a Donte Hightower on his defence to make his team blossom. The Patriots have a higher salary cap with more money to give to greater players. Being a small town team, the Packers don't have that. Aaron Rodgers is better than Tom Brady.
What about lebron ? Jordan and Brady may have 6 rings but lebron has 6 finals losses....
Oh snap
I love you
Lebron is the Gloat greatest loser of all time
@@t3jf i love you bra
Lol this comment made my day
Playoffs and Finals in the nba is also a series where in the nfl it’s a one game to advance
Steven A. 😂😂😂😂🤣you just had to grab that cup 👍👍
God... Molly started talking and it was like nails on a chalkboard
Someone tell that girl to stfu
She needs to have less an opinion
And be more sexy. That's not sexist.
That's being respectful to her vessel and strengths.
None of you have had sex and it shows
Wrd
@@kaitlynf7490 not liking a news anchor means people don't get laid? Bruh
Max was my guy but the hate for Tom Brady has me looking at him so different now
Can they get rid of Molly already? Her voice being wildly annoying is one thing, but when has she ever contributed something worth while on this show? Like, bring in Sage Steele or literally anyone else.
@@graceisjustthat I think he meant more of her pitch of voice ins't the best for television. It kind of hurts your ears when she comes out of nowhere.
She looks good, that’s it. Her intellect or ability to express coherent thought is equivalent to that of a gnat.
SAS in the mirror: You’re right, ya Ik I’m right & here’s why
Will Cain is that annoying classmate that reminds the teacher to collect the homework
The realest and funniest comment of the last 2yrs😂😂😂🤣💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥🔥😩
Lmao😂Everybody acts like they forgot it
Funniest man alive right here no cap
Noa delarosa 😭😭😭😭
Lol
WILL CAIN VS MAX KELLERMAN WRESTLEMANIA BOOK IT
Id watch it.
I'll seriously pay to see that
"My gawd! Max Kellerman, hes standing at the top of the biggest ladder ive ever seen will cain laying motionless on tge announce table... BY GAWD! Both men are broken in half! The table exploded!"
"Wait a second that Steven A music whats he doing here!?"
"I dont know but skip bayless just jumped out of the crowd this is pandemonium!!!"
Stephen A Smith reactions are just priceless🙏😭😂🤣🤪”mad respect for my man”🤙
Kellerman has fallen off a cliff. Tom Brady is the GOAT.
Max got will heated!! Wow Stephen A facial expressions are priceless!!!!
beetlejuice is the best!
Why they comparing a QB in nfl to an NBA player and the GOAT at that. Ridiculous debate.
Peepsi DT it always is 🙄
Cus those 2 are so good at their respective sport that they cant compare Brady to anybody in Football and they cant compare Jordan to anybody in the NBA. At least thats the way I see it.
@Nathan Gold How is Brady a role player?? Bill B had a losing record without Brady. Yall like sayin Brady is a system QB.... Brady IS the fucking system, how time after time he comes in clutch and pulls something out of his ass. Talking bout carrying a team get outta here with that shit.
Nathan Gold
We shouldn’t even ever compare Lebron to Mj. That crap needs to stop!
35 REASONS LEBRON JAMES ISNT CLOSE TO MJ! MJ IS THE GOAT!
Jordan vs LeBron Updated after Lebrons 16th season. Michael Jordan has:
1. •3 more rings
2. •3 more final mvps
3. •1 more DPOY
4. •1 more season MVP
5. •9 more scoring titles
6. •3 more steals leader
7. •3 more all defensive team selections
8. •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer.
9. •800 more steals
10. •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
11. •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice
12. •6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
13. •Lebron had much more offensive help, example: Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring * In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
14. •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons Lebron after his 14th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago”
15. •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
16. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
17. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
18. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
19. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
20. •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
21. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%
22. •LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games. Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games. Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018
23. •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..
24. •Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy. Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.
