I used to HATE Will Cain he normally comes off as arrogant.....now listening to he more and more I see myself hearing him more instead of listening to him
@@AndrewVera23 I just love how ppl assume things, if you disagree with one thing you must be something else....there's not one single word mentions that I like him just because I said used to hate him then doesn't mean I like him now, come on dude grow up....I don't care if he's an conservative or otherwise I'm commenting on this specific story on this specific show
It goes both ways lol. Each side supports freedom of speech or mandates when it caters to them. Reps were throwing shade at the riots because there were looters (which is obviously the bad bunch), but then they go and attack US Congress in a riot at the same time (which I believe is also the bad bunch). Freedom of Speech/Security doesn’t matter as much as what they’re arguing about.
I was wondering why Will Cain left Disney/ESPN, now i know why, eventually he was boxed out as he is not getting along with their narrative, at least politically!
I think it funny how Stephen a is calling them out for mandating this against constitutional rights when just the other day he said the nba should mandate the vaccine such a hypocrite 😂😂
He said that because it was the USA soccer federation as in they are representing the nation at large, whereas the nba is just a private company in America. Nothing hypothetical about his stance.
Not at all. Will's point was "I'm white, I'm privileged, do what I say black boy" All these racists mad about a knee but cheered when Trump said "I don't consider soldiers who get captured as heroes". But we already knew ya'll are racist hypocrites 🤷🏾♂️
If you don’t agree with the state of your country and want to kneel during the national anthem…. Don’t represent it, and tell them you don’t want to partake in international competition.
Max is too woke and shows his typical liberal hypocrisy. If there was a ceremony for MLK and it included some prayer or a ceremony where it asked for the attendees to rise...and a group of white kids felt at that time and at that place they wanted to exercise their right to kneel...we all would say those kids were just being narcisstic, self indulgent, self-important douche bags.
Rights vs privilege: Rights: ability to have free speech, access to vote, access to food,water, shelter, etc. Privilege: being invited to team USA soccer team and representing them Privileges sometimes involve sacrificing certain rights which is why it is not mandatory to pursue a privilege. For example, certain jobs require dress codes which most people will abide by because at the end of the day they receive a check. Today people feel entitled to their rights in every situation as they want to the best of both worlds, consequence-free
Indeed....and I like the example you use cause I work in a dollar store and some employees my store manager hired seem to forget the dress code. I've seen some female workers working in sweats, hair bonnet still on like they just woke up but didn't shower and just came straight to work, and wear those crocs slippers (I think they're called that).....lol smh it's unbelievable
Don't teams also have all kind of cultural rules or even companies ? Now if you work at Amazon and they say you have to wear their shirt on work but you don't want it because you don't agree with the salaries you might get fired.
At the end of the day, we as a country need to stop marketing ourselves as the epitome of moral compass, stop avoiding the racially infused indescretions that it commits on a daily basis and deal with them on a local and national basis simultaneously instead of just on a national level.
Stephen A didn’t know it was a private corporation until they said it and then had to jump in and be like “oh I didn’t mean it literally I meant if they represent the Country”, or whatever, to pretend like he knew the whole time😅
I actually agree with the 🤡 but it should be an unwritten rule to all Americans representing our nation, who choose to kneel for our national anthem and choose to represent our nation by there own free will and think it’s time to exercise their freedom of speech against our nation pro never be allowed to represent our nation on any platform of any kind ever again and certainly shouldn’t be compensated for it
If u wanna kneel and really care about you're so called cause then do it on you're OWN TIME ! don't do it during you're work and yes you're work is the sport u play a game you play and get paid hundreds of millions of dollars to play that game so be respectful of the great country that gives u that gift a gift many died for ! Very simple protest on you're own time us fans wanna watch our GAME WE PAY U TO PLAY ! STAND UP FOR THOSE WHO DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY AND THOSE THAT CAN'T STAND BECAUSE THEY LOST THERE LEGS FIGHTING TO KEEP US FREE ! I DON'T THINK AMERICA IS PERFECT BUT IT'S OUR LAND OUR COUNTRY NO MATTER YOU'RE COLOR AND FOR THAT ALONE WE MUST UNITE AROUND IT ! HECK IT'S ALL WE HAVE LEFT ! ONE NATION UNDER GOD !
