It might look like the pirates are elite crack shots shooting individual targets discriminately but what they can do the Red Coats can also do. They're operating under different doctrines though. Flint knows full line volley fire isn't going to do anything to the morale and discipline of British troops. His blokes are in cover so instead he's electing to have them simply kill as many as they can.
And why aren’t they bombarding the pirate’s with their Ships instead of using mortars on the land not to mention the insane accuracy the pirate’s have.
@@VenomTY2006 Yeah, who wins a bunch of untrained pirates or a military full of professionally trained soldiers. But not even they can beat plot armor.
@@Man-dd7fd One day i hope there is a good historical show without BS plot amour characters, like imagine star wars but if luke always won each battle he faced, not accurate
@@VenomTY2006 Same man, look at what it turned stormtroopers into. It's truly BS. I'm gonna say this right now, if they weren't ordered to miss and plot armor was non -existent on the death star then Luke's entire crew would be dead.
@@Man-dd7fd so true bro, but when the clones have to do the shooting, all of them have the accuracy of Arthur Morgan’s dead eye from red dead redemption 2. At least make the droids and stormtroopers actual treats, same for the British Empire, or any empire who is being faced against plot armor.
Having a man who served with the British on the side of the pirates he should have known not too fight on the beach and instead in the jungle like they do later on with greater success. He should have known he would not gain anything by fighting on the beach as it would be impossible to repel the landing between the support fire from the ships of the line and the numerical superiority of the British. So fighting on the beach was pointless lest you can hold. Now you can argue he thinned the numbers but he also lost men so that negates any losses he dealt. The British could afford to lose more men then the pirates could.
The point of that in the series is to make the British think the pirates are stupid, and make them think they had won so they could be lured into an ambush. Basically the idea is that they fight on the beach, then withdraw and make it look like a rout, then let the British go and attack the camp, and then when the British least expect it they surprise the British soldiers from behind and turn it into a chaotic melee which favored the pirates.
If you plant a bayonet on a musket, you can fight better in close combat, but reloading is more difficult. Since the infantry serves only as cover for the mortars, it must hold the line and fire salvo by salvo. Melee would be suicide under its own mortar fire. But as their opponent withdraws, the firefight is over very quickly.
They were also trained to fight in a fixed setting with rules for conduct and engagement. Pirates as with any force that can not play with the given rules find weaknesses in those rules to exploit their superior enemy. That's the truth of any form of guerilla tactic and asymmetrical warfare. Now the pirates might win on their own home turf but they will never be able to conquer England, but that's not their goal. Their goal isn't to win a proper battle, but to survive. It's the same with the vietcong, ewoks, partisans, or Taliban.
The assault is honestly daft. With defensive positions that visible, they'd have been bombarded from the sea. The line infantry would have just charged them as they'd barely get off a second volley before they closed the distance. Pointless to stand there volley firing.
Spain gave the British navy a couple of months to take The island and eliminate all pirates threaths ,or they would burn the colony to the ground. having almost all the pirate force on the beach, a foward attack and chase was the quickest way to victory and stop a very long guerilla from happening.On the other side, pirates were all on that beach on a purpose, they wanted the british troops to attack and pursue them in their "retreat" in the jungles of an island they do not know. This is how i see this battle
But a miss means an opportunity. Remember they got but one shot. Takes a while to reload after that. But in the mean time, the hacking sound of the halberd has no delay.
That is true, but even with a musket you would still get a few shots during the time it takes for a person with any melee weapon to get to you and that is cut down if you have someone loading whilst you shoot. I doubt the reload time is fully accurate though in this clip.
You gotta remember that the holder of the colors and the sergeant at arms were very protected as a whole, the man with the halberd was the last line of defense for the man holding the flag, often he was one of the more senior veterans of the unit entrusted with protecting the colors. You feel bad for him, but really, you should feel bad for any enemy within ten feet of him.