25. •MIchael Jordan: NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg
26. •Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY
27. •Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series: 41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals
28. •Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85)
29. •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88)
30. •Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES.
31. •Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)
32. •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season * He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
33. •One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82
3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87) * Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this.
34. •MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice!
35. •In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 scoring titles
-Won Defensive Player of the Year
-9 times all defensive team
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs All 11 seasons.
Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career…
And I’m not even gonna acknowledge the foolery you just said about Brady!
cuz its bla bla bla VS MJ since 98
Wow will Cain absolutely toasted Max Kellerman
I love when they start arguing LMFAOOOOOO
Sense Max’s Cliff comment Tom Brady has had two Super Bowl’s and one MVP...
Lmao
God pigeon when max said the cliff he wasn’t referring to the same season in which he said it.
JD 1 Evidently he wast referring to the next few seasons either, despite him saying it was coming so soon. His cliff argument is stupid lol.
*since
Max probably waiting till Brady hits 45, because the cliff is still coming. He consistently brings up 1 to 2 INTs in the superbowl against all time great defenses and says look any avg QB could have played better. Uh no they couldnt havent.
Ik this is late but now I realize how different ESPN is without Stuart scott
Yeah how sad
Jalen Frank who dat lol
@@pshyeah1128 BOI
OrlandoMagicFan4Life sounds kinda familiar
@@pshyeah1128 Well if you don't watch sports then it's fine lol.
Steven A on his ends like imma sip on this tea 😂😂
Making it to the big game is too underrated. Everyone says 6-0 for MJ like he only played 6 seasons... turns out there were 9 seasons MJ was so bad he couldn’t even make a championship to tally a number in the W/L Column.
A year where you lose in the championship is significantly better than a year where you don’t even earn your way into the game.
lol the years he didn't win championships were his best years from a individual standpoint he has 10 scoring titles...he dominated in the league with and without championships
Brady is watching this thinking: max just watch me get that other ring next year
Nah, you defensive coach left
Why are people so obsessed over this topic??? They're two completely different sports. They're both GOATS leave it at that.
Because in the end, there can only be one.
because if we figure this out we can figure out the cure to most diseases!
@@joeyzapata6786 Both Brady and Jordan careers are great but Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are the GOATs no question they both each have more trophies than Brady and Jordan.
Victor Memeh they don’t know about football man
Comparing GOATS across sports is a fools errand. These guys talk about this as if MJ and Brady are the two greatest athletes ever, which is a crazy claim.
It's not about Brady or Michael.
The real goats are the coaches Phil and Bill.
I love the guy in the middle. What’s his TWITTER? Lol my guy!
4:54 SAS just casually sipping tea lmao
Green tea
Numba12Cede 😂😂
The argument that 6-0 is better than 6-3 is the *DUMBEST* shit i ever heard. In order to get 3 Championships losses, YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP! Y’all are basically saying it is better to lose before the Championship than it is to lose in the Championship.
No one made that argument on this video
str8duval I guess you didn’t read the comments l. Also Will Cain argued my same point
How about this one Jordan had to win 24 games to get 6 and Brady and his defense and kicker got 6 out of 9 ..just can't compare
ROB
Nah. It’s better to be 6-0 than being 6-3. You’re praising second place ribbons and only looking for a flaw in MJ’s 6-0 record when there’s none. If you lose early and also lose in the SB/finals, guess what? It’s still a loss. You don’t get a ring for appearing in a championship game only to lose.
By your logic if a guy went 6-5 in a title gm, that would be better bc he went more times than a guy going 8-0....
eazyduzit5150 Okay so according to your logic: It’s better to not make the playoffs than it is to make the championship and lose? I can’t take none of y’all serious bruh. That shit is stupid. Y’all are fucking dumbasses honestly.
Tom Brady is the Micheal Jordan of Pelé if Babe Ruth played cricket on Sundays. Coming from a Penguins fan!