I was in the active duty U.S Army for 3 yrs. At 5pm (1700hrs) on military bases, the national anthem is played and all military personnel who are driving or pedestrians on base are required get out of their vehicles or stop walking or running, and stand at attention to a alute in the direction of wherever the main flag on the base is, until the anthem is no longer playing. Most soldiers and officers intentionally rushed off of base or stay indoors to avoid having to salute the flag 😂
It all comes down to you have the right but should you use it to be disrespectful. Ex) you have the right of speech to cuss out your grandma if you disagree..but should you? People need to have more respect
Funny as a black male in the military between 10 through 13 (medical discharge) I stood at attention me n my brother even at a high-school football In civilian clothes SAS don't speak for me sorry
Is this the same Stephen A Smith who’s preaching amendment rights but constantly shitted on Kyrie for MONTHS over a mandate he had every right to refuse if he didn’t feel comfortable taking for ANY reasons whatsoever…. WOW 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@donniemeekins7446 lol , you really do not have free speech in the workplace to Wills point dummy . Your boy Stephen a smith bringing up free speech was a dumb argument on his part lol
Goddamn is Will Cain off ESPN yet? I get it that it’s cool to have someone wit different principles on the show and I really like that, but it seems like all these right-wing, Fox News nuts are all the same uncharismatic and boring ass guy that even LOOKS the same. Say whatchu want about Stephen A. being a “biased leftist” or whatever nonsense but at least him and Max are entertaining goddamn.
Worshiping a Flag 🇺🇸 before a Sporting Event is the most Unpatriotic thing a Citizen can do! How about actually doing something practical to help your fellow man and make the community you live in better?
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I used to HATE Will Cain he normally comes off as arrogant.....now listening to he more and more I see myself hearing him more instead of listening to him
I used to hate Molly and nothing changed I still hate her voice
@@damonscarface2063 I don't like Molly at all, never did
@@linchayes9007 little Ms SJW
You’re literally just a partisan and when you found out he’s a conservative then you like him
@@AndrewVera23 I just love how ppl assume things, if you disagree with one thing you must be something else....there's not one single word mentions that I like him just because I said used to hate him then doesn't mean I like him now, come on dude grow up....I don't care if he's an conservative or otherwise I'm commenting on this specific story on this specific show
So this is when Stephen A actually defended freedom of speech??? Oh boy how the tables have turned
It goes both ways lol. Each side supports freedom of speech or mandates when it caters to them. Reps were throwing shade at the riots because there were looters (which is obviously the bad bunch), but then they go and attack US Congress in a riot at the same time (which I believe is also the bad bunch). Freedom of Speech/Security doesn’t matter as much as what they’re arguing about.
Why won't he speak out about nba in China??
Liberals are super hypocritical
I was wondering why Will Cain left Disney/ESPN, now i know why, eventually he was boxed out as he is not getting along with their narrative, at least politically!
Ironically he’s now on Fox News
@@garbagecandan5613 that’s probably the only company who had the balls to hire him
You love that racist, don't you?
@@Cts_99 na, I think its because fox is racist like him & you 🤷🏾♂️
But in all seriousness this was a good conversation. There's nothing wrong with having a good conversation.
💯
Now Will is out of ESPN, you have to be a part of the get along gang!
And Will Cain is at Fox where he belonged all along.
@@Welcome0002 su Republikkkan
DITTO Crunch.
I think it funny how Stephen a is calling them out for mandating this against constitutional rights when just the other day he said the nba should mandate the vaccine such a hypocrite 😂😂
Facts
Yeah because kneeling has a lot to do with people dying...you sound dumbb as hell
He said that because it was the USA soccer federation as in they are representing the nation at large, whereas the nba is just a private company in America. Nothing hypothetical about his stance.
One is a silly little song the other saves millions of lives.
He is really a hypocrite when it comes to Black people
No one actually "won" this argument, all parties raised strong points. Anyone who says otherwise clearly has a biased perspective.
Probably the most civil debate I heard from will and Stephen a both brought up good points
Will point was insensitive stop it 💯💯💯💯
Not at all. Will's point was "I'm white, I'm privileged, do what I say black boy"
All these racists mad about a knee but cheered when Trump said "I don't consider soldiers who get captured as heroes". But we already knew ya'll are racist hypocrites 🤷🏾♂️
Facts
@@mauriuntayhenderson8269let me guess, you’re a triggered little snowflake that thinks every white person is racist …
If you don’t agree with the state of your country and want to kneel during the national anthem…. Don’t represent it, and tell them you don’t want to partake in international competition.