Saving Private Ryan wannabes lol. Just fire from the ship (if they even came from one) directly instead of bringing infantry to the beach. It would’ve made things faster and easier (and with much less casualties for the Royals)
Or just land the infantry somewhere else and flank them. The reason why the Normandy Landing was done charging the German defenses is because the German capability to form the Atlantic wall (so the entire coast was defended) whereas here, only a small portion is.
Stupid battle the british should have sat in their ships and shot cannons at the fortifications, captain flint literally had a forest behind him but no he selected a open ground for some reason, the british outnumber him and are well equiped he should made his fortifications in the jungle because 18th century warfare was fought by formations and formations are hard to manovuer in tropical forests like that
For all we know it was improvised grapeshot. A lot of people like to remind others that cannons can be loaded with any kinds of projectiles... Silverware, broken glass, coins, rocks, musket balls, pottery etc like they're really versatile and so easy to turn into giant makeshift shotguns. It does come with a big caveat though, whilst all of this works in theory, it's definitely not good for cannon and has a good chance of buggering it up and making it unusable after the first shot. But that said.... If you've only got the window or opportunity for one discharge and don't need to worry about doing maintenance and cleaning on it afterwards. These look like they were entirely designed to be single use surprises so they very well could have been real grapeshot or improvised, doesn't seem to be outside the realms of possibility to be honest. If anything I'm surprised they weren't able to get hold of more, even if they were just solid shot.
Spain gave the British navy a couple of months to take The island and eliminate all pirates threaths ,or they would burn the colony to the ground. having almost all the pirate force on the beach, a foward attack and chase was the quickest way to victory and stop a very long guerilla from happening.On the other side, pirates were all on that beach on a purpose, they wanted the british troops to attack and pursue them in there "retreat" in the jungles of an island they do not know.
@Abhijit Pathak wake up. He invaded a sleepy Northern English coal trading port. His troops took to rowing boat s, landed in port, went straight to the pub and got drunk. They sank no ships. Killed no townsfolk and went home with sore heads from good local ale. The myth was written when USA was a fledgling state needing success and the UK a super power. Much has changed except the nonsense of a raid that turned into a farce. And of course, most of his sailors were English seamen who crossed sides because the colonial revolutionaries paid more coin
I love this period in history and I’m happy when anyone makes film or tv depicting it. But for fucksake can we get some major details right?! BAYONETS. No British infantry force would engage in combat without bayonets fixed. Jesus for all the work they did to get uniforms and weapons right they can’t even remember to have the guys fix bayonets. The fucking reenactors should have said something
@@robinjmir4694 Rank and file soldiers weren't that great at close combat after melee combat lessened in wars. Native americans for example were a lot better at hand to hand than us army soldiers. And pirates had to be tough to survive sea voyages.
It's all circumstantial really. Bayonetted muskets properly formed up would have absolutely shredded the pirates in melee and they knew that but you'll notice they weren't properly formed up. It's the same principle 'barbarians' went by when fighting the Romans, all ambushes were initially contingent on a single overriding maxim "Do not let them get into formation". Literally every facet of the battleplan needs to be geared around this principle, if they get into formation, you all fucking die, but if you can surprise them in loose order many options become possible.
Garbage. Completely false and made up. This is the stupidest tactic for the English. They certainly would've done better. Horrible wannabe cool movie scene.
pretty sure this is black flag and not pirates of the caribbean still a great battle tho
Black Sails but close enough
I just wish it was free on amazon
Lol
This channel is famous for mis-writing the topic of the films.
It is black sails. Someone didn't know their movies
Black Sails not Pirates of the Caribbean.
yeah jack sparrow wouldnt last if his enemies wore shark teeth
The accuracy of the musket makes me laugh
It might look like the pirates are elite crack shots shooting individual targets discriminately but what they can do the Red Coats can also do. They're operating under different doctrines though. Flint knows full line volley fire isn't going to do anything to the morale and discipline of British troops. His blokes are in cover so instead he's electing to have them simply kill as many as they can.
That sounds a bit wrong.
And why aren’t they bombarding the pirate’s with their Ships instead of using mortars on the land not to mention the insane accuracy the pirate’s have.