Lmaooo. "You dont keep your self straight on this"
When max said I’m here no need to yell I was laughing then I heard molly said I’m here too and that shit just got me mad
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 damn bro
Lol then Will saying "I am aware of your physical presence as well" was going to top it off and then Molly goes and makes a huge buzzkill.
Stephen A right on the money with this one.
@@clearchance where your bro Cleveland?
Max is right to
I like when the debates go this way
Never compare ..two legends..each..is great..love the sports..history has been made..excited to watch..
Aaron Rodgers isn't even better than Joe Montana let alone Tom Brady. Sit down.
Rodgers definitely better, he just ain't got a decent squad or coach
@James Jenkis So? Is there a point to be made?
@@jeromelawler902 Aaron Rodgers has a good offensive team last year he had three above average receivers and two mediocre TE.
Rodgers is the better athlete but Brady is the better teammate and player.
@James Jenkis And Michael Jordan idolized David Thompson. Obviously that's a bad comparison but you get my point.
*The extra ring on his hand must be weighing him down falling off that cliff, right Max?*
lmao
Stephens facial expressions are hilarious 🤣
50 TD, 8 INT, 16-0 regular season. Hello, Max, you are just sad
conworldus 19 game winning streak
Will was about to jump across the table and strangle Max if Molly didn’t interject. OMG LOL.
Lmaooo
Yes he should have max is out of his mind
LMAO Stephen A. was just sitting in his corner waiting for these clowns to finish their idiotic conversation.
LaBron James Those idiotic conversations make him millions lmao.
Stephen A the biggest clown.
Steven A has had countless idiotic conversations of his own. Like every time he talks to Max.
Can this be a regular thing in First Take?
Okay Serious Question 🍔
How long can they keep doing this , is it really feasible that they can be there again next season... answer that without bias .... if you can
Jordan is the GOAT NBA player, TB is the GOAT NFL player. No point in debating they are one of a kind, stop comparing them
Yeah just like Ronaldo is a GOAT REAL football player.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld nope messi is
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld Nobody gives a shit about that homosexual woman.
True..why can't we leave it at that.
Hard to really compare across different sports. Roger Federer or Lionel Messi..
Brady and Jordan are similar in championship games. Bradys 4 best super bowl wins were against the Panthers, Eagles, Seahawks, and the Falcons. He has 11 TD, 4 Int, 346 ypg, 69.9 cmp% and a 100.6 passer rating in those games. Jordan 4 best series were against the Lakers, Blazers, Suns, and the 97 Jazz. He averaged 35.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 7.3 apg on 50% FG, 39% 3PT, and 79% FT. Bradys 2 worst super bowl wins were both against the Rams. 1 TD, 1 Int, 203 ypg, 59% cmp, and a 77.8 passer rating.
Jordans 2 worst series wins were against the sonics, and the 98 Jazz. 30.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3.2 apg on 42% FG, 31% 3PT, and 82% FT. They may not look like bad stats but for jordan they were compared to his best finals. So how are they similar. In Bradys first super bowl against the Rams he only threw 145 yards and a TD but led a game winning drive to set up Adam Vinateri's field goal to win, his other super bowl against the rams Had 0 TD and 1 Int but led a game winning drive by setting up a rush TD. Brady went 4/4 67 yards 118 passer rating in the 4th quarter vs the Rams. Jordan in game 6 win vs the Sonics shot 5/19. Jordan in game 6 win against the 98 Jazz was 15/35 FG, 1 Reb, 1 Ast but made the game winning shot to win. The point is that they both were great in 4 champiomship wins and not that great in 2 championship wins but in there 2 worst championship games they both had clucth moments in those games which helped their team win.
Aser Galindo
Max is delusional if he actually thinks it's not close. You could literally cut Brady's career in half (first 10 years vs last 10 years) and he'd still be in the conversation for greatest football player of all time.
This was my favorite episode. The entire podcast is hilarious. Max is funny af.