Facts
@Jeff s you don’t even know proper grammar, and great for you I don’t care nor did I ask.
Max is always fair with this topic
Max is too woke and shows his typical liberal hypocrisy. If there was a ceremony for MLK and it included some prayer or a ceremony where it asked for the attendees to rise...and a group of white kids felt at that time and at that place they wanted to exercise their right to kneel...we all would say those kids were just being narcisstic, self indulgent, self-important douche bags.
Rights vs privilege:
Rights: ability to have free speech, access to vote, access to food,water, shelter, etc.
Privilege: being invited to team USA soccer team and representing them
Privileges sometimes involve sacrificing certain rights which is why it is not mandatory to pursue a privilege. For example, certain jobs require dress codes which most people will abide by because at the end of the day they receive a check.
Today people feel entitled to their rights in every situation as they want to the best of both worlds, consequence-free
Such an underrated comment
Indeed....and I like the example you use cause I work in a dollar store and some employees my store manager hired seem to forget the dress code. I've seen some female workers working in sweats, hair bonnet still on like they just woke up but didn't shower and just came straight to work, and wear those crocs slippers (I think they're called that).....lol smh it's unbelievable
This was when first take was actually good. Idk wat the hell it is now
I thought it was still good......what happened?
Will absolutely crushed this segment.
I support their rights not to stand, same with not mandating the vaccine
Will was too real.
SAS - “you got me” - never heard that.
Wonder how Will felt about Vaccine Mandate. Probably not the same way lol
Will Cain absolutely destroyed this debate 🔥🔥🔥
Don't teams also have all kind of cultural rules or even companies ? Now if you work at Amazon and they say you have to wear their shirt on work but you don't want it because you don't agree with the salaries you might get fired.
smith got schooled by an attorney.
Nope. Will's racism was shown & that was one of the many reasons he lost
@@sinsincere5748 you’re funny. God bless you
Will Cain is an attorney?
@@kathrynhall1136yes. He is.
Didn’t know that, thanks for sharing that information
Molly voice smh damn they need to replace her
Steven A would approve of vaccine’s mandates but not standing for the flag. Ok Steven A
My grandfather's stood for the flag when it did not stand for them.
So they want to represent our country but they don't want to respect the country.
Amazing work guys
At the end of the day, we as a country need to stop marketing ourselves as the epitome of moral compass, stop avoiding the racially infused indescretions that it commits on a daily basis and deal with them on a local and national basis simultaneously instead of just on a national level.
2022. Funny how SAS is now the only one on this show. Molly don't count she just there to interrupt.
He got him with that espn shit
Stephen A says you should be able to kneel but there could be consequences but then says the soccer federation can't give them consequences. Confused
Stephen A didn’t know it was a private corporation until they said it and then had to jump in and be like “oh I didn’t mean it literally I meant if they represent the Country”, or whatever, to pretend like he knew the whole time😅
Will Cain didn’t get renewed because if this.. facts over feelings
What facts he just stated his opinion
Surprised ESPN brought someone in to debate both sides of something political. Seriously tho why the fuck is ESPN talking about it
will Cain was a beast
Will Cain with the ether after the 5 minute mark
The one time will won a argument
Taking the word kneeling out and put in the word vaccine in this video do Stephen A and max and even will Cain feel the same way?
Covid kills....big difference
Completely agree. Both sides use controversial ideologies to apply when it only suits them, not looking at it as it’s own independent value
All of them are right in some way, just depends on your upbringing.
It’s funny how Stephen A says you “Can’t mandate in the United states” funny living in 2022
How so?
@@Peteroc860 vaccination stuff
There is no right or wrong in this debate only opinions
People saying SAS doesn’t admit when he is wrong
That's all you took from this discussion. Wow you need a lot of growth.