The pirates are just filled with plot armor, in reality the british navy would have no problem crushing pirates
@@VenomTY2006 Yeah, who wins a bunch of untrained pirates or a military full of professionally trained soldiers. But not even they can beat plot armor.
@@Man-dd7fd One day i hope there is a good historical show without BS plot amour characters, like imagine star wars but if luke always won each battle he faced, not accurate
@@VenomTY2006 Same man, look at what it turned stormtroopers into. It's truly BS. I'm gonna say this right now, if they weren't ordered to miss and plot armor was non -existent on the death star then Luke's entire crew would be dead.
@@Man-dd7fd so true bro, but when the clones have to do the shooting, all of them have the accuracy of Arthur Morgan’s dead eye from red dead redemption 2. At least make the droids and stormtroopers actual treats, same for the British Empire, or any empire who is being faced against plot armor.
Having a man who served with the British on the side of the pirates he should have known not too fight on the beach and instead in the jungle like they do later on with greater success. He should have known he would not gain anything by fighting on the beach as it would be impossible to repel the landing between the support fire from the ships of the line and the numerical superiority of the British. So fighting on the beach was pointless lest you can hold. Now you can argue he thinned the numbers but he also lost men so that negates any losses he dealt. The British could afford to lose more men then the pirates could.
The point of that in the series is to make the British think the pirates are stupid, and make them think they had won so they could be lured into an ambush. Basically the idea is that they fight on the beach, then withdraw and make it look like a rout, then let the British go and attack the camp, and then when the British least expect it they surprise the British soldiers from behind and turn it into a chaotic melee which favored the pirates.
@@gamlaman Could have lured them into the jungle without engaging. Plus a privateer commands this force he knows what the pirates can do.
@@gamlaman true. The beach fight was a decoy and Flint did not mind sacrificing a few of is men
I Respect for the Army Redcoats.
This is one epic pirate battle! 🇬🇧 vs. 🏴☠️
Don't you just love the idea of British infantry of this period forgetting to fix bayonets and breaking their files...
If you plant a bayonet on a musket, you can fight better in close combat, but reloading is more difficult. Since the infantry serves only as cover for the mortars, it must hold the line and fire salvo by salvo. Melee would be suicide under its own mortar fire. But as their opponent withdraws, the firefight is over very quickly.
@Shadow Responder yeah i meant volley... my english vocabulary isnt that good, sorry.
They were also trained to fight in a fixed setting with rules for conduct and engagement. Pirates as with any force that can not play with the given rules find weaknesses in those rules to exploit their superior enemy. That's the truth of any form of guerilla tactic and asymmetrical warfare. Now the pirates might win on their own home turf but they will never be able to conquer England, but that's not their goal. Their goal isn't to win a proper battle, but to survive. It's the same with the vietcong, ewoks, partisans, or Taliban.
@@JB17521or They still did fix bayonets. That's just how the line infantry fought.
@@presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889 spund bajonetts? Lmao
This is unrealism done right
The assault is honestly daft. With defensive positions that visible, they'd have been bombarded from the sea. The line infantry would have just charged them as they'd barely get off a second volley before they closed the distance. Pointless to stand there volley firing.
British Grenadiers.
"Black Sails" TV Show, not even related to POTC, but atleast about it being in the Caribbean atleast.
This is d-day part 1
Fishing with Cody close but no cigar that would be the invasion in Robin Hood
No
the muskets...wish I could fire one🥺🔥
I love British army. C:
I came from Brandon F.
Right behind you.
this is awesome
Aby Redcoats im this video are nOObs?
Spain gave the British navy a couple of months to take The island and eliminate all pirates threaths ,or they would burn the colony to the ground. having almost all the pirate force on the beach, a foward attack and chase was the quickest way to victory and stop a very long guerilla from happening.On the other side, pirates were all on that beach on a purpose, they wanted the british troops to attack and pursue them in their "retreat" in the jungles of an island they do not know. This is how i see this battle
Anyone else disappointed with black sails ending 🙋♂️
This is not pirates of the Caribbean this is black sails
Haven't seen the show so maybe I'm missing something,
But why would you land and form line when you could just hammer them from sea?
Bc the directors apparently love Saving private Ryan
To take the beach
I would hate to be that guy who is stuck with the halberd when every other man has a gun including the enemy.
But a miss means an opportunity. Remember they got but one shot. Takes a while to reload after that. But in the mean time, the hacking sound of the halberd has no delay.
That is true, but even with a musket you would still get a few shots during the time it takes for a person with any melee weapon to get to you and that is cut down if you have someone loading whilst you shoot. I doubt the reload time is fully accurate though in this clip.
@@vargyr1040 Lol bow and arrow is the fastest
You gotta remember that the holder of the colors and the sergeant at arms were very protected as a whole, the man with the halberd was the last line of defense for the man holding the flag, often he was one of the more senior veterans of the unit entrusted with protecting the colors. You feel bad for him, but really, you should feel bad for any enemy within ten feet of him.
Guilty Piracy.
British Empire Lore:
That was fun to watch but this whole battle makes nosense
Saving Private Ryan wannabes lol. Just fire from the ship (if they even came from one) directly instead of bringing infantry to the beach. It would’ve made things faster and easier (and with much less casualties for the Royals)
Saving Pirate Ryan
Or just land the infantry somewhere else and flank them. The reason why the Normandy Landing was done charging the German defenses is because the German capability to form the Atlantic wall (so the entire coast was defended) whereas here, only a small portion is.
You did not watch the show.
Pls wait! I'm reloading
Black Sails, no question.
BLACK FLAG of Assassin's pirates!😂💀❤
The British would’ve won in real life!
That's Black Sails, not potc. still, nice vid
18th century grenades, amphibious defenses, and bullshit. This is what I am here for!
Saving Pirate Ryan
Piracy is what I call ending up in deep trouble with the Police.
Modern Royal Marine/US Marine amphibious landings before they were cool
Stupid battle the british should have sat in their ships and shot cannons at the fortifications, captain flint literally had a forest behind him but no he selected a open ground for some reason, the british outnumber him and are well equiped he should made his fortifications in the jungle because 18th century warfare was fought by formations and formations are hard to manovuer in tropical forests like that
Imagine if pirates have grapeshot cannons
For all we know it was improvised grapeshot. A lot of people like to remind others that cannons can be loaded with any kinds of projectiles... Silverware, broken glass, coins, rocks, musket balls, pottery etc like they're really versatile and so easy to turn into giant makeshift shotguns. It does come with a big caveat though, whilst all of this works in theory, it's definitely not good for cannon and has a good chance of buggering it up and making it unusable after the first shot. But that said.... If you've only got the window or opportunity for one discharge and don't need to worry about doing maintenance and cleaning on it afterwards. These look like they were entirely designed to be single use surprises so they very well could have been real grapeshot or improvised, doesn't seem to be outside the realms of possibility to be honest. If anything I'm surprised they weren't able to get hold of more, even if they were just solid shot.
they are danish soldiers in the carribean because the unfirom was used by danish soldier in the 1720s
This is not how things are done at all
The battle like D day
battle of Havanna 17th century. 100,00 redcoats vs 30,00 pirates & regulars. By dawn nearly 25,00 will lay dead, wounded or captured.
Season 3 Finale of Black Sails a STARZ TV series!
Hey, they deserved it while somehow not seeing an entire army with knives next to them
🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
I need to know the context of the campaign before I'm truly allowed to judge these tactics, so I'll hold off for now
Spain gave the British navy a couple of months to take The island and eliminate all pirates threaths ,or they would burn the colony to the ground. having almost all the pirate force on the beach, a foward attack and chase was the quickest way to victory and stop a very long guerilla from happening.On the other side, pirates were all on that beach on a purpose, they wanted the british troops to attack and pursue them in there "retreat" in the jungles of an island they do not know.
June 6, 1744.
You mean Black Sails
what is the name of this film?
arrrrr free pirates we be matey,,,,,
When Disney took it too far ( I’m just joking this isn’t pirates of the Caribbean but still this does look like it )
Piratas contra piratas jajaaj
These series had the worst military advisors ever
God save the Redcoats Army.