@@tonyu2298 you too fam 💯
Will Cain sounds so common sense compared to these two
Will 🐐
I actually agree with the 🤡 but it should be an unwritten rule to all Americans representing our nation, who choose to kneel for our national anthem and choose to represent our nation by there own free will and think it’s time to exercise their freedom of speech against our nation pro never be allowed to represent our nation on any platform of any kind ever again and certainly shouldn’t be compensated for it
If u wanna kneel and really care about you're so called cause then do it on you're OWN TIME ! don't do it during you're work and yes you're work is the sport u play a game you play and get paid hundreds of millions of dollars to play that game so be respectful of the great country that gives u that gift a gift many died for ! Very simple protest on you're own time us fans wanna watch our GAME WE PAY U TO PLAY ! STAND UP FOR THOSE WHO DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY AND THOSE THAT CAN'T STAND BECAUSE THEY LOST THERE LEGS FIGHTING TO KEEP US FREE ! I DON'T THINK AMERICA IS PERFECT BUT IT'S OUR LAND OUR COUNTRY NO MATTER YOU'RE COLOR AND FOR THAT ALONE WE MUST UNITE AROUND IT ! HECK IT'S ALL WE HAVE LEFT ! ONE NATION UNDER GOD !
I was in the active duty U.S Army for 3 yrs.
At 5pm (1700hrs) on military bases, the national anthem is played and all military personnel who are driving or pedestrians on base are required get out of their vehicles or stop walking or running, and stand at attention to a alute in the direction of wherever the main flag on the base is, until the anthem is no longer playing.
Most soldiers and officers intentionally rushed off of base or stay indoors to avoid having to salute the flag 😂
Will Cain is a debate genius
Until he had one with Bomani Jones, his argument was crushed!!!!
It all comes down to you have the right but should you use it to be disrespectful. Ex) you have the right of speech to cuss out your grandma if you disagree..but should you? People need to have more respect
Funny as a black male in the military between 10 through 13 (medical discharge) I stood at attention me n my brother even at a high-school football In civilian clothes SAS don't speak for me sorry
Will cain for bodied
Will Cain torched them 😂
Is this the same Stephen A Smith who’s preaching amendment rights but constantly shitted on Kyrie for MONTHS over a mandate he had every right to refuse if he didn’t feel comfortable taking for ANY reasons whatsoever…. WOW 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Hahaha Stephen a got schooled . Always quick to say somebody is wrong yet is almost always the dumbest person in the set
You are wrong will is stupid
@@donniemeekins7446 both are stupid, Stephen a is a little slower
@@donniemeekins7446 na your just a democrat liberal
@@donniemeekins7446 lol , you really do not have free speech in the workplace to Wills point dummy . Your boy Stephen a smith bringing up free speech was a dumb argument on his part lol
Will schooled these far left zombie mob dam!!
How so??
What point specifically did he"school" them on?
I bet will Cain won’t talk to Shannon sharp like that. Stephen a smith from NY up north Shannon from GA down south
Max Kellerman and Stephen A Smith are 100% accurate
Will was too good for these clowns.
Will Cain is the biggest clown 🤡 on the planet
Max taking the W
Nope.
Totally disagree.
Facts
L
Will Cain schooled them..
All in the eye of the beholder
Yup
Will Cain is such a clown 🤡 because he doesn't believe in free speech.
@@davidmejia8500
What are yall smoking ?
@@RJG7203 you must be black
Will educates once again.
Gahdamn will just flamed them on the first amendment vs company controlled point
Goddamn is Will Cain off ESPN yet? I get it that it’s cool to have someone wit different principles on the show and I really like that, but it seems like all these right-wing, Fox News nuts are all the same uncharismatic and boring ass guy that even LOOKS the same. Say whatchu want about Stephen A. being a “biased leftist” or whatever nonsense but at least him and Max are entertaining goddamn.
You’re a Buffon. My guess is you work at McDonalds or public education.
I am so glad fox gave him a big FAT contract, max is a such a weak little man
90% of the people don't agree with you
Worshiping a Flag 🇺🇸 before a Sporting Event is the most Unpatriotic thing a Citizen can do!
How about actually doing something practical to help your fellow man and make the community you live in better?
Respect your country, period.
well it aint ours and if you say it is then it should be equal to “all” americans . .. fuck america
Cain is wrong he clearly dosent understand his POV is equal to there POV
Will Cain looked like a complete fool
You must be black😂😂😂😂
@@legion24100 wrong LMAO
Will Cain owned this debate idk what you were watching.
@@Neofilmcritic then your a white liberal 😂😂😂
@@legion24100 lmaoo exactly 😭
Will Cain: Stand up and respect the [White] Nation
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The nation *
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@@mobetta2092
Nobody believes you
@@mobetta2092
No matter how many times you copy and paste the same bull shit, nobody worth a damn believes you
Stephen a just has no issue changing his opinions 😂😂😂