British empire to be correct
Thank you.
Timor leste
How many of them died
Bollocks, the British Army would’ve crushed them
@Abhijit Pathak wake up. He invaded a sleepy Northern English coal trading port. His troops took to rowing boat s, landed in port, went straight to the pub and got drunk. They sank no ships. Killed no townsfolk and went home with sore heads from good local ale. The myth was written when USA was a fledgling state needing success and the UK a super power. Much has changed except the nonsense of a raid that turned into a farce. And of course, most of his sailors were English seamen who crossed sides because the colonial revolutionaries paid more coin
RavnDream Thats nonesense, the British Empire was the biggest Empire next to Rome, it was the Empire on which the sun never say
@Abhijit Pathak it's not good if you learnt the wrong things, in fact thinking you know something but being wrong is worse than not knowing anything.
@Abhijit Pathak Yes, but in the late 18th century sailing across the Ocean was very easy.
@Abhijit Pathak easy and normal
black sails
Musket D-day
pirate vs pirate
What's the title of this movie
Unrealistic.
The show is called "Black Sails" its a prequel to Treasure Island. Its a very good show. I see so many people watching this scene without context....
Как называется фильм ?
Black Sails, Это сериал на 4 сезона.
God Save The King and Army.
I love this period in history and I’m happy when anyone makes film or tv depicting it. But for fucksake can we get some major details right?!
BAYONETS. No British infantry force would engage in combat without bayonets fixed. Jesus for all the work they did to get uniforms and weapons right they can’t even remember to have the guys fix bayonets. The fucking reenactors should have said something
This show was fuckin wild
My Beloved British Army.
God Bless the British Army.
Imagine there is a squad teleported to the past and they bring 1 mg42 with extra barrel and Ammo
Бредни. Режиссёр в школе слабаком был и в тайне мечтал быть хулиганом...)
d day hahaha
I Respect for the killed Redcoats.
So sadly died in battle.
😔⛪⚰️✝️➕⛑️🚑⚕️🇬🇧🏴🏴👑⚔️
🙏💐✝️➕
Black Flag all the way.
That’s black sails
Sad thing is that this war tactics were true.
КАК НАЗЫВАЕТСЯ ФИЛЬМ????
сериал Чёрные паруса( Black sails). 3 сезон, 10 серия.
His Majesty got fudded up
Black sail not POC
Black sails
This is black sails not pirates of the Caribbean
This is black sails
Is not pirate of the Caribbean.... Is black sails
This is NOT Pirates of the Caribbean
Why the brits have no bayonets? lmao
Bayonet it’s French invention in 16 century I think this scene is in same time 🤷🏼♂️
Wait this is Black Flag not PoC
That isn't pirate of the caribian
Caribbean
This shows how good pirates were in close combat. The soldiers pretty much had no chance.
It's a damn show, not real history.
@@xWHITExEAGLEx Rahrr rah rahrr rahrr, Rah Rah raddadaa!
@@robinjmir4694 Rank and file soldiers weren't that great at close combat after melee combat lessened in wars. Native americans for example were a lot better at hand to hand than us army soldiers. And pirates had to be tough to survive sea voyages.
Bruh it’s inaccurate and the British would’ve won in reality
It's all circumstantial really. Bayonetted muskets properly formed up would have absolutely shredded the pirates in melee and they knew that but you'll notice they weren't properly formed up. It's the same principle 'barbarians' went by when fighting the Romans, all ambushes were initially contingent on a single overriding maxim "Do not let them get into formation". Literally every facet of the battleplan needs to be geared around this principle, if they get into formation, you all fucking die, but if you can surprise them in loose order many options become possible.
Garbage. Completely false and made up. This is the stupidest tactic for the English. They certainly would've done better. Horrible wannabe cool movie scene.
Not a movie, now go bitch and moan somewhere else
Maroons have routed hundreds of European troops on several occasions. try again.
black sails
Saving Pirate Ryan
Heh